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sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
December 06 2010 21:07 GMT
#3861
On December 06 2010 16:21 decafchicken wrote:
Ruined my body for the last three days T_T Oh well got all the partying out of my system before two weeks of school hell. Just did some light bench and stuff (including curls for the first time in months...shh don't tell anyone) cause i wanna dominate my C&J/snatches tomorrow. Amongst all this school and bullshit at least i have lifting to escape for a couple hours here and there. Hoping to clean 125-130kg, snatch my bodyweight, and start working on my jerk.

@Sjarl, whats wrong with your knees? Can you do sprints and such on them? And yeah other than some HIIT, i'd say just keep putting on more muscle to raise your bmr and maybe clear out some carbs/unnecessary calories. It's nice to eat whatever you want but if you wanna lose weight then somethings gotta give.


Gotta love sem preexam partying...


I had some really bad jumper's knee and got an operation in february and they are still not 100% fixed up yet. But they are coming along.

Sprints would be optimal if I could do them, will try them out in the near future. Sucide runs are fun.

Today's workout:

Push Press: 50kg x 8, 57,5kg x 6 and 65kg x 8
Power Cleans: around 30 reps in total with 40kg, 50kg and 60kg. Just practicing the technique.
Dragonflags
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
December 06 2010 21:26 GMT
#3862
On December 07 2010 06:00 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2010 05:25 decafchicken wrote:
to reiterate. WHOLE MILKKKKKKK

also wierd thing, when i'm doing snatches/overhead squats the left side of my torso kinda underneath my left lat gets sore? kinda feels like some muscle or bone is not where it should be? idk i've never had an injury there before or anything.


Quite a few muscles that run under there... depending on position.

upperback you got all of the spinal erectors, teres major around there too, serratus posterior superior

low back you got External obliques, internal obliq, tranversus abdominus, quadratus lumborum serratus posterior inferior

Unless that side of your back is hypertrophying more than the right I wouldnt worry too much. Probably just a weakness being corrected


Yeah its a pretty new movement so it might just be a weakness. Ill let it go for a bit, it doesnt hinder me too much just annnoying.
I think its where the bottom of my scapula and rib cage touch when i have the bar in the overhead position while squatting. weird.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9377 Posts
December 06 2010 21:34 GMT
#3863
On December 07 2010 06:26 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2010 06:00 eshlow wrote:
On December 07 2010 05:25 decafchicken wrote:
to reiterate. WHOLE MILKKKKKKK

also wierd thing, when i'm doing snatches/overhead squats the left side of my torso kinda underneath my left lat gets sore? kinda feels like some muscle or bone is not where it should be? idk i've never had an injury there before or anything.


Quite a few muscles that run under there... depending on position.

upperback you got all of the spinal erectors, teres major around there too, serratus posterior superior

low back you got External obliques, internal obliq, tranversus abdominus, quadratus lumborum serratus posterior inferior

Unless that side of your back is hypertrophying more than the right I wouldnt worry too much. Probably just a weakness being corrected


Yeah its a pretty new movement so it might just be a weakness. Ill let it go for a bit, it doesnt hinder me too much just annnoying.
I think its where the bottom of my scapula and rib cage touch when i have the bar in the overhead position while squatting. weird.


rofl, decaf's body's a bitch.

roflrorlforlfolf funkie got no pain bro! :D

Today some Squats, OHP and PC, I can't wait to Power Clean, I just fucking love doing it.
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rEiGN~
Profile Joined September 2010
369 Posts
December 06 2010 21:52 GMT
#3864
What's the deal with full fat milk, why do I want it? Also, at what point am I supposed to be "allowed" to cut fat, I can't be eating like hell all the time if I wish to look good at some point.
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-06 23:35:45
December 06 2010 22:04 GMT
#3865
--- Nuked ---
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
December 06 2010 22:49 GMT
#3866
Stop being a little bitch Decaf, funkie got no pain bro.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 06 2010 23:29 GMT
#3867
On December 07 2010 07:04 krndandaman wrote:
i've just been doing sets of dumbbell curls, dumbbell shoulder presses, dumbbell flys, etc. (ALOT OF DUMBBELL SHIT CUZ THATS ALL WE GOT) as well as every single form of pushup i can think of.

along with the cardio exercise i get from either running or playing a shitload of basketball, this has been my 'getting into fitness' routine.
also avoided unhealthy things for the last 2 months. no junk food, soda, etc.

in 3weeks im already seeing results as I lost 3 pounds, actually have some form of muscle now, and my belly fat is slowly going away. quite happy

it's not even close to the best routine... but whatever. working with what i have here in the dorm lol

feel free to suggest creative ideas for my routine to work out a bigger variety of body parts


Lots of bodyweight training stuff here : http://www.dragondoor.com/articler/mode2/Workouts/

eshlow and travis could probably elaborate!
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undyinglight
Profile Joined December 2008
United States611 Posts
December 06 2010 23:39 GMT
#3868
I motion that when 2011 rolls around that the 2011 Teamlquid Health and Fitness Initiative thread should be stickied, at least till 2012 rolls around.
Rise Up!
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
December 07 2010 00:09 GMT
#3869
On December 07 2010 08:39 undyinglight wrote:
I motion that when 2011 rolls around that the 2011 Teamlquid Health and Fitness Initiative thread should be stickied, at least till 2012 rolls around.


Agreed!
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
December 07 2010 00:23 GMT
#3870
On December 07 2010 07:04 krndandaman wrote:
i've just been doing sets of dumbbell curls, dumbbell shoulder presses, dumbbell flys, etc. (ALOT OF DUMBBELL SHIT CUZ THATS ALL WE GOT) as well as every single form of pushup i can think of.

along with the cardio exercise i get from either running or playing a shitload of basketball, this has been my 'getting into fitness' routine.
also avoided unhealthy things for the last 2 months. no junk food, soda, etc.

in 3weeks im already seeing results as I lost 3 pounds, actually have some form of muscle now, and my belly fat is slowly going away. quite happy

it's not even close to the best routine... but whatever. working with what i have here in the dorm lol

feel free to suggest creative ideas for my routine to work out a bigger variety of body parts

edit: for reference, im 5'8 3/4, 155 pounds now
goal is for my genes to work and get me to 5'9 soon and work down to 150 pounds if possible.


DB bench and overhead press are good. Work in some things like dumbell snatches and lunges/squats. Does your school not have a real gym?

On December 07 2010 06:52 rEiGN~ wrote:
What's the deal with full fat milk, why do I want it? Also, at what point am I supposed to be "allowed" to cut fat, I can't be eating like hell all the time if I wish to look good at some point.


You can cut whenever you want. Just eat less. Less whole milk > more skim milk. What does your diet/workout look like?


On December 07 2010 07:49 Energies wrote:
Stop being a little bitch Decaf, funkie got no pain bro.



actually it felt better today. Snatched up to 85kg, did C&J from ~50kg to 90kg and then cleaned up to 110. I really need to a) quit jumping like a fucking idiot on my cleans and snatches and b) get weightlifting shoes asap. Also got like 3 hrs of sleep so my workout was pretty shitty. oh well.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
December 07 2010 00:38 GMT
#3871
On December 07 2010 07:04 krndandaman wrote:
i've just been doing sets of dumbbell curls, dumbbell shoulder presses, dumbbell flys, etc. (ALOT OF DUMBBELL SHIT CUZ THATS ALL WE GOT) as well as every single form of pushup i can think of.

along with the cardio exercise i get from either running or playing a shitload of basketball, this has been my 'getting into fitness' routine.
also avoided unhealthy things for the last 2 months. no junk food, soda, etc.

in 3weeks im already seeing results as I lost 3 pounds, actually have some form of muscle now, and my belly fat is slowly going away. quite happy

it's not even close to the best routine... but whatever. working with what i have here in the dorm lol

feel free to suggest creative ideas for my routine to work out a bigger variety of body parts

edit: for reference, im 5'8 3/4, 155 pounds now
goal is for my genes to work and get me to 5'9 soon and work down to 150 pounds if possible.


http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2010/03/the-fundamentals-of-bodyweight-strength-training

-----------------------------

I'll probably rewrite the existing main topic to make it a bit less cluttered for the 2011 version unless someone else wants to make it instead of me?
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 07 2010 00:46 GMT
#3872
wow, this thread is almost done

THE MEMORIES, THE FUCKING MEMOOOORIES

seriously this thread is pretty much all i do on teamliquid anymore, since the advent of sc2
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
December 07 2010 00:58 GMT
#3873
I dont think i posted this before but a very video of warming up for comp. This can be applied to training too. No bullshit, each lift is performed the same until the end.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xa7fqz_cao-lei-warming-up-in-beijing-1-2_sport
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xf05mb_cao-lei-warming-up-in-beijing-2-2_sport

Also very good articles on learning in this website. http://www.sportivnypress.com/
His analysis on the last worlds is amazing.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Koagel
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria167 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-07 02:21:38
December 07 2010 02:20 GMT
#3874
On December 07 2010 06:26 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2010 06:00 eshlow wrote:
On December 07 2010 05:25 decafchicken wrote:
to reiterate. WHOLE MILKKKKKKK

also wierd thing, when i'm doing snatches/overhead squats the left side of my torso kinda underneath my left lat gets sore? kinda feels like some muscle or bone is not where it should be? idk i've never had an injury there before or anything.


Quite a few muscles that run under there... depending on position.

upperback you got all of the spinal erectors, teres major around there too, serratus posterior superior

low back you got External obliques, internal obliq, tranversus abdominus, quadratus lumborum serratus posterior inferior

Unless that side of your back is hypertrophying more than the right I wouldnt worry too much. Probably just a weakness being corrected


Yeah its a pretty new movement so it might just be a weakness. Ill let it go for a bit, it doesnt hinder me too much just annnoying.
I think its where the bottom of my scapula and rib cage touch when i have the bar in the overhead position while squatting. weird.

The deltoideus can't bring the bar overhead alone, the shoulder girdle needs to move if you want to press the bar up that much, hence muscles that pull the scapula forwards are used, i.e. the M. serratus anterior, which is pretty much exactly where you describe the soreness is, at least if I understood your description correctly.

Just came back from my leg workout. Had a nice time, squats were 100x10, 120x10, 140x7 and 160x4. That's so much more than my deadlift it's ridiculous... (deadlift is around 140x3 or so) I really have to concentrate on my lower back and my grip. I even feel like my squats are hindered by my lower back weakness, but I might be imagining that. Oh well, at least I have a goal now.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 07 2010 03:10 GMT
#3875
--- Nuked ---
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
December 07 2010 03:11 GMT
#3876
On December 07 2010 06:52 rEiGN~ wrote:
What's the deal with full fat milk, why do I want it? Also, at what point am I supposed to be "allowed" to cut fat, I can't be eating like hell all the time if I wish to look good at some point.


Depends when/what/why/etc.

Full fat milk good for bulking and healthier... if you're cutting in general just replace some or all with water.

If you wanna get strong/big you need caloric surplus... if cutting you need a deficit.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Zerokaiser
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada885 Posts
December 07 2010 03:16 GMT
#3877
On January 02 2010 06:25 zizou21 wrote:
GOAL: Being able to run 10 miles in one sitting. ALMOST THERE



Sorry, I know this was way back the beginning of the thread...But he is going to have a HELL of a lot of trouble pulling that one off.


Good luck to everybody and their fitness goals! I just recently went from 140lbs to 115lbs to 170lbs due to medication, so I'm hoping to get back down to 140...
Lanaia is love.
Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
December 07 2010 03:41 GMT
#3878
205 squat and 145 bench today.

Wednesday I have overhead press and I had a few questions regarding it.
How should I unrack this thing? Currently I squat under it and lift it out. My second question goes with this, but I also put it on my chest but man does it start to hurt after being there for awhile. Where am I supposed to rest it? Or do I just hold it up?

... and thats my two questions. Thanks in advance.
Victory Loves Preparation
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
December 07 2010 03:44 GMT
#3879
On December 07 2010 09:58 AoN.DimSum wrote:
I dont think i posted this before but a very video of warming up for comp. This can be applied to training too. No bullshit, each lift is performed the same until the end.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xa7fqz_cao-lei-warming-up-in-beijing-1-2_sport
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xf05mb_cao-lei-warming-up-in-beijing-2-2_sport

Also very good articles on learning in this website. http://www.sportivnypress.com/
His analysis on the last worlds is amazing.



He also has an article on the warmup protocols of the Chinese women's team. It looks pretty damn brutal, like 1 full bulgarian snatch workout before they even step on the platform. But I guess when you train with sickening volume per session it seems like just a warmup.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 07 2010 03:55 GMT
#3880
question: does the fat on a cut of steak count as good fat? i always used to cut it off because i thought fat made you fat, now that i am more aware i'm really not sure
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