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BROotogy
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Eritrea149 Posts
December 08 2010 00:00 GMT
#3901
On December 07 2010 22:38 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2010 19 eshlow wrote:
On December 07 2010 19:11 rEiGN~ wrote:
Okay so, don't eat like hell with SS if you wish to look good when the summer comes. But isn't there a reason for SS's heavy diet? My logic tells me that you'd have to make adjustments to the program because isn't lighter eating going to affect your recovery, yes? Please, explain


Yes, you eat insane amounts if you're a super skinny super underweight twig of a teenager with hormones flowing out your butt

If you're obese you already have a significant amount of energy that can be applied to muscle building (in your fat cells) to use. Obviously, as BF% drops you will start to stall faster but people can make SIGNIFICANT gains if diet if manipulated correctly losing fat and gaining strength and muscle mass. The lower BF% is though the less this will work


I never heard this before. I know that you can't turn fat into muscle, but indirectly, having some amount of fat contributes to muscle building? Also, I'm well aware that the old adage "You can't gain muscle and lose fat at the same time" is bullshit, but is this what makes it possible?



Well its only half bull shit. You can be a newbie and make some good newb gains eating under maintenance and lift heavy, or you can use cell-tech and lose fat+build muscle, but after you've been lifting 6+ months I doubt its possible without good genetics.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
December 08 2010 00:14 GMT
#3902
On December 08 2010 07:27 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2010 12:16 Zerokaiser wrote:
On January 02 2010 06:25 zizou21 wrote:
GOAL: Being able to run 10 miles in one sitting. ALMOST THERE



Sorry, I know this was way back the beginning of the thread...But he is going to have a HELL of a lot of trouble pulling that one off.


Good luck to everybody and their fitness goals! I just recently went from 140lbs to 115lbs to 170lbs due to medication, so I'm hoping to get back down to 140...


not hell, but hard.
i was able to run 8 miles in 1 sitting when i was on cross country.
it was my very first time doing cross country, but i did do winter/spring track during my fresh/soph year
keep in mind i wasn't actually very good, just average.
first week of trying 8miles was a bitch. i had to walk at around the 5mile mark for a few minutes then wrapped it up with the last 3miles.
finally got the 8miles a week later.
i'd imagine if i kept at that crazy workload for a month i could hit 10 miles

that period of time was when i was the most fit in my life lol


i think(hope) he's making a joke about the fact that you can't run 10 miles if you are sitting
Advocado
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Denmark994 Posts
December 08 2010 00:24 GMT
#3903
You guys got any magic secret for figuring out your bodyfat percentage?
http://www.twitch.tv/advocadosc2
BROotogy
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Eritrea149 Posts
December 08 2010 01:05 GMT
#3904
On December 08 2010 09:24 Advocado wrote:
You guys got any magic secret for figuring out your bodyfat percentage?


Calipers? or you can post a picture up and I/tlers can give you a rough estimate.

On December 08 2010 09:14 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2010 07:27 krndandaman wrote:
On December 07 2010 12:16 Zerokaiser wrote:
On January 02 2010 06:25 zizou21 wrote:
GOAL: Being able to run 10 miles in one sitting. ALMOST THERE



Sorry, I know this was way back the beginning of the thread...But he is going to have a HELL of a lot of trouble pulling that one off.


Good luck to everybody and their fitness goals! I just recently went from 140lbs to 115lbs to 170lbs due to medication, so I'm hoping to get back down to 140...


not hell, but hard.
i was able to run 8 miles in 1 sitting when i was on cross country.
it was my very first time doing cross country, but i did do winter/spring track during my fresh/soph year
keep in mind i wasn't actually very good, just average.
first week of trying 8miles was a bitch. i had to walk at around the 5mile mark for a few minutes then wrapped it up with the last 3miles.
finally got the 8miles a week later.
i'd imagine if i kept at that crazy workload for a month i could hit 10 miles

that period of time was when i was the most fit in my life lol


i think(hope) he's making a joke about the fact that you can't run 10 miles if you are sitting


I'm not sure if the real joke is that guy trying to get to 140 lbs. Unless your 5'5 I'm pretty sure you'd look like a holocaust victim at that weight.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 08 2010 01:33 GMT
#3905
On December 08 2010 10:05 BROotogy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2010 09:24 Advocado wrote:
You guys got any magic secret for figuring out your bodyfat percentage?


Calipers? or you can post a picture up and I/tlers can give you a rough estimate.

Show nested quote +
On December 08 2010 09:14 travis wrote:
On December 08 2010 07:27 krndandaman wrote:
On December 07 2010 12:16 Zerokaiser wrote:
On January 02 2010 06:25 zizou21 wrote:
GOAL: Being able to run 10 miles in one sitting. ALMOST THERE



Sorry, I know this was way back the beginning of the thread...But he is going to have a HELL of a lot of trouble pulling that one off.


Good luck to everybody and their fitness goals! I just recently went from 140lbs to 115lbs to 170lbs due to medication, so I'm hoping to get back down to 140...


not hell, but hard.
i was able to run 8 miles in 1 sitting when i was on cross country.
it was my very first time doing cross country, but i did do winter/spring track during my fresh/soph year
keep in mind i wasn't actually very good, just average.
first week of trying 8miles was a bitch. i had to walk at around the 5mile mark for a few minutes then wrapped it up with the last 3miles.
finally got the 8miles a week later.
i'd imagine if i kept at that crazy workload for a month i could hit 10 miles

that period of time was when i was the most fit in my life lol


i think(hope) he's making a joke about the fact that you can't run 10 miles if you are sitting


I'm not sure if the real joke is that guy trying to get to 140 lbs. Unless your 5'5 I'm pretty sure you'd look like a holocaust victim at that weight.


Brad Pitt was at like 150 in Fight Club at 6foot, and that's one of the most desirable bodies in the history of femininity
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
BROotogy
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Eritrea149 Posts
December 08 2010 02:09 GMT
#3906
On December 08 2010 10:33 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2010 10:05 BROotogy wrote:
On December 08 2010 09:24 Advocado wrote:
You guys got any magic secret for figuring out your bodyfat percentage?


Calipers? or you can post a picture up and I/tlers can give you a rough estimate.

On December 08 2010 09:14 travis wrote:
On December 08 2010 07:27 krndandaman wrote:
On December 07 2010 12:16 Zerokaiser wrote:
On January 02 2010 06:25 zizou21 wrote:
GOAL: Being able to run 10 miles in one sitting. ALMOST THERE



Sorry, I know this was way back the beginning of the thread...But he is going to have a HELL of a lot of trouble pulling that one off.


Good luck to everybody and their fitness goals! I just recently went from 140lbs to 115lbs to 170lbs due to medication, so I'm hoping to get back down to 140...


not hell, but hard.
i was able to run 8 miles in 1 sitting when i was on cross country.
it was my very first time doing cross country, but i did do winter/spring track during my fresh/soph year
keep in mind i wasn't actually very good, just average.
first week of trying 8miles was a bitch. i had to walk at around the 5mile mark for a few minutes then wrapped it up with the last 3miles.
finally got the 8miles a week later.
i'd imagine if i kept at that crazy workload for a month i could hit 10 miles

that period of time was when i was the most fit in my life lol


i think(hope) he's making a joke about the fact that you can't run 10 miles if you are sitting


I'm not sure if the real joke is that guy trying to get to 140 lbs. Unless your 5'5 I'm pretty sure you'd look like a holocaust victim at that weight.


Brad Pitt was at like 150 in Fight Club at 6foot, and that's one of the most desirable bodies in the history of femininity


This is a fitness thread brah. 6 foot and 150 lbs is concentration camp status, and I'm pretty sure girls would have been fine with him being 170 lbs 10% too..
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
December 08 2010 02:30 GMT
#3907
You can check here for a rough estimate
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=214711
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
blahman3344
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2015 Posts
December 08 2010 02:42 GMT
#3908
Just curious to see if anyone would know how to deal with this:

So I've been playing DDR on heavy difficulty for a couple of years now. The thing is though, I've been doing it bare foot on a flat mat on a hard-tile floor. Because of the all the years of stamping, I think it's been getting to my knees, and now they occasionally hurt a little at certain times. Is there any way that I can get rid of this problem through certain stretches/exercises, or is this something for the doctor?
I like haikus and / I can not lie. You other / brothers can't deny
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
December 08 2010 02:48 GMT
#3909
You can definitely get rid of the pain through stretches, but always check with a doctor first. He might send you to a physical therapist.
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
December 08 2010 05:54 GMT
#3910
On December 08 2010 11:42 blahman3344 wrote:
Just curious to see if anyone would know how to deal with this:

So I've been playing DDR on heavy difficulty for a couple of years now. The thing is though, I've been doing it bare foot on a flat mat on a hard-tile floor. Because of the all the years of stamping, I think it's been getting to my knees, and now they occasionally hurt a little at certain times. Is there any way that I can get rid of this problem through certain stretches/exercises, or is this something for the doctor?


Depends what the problem is....

See an orthopedic doc.. get a diagnosis... from there you can do rehab protocols
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-08 07:11:29
December 08 2010 07:10 GMT
#3911
On December 08 2010 09:00 BROotogy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2010 22 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
On December 07 2010 19 eshlow wrote:
On December 07 2010 19:11 rEiGN~ wrote:
Okay so, don't eat like hell with SS if you wish to look good when the summer comes. But isn't there a reason for SS's heavy diet? My logic tells me that you'd have to make adjustments to the program because isn't lighter eating going to affect your recovery, yes? Please, explain


Yes, you eat insane amounts if you're a super skinny super underweight twig of a teenager with hormones flowing out your butt

If you're obese you already have a significant amount of energy that can be applied to muscle building (in your fat cells) to use. Obviously, as BF% drops you will start to stall faster but people can make SIGNIFICANT gains if diet if manipulated correctly losing fat and gaining strength and muscle mass. The lower BF% is though the less this will work


I never heard this before. I know that you can't turn fat into muscle, but indirectly, having some amount of fat contributes to muscle building? Also, I'm well aware that the old adage "You can't gain muscle and lose fat at the same time" is bullshit, but is this what makes it possible?



Well its only half bull shit. You can be a newbie and make some good newb gains eating under maintenance and lift heavy, or you can use cell-tech and lose fat+build muscle, but after you've been lifting 6+ months I doubt its possible without good genetics.


What.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
December 08 2010 07:25 GMT
#3912
On December 08 2010 16:10 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2010 09:00 BROotogy wrote:
On December 07 2010 22 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
On December 07 2010 19 eshlow wrote:
On December 07 2010 19:11 rEiGN~ wrote:
Okay so, don't eat like hell with SS if you wish to look good when the summer comes. But isn't there a reason for SS's heavy diet? My logic tells me that you'd have to make adjustments to the program because isn't lighter eating going to affect your recovery, yes? Please, explain


Yes, you eat insane amounts if you're a super skinny super underweight twig of a teenager with hormones flowing out your butt

If you're obese you already have a significant amount of energy that can be applied to muscle building (in your fat cells) to use. Obviously, as BF% drops you will start to stall faster but people can make SIGNIFICANT gains if diet if manipulated correctly losing fat and gaining strength and muscle mass. The lower BF% is though the less this will work


I never heard this before. I know that you can't turn fat into muscle, but indirectly, having some amount of fat contributes to muscle building? Also, I'm well aware that the old adage "You can't gain muscle and lose fat at the same time" is bullshit, but is this what makes it possible?



Well its only half bull shit. You can be a newbie and make some good newb gains eating under maintenance and lift heavy, or you can use cell-tech and lose fat+build muscle, but after you've been lifting 6+ months I doubt its possible without good genetics.


What.


don't u know about cell tech bro? it's the future
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
December 08 2010 10:33 GMT
#3913
On December 08 2010 16:10 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2010 09:00 BROotogy wrote:
On December 07 2010 22 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
On December 07 2010 19 eshlow wrote:
On December 07 2010 19:11 rEiGN~ wrote:
Okay so, don't eat like hell with SS if you wish to look good when the summer comes. But isn't there a reason for SS's heavy diet? My logic tells me that you'd have to make adjustments to the program because isn't lighter eating going to affect your recovery, yes? Please, explain


Yes, you eat insane amounts if you're a super skinny super underweight twig of a teenager with hormones flowing out your butt

If you're obese you already have a significant amount of energy that can be applied to muscle building (in your fat cells) to use. Obviously, as BF% drops you will start to stall faster but people can make SIGNIFICANT gains if diet if manipulated correctly losing fat and gaining strength and muscle mass. The lower BF% is though the less this will work


I never heard this before. I know that you can't turn fat into muscle, but indirectly, having some amount of fat contributes to muscle building? Also, I'm well aware that the old adage "You can't gain muscle and lose fat at the same time" is bullshit, but is this what makes it possible?



Well its only half bull shit. You can be a newbie and make some good newb gains eating under maintenance and lift heavy, or you can use cell-tech and lose fat+build muscle, but after you've been lifting 6+ months I doubt its possible without good genetics.


What.


wow! nice spot
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
December 08 2010 11:26 GMT
#3914
This is going to be a douchebag question. But how do I get bigger, stronger arms.

I feel stupid being able to squat and deadlift a small horse and then on the other hand not being able to finish 1 set of dumbbell curls with 17.5kg weights.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
December 08 2010 12:16 GMT
#3915
Do BB Curls That and heavy rows and heavy benching is my favourite.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9377 Posts
December 08 2010 12:28 GMT
#3916
yesterday I deadlifted 200lbs. Felt like the world was my bitch. 3x5 :D!
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
December 08 2010 12:35 GMT
#3917
Grats mate, but aren't you squatting 100kg?
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9377 Posts
December 08 2010 12:47 GMT
#3918
On December 08 2010 21:35 Energies wrote:
Grats mate, but aren't you squatting 100kg?


Yes. But I stopped doing deadlift since I couldn't find any chalk around here, I did 90kg barehanded and it felt great! tomorrow Imma try with 95-100 :D babysteps bro!
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
December 08 2010 12:55 GMT
#3919
On December 08 2010 21:28 funkie wrote:
yesterday I deadlifted 200lbs. Felt like the world was my bitch. 3x5 :D!


Er, on deadlift you're only supposed to do 1x5. I like your effort and all but the lower back recovers slowly, so if that was a strenuous 3x5, you're gonna have some serious DOMS tomorrow.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9377 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-08 13:02:44
December 08 2010 13:01 GMT
#3920
On December 08 2010 21:55 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2010 21:28 funkie wrote:
yesterday I deadlifted 200lbs. Felt like the world was my bitch. 3x5 :D!


Er, on deadlift you're only supposed to do 1x5. I like your effort and all but the lower back recovers slowly, so if that was a strenuous 3x5, you're gonna have some serious DOMS tomorrow.


rofl holy shit you're right.

No wonder I was dying when I started doing them ;O! :D

Thanks for the heads up! and no, I don't have any pain or anything in my lower back at all.

edit: and No, it wasn't particularly hard, it just has been quite some time since I last did them (like 3-4weeks) and it felt great to do them without thinking "the bar is going to fall fawwkakwakwk"
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
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