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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
November 03 2010 04:14 GMT
#3301
On November 03 2010 12:16 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2010 10:19 decafchicken wrote:

On November 03 2010 07:17 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On November 03 2010 06:43 funkie wrote:
On November 03 2010 03:26 decafchicken wrote:
On November 02 2010 21:43 funkie wrote:
I'm 70,4kg.

wtf?


lol how much kg in what time span is that?



Eh, about 8-10kg in roughly 2 months or so? XD

I don't know, It hit me so hard today when I weighted myself and I was in 70,4kg.

Holy the big shit.


It's like when I weighed myself a few days ago and was 199 out of nowhere, feels good man.


Same weight as me...Race you to a 1500lb 3 lift total? :D


My total is currently 985. You're on. But I'm sending some thugs to slash your hamstrings.


Fair 'nuff. I'm probably around 1100-1200. You can close that gap ez
On November 03 2010 12:09 eshlow wrote:
Almost have my one arm chin back YAY!


That's nuts. I just kind of hang there useless
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
November 03 2010 04:32 GMT
#3302
On November 03 2010 12:28 Drowsy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2010 12:09 eshlow wrote:
Almost have my one arm chin back YAY!



At what bw? I am told you need to be able to do chin with bw +125 ish to be able to do a 1 arm chin, seems realllllyyy far off for me.


135 lbs.... I used to have 4.5 on my L and 5 on my R. Vids are on my youtube.

In general the numbers are approximately chinning about +80-90% bodyweight to do OAC.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
November 03 2010 04:54 GMT
#3303
On November 03 2010 13:32 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2010 12:28 Drowsy wrote:
On November 03 2010 12:09 eshlow wrote:
Almost have my one arm chin back YAY!



At what bw? I am told you need to be able to do chin with bw +125 ish to be able to do a 1 arm chin, seems realllllyyy far off for me.


135 lbs.... I used to have 4.5 on my L and 5 on my R. Vids are on my youtube.

In general the numbers are approximately chinning about +80-90% bodyweight to do OAC.


link to your youtube?
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
November 03 2010 05:11 GMT
#3304
http://www.youtube.com/user/eshlow
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
November 03 2010 05:23 GMT
#3305
lol why did i think that eshlow was white this whole time
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
November 03 2010 12:24 GMT
#3306
I disagree. I think it's partially cultural and mostly hormonal. There's always the fear of getting big/bulky/manly from lifting weights, but this cannot be the sole reason why it's so rare to see women training with barbells. Certainly there are individual women who can do it, but a majority of them just don't have the drive/instinct necessary to have any desire to lift weights properly. A majority of men don't either, but a smaller majority. It takes a certain mentality to get under the bar and perform a true 3rm/5rm/whatever rm set of properly done squats and most people just don't have the toughness to do it on a consistent basis. Having, on average, less testosterone makes it even less likely an individual can do this.

We give athletes testosterone so they can train harder, have more drive and desire to train, prevent injury, and fuel recovery. It should reasonably follow then that since men have more testosterone, on average they have more desire to train and to train harder.


Just to be clear here, are you giving some kind of biological basis for women to be lazy in the weight room?
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9377 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-03 13:08:07
November 03 2010 12:57 GMT
#3307
I want to do manna .

everytime i watch eshlow videos is like, DO IT RAUL DO IT yOU CAN DO IT. ;D

Edit: btw. anybody has a video on the NeedSize Sit Ups? I want to start them, but I can't find any video on how to do them.

Rippetoe also said that he liked knees to elbows.



I want!
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
November 03 2010 14:10 GMT
#3308
On November 03 2010 14:23 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
lol why did i think that eshlow was white this whole time


Cause asian people aren't usually into exercise and nutrition?
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
November 03 2010 14:18 GMT
#3309
YOU ARE FUCKING STRONG ESHLOW OMG O__________________O

Brb, got to find my chin, dropped it on the floor.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9377 Posts
November 03 2010 14:22 GMT
#3310
On November 03 2010 23:10 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2010 14:23 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
lol why did i think that eshlow was white this whole time


Cause asian people aren't usually into exercise and nutrition?



You is not asian.

You is not even human.

You're beast.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
November 03 2010 14:41 GMT
#3311
Mark Rippetoe with a good article on the Texas method

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/the_texas_method

lol, thanks guys
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
November 03 2010 14:52 GMT
#3312
On a side note: Is anyone here into powerlifting?
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-03 16:31:43
November 03 2010 15:43 GMT
#3313
On November 03 2010 23:52 sJarl wrote:
On a side note: Is anyone here into powerlifting?


As a sport not really. Most people here are on some compound lift routine, but everyone has their reasons. Decaf is into rugby, Dimsum is an olympic lifter, Funkie is just working on his strength, and Eshlow is doing all of that crazy shit that we saw him do on Youtube. I personally just want to get as big and strong as possible, and if I decided to go any specific lifting route, it would be olympic.

I don't know how much people around these parts really like what powerlifting has become in modern times.

Edit:

Ready to start the advanced novice program this Friday. Thanks to pneumonia I've had to take two weeks off, and I'm probably as weak as a little girl right now. I'm going to deload 20% on all lifts just to be safe. All I know right now is that I gotta bulk up again; I lost a good five kilograms when I was sick in bed. At least I'm confident that my muscle mass will come back quickly again.

Once this finishes I guess I'm going to start the Texas Method, or maybe Madcow's 5x5. I'm still torn here, but the Texas Method includes a reaaaaaaaaaaally busy workout one day a week, and I'm not so sure I have the time for it. Seriously, five sets of 90% 5RM squats with 6 minutes of rest between each, then the same with bench press or press, plus a set of deadlifts. That would take like an hour and a half.
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
November 03 2010 16:40 GMT
#3314
Once this finishes I guess I'm going to start the Texas Method, or maybe Madcow's 5x5. I'm still torn here, but the Texas Method includes a reaaaaaaaaaaally busy workout one day a week, and I'm not so sure I have the time for it. Seriously, five sets of 90% 5RM squats with 6 minutes of rest between each, then the same with bench press or press, plus a set of deadlifts. That would take like an hour and a half.


I take an hour and a half for just flat bench and close grip...

But pneumonia sucks big time, you get so weak after it. Just take it easy for the first sessions and get in the routine again and your stats will fly up again. Where are your lifts at now (or before you got sick)?
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
November 03 2010 17:15 GMT
#3315
On November 04 2010 01 sJarl wrote:
Show nested quote +
Once this finishes I guess I'm going to start the Texas Method, or maybe Madcow's 5x5. I'm still torn here, but the Texas Method includes a reaaaaaaaaaaally busy workout one day a week, and I'm not so sure I have the time for it. Seriously, five sets of 90% 5RM squats with 6 minutes of rest between each, then the same with bench press or press, plus a set of deadlifts. That would take like an hour and a half.


I take an hour and a half for just flat bench and close grip...

But pneumonia sucks big time, you get so weak after it. Just take it easy for the first sessions and get in the routine again and your stats will fly up again. Where are your lifts at now (or before you got sick)?


The timing was good I guess; if I had to get sick, it might as well have been right at the end of my Starting Strength linear progression.

Everything x5x3:

Squat: 118kg
Bench: 92kg
Dead: 150kg
Press: 66kg
Pull: +12kg
Chin: +18kg

I guess I'll deload by 20% instead of 10%, which is recommended.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-03 17:23:04
November 03 2010 17:17 GMT
#3316
On November 03 2010 23:52 sJarl wrote:
On a side note: Is anyone here into powerlifting?


I enjoy the power lifts like dl/squat/bench but would never do it competitively because
a) best rugby player i can be =/= best powerlifter i can be
b) i hate all the suits and wraps and techniques used in it. when i do my lifts i do them to get the most gains i can get out of them not to put up the highest numbers i can.
this lift:+ Show Spoiler +

is 10289x more awesome than this lift: + Show Spoiler +
world record squat

to me

I cant imagine spending 90 minutes on benching T_T

Eshlow can do a dip with me on his back and i can't do one with him on mine...
Do you know how much you can deadlift?

On November 03 2010 21:24 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
I disagree. I think it's partially cultural and mostly hormonal. There's always the fear of getting big/bulky/manly from lifting weights, but this cannot be the sole reason why it's so rare to see women training with barbells. Certainly there are individual women who can do it, but a majority of them just don't have the drive/instinct necessary to have any desire to lift weights properly. A majority of men don't either, but a smaller majority. It takes a certain mentality to get under the bar and perform a true 3rm/5rm/whatever rm set of properly done squats and most people just don't have the toughness to do it on a consistent basis. Having, on average, less testosterone makes it even less likely an individual can do this.

We give athletes testosterone so they can train harder, have more drive and desire to train, prevent injury, and fuel recovery. It should reasonably follow then that since men have more testosterone, on average they have more desire to train and to train harder.


Just to be clear here, are you giving some kind of biological basis for women to be lazy in the weight room?


Not lazy, just less inclined to pick twice their bodyweight off the ground.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-03 17:50:09
November 03 2010 17:49 GMT
#3317
Decaf:

My DL was up to 285x3 in early '07 after about 4-5 sessions of lifting, but have since had some knee problems and other issues... hope to get going again soon. Pretty much could do 2x bodyweight right off the bat from the strength I've had from bodyweight strength exercises. Would like to get it up to 400 lbs for the 3x bodyweight.

Also, Broz has 800 lbs ATG squat of Pat on his youtube now too
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
November 03 2010 19:04 GMT
#3318
@RosaParks: Those are pretty nice stats. Also, I'd not be to stuck up with precentages and rather go with whatever feels right.

@Decaf: Of course being a good rugby player is top priority for you (and from what I've read you are doing pretty good at it too!). And those 90 minutes didn't feel long, just took my time between the sets. But it could've been done alot faster.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-04 01:38:52
November 04 2010 01:38 GMT
#3319
Squat cleans 3x 135 155 175 185 195 205 215 225
Incline bench 5x 185 205 205 205 195
Pull ups + 25lbs 8,5,5,5
So then i go to our conditioning practice
22 hill sprints (~15-20m)
6 partner carries up hill
and 40 minutes of sprints/sit ups/push ups

Still standing somehow (after heavy squats monday and heavy deads yesterday as well)
Overtraining? Probably. Am i going to cry tomorrow? Likely. Do i feel awesome? Definitely
I'm seriously going to run over, through, and around everyone next weekend no matter what.

Lots of recovery tomorrow. Except for practice (lol. hopefully its ezpz)

edit: eshlow you make me feel like a little girl and i'm like twice your size
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9377 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-04 03:15:49
November 04 2010 02:03 GMT
#3320
Squat: 100kg (who's your daddy)
Benchpress: 65kg.
Deadlift: 90kg.

It's so shitty that I can't get over 90-95kg on deadlift without my hands killing me . I bought some chalk, but it will arrive sometime december rofl

I feel awesome cause I hit 100kg again, and felt no pain, no nothing, I was so fucking energetic today, despite having a shitty "feel-like-shit" day :o!

It's like I'M AWESOME all of the sudden :D

I also did, L-Pullups and knees-to-elbows ;P. that worked wonders.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
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