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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
October 28 2010 03:38 GMT
#3181
The best part of the video is the "gotta rack it"
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-28 03:45:29
October 28 2010 03:45 GMT
#3182
I guess that's his 1RM..
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
October 28 2010 08:29 GMT
#3183
Holy shit! He dropped down fast.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
October 28 2010 10:30 GMT
#3184
On October 28 2010 17:29 sJarl wrote:
Holy shit! He dropped down fast.


May have something to do with the 800 pounds on his back .
doerit
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany234 Posts
October 28 2010 11:08 GMT
#3185
Imo a belt is personal preference.

Whenever I go below 5 reps I use my belt for Squats/Deadlift/rowing exercises, because with it i can tell better whether my back is straight or not. I don't even make it 100% tight.

Most people think it helps you prevent injuries, but very often people just use it as an excuse not to learn proper technique.
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
October 28 2010 13:28 GMT
#3186
On October 28 2010 19:30 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2010 17:29 sJarl wrote:
Holy shit! He dropped down fast.


May have something to do with the 800 pounds on his back .


I think its more about to get that bounce out of the bottom.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
October 28 2010 13:40 GMT
#3187
I have given up gluten and dairy, along with my diet and supplements my intake couldn't be any healthier, I just consume copious amounts of meat and vegetables. I'm also working out 5 days a week.

BUT.

I can't quit drinking. Seriously, I just enjoy it way too much, after a long day at work and perhaps a 1-2 hour gym session all I want to do is shower, cook dinner and sit in front of the laptop or TV and have a couple of drinks. I don't binge drink, as in I don't go out and drink 10-15 drinks but I do have 1-2 glasses of red wine or 1-2 spirits every night.

How much of a hindrance are those couple of drinks to my progress? At the moment I'm just trying to cut down a look good neked body.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20023 Posts
October 28 2010 13:53 GMT
#3188
I'm pretty sure a glass of some daily is actually healthy. However the 15 beers/shots I consume twice a week is pretty terrible for you. But so much fun
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
doerit
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany234 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-28 15:16:57
October 28 2010 15:07 GMT
#3189
Drinking EVERY day is a form of alcoholism, the amount doesn't matter.

And one glass of alcohol is pretty much already unhealthy, there were some studies about small amouts of alcohol that suggested these amounts are healthy. But these studies were designed very poorly and the outcome cannot be taken too seriously.

If you going for 100% every ounce is too much.

I read the book "Mind Gym" by Mack Casstevens a while ago and he quoted Knute Rockne when it comes to drinks:
"Drink the first one, sip the second, and refuse the third".

Sam Sheridan wrote in "A Fighter's Heart" that a couple of beers one weekend ruined his last few weeks of training. But he was talking about having his top form and that nutrition, training, regeneration, etc. have to be perfect to keep it.

Personally I don't drink at all. I have cut my alcohol intake to zero over the past years and even one single beer gives my an aweful headache the next day (I guess I'd need to "train" more lol).

I would try not to drink every single day, but I don't think it will hurt your progress a lot if you drink the mentioned amounts sometimes. But again, this is just my opinion!
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
October 28 2010 15:33 GMT
#3190
On October 29 2010 00:07 doerit wrote:
Drinking EVERY day is a form of alcoholism, the amount doesn't matter.


Such set rules about alcohol and alcoholism seldom work :\.

Alcoholism is a very specific disease related to dependency and chemistry. It is slightly related to drinking behavior, but rules such as "if you drink alone you're an alcoholic" are ridiculous in principle. There are multiple studies linking heart health and moderate drinking practices (moderate is considered a maximum of 2 drinks a day, well over his daily average), and pretty much no evidence to suggest that people who drink a moderate amount of alcohol every day are at risk for developing alcoholism.

Decaf on the other hand ... sorry buddy, but that doesn't sound all that healthy .
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-28 15:47:09
October 28 2010 15:41 GMT
#3191
On October 29 2010 00:33 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2010 00:07 doerit wrote:
Drinking EVERY day is a form of alcoholism, the amount doesn't matter.


Such set rules about alcol and alcoholism seldom work :\.

Alcoholism is a very specific disease related to dependency and chemistry. It is slightly related to drinking behavior, but rules such as "if you drink alone you're an alcoholic" are ridiculous in principle. There are multiple studies linking heart health and moderate drinking practices (moderate is considered a maximum of 2 drinks a day, well over his daily average), and pretty much no evidence to suggest that people who drink a moderate amount of alcohol every day are at risk for developing alcoholism.

Decaf on the other hand ... sorry buddy, but that doesn't sound all that healthy .


Decaf sounds just like any other college student to me. Sure, it isn't the most healthy thing you could be doing for yourself, but I'm sure he can handle it; being that he is an athlete and is otherwise concerned about diet, I'm actually pretty sure he's better off than most college students. And he only drinks twice a week.

That's not to say it wouldn't be better not to drink, but its certainly not going to kill anyone here.
doerit
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany234 Posts
October 28 2010 15:50 GMT
#3192
On October 29 2010 00:33 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2010 00:07 doerit wrote:
Drinking EVERY day is a form of alcoholism, the amount doesn't matter.


Such set rules about alcohol and alcoholism seldom work :\.

Alcoholism is a very specific disease related to dependency and chemistry. It is slightly related to drinking behavior, but rules such as "if you drink alone you're an alcoholic" are ridiculous in principle. There are multiple studies linking heart health and moderate drinking practices (moderate is considered a maximum of 2 drinks a day, well over his daily average), and pretty much no evidence to suggest that people who drink a moderate amount of alcohol every day are at risk for developing alcoholism.


You are right. I was talking about the textbook defintion.

Let's say it this way: If you need your drink every day, than you have an alcohol dependecy. It is not said, that you will develop (health) problems because of that.

I know about some studies linking heart health and moderate drinking and these do not stand a deeper scientific analysis.
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
October 28 2010 15:57 GMT
#3193
Let's say it this way: If you need your drink every day, than you have an alcohol dependecy. It is not said, that you will develop (health) problems because of that.


You're confusing dependency with desire. Obviously when he says "need" he's using the word in an exaggerating manner. I don't think he's going to start getting the shakes if he doesn't have a drink every day, just that he really enjoys it and it's one thing he doesn't want to cut out.
doerit
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany234 Posts
October 28 2010 16:01 GMT
#3194
On October 29 2010 00:57 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
Let's say it this way: If you need your drink every day, than you have an alcohol dependecy. It is not said, that you will develop (health) problems because of that.


You're confusing dependency with desire. Obviously when he says "need" he's using the word in an exaggerating manner. I don't think he's going to start getting the shakes if he doesn't have a drink every day, just that he really enjoys it and it's one thing he doesn't want to cut out.


No I am not

He did not say that, but there are people out there who get really pissed off if they don't get their closing time beer.

And that is a dependency, an every day routine. By no means a physical dependency, but a mental one.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20023 Posts
October 28 2010 17:42 GMT
#3195
Coming up from the front squat in a good clean feels AWESOME
did 3x135 155 175 185 205 215 and 2x225 for cleans. Still working on my form and my wrist is still not 100% but i only missed one rep.
Then did OHP for the first time in forever...need to start doing it more i feel like my shoulders are getting disproportionately small.

how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
doerit
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany234 Posts
October 28 2010 17:53 GMT
#3196
On October 29 2010 02:42 decafchicken wrote:
Coming up from the front squat in a good clean feels AWESOME
did 3x135 155 175 185 205 215 and 2x225 for cleans. Still working on my form and my wrist is still not 100% but i only missed one rep.
Then did OHP for the first time in forever...need to start doing it more i feel like my shoulders are getting disproportionately small.



How did you learn the clean technique? I haven't found anyone who can really tell me how to do that exercise right

Watching youtube videos is ok, but not enough to really get it.
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
October 28 2010 19:38 GMT
#3197


This dude has a pretty good technique imo and has a slow mo version of the vid aswell.

Decaf: Why in the world haven't you been doing OHP's? They are like the most fun thing ever.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20023 Posts
October 28 2010 19:48 GMT
#3198
On October 29 2010 04:38 sJarl wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfuP0KxJV9w

This dude has a pretty good technique imo and has a slow mo version of the vid aswell.

Decaf: Why in the world haven't you been doing OHP's? They are like the most fun thing ever.


Wrist kept me for ~2-3 months. And i've been working my bench hardcore to recover since i've been able to start pressing heavy (probably gone up ~40 pounds in a month)

And yeah do that ^
Start light, and if you can take videos and we can critique your form.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
doerit
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany234 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-28 20:01:58
October 28 2010 20:00 GMT
#3199
I am working out at home atm, I have a bag filled with 50-75kg of sand and I do almost all my exercises with that.

I might sound not a lot but this training is really awesome, you have to stabalize this damn bag so much that your core has to work overtime. And besides that my grip strength has improved a lot as well. I can power clean that bag ok, because when I was trying the actual clean my biggest problem was the transition part from the upward movement to the front squat.

But I am sick anyways...tright to work out today but stopped after 10min and my internet connection is too bad for serious starcraft as well

btw thanks for the vids
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
October 28 2010 22:56 GMT
#3200
On October 29 2010 00:57 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
Let's say it this way: If you need your drink every day, than you have an alcohol dependecy. It is not said, that you will develop (health) problems because of that.


You're confusing dependency with desire. Obviously when he says "need" he's using the word in an exaggerating manner. I don't think he's going to start getting the shakes if he doesn't have a drink every day, just that he really enjoys it and it's one thing he doesn't want to cut out.


This!

I won't drink if I have an early morning gym session or If I have had a unhealthy food day.
I just enjoy being in a mellow mood listening to music before heading to bed!

I gave up drinking for 8-9 months on my initial weight loss, I've just given up so many of the things I enjoy and I put in so much hard work at the gym, it just seems un-fucking fair to have to give up a couple of drinks as well. I guess it's more psychological/emotional than dependence.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
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