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Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
September 02 2010 11:49 GMT
#2261
Did another cycle class today, sweat major amounts of balls, never have I done cardio this intense.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
Jaeng
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada110 Posts
September 02 2010 13:55 GMT
#2262
Keep on going guys!

The hardest thing to do when getting in shape is keep going, even if you are tired and want to quit, or SORE from the previous days workout, you have to keep pushing!

After those first 2 weeks youll be gold and wont be sore as much.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
September 02 2010 14:56 GMT
#2263
On September 02 2010 20:49 Energies wrote:
Did another cycle class today, sweat major amounts of balls, never have I done cardio this intense.



I do tae-Bo classes every tuesday and thursday.

Holy shit, I sweat my life away lolol
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-02 15:25:46
September 02 2010 15:24 GMT
#2264
On September 02 2010 09:38 funkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 06:58 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
On September 02 2010 03:45 mOnion wrote:
so since the reason I started working out was to eventually get into parkour, I've started step 2 of my plan

Gymnastics

went monday for the first time and it was absolutely sick. learned how to do a backhand spring and standing back tuck in like 30 minutes and the workout after was awesome. really excited that everything's kind of coming together

On September 01 2010 07:53 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
On September 01 2010 04:47 decafchicken wrote:
380 on each side. of a 100 pound bar. for reps ez

First day of rugby practice today, going to fucking RUN KIDS OVERRRR. sore as fuck from yesterday though T_T

eshlow what should i do for my back?

And funkie if you put on 70 pounds and squat for a year you could lift like that too I think i've added ~100 pounds to my max since last fall for squats and deads. Bench is going backwards do to fucking injuries T_T

Wait theres 100 pound bars? Just the bar alone wtf lol. I won't even be able to lift the bar.

Been having half gallon of milk yesterday and today. Will eventually turn to 1 gallon a day by end of week. Just slowly adding. Minor problem is literally the only milk I have access to is skim milk with 1%/2% fat reduced. When I get a chance since I don't drive yet/access to car will need to get whole milk in bulk. Planning on next workout tomorrow. Walking was a bit uncomfortable today, especially going up the stairs. Good feeling though :D.

Oh yeah I have one question though is about power cleans. From reading the starting strength wiki it seems it says not to try power cleans with a standard barbell. Does that mean I should do something else if I'm not sure if the barbells I'm using in my gym are Olympic/have spinning collars or does this only have to do with heavier weights? The same question with bumper plates too. And also the gym I'm only seem to have 5, 10, 25, 45 lbs plates. Isn't that big yet because I'll add about 10+ lbs each workout for a bit, but wondering what to do when I start stalling.


im so proud of you hi5 \o

as far as power clean goes its really okay to use a regular bar at the lower weights. I haven't had any trouble with it so far. the problem is plates, cuz as you get higher up the weight gets really fucking heavy and when you drop the weight at the end of every single rep you have to hold onto the bar (if its regular plates) which is thrashing my shoulder and elbows. so if your gym has bumper plates, use em on power clean for sure.

also DONT add 10 pounds to each workout, just add 5 to each one otherwise you'll stall really fast.


<3
After looking around today found that there are some 2.5 lb plates. Gym doesn't have bumper plates so I guess I'll learn to do it/form with lighter weights until I can't without dropping it.

Also press is mad hard. God I barely finished with the bar alone 3x5.


Haha I thought power cleans were harder, much harder.

I did my second day of SS today.

Squats, Power Clean and Press.

Holy shit, my last set of press I was about to fucking die, and I performed well in Squats, I feel as my form is getting better and better, and well, Watching Rippetoe's video in Squat, Power Clean, and Press were fucking helpful.

Been drinking milk like a nutzo, eating lots and lots. Happy as it gets.

go workout buddy!, add 10lbs to that bar, and rape some shit UP! :D

Well by hard I didn't mean the overall form but just how heavy it felt. And I didn't do power cleans on second workout. Did pull ups. Not going to add 10 lbs for press to bar lol. Shits too heavy gonna go with 5.

Because I wasn't sure what to do with power cleans on 2nd workout I just did pull ups but next week I'll start them. Also I don't know if its just a placebo effect but usually when I lift hard I'm sore for like days after because I'm such a lazy bum. But after the first workout on Monday, Tuesday morning was sore. But was surprised as hell on Wednesday I barely felt sore at all. I wondered if it was just all the protein I'm getting from milk which is helping me recover so fast. Also another thing I noticed about SS or more squats/dead lift. Unlike just doing bench press and curls in the gym which just makes you sore like in your biceps and pecs the next day. After a SS workout the next day my whole body is sore. Really is a full body workout. Feels like it too.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
September 02 2010 16:09 GMT
#2265
I never feel sore in my pecs, after anything, It sucks. I WANT MA BARREL CHEST.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
September 02 2010 16:43 GMT
#2266
On September 03 2010 00:24 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 09:38 funkie wrote:
On September 02 2010 06:58 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
On September 02 2010 03:45 mOnion wrote:
so since the reason I started working out was to eventually get into parkour, I've started step 2 of my plan

Gymnastics

went monday for the first time and it was absolutely sick. learned how to do a backhand spring and standing back tuck in like 30 minutes and the workout after was awesome. really excited that everything's kind of coming together

On September 01 2010 07:53 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
On September 01 2010 04:47 decafchicken wrote:
380 on each side. of a 100 pound bar. for reps ez

First day of rugby practice today, going to fucking RUN KIDS OVERRRR. sore as fuck from yesterday though T_T

eshlow what should i do for my back?

And funkie if you put on 70 pounds and squat for a year you could lift like that too I think i've added ~100 pounds to my max since last fall for squats and deads. Bench is going backwards do to fucking injuries T_T

Wait theres 100 pound bars? Just the bar alone wtf lol. I won't even be able to lift the bar.

Been having half gallon of milk yesterday and today. Will eventually turn to 1 gallon a day by end of week. Just slowly adding. Minor problem is literally the only milk I have access to is skim milk with 1%/2% fat reduced. When I get a chance since I don't drive yet/access to car will need to get whole milk in bulk. Planning on next workout tomorrow. Walking was a bit uncomfortable today, especially going up the stairs. Good feeling though :D.

Oh yeah I have one question though is about power cleans. From reading the starting strength wiki it seems it says not to try power cleans with a standard barbell. Does that mean I should do something else if I'm not sure if the barbells I'm using in my gym are Olympic/have spinning collars or does this only have to do with heavier weights? The same question with bumper plates too. And also the gym I'm only seem to have 5, 10, 25, 45 lbs plates. Isn't that big yet because I'll add about 10+ lbs each workout for a bit, but wondering what to do when I start stalling.


im so proud of you hi5 \o

as far as power clean goes its really okay to use a regular bar at the lower weights. I haven't had any trouble with it so far. the problem is plates, cuz as you get higher up the weight gets really fucking heavy and when you drop the weight at the end of every single rep you have to hold onto the bar (if its regular plates) which is thrashing my shoulder and elbows. so if your gym has bumper plates, use em on power clean for sure.

also DONT add 10 pounds to each workout, just add 5 to each one otherwise you'll stall really fast.


<3
After looking around today found that there are some 2.5 lb plates. Gym doesn't have bumper plates so I guess I'll learn to do it/form with lighter weights until I can't without dropping it.

Also press is mad hard. God I barely finished with the bar alone 3x5.


Haha I thought power cleans were harder, much harder.

I did my second day of SS today.

Squats, Power Clean and Press.

Holy shit, my last set of press I was about to fucking die, and I performed well in Squats, I feel as my form is getting better and better, and well, Watching Rippetoe's video in Squat, Power Clean, and Press were fucking helpful.

Been drinking milk like a nutzo, eating lots and lots. Happy as it gets.

go workout buddy!, add 10lbs to that bar, and rape some shit UP! :D

Well by hard I didn't mean the overall form but just how heavy it felt. And I didn't do power cleans on second workout. Did pull ups. Not going to add 10 lbs for press to bar lol. Shits too heavy gonna go with 5.

Because I wasn't sure what to do with power cleans on 2nd workout I just did pull ups but next week I'll start them. Also I don't know if its just a placebo effect but usually when I lift hard I'm sore for like days after because I'm such a lazy bum. But after the first workout on Monday, Tuesday morning was sore. But was surprised as hell on Wednesday I barely felt sore at all. I wondered if it was just all the protein I'm getting from milk which is helping me recover so fast. Also another thing I noticed about SS or more squats/dead lift. Unlike just doing bench press and curls in the gym which just makes you sore like in your biceps and pecs the next day. After a SS workout the next day my whole body is sore. Really is a full body workout. Feels like it too.


Yep I know what you mean.

for starters I was scared of doing Power Cleans, just because I've never seen anyone do it, and I have never done pretty much none of these exercises ever in my life. But yes, they target your full body.

I fucking love Squatting, once you get comfortable with your form, and such, you start feeling more and more secure of what you're doing, I watched Rippetoe's video on Squat, and the whole thing about the Hip Drive. It was incredibly helpful, and if you want to squat like Decaf (that's my goal now, squat like nutzo!) you should really check it out. Each of his videos, are super super super good, and explain everything in detail, The best of it all, he tells the people he's coaching why the bar needs to be here and there, where does the bar rest, and where it should, and how to properly perform all of these SS workouts.

Yeah, I haven't been drinking that much milk, today I haven't had any, and I miss it, it's incredibly helpful the protein the milk gives you, and well, I'm going to start drinking heavily today or tomorrow. Hopefully today (since it's a rest day, and I need the protein to recover fast).

Tomorrow is my third day with SS, doing workout A again. I'm worried about Deadlift since last time, some guy told me to do "romanian Deadlift", and well, I didn't like it, and I'm going to do full deadlift as how Rippetoe says. .

Other than that, I struggled on my last set of press, since there were 30pounds on each side of the bar+the bar weight, going to add another 5-10lbs next workout. The Powercleans went pretty good too, I used 20lbs on each side of the bar+the bar weight, and I performed well, struggling in my last work set.

I strongly recommend to do the warmup sets, they prepare you for what's coming, and you'll get a better feel on how to end and start your exercise.

Overall I feel the changes, my body isn't as sore as it was on tuesday, and yesterday I performed quite well, and I can't complain. I should have done SS long ago, but I was hesitant. Now, I can't be happier .

Hungry! lunch time! potato and tunaa yeaaa :D
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Kelorienne
Profile Joined July 2010
United States50 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-02 20:15:48
September 02 2010 17:09 GMT
#2267
Hi, i think I'll PM you later since I don't think i can from my iPhone but to everyone,specially my fellow ladies that have any questions or just want specific information about physical activity, PM me, I've been training in the gym ever since i was in middle school and I've kept going since I joined the volleyball AND cheerleading teams. I've also learned many tricks of the trade from proffessionals and random guys I've dated lol.Check out my youtube channel,I think i might put some videos there tosuggest fun things you can do to stay fit"YouTube.com/frostmageowns" it was originally a place to put wow vids I liked but whatever. And my contribution to this topic is don't give up, I looked unattractive as hell when I began to go and so is 90% of the population so just stick to it and ignore other people
Pls PM me if you want me to read something, I rarely check topics for replys
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
September 02 2010 17:13 GMT
#2268
On September 03 2010 02:09 Kelorienne wrote:
Hi, i think I'll PM you later since I don't think i can from my iPhone but to everyone,specially my fellow ladies that have any questions or just want specific information about physical activity, PM me, I've been training in the gym ever since i was in middle school and I've kept going since I joined the volleyball AND cheerleading teams. I've also learned many tricks of the trade from proffessionals and random guys I've dated lol.Check out my youtube channel,I think i might put some videos there tosuggest fun things you can do to stay fit"YouTube.fom/frostmageowns. It wa


Haha, I entered your Youtube channel, and I read "I love nerds". That won my nerdheart.

When can we expect these videos :D?

I guess, should also add a warm Welcome to TL.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Kelorienne
Profile Joined July 2010
United States50 Posts
September 02 2010 18:15 GMT
#2269
I edited the message you quoted btw
Pls PM me if you want me to read something, I rarely check topics for replys
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
September 02 2010 18:37 GMT
#2270
Yeah, I know. you also have your youtube URL wrongly typed ;p.

Here's for everyone to clickety click > http://www.youtube.com/frostmageowns
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Kelorienne
Profile Joined July 2010
United States50 Posts
September 02 2010 20:15 GMT
#2271
Woops, I make alot of mistakes with my Iphone >.<
Pls PM me if you want me to read something, I rarely check topics for replys
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 03 2010 09:33 GMT
#2272
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ModernAgeShaman
Profile Joined January 2008
Norway484 Posts
September 03 2010 10:17 GMT
#2273
for starters, you can't spot reduce fat... as you lose fat it will disappear pretty evenly all over your body. so in order to lose fat from your stomach, you have to lose fat overall. if you want to lower your bodyfat, cardio and intensive weight workouts are a great way to start. another important factor of the equation is your diet. make sure all your carbohydrates are complex (ie, oats, wholegrain pastas/bread) and stay away from alcohol, alcohol is probably the worst thing you can do to your body if you want to lose fat. try to eat as many of your calories as possibly and stay away from liquid calories as much as you can (especially sodas and other sugar drinks, even fruit juices have the same amount of sugar as soda). as for a workout routine, perhaps your gym has personal trainers that can help you set up a training program, I'm sure they can help you out if you ask. just set up a routine where you go 2-3 times a week, clean up your diet and the results will come
Kelorienne
Profile Joined July 2010
United States50 Posts
September 03 2010 10:32 GMT
#2274
Well said, try to do loads of abs too, helps reduce fat and gets you a six pack
Pls PM me if you want me to read something, I rarely check topics for replys
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 03 2010 10:33 GMT
#2275
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ModernAgeShaman
Profile Joined January 2008
Norway484 Posts
September 03 2010 10:38 GMT
#2276
On September 03 2010 19:32 Kelorienne wrote:
Well said, try to do loads of abs too, helps reduce fat and gets you a six pack


doing ab workouts do nothing to reduce fat.

an overall intensive workout will put your body in a anabolic state post workout and burn fat, but otherwise it does not help at all.

doing situps will tone/build stomach muscles which will make your stomach look better though, regardless of the fat ontop of it which is what kelorienne is saying I believe
ModernAgeShaman
Profile Joined January 2008
Norway484 Posts
September 03 2010 10:44 GMT
#2277
ah ok. hm.. didn't know gyms would set up a program for you. i just have to ask them and they will make me a good program?

diet isn't too big of a problem for me, im not too attached to junk foods/ soda/ etc.

also, my friend is having a huge party at his house for his birthday. i guess i shouldn't drink? :/
or perhaps very limited amount


at least the gyms I've encountered in Norway will provide help should you require it, I should think they would do the same in other places - you just have to ask anyway, doesn't hurt.

well... the drinking.... not drinking makes you kind of a social misfit in many situations and it's up to you as an individual how you want to handle it now and in the future. I myself very seldom drink (there's very few alcoholic drinks I actually like) and especially in Norway where the drinking culture is pretty heavy, it gets you a few weird looks and statements like "you don't drink?!?!?!" from wide-eyed retards... but I pride myself on having a better body than any of them

if you do want to drink for whatever reasons, no one says you can't drink in moderation. you don't have to drink 5liters of beer and get totally smashed - but again, these choices are totally up to you
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
September 03 2010 16:37 GMT
#2278
ok so i think i messed up my back/spine. it hurts like a bitch whenever i pull my shoulders back and look down at the same time. the pain only became noticeable after the 2nd set for OHP when i went for a 5th rep and probably shouldn't have. i had the same problem in the past when i stopped training for over a month, but this is the first time i've had this problem after doing any exercise.

help?

@krndandaman: check out the OP for your training program. no need to ask your gym to give you one
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
fatduck
Profile Joined April 2010
United States148 Posts
September 03 2010 17:37 GMT
#2279
On September 04 2010 01:37 unknown.sam wrote:
ok so i think i messed up my back/spine. it hurts like a bitch whenever i pull my shoulders back and look down at the same time. the pain only became noticeable after the 2nd set for OHP when i went for a 5th rep and probably shouldn't have. i had the same problem in the past when i stopped training for over a month, but this is the first time i've had this problem after doing any exercise.

help?

@krndandaman: check out the OP for your training program. no need to ask your gym to give you one


Probably just a pulled muscle...I would try the basic remedies (gentle stretching, ice, rest) and see how it responds. If it doesn't seem to get any better then I would see a doctor.
good sir, you appear to be somewhat lacking in intelligence. please refrain from posting until this is remedied, since it renders your opinions slightly less than correct and has a tendency to irritate more informed forum-goers
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
September 03 2010 18:09 GMT
#2280
On September 04 2010 01:37 unknown.sam wrote:
ok so i think i messed up my back/spine. it hurts like a bitch whenever i pull my shoulders back and look down at the same time. the pain only became noticeable after the 2nd set for OHP when i went for a 5th rep and probably shouldn't have. i had the same problem in the past when i stopped training for over a month, but this is the first time i've had this problem after doing any exercise.

help?

i had/have the same problem

i think the problem was that i was leaning back too much during the press. also you should bend your knees a little bit during the press

it'll probably go away after time
if not see a doctor
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