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kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
August 31 2010 22:46 GMT
#2241
On August 31 2010 09:39 funkie wrote:
how the fuck do you squat so much?

I squat like..80lbs + bar weight or something. and I did 1. I almost died. had to go back to..like 70lbs?

you'll get there.

i remember when i thought 135 was a huge accomplishment.
on SS my friend is already squatting bodyweight in a month. i'm proud of the guy.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17735 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-31 23:16:34
August 31 2010 22:53 GMT
#2242
On September 01 2010 04:47 decafchicken wrote:
380 on each side. of a 100 pound bar. for reps ez

First day of rugby practice today, going to fucking RUN KIDS OVERRRR. sore as fuck from yesterday though T_T

eshlow what should i do for my back?

And funkie if you put on 70 pounds and squat for a year you could lift like that too I think i've added ~100 pounds to my max since last fall for squats and deads. Bench is going backwards do to fucking injuries T_T

Wait theres 100 pound bars? Just the bar alone wtf lol. I won't even be able to lift the bar.

Been having half gallon of milk yesterday and today. Will eventually turn to 1 gallon a day by end of week. Just slowly adding. Minor problem is literally the only milk I have access to is skim milk with 1%/2% fat reduced. When I get a chance since I don't drive yet/access to car will need to get whole milk in bulk. Planning on next workout tomorrow. Walking was a bit uncomfortable today, especially going up the stairs. Good feeling though :D.

Oh yeah I have one question though is about power cleans. From reading the starting strength wiki it seems it says not to try power cleans with a standard barbell. Does that mean I should do something else if I'm not sure if the barbells I'm using in my gym are Olympic/have spinning collars or does this only have to do with heavier weights? The same question with bumper plates too. And also the gym I'm only seem to have 5, 10, 25, 45 lbs plates. Isn't that big yet because I'll add about 10+ lbs each workout for a bit, but wondering what to do when I start stalling.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 00:09:46
September 01 2010 00:04 GMT
#2243
Been going to the gym everyday on weekdays since last week, felt great until I pulled by back today.

Now my body looks slanted when I stand straight up, something like this (my abs are visibly on a diagonal):

front view

[head]
| chest, neck, etc.
\ ab region, visibly slanted towards the side with pain
\
|
[lower body]


Is this normal... how long does it take for my back to recover...?
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
September 01 2010 00:49 GMT
#2244
On September 01 2010 07:53 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 04:47 decafchicken wrote:
380 on each side. of a 100 pound bar. for reps ez

First day of rugby practice today, going to fucking RUN KIDS OVERRRR. sore as fuck from yesterday though T_T

eshlow what should i do for my back?

And funkie if you put on 70 pounds and squat for a year you could lift like that too I think i've added ~100 pounds to my max since last fall for squats and deads. Bench is going backwards do to fucking injuries T_T

Wait theres 100 pound bars? Just the bar alone wtf lol. I won't even be able to lift the bar.

Been having half gallon of milk yesterday and today. Will eventually turn to 1 gallon a day by end of week. Just slowly adding. Minor problem is literally the only milk I have access to is skim milk with 1%/2% fat reduced. When I get a chance since I don't drive yet/access to car will need to get whole milk in bulk. Planning on next workout tomorrow. Walking was a bit uncomfortable today, especially going up the stairs. Good feeling though :D.

Oh yeah I have one question though is about power cleans. From reading the starting strength wiki it seems it says not to try power cleans with a standard barbell. Does that mean I should do something else if I'm not sure if the barbells I'm using in my gym are Olympic/have spinning collars or does this only have to do with heavier weights? The same question with bumper plates too. And also the gym I'm only seem to have 5, 10, 25, 45 lbs plates. Isn't that big yet because I'll add about 10+ lbs each workout for a bit, but wondering what to do when I start stalling.


YEAH WORKOUT BUDDY YOU CAN DO IT!

Been eating like a horse, drinking a gallon of milk and stuff, trying to eat healthy but a lot.

I feel happy, tomorrow is my second workout and I'm doing the Workout B one, A was hard, I thought it waas going to be fucking easy, but it tore my shit apart (the worksets+the warmup sets).

Everyone who wants to get in shape, should do, SS, it's fucking good how you feel the first day, it gives you this "i fucking did goood" feeling haha :D

GOGO day 2!
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
September 01 2010 00:50 GMT
#2245
Pulled my neck doing cleans today... jesus christ this shit hurts.
blahman3344
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2015 Posts
September 01 2010 00:52 GMT
#2246
couldn't work out that much during this summer. My prior lung problems kept getting in the way, so any time I tried to work out, it would kind of act up, forcing me to stop before i could really accomplish anything. =\

So yeah....I'm definitely not meeting my goal that I set >.<
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fatduck
Profile Joined April 2010
United States148 Posts
September 01 2010 01:10 GMT
#2247
On September 01 2010 09:49 funkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 07:53 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
On September 01 2010 04:47 decafchicken wrote:
380 on each side. of a 100 pound bar. for reps ez

First day of rugby practice today, going to fucking RUN KIDS OVERRRR. sore as fuck from yesterday though T_T

eshlow what should i do for my back?

And funkie if you put on 70 pounds and squat for a year you could lift like that too I think i've added ~100 pounds to my max since last fall for squats and deads. Bench is going backwards do to fucking injuries T_T

Wait theres 100 pound bars? Just the bar alone wtf lol. I won't even be able to lift the bar.

Been having half gallon of milk yesterday and today. Will eventually turn to 1 gallon a day by end of week. Just slowly adding. Minor problem is literally the only milk I have access to is skim milk with 1%/2% fat reduced. When I get a chance since I don't drive yet/access to car will need to get whole milk in bulk. Planning on next workout tomorrow. Walking was a bit uncomfortable today, especially going up the stairs. Good feeling though :D.

Oh yeah I have one question though is about power cleans. From reading the starting strength wiki it seems it says not to try power cleans with a standard barbell. Does that mean I should do something else if I'm not sure if the barbells I'm using in my gym are Olympic/have spinning collars or does this only have to do with heavier weights? The same question with bumper plates too. And also the gym I'm only seem to have 5, 10, 25, 45 lbs plates. Isn't that big yet because I'll add about 10+ lbs each workout for a bit, but wondering what to do when I start stalling.


YEAH WORKOUT BUDDY YOU CAN DO IT!

Been eating like a horse, drinking a gallon of milk and stuff, trying to eat healthy but a lot.

I feel happy, tomorrow is my second workout and I'm doing the Workout B one, A was hard, I thought it waas going to be fucking easy, but it tore my shit apart (the worksets+the warmup sets).

Everyone who wants to get in shape, should do, SS, it's fucking good how you feel the first day, it gives you this "i fucking did goood" feeling haha :D

GOGO day 2!


Nice I have my second day tomorrow too :D I'm pretty excited - I think that's the biggest thing, going to the gym has to be something you want to do, not a chore.

I'm posting my "before" pic so in a year I can laugh at what a scrawny weakling I was ^^

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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
September 01 2010 01:13 GMT
#2248
On September 01 2010 09:04 Cambium wrote:
Been going to the gym everyday on weekdays since last week, felt great until I pulled by back today.

Now my body looks slanted when I stand straight up, something like this (my abs are visibly on a diagonal):

front view

[head]
| chest, neck, etc.
\ ab region, visibly slanted towards the side with pain
\
|
[lower body]


Is this normal... how long does it take for my back to recover...?


Maybe slipped an SI joint. See a physical therapist or chiro right away... should be able to pop you back into place
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20159 Posts
September 01 2010 01:55 GMT
#2249
On September 01 2010 06:38 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 04:47 decafchicken wrote:
380 on each side. of a 100 pound bar. for reps ez

First day of rugby practice today, going to fucking RUN KIDS OVERRRR. sore as fuck from yesterday though T_T

eshlow what should i do for my back?

And funkie if you put on 70 pounds and squat for a year you could lift like that too I think i've added ~100 pounds to my max since last fall for squats and deads. Bench is going backwards do to fucking injuries T_T


Mobility and no lifting


What about upper body? Any supplements? What can i do to maintain my leg and back strength? And by mobility you mean back stretches? Sorry for all the questions T_T love you eshlow!
btw still have to keep up with the rugby, hope that doesnt fuck me up too bad
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
September 01 2010 02:20 GMT
#2250
On September 01 2010 10:13 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 09:04 Cambium wrote:
Been going to the gym everyday on weekdays since last week, felt great until I pulled by back today.

Now my body looks slanted when I stand straight up, something like this (my abs are visibly on a diagonal):

front view

[head]
| chest, neck, etc.
\ ab region, visibly slanted towards the side with pain
\
|
[lower body]


Is this normal... how long does it take for my back to recover...?


Maybe slipped an SI joint. See a physical therapist or chiro right away... should be able to pop you back into place


=(

I guess I'll try to see one tomorrow, hopefully, nothing major.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Gryffindor_us
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States5606 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 13:26:23
September 01 2010 06:59 GMT
#2251
Well, I had intended to start purchasing my own home equipment and train in my families garage but I realized I don't have $700ish to get a power rack, flat bench, and quality olympic barbell set at the moment. So, I'm signing up at Hyde Park Gym which has its own chalk! It's an old dungeon gym which sounds excellent. I've picked up a lot of gym etiquette from this thread but is there anything off the radar I should be aware of before I step in on Monday? Complete newb here. :X

Or rather, is there any gym etiquette that general politeness would sidestep?
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funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
September 01 2010 13:35 GMT
#2252
On September 01 2010 15:59 Gryffindor_us wrote:
Well, I had intended to start purchasing my own home equipment and train in my families garage but I realized I don't have $700ish to get a power rack, flat bench, and quality olympic barbell set at the moment. So, I'm signing up at Hyde Park Gym which has its own chalk! It's an old dungeon gym which sounds excellent. I've picked up a lot of gym etiquette from this thread but is there anything off the radar I should be aware of before I step in on Monday? Complete newb here. :X

Or rather, is there any gym etiquette that general politeness would sidestep?


Generally, people are already using the tools you need to, so it's better to ask for "permission" to like use it together and shit.

Other than that, you will make friends pretty quick, since you will want help to control your form and technique, and well, most of the time, people in the gym are willing to help.

good luck, being on a gym rules.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
September 01 2010 18:34 GMT
#2253
On September 01 2010 10:55 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 06:38 eshlow wrote:
On September 01 2010 04:47 decafchicken wrote:
380 on each side. of a 100 pound bar. for reps ez

First day of rugby practice today, going to fucking RUN KIDS OVERRRR. sore as fuck from yesterday though T_T

eshlow what should i do for my back?

And funkie if you put on 70 pounds and squat for a year you could lift like that too I think i've added ~100 pounds to my max since last fall for squats and deads. Bench is going backwards do to fucking injuries T_T


Mobility and no lifting


What about upper body? Any supplements? What can i do to maintain my leg and back strength? And by mobility you mean back stretches? Sorry for all the questions T_T love you eshlow!
btw still have to keep up with the rugby, hope that doesnt fuck me up too bad


I mean it depends what hurts it. If lifting is aggravating it then no go.

If your upper body or other lower body stuff doesn't aggravate it then go for those.

Umm, as for back mobility there's some stuff that's good frmo here:
http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2010/02/so-you-hurt-your-lower-back/

If you need other stuff then let me know
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
September 01 2010 18:38 GMT
#2254
Most important rule in the gym. PUT AWAY YOUR WEIGHTS. I hate when people think its their place and leave weights all over the place.
Always ask for advice if you are confused or need someone to check your form. Its better to do it right the first time and not pick up bad habits.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 18:49:44
September 01 2010 18:45 GMT
#2255
so since the reason I started working out was to eventually get into parkour, I've started step 2 of my plan

Gymnastics

went monday for the first time and it was absolutely sick. learned how to do a backhand spring and standing back tuck in like 30 minutes and the workout after was awesome. really excited that everything's kind of coming together

On September 01 2010 07:53 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 04:47 decafchicken wrote:
380 on each side. of a 100 pound bar. for reps ez

First day of rugby practice today, going to fucking RUN KIDS OVERRRR. sore as fuck from yesterday though T_T

eshlow what should i do for my back?

And funkie if you put on 70 pounds and squat for a year you could lift like that too I think i've added ~100 pounds to my max since last fall for squats and deads. Bench is going backwards do to fucking injuries T_T

Wait theres 100 pound bars? Just the bar alone wtf lol. I won't even be able to lift the bar.

Been having half gallon of milk yesterday and today. Will eventually turn to 1 gallon a day by end of week. Just slowly adding. Minor problem is literally the only milk I have access to is skim milk with 1%/2% fat reduced. When I get a chance since I don't drive yet/access to car will need to get whole milk in bulk. Planning on next workout tomorrow. Walking was a bit uncomfortable today, especially going up the stairs. Good feeling though :D.

Oh yeah I have one question though is about power cleans. From reading the starting strength wiki it seems it says not to try power cleans with a standard barbell. Does that mean I should do something else if I'm not sure if the barbells I'm using in my gym are Olympic/have spinning collars or does this only have to do with heavier weights? The same question with bumper plates too. And also the gym I'm only seem to have 5, 10, 25, 45 lbs plates. Isn't that big yet because I'll add about 10+ lbs each workout for a bit, but wondering what to do when I start stalling.


im so proud of you hi5 \o

as far as power clean goes its really okay to use a regular bar at the lower weights. I haven't had any trouble with it so far. the problem is plates, cuz as you get higher up the weight gets really fucking heavy and when you drop the weight at the end of every single rep you have to hold onto the bar (if its regular plates) which is thrashing my shoulder and elbows. so if your gym has bumper plates, use em on power clean for sure.

also DONT add 10 pounds to each workout, just add 5 to each one otherwise you'll stall really fast.

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Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 21:53:02
September 01 2010 21:51 GMT
#2256
i was doing strict hanging leg lifts for quite a while during my wrist healing times (since no manna work), but recently i started doing russian leg lifts

im sure my front lever form on the comedown is pretty atrocious, but I really think i don't do em too badly and my core sure feels nice when im done

i generally throw on 2 sets of 3 at the end of 2 of my workouts per week

my wrist is pretty much back to normal, im back to doing full time planche work (started it up again this week)

i think ill add in manna work again next week

im doing my planche work hands to the side instead of the front now, too. balance is definitely harder that way, though.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17735 Posts
September 01 2010 21:58 GMT
#2257
On September 02 2010 03:45 mOnion wrote:
so since the reason I started working out was to eventually get into parkour, I've started step 2 of my plan

Gymnastics

went monday for the first time and it was absolutely sick. learned how to do a backhand spring and standing back tuck in like 30 minutes and the workout after was awesome. really excited that everything's kind of coming together

Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 07:53 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
On September 01 2010 04:47 decafchicken wrote:
380 on each side. of a 100 pound bar. for reps ez

First day of rugby practice today, going to fucking RUN KIDS OVERRRR. sore as fuck from yesterday though T_T

eshlow what should i do for my back?

And funkie if you put on 70 pounds and squat for a year you could lift like that too I think i've added ~100 pounds to my max since last fall for squats and deads. Bench is going backwards do to fucking injuries T_T

Wait theres 100 pound bars? Just the bar alone wtf lol. I won't even be able to lift the bar.

Been having half gallon of milk yesterday and today. Will eventually turn to 1 gallon a day by end of week. Just slowly adding. Minor problem is literally the only milk I have access to is skim milk with 1%/2% fat reduced. When I get a chance since I don't drive yet/access to car will need to get whole milk in bulk. Planning on next workout tomorrow. Walking was a bit uncomfortable today, especially going up the stairs. Good feeling though :D.

Oh yeah I have one question though is about power cleans. From reading the starting strength wiki it seems it says not to try power cleans with a standard barbell. Does that mean I should do something else if I'm not sure if the barbells I'm using in my gym are Olympic/have spinning collars or does this only have to do with heavier weights? The same question with bumper plates too. And also the gym I'm only seem to have 5, 10, 25, 45 lbs plates. Isn't that big yet because I'll add about 10+ lbs each workout for a bit, but wondering what to do when I start stalling.


im so proud of you hi5 \o

as far as power clean goes its really okay to use a regular bar at the lower weights. I haven't had any trouble with it so far. the problem is plates, cuz as you get higher up the weight gets really fucking heavy and when you drop the weight at the end of every single rep you have to hold onto the bar (if its regular plates) which is thrashing my shoulder and elbows. so if your gym has bumper plates, use em on power clean for sure.

also DONT add 10 pounds to each workout, just add 5 to each one otherwise you'll stall really fast.


<3
After looking around today found that there are some 2.5 lb plates. Gym doesn't have bumper plates so I guess I'll learn to do it/form with lighter weights until I can't without dropping it.

Also press is mad hard. God I barely finished with the bar alone 3x5.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11081 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 23:16:59
September 01 2010 23:16 GMT
#2258
Reposting a new set of goals for this semester. Amazing how much you can lose if you take a prolonged break t.t. Was out of gym for 3 weeks plus ate poorly and consequently have had to drop a non-trivial amount of weight in all of my lifts t.t. Still very happy with the speed of progress I had and for the new semester. Finally got some fish oil and some whey.

Tom/ Sabu113
Age: 20 || Height: 5'7" || Weight: 135.3 lbs
Starting Date: 09/01/10 || Goal Date: 12/01/10
Weight goals -- 140lbs * Lower bodyfat % is a bigger priority
Training goals -- Primarily gain muscle. Secondary goal is general fitness. Keep to the schedule.
Squat: 180lbs [pr 140] Press: 100lbs [pr 85] Deadlift: 210lbs [175]
Bench: 150 lbs [pr 115] Powerclean: 90lbs [pr 65]
6 Minute mile * I enjoy some cardio. More concern for endurance than HIIT atm.
Nutrition goals -- Bigger breakfast. Drink/Desert 1x a week. Drink more water
Misc goals -- Keep to a schedule. Follow supplemental Ab routine. Do well in Fiscal policy class.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
September 02 2010 00:38 GMT
#2259
On September 02 2010 06:58 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 03:45 mOnion wrote:
so since the reason I started working out was to eventually get into parkour, I've started step 2 of my plan

Gymnastics

went monday for the first time and it was absolutely sick. learned how to do a backhand spring and standing back tuck in like 30 minutes and the workout after was awesome. really excited that everything's kind of coming together

On September 01 2010 07:53 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
On September 01 2010 04:47 decafchicken wrote:
380 on each side. of a 100 pound bar. for reps ez

First day of rugby practice today, going to fucking RUN KIDS OVERRRR. sore as fuck from yesterday though T_T

eshlow what should i do for my back?

And funkie if you put on 70 pounds and squat for a year you could lift like that too I think i've added ~100 pounds to my max since last fall for squats and deads. Bench is going backwards do to fucking injuries T_T

Wait theres 100 pound bars? Just the bar alone wtf lol. I won't even be able to lift the bar.

Been having half gallon of milk yesterday and today. Will eventually turn to 1 gallon a day by end of week. Just slowly adding. Minor problem is literally the only milk I have access to is skim milk with 1%/2% fat reduced. When I get a chance since I don't drive yet/access to car will need to get whole milk in bulk. Planning on next workout tomorrow. Walking was a bit uncomfortable today, especially going up the stairs. Good feeling though :D.

Oh yeah I have one question though is about power cleans. From reading the starting strength wiki it seems it says not to try power cleans with a standard barbell. Does that mean I should do something else if I'm not sure if the barbells I'm using in my gym are Olympic/have spinning collars or does this only have to do with heavier weights? The same question with bumper plates too. And also the gym I'm only seem to have 5, 10, 25, 45 lbs plates. Isn't that big yet because I'll add about 10+ lbs each workout for a bit, but wondering what to do when I start stalling.


im so proud of you hi5 \o

as far as power clean goes its really okay to use a regular bar at the lower weights. I haven't had any trouble with it so far. the problem is plates, cuz as you get higher up the weight gets really fucking heavy and when you drop the weight at the end of every single rep you have to hold onto the bar (if its regular plates) which is thrashing my shoulder and elbows. so if your gym has bumper plates, use em on power clean for sure.

also DONT add 10 pounds to each workout, just add 5 to each one otherwise you'll stall really fast.


<3
After looking around today found that there are some 2.5 lb plates. Gym doesn't have bumper plates so I guess I'll learn to do it/form with lighter weights until I can't without dropping it.

Also press is mad hard. God I barely finished with the bar alone 3x5.


Haha I thought power cleans were harder, much harder.

I did my second day of SS today.

Squats, Power Clean and Press.

Holy shit, my last set of press I was about to fucking die, and I performed well in Squats, I feel as my form is getting better and better, and well, Watching Rippetoe's video in Squat, Power Clean, and Press were fucking helpful.

Been drinking milk like a nutzo, eating lots and lots. Happy as it gets.

go workout buddy!, add 10lbs to that bar, and rape some shit UP! :D
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Do power cleans regardless. The weight is very easy to lower slowly in the clean, only when you start jerking and snatching do you "need" bumpers and olympic bars, and possibly not even then until you're making max attempts. It's an incredibly natural movement really and it'll help drive your deadlift up and it's the only explosive lift in the program which will round out your development and make you a better athlete and a fitter human being. You can also start from a low hang or from safety bars in the rack if you're worried about the bar being the right height until you're up to 135.
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