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beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
February 25 2014 13:54 GMT
#19281
On February 25 2014 04:45 zezamer wrote:
our team build 3 mekas

so much this. no mek for 5 games. then 3 meks in one game. aseaeasfgawea
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
February 25 2014 14:00 GMT
#19282
not sure why valve isnt getting more hate for doing it riot style, releasing arcana and making terrorblade incredibly op
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TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-25 14:26:59
February 25 2014 14:26 GMT
#19283
On February 25 2014 23:00 teddyoojo wrote:
not sure why valve isnt getting more hate for doing it riot style, releasing arcana and making terrorblade incredibly op



I sarted playing 7 years ago. Terrorblade already existed. It's last iteration is more than a year old.


And there isn't much proof supporting TB OPness. His pub win rate is bad and the current pro tends are not really in TB old style of ultra farm.

Also, you don't have to buy TB, you can ban TB, and arcanas are just cosmetics, and good cosmetics.


In Icefrog we trust.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
February 25 2014 14:30 GMT
#19284
Sometimes your carries are just a little too straight to care about winning the game. Apparently BKB against Shadow Shaman, Warlock, Magnus and Luna is "just for gay people" as they explained to me.
Haaaaaaaaaaah....
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idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
February 25 2014 15:08 GMT
#19285
On February 25 2014 23:26 TMG26 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2014 23:00 teddyoojo wrote:
not sure why valve isnt getting more hate for doing it riot style, releasing arcana and making terrorblade incredibly op



I sarted playing 7 years ago. Terrorblade already existed. It's last iteration is more than a year old.


And there isn't much proof supporting TB OPness. His pub win rate is bad and the current pro tends are not really in TB old style of ultra farm.

Also, you don't have to buy TB, you can ban TB, and arcanas are just cosmetics, and good cosmetics.


In Icefrog we trust.


he has 52.5% this week, that is a really good pubwinrate in my book. If he had a bad winrate at the very start that is becaue a lot of players tried the hero for the first time. But pubwinrates don't really tell much about how strong a hero is anyways. Played him 6 times, won 5 times the game i lost was because someone started griefing and feeding couriers and shit. He is really powerful, i had a lot of games where the whole enemy team tried to kill me but couldn't because the hero has a million armor and after bkb he is basically invincible.
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
February 25 2014 15:41 GMT
#19286
On February 25 2014 22:27 MotherOfRunes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2014 09:29 Laserist wrote:
non-solo queue should be banned from ranked. It is so annoying to have to carry the 1 MMR deficit guy because he is a friend of another guy. Then he feeds intentionally and team doesn't care to report him.

how about u start to make some friends u can play with rather than creating your 100th qq post about solo queue/play with vs bad/good stacks


Stop being dick, ok?

I have many friends and I queue unranked when playing with them. I don't want to ruin someones game experience by introducing MMR disparity in a team. Because I know my friend will either feed or ruin a serious game.

There is no point to play ranked(except same 5 man) since every friend you play with probably in different skill levels so eventually you either play with better or worse players than you. Also this is QQ thread and my biggest QQ is 2-3-4 man ranked queue. Player shouldn't tell their friends how to play their heroes, what to skill @ 4K+ MMR.

Last game a duo stack player teach other how to play lich from voice chat like "you should eat creeps" and "don't auto attack", not surprisingly they give first blood to a solo hard lane nyx. So I learned how to lose 2v1 with a lich in safe lane.
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Spyisaspy
Profile Joined August 2013
United States183 Posts
February 25 2014 15:44 GMT
#19287
On February 24 2014 23:30 Velr wrote:
Why would you get a Shadowblade on Bloodseekr? O_o

BS „problems“ are that he can’t cancel TP’s and has Problems killing someone fast considering he is a ganker? Shadowblade is not helping him to solve either of those.

it's funny how 2 days ago, I went against a bloodseeker who opted to get shadow blade and we had like slardar on our team so we kept on killing him(althought he did get a shit load of kills, went 22-20 by the end of the game) and kept calling us retards. oh also please note he bought a radiance and always kept it on while invis so it made it much more easier to tell that he's near by and dust him. Game is hard
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
February 25 2014 16:12 GMT
#19288
On February 26 2014 00:44 Spyisaspy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 23:30 Velr wrote:
Why would you get a Shadowblade on Bloodseekr? O_o

BS „problems“ are that he can’t cancel TP’s and has Problems killing someone fast considering he is a ganker? Shadowblade is not helping him to solve either of those.

it's funny how 2 days ago, I went against a bloodseeker who opted to get shadow blade and we had like slardar on our team so we kept on killing him(althought he did get a shit load of kills, went 22-20 by the end of the game) and kept calling us retards. oh also please note he bought a radiance and always kept it on while invis so it made it much more easier to tell that he's near by and dust him. Game is hard


In all seriousness where the HELL does this Bloodseeker Radiance thing come from? I've seen it on enough Bloodseekers that it qualifies as a "style" and I've never seen it do anything to help.

I don't think its just a Volvo Guide issue either because if it was someone mindlessly going for that then I'd expect the S&Y first because that's listed before Radiance and I've seen a number skip that for a faster Radiance (unless its "wow, extra damage!" I guess). Honestly, where does that whole thing come from? How is it supposed to help in any way? He's not an illusion hero to abuse the aura (like PL and Naga). He's not a traditional invis hero (so its not like trollbuild Treant or Riki just following the other team about with a Radiance on). He's not Lone Druid (dat Radiance Bear). And he's not a hero who really benefits from just farming with it (like Spectre or Doom or Alchemist I guess).

So just...WHY?
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Attorney
Profile Joined January 2014
United States20 Posts
February 25 2014 16:49 GMT
#19289
On February 26 2014 01:12 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 00:44 Spyisaspy wrote:
On February 24 2014 23:30 Velr wrote:
Why would you get a Shadowblade on Bloodseekr? O_o

BS „problems“ are that he can’t cancel TP’s and has Problems killing someone fast considering he is a ganker? Shadowblade is not helping him to solve either of those.

it's funny how 2 days ago, I went against a bloodseeker who opted to get shadow blade and we had like slardar on our team so we kept on killing him(althought he did get a shit load of kills, went 22-20 by the end of the game) and kept calling us retards. oh also please note he bought a radiance and always kept it on while invis so it made it much more easier to tell that he's near by and dust him. Game is hard


In all seriousness where the HELL does this Bloodseeker Radiance thing come from? I've seen it on enough Bloodseekers that it qualifies as a "style" and I've never seen it do anything to help.

I don't think its just a Volvo Guide issue either because if it was someone mindlessly going for that then I'd expect the S&Y first because that's listed before Radiance and I've seen a number skip that for a faster Radiance (unless its "wow, extra damage!" I guess). Honestly, where does that whole thing come from? How is it supposed to help in any way? He's not an illusion hero to abuse the aura (like PL and Naga). He's not a traditional invis hero (so its not like trollbuild Treant or Riki just following the other team about with a Radiance on). He's not Lone Druid (dat Radiance Bear). And he's not a hero who really benefits from just farming with it (like Spectre or Doom or Alchemist I guess).

So just...WHY?

The math behind it is that while they're ruptured they stand still but with radiance it forces tuem to run because they're at risk of oh gett ng hit while burn damage is comming their way. But a skill basher would still be better than it.
I wasn't even soposed to be here today.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 25 2014 16:50 GMT
#19290
Radiance halps u farm and it kills creeps randomly in fights and shit for free hp.

Its pretty bad but also kinda fun
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1nobody
Profile Joined May 2013
Czech Republic2040 Posts
February 25 2014 17:03 GMT
#19291
Support Faceless void, then only support hero venomancer goes skadi instead of supporting, aaand slardar that is against OD and flaming bird goes blink treads into battlefury... great games...
BoesFX
Profile Joined April 2013
1465 Posts
February 25 2014 17:34 GMT
#19292
On February 26 2014 01:12 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 00:44 Spyisaspy wrote:
On February 24 2014 23:30 Velr wrote:
Why would you get a Shadowblade on Bloodseekr? O_o

BS „problems“ are that he can’t cancel TP’s and has Problems killing someone fast considering he is a ganker? Shadowblade is not helping him to solve either of those.

it's funny how 2 days ago, I went against a bloodseeker who opted to get shadow blade and we had like slardar on our team so we kept on killing him(althought he did get a shit load of kills, went 22-20 by the end of the game) and kept calling us retards. oh also please note he bought a radiance and always kept it on while invis so it made it much more easier to tell that he's near by and dust him. Game is hard


In all seriousness where the HELL does this Bloodseeker Radiance thing come from? I've seen it on enough Bloodseekers that it qualifies as a "style" and I've never seen it do anything to help.

I don't think its just a Volvo Guide issue either because if it was someone mindlessly going for that then I'd expect the S&Y first because that's listed before Radiance and I've seen a number skip that for a faster Radiance (unless its "wow, extra damage!" I guess). Honestly, where does that whole thing come from? How is it supposed to help in any way? He's not an illusion hero to abuse the aura (like PL and Naga). He's not a traditional invis hero (so its not like trollbuild Treant or Riki just following the other team about with a Radiance on). He's not Lone Druid (dat Radiance Bear). And he's not a hero who really benefits from just farming with it (like Spectre or Doom or Alchemist I guess).

So just...WHY?


It was a very old build of Bloodseeker back in dota 1.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
February 25 2014 21:41 GMT
#19293
Shadow Shaman and Pudge didn't feel like pushing even though no one on the other team had a TP or could defend the T3, they had an infinitely better lategame, we lost because we didn't barge into their base early on and asserted dominance

I'm sad
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3267 Posts
February 25 2014 23:18 GMT
#19294
On February 26 2014 01:12 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 00:44 Spyisaspy wrote:
On February 24 2014 23:30 Velr wrote:
Why would you get a Shadowblade on Bloodseekr? O_o

BS „problems“ are that he can’t cancel TP’s and has Problems killing someone fast considering he is a ganker? Shadowblade is not helping him to solve either of those.

it's funny how 2 days ago, I went against a bloodseeker who opted to get shadow blade and we had like slardar on our team so we kept on killing him(althought he did get a shit load of kills, went 22-20 by the end of the game) and kept calling us retards. oh also please note he bought a radiance and always kept it on while invis so it made it much more easier to tell that he's near by and dust him. Game is hard


In all seriousness where the HELL does this Bloodseeker Radiance thing come from? I've seen it on enough Bloodseekers that it qualifies as a "style" and I've never seen it do anything to help.

I don't think its just a Volvo Guide issue either because if it was someone mindlessly going for that then I'd expect the S&Y first because that's listed before Radiance and I've seen a number skip that for a faster Radiance (unless its "wow, extra damage!" I guess). Honestly, where does that whole thing come from? How is it supposed to help in any way? He's not an illusion hero to abuse the aura (like PL and Naga). He's not a traditional invis hero (so its not like trollbuild Treant or Riki just following the other team about with a Radiance on). He's not Lone Druid (dat Radiance Bear). And he's not a hero who really benefits from just farming with it (like Spectre or Doom or Alchemist I guess).

So just...WHY?


I think it's similar to weaver, he does a mixture of farming and hunting and following enemies for more than 3 secs with radiance on is a lot of damage, while it also boosts your farming speed tremendously. I think it's to overpriced to be effective on him, but bs doesnt really make a good hard carry nor do you really want support items. Essentially he is a bit like sb or nightstalker with his fast movement over the map, but he lacks the ability to manmode everything based on his skillset alone and cant just go for armlet to fix that.
So what is recommended anyways? Yasha->bkb->basher? yasha->bkb->deso? no yasha at all? skadi like on slark?
low gravity, yes-yes!
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
February 25 2014 23:44 GMT
#19295
On February 25 2014 00:51 Velr wrote:
If you like it on BS... You should try it on Mid-Tiny (because Dagger->Combo requires too much apm ).

For BS... I just think there are TONS of better options for him than Shadowblade which solves absolutely none of his problems and if your "snowball" gets stopped its pretty much useless?

If you snowball enough to have really strong solo kill potential, shadow blade puts tremendous pressure on the other team and severely limits the freedom they have to farm on the map
Dodge arrows
TheMute
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States458 Posts
February 26 2014 00:19 GMT
#19296
On February 26 2014 01:12 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 00:44 Spyisaspy wrote:
On February 24 2014 23:30 Velr wrote:
Why would you get a Shadowblade on Bloodseekr? O_o

BS „problems“ are that he can’t cancel TP’s and has Problems killing someone fast considering he is a ganker? Shadowblade is not helping him to solve either of those.

it's funny how 2 days ago, I went against a bloodseeker who opted to get shadow blade and we had like slardar on our team so we kept on killing him(althought he did get a shit load of kills, went 22-20 by the end of the game) and kept calling us retards. oh also please note he bought a radiance and always kept it on while invis so it made it much more easier to tell that he's near by and dust him. Game is hard


In all seriousness where the HELL does this Bloodseeker Radiance thing come from? I've seen it on enough Bloodseekers that it qualifies as a "style" and I've never seen it do anything to help.

I don't think its just a Volvo Guide issue either because if it was someone mindlessly going for that then I'd expect the S&Y first because that's listed before Radiance and I've seen a number skip that for a faster Radiance (unless its "wow, extra damage!" I guess). Honestly, where does that whole thing come from? How is it supposed to help in any way? He's not an illusion hero to abuse the aura (like PL and Naga). He's not a traditional invis hero (so its not like trollbuild Treant or Riki just following the other team about with a Radiance on). He's not Lone Druid (dat Radiance Bear). And he's not a hero who really benefits from just farming with it (like Spectre or Doom or Alchemist I guess).

So just...WHY?

It's a pretty old school build, and based on the fact that theoretically it synergizes with your ulti very well. Very situational and only get it if you're snowballing and you can get it before 20, preferably 15 min otherwise it's not really worth it.
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Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
February 26 2014 01:31 GMT
#19297
steam down after update? classic
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
February 26 2014 01:41 GMT
#19298
I'm not even mad at this point, my MMRs been at around 3.5k for a while now but the games are downright clowny. It's like bonze league all over again.

After no courier, huskar dies 4 times to SF in mid without saying anything until it's too late (I had a lina top but she wanted to babysit). Huskar then after avoiding the courier in base 2 times, picks it up but does not use it. Anytime someone tries to tell him he spam pings and >Well Played!

Meanwhile the lastpick puck is getting wrekd in offlane (Shaman ursa, mind you), but no one wants to do anything. I'm on a fast track to a pre-13 minute battlefury in uncontested lane (which lina vigilantly watched over) when suddenly the 10 minute shadowblade SF ults me in the face. Apparently an early point of shield (I was on AM, no idea why I thought a ricer was a good idea for a carry) wasn't enough. Still pick it up around 13 minutes while husk (Still carrying courier) has dies over 10 times. Bought my own courier+flying and proceeded to ward jungle. At that point I guess everyone assumed that the game was lost because it was another 15 minutes of goofing off.

Wut
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
February 26 2014 02:33 GMT
#19299
just played a game with this asshole void in ability pick, he picked rearm and rocket flare, spent the whole game spamming rocket flare whilst standing in the fountain....

oh wait that was me ahaahahahahaha
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saltywet
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hong Kong1316 Posts
February 26 2014 03:57 GMT
#19300
On February 26 2014 01:12 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 00:44 Spyisaspy wrote:
On February 24 2014 23:30 Velr wrote:
Why would you get a Shadowblade on Bloodseekr? O_o

BS „problems“ are that he can’t cancel TP’s and has Problems killing someone fast considering he is a ganker? Shadowblade is not helping him to solve either of those.

it's funny how 2 days ago, I went against a bloodseeker who opted to get shadow blade and we had like slardar on our team so we kept on killing him(althought he did get a shit load of kills, went 22-20 by the end of the game) and kept calling us retards. oh also please note he bought a radiance and always kept it on while invis so it made it much more easier to tell that he's near by and dust him. Game is hard


In all seriousness where the HELL does this Bloodseeker Radiance thing come from? I've seen it on enough Bloodseekers that it qualifies as a "style" and I've never seen it do anything to help.

I don't think its just a Volvo Guide issue either because if it was someone mindlessly going for that then I'd expect the S&Y first because that's listed before Radiance and I've seen a number skip that for a faster Radiance (unless its "wow, extra damage!" I guess). Honestly, where does that whole thing come from? How is it supposed to help in any way? He's not an illusion hero to abuse the aura (like PL and Naga). He's not a traditional invis hero (so its not like trollbuild Treant or Riki just following the other team about with a Radiance on). He's not Lone Druid (dat Radiance Bear). And he's not a hero who really benefits from just farming with it (like Spectre or Doom or Alchemist I guess).

So just...WHY?


It synergizes with bloodbath, basically he can get healed while having fights in middle of creeps
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