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evilfatsh1t
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On August 20 2014 14:05 tehh4ck3r wrote: For PA I would probably have MKB rather than Halberd in extension items And for WK it would probably be best to have 2 separate guides, one for support and one for carry. Also, in the storm spirit guide, i would hold off on that last point in electric vortex at level 10 and instead take remnant at 10/12/13 and take the last point in vortex at 14 And, I would add blink dagger to situational items on timbersaw. I'll do that for PA. I was on the fence about WK support and felt it didn't really warrant it. Support WK is really out there and while it does have some merit, it's difficult for your team to grasp on his alternative role as a support and change their expectancies of how you engage and such. In short, I could see support WK work out but its confronted in too many ways for it to be demanded when the WK guide I currently have is versatile as is (check situational items). | ||
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On August 20 2014 20:42 evilfatsh1t wrote: yay a skill build for kunk that doesnt require noobs to try to be good and fail at it nvm i cant see it anymore Cloud Servers blow. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
New Skill Build: W Q W Q W R W Q E E R E Q R (1. Tidebringer 2. Torrent 3. X Marks the Spot). I found, as Yango said, that the 11 Mark is truly a hump. So while Tidebringer is incredible at mid where I completely outclass my foes, I found that landing ults and ganks was a hit and miss. With some teams, it was incredibly easy without X and with some, impossible. Granted I am absolutely awful with Kunkka as a whole, he is among my least played heroes (top 5). Ultimately, winning my lane with Tidebringer made the rest of the game a lot easier than getting easy around 6-7. We'll see how this build goes and work from there. Added new Slot: The Titanic's Best Friend Added Divine Rapier to The Titanic's Best Friend (Mid/Lane) Don't forget to rate new guides up as they are not automatically put in the database Phantom Assassin Moved Heaven's Halberd to Situational Items Added Monkey King Bar to Situational Items | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8916 Posts
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
On August 20 2014 20:51 evilfatsh1t wrote: getting 2 lvls of x before lvl 3 torrent is probably better in most cases. at that stage the laning phase is over and you want to be able to land your torrents faster, even if its just for the short disable. earlier lvls in x will be more beneficial than a bit more damage in torrent 2 levels of torrent + 2 levels of xmark combination damage is too expensive for given mana imo. | ||
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govie
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- The manacost of Q will remain 100 no matter what lvl & the sleepincrease could be more gamebreaking then skilling the aura during the early game. - Earthsplitter is a nice initiation when a midhero comes to gank because 1) it clears all the trees 2) slows for atleast 3 seconds 3) 35% maxHP damage iirc. - Items are debateable/situational i guess, but in general i like manaboots+mek/BM more then core TQ+SR+FS and its cheaper. And the ssjaman mid guide feels more like a supportguide. A mid gets alot of solo xp/gold, i would maybe opt for some higher tier items earlier (aghs/rfo/bot combo could/should be core on a ss mid). | ||
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On August 20 2014 20:59 Laserist wrote: 2 levels of torrent + 2 levels of xmark combination damage is too expensive for given mana imo. I think its expensive regardless. At level 10, with 3 levels of torrent and 2X + ult, you get 93 mana left out of 442 | ||
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
On August 20 2014 21:06 Torte de Lini wrote: I think its expensive regardless. At level 10, with 3 levels of torrent and 2X + ult, you get 93 mana left out of 442 But you can near one shot supports + I bought early mana for kunkka regardless. | ||
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On August 20 2014 21:10 Laserist wrote: But you can near one shot supports + I bought early mana for kunkka regardless. This was with Wand + Bottle. I think it's situational both builds. I'm keeping what's posted nonetheless. | ||
BluemoonSC
SoCal8933 Posts
On August 20 2014 21:12 Torte de Lini wrote: This was with Wand + Bottle. I think it's situational both builds. I'm keeping what's posted nonetheless. maybe it would be worth making a note in the guide that it is possible to get your combo off easier with an early 2 levels in x before maxing torrent? as with every hero, this build is entirely situational depending on how aware your enemies are. some people are absolutely amazing at paying attention for the torrent animation and predicting where you would predict their movements would be. ..or they are just meta-juking you by being completely braindead XD but, one of the comments is that it was mana expensive. that's why you see kunkka players such as !Attacker getting battlefury as his first major item. that mana regen means that with a bottle, you're not mana starved after a fight. plus, its good for farming. again, the build is entirely situational and helpful if you're having trouble hitting torrents. | ||
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idonthinksobro
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
On August 20 2014 22:24 Torte de Lini wrote: Oh yes, Battlefury, I like that too. Maybe I should add it as core or situational? Make it situational, BF is never considered as core on Kunkka. | ||
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BluemoonSC
SoCal8933 Posts
On August 20 2014 23:00 idonthinksobro wrote: the reason attacker gets bf on kunkka is that he can farm if the game goes bad. I don't think the bf adds much other than the faster farm speed and the damage; other items give more cost efficient damage. here is his exact reasoning i agree with everything he said about the item, and i especially advocate it for mana regen. with a bottle, you're ready for round two in no time which is super important when you look at the cooldowns of his spells and low mana pool. as for the comments about cost efficiency, i think the idea is that if you get it in timely fashion, it can accelerate your farm especially towards the blink dagger now that we are seeing a lot of the 'x' shenanigans (which also relates back to the mana issue!) i vote for core. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
So basically its ass. The farthest thing from "core" lol. | ||
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idonthinksobro
3138 Posts
On August 21 2014 03:07 Sn0_Man wrote: It sux ass but u can buy it if ur safe lane carry cuz u don't get bottle for HP regen in that situation. Which also sux ass cuz kunkka's wasted safe lane and cuz bottle is how u have 2 combos available not just 1. The mana regen is enough to cover AM blinking but nowhere near enough to cover kunkka combos lol. So basically its ass. The farthest thing from "core" lol. amen also going back isn't the worst thing in the world, if it saves you from wasting 4k gold. | ||
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
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Torte de Lini
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Also please don't forget to rate up the guides. All the newer ones are in the database albeit in lower ranks, but the two latest ones are not in: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=301735208 http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=301732264 | ||
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TimoS1703
Germany250 Posts
But Mkb doesn't help vs. void as far as i know`? | ||
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