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BillGates
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
471 Posts
October 15 2013 00:12 GMT
#41
Win7 obviously because win8 is terrible. The 1% to 2% performance increase you get in a tiny percentage of applications is instantly ruined by installing all the additional stuff like start button, search option, previous explorer, the normal folder view, etc...

So all the programs that are fixing win8 and brining back win7 functionality are at the same time destroying the small, tiny performance than win8 had in very few applications.

As of now there is no reason to choose win8 over win7, win7 is more reliable, actually faster over win8 with the 3rd party stuff installed and has more functions and is easier to use.
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
October 15 2013 00:23 GMT
#42
~1 year personally with 8 + a good amount of 8.1 as a developer.

Absolutely nothing lost moving up to 8 from 7. Most annoying part is honestly just turning off my computer. Need to log out before turning off which is stupid, but doesn't really affect me. Otherwise, everything's basically faster, start menu isn't necessary, guy above me doesn't know what he's talking about, and development for 8.1 systems was pretty broken (as of 2-3 weeks ago) because MS rushed out a lot of stuff. Can't find a reason to switch back to 7.
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 15 2013 00:27 GMT
#43
You don't need to log out before shutting down.. windows c > settings > power > shutdown, a lot of clicks but meh.

Everyone saying Windows 8 is terrible are just bad and inefficient so they need a start menu.
Gnosis
Profile Joined December 2008
Scotland912 Posts
October 15 2013 01:15 GMT
#44
Windows 8, no usage issues (have never had to log out before shutting down). Wouldn't go back to Win7.
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Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-15 01:28:20
October 15 2013 01:23 GMT
#45
On October 15 2013 09:27 skyR wrote:
You don't need to log out before shutting down.. windows c > settings > power > shutdown, a lot of clicks but meh.

Everyone saying Windows 8 is terrible are just bad and inefficient so they need a start menu.


I know how to do it with WIN+I through the Settings bar, I'm saying the standard way for people who haven't Google'd WIN+I or the Charms bar is WINKEY, click on Username, Log Out, click on Power Button, Shut Down. They have people drilled into one way of Shutting Down with all their previous releases and totally screwed up on slowly moving people to their new way. And logging out first is where people have ended up.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
October 15 2013 01:25 GMT
#46
Everyone saying Windows 8 is terrible are just bad and inefficient so they need a start menu.


To be fair you're listing four actions for something that can be done in previous versions of windows with a snap mouse to bottom left and two clicks

I don't mind win8, just hesitant to use a new OS for no reason. It's disturbing how much better Battlefield 4 runs on it though, they really need to get their shit sorted out before launch. 20-50% increases in FPS and much more consistent performance instead of constantly dipping below 60fps on the best cpu's (due to better utilization of available cpu) from dual boxing a different OS is disgusting
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 15 2013 02:02 GMT
#47
Well you can just create a shortcut to shut down in one click. It really isn't that hard, I find that most people complaining about how Windows 8 is terrible are just idiots.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-15 02:41:18
October 15 2013 02:27 GMT
#48
You can do that on any modern OS, i just don't see compelling reason to "upgrade" yet. Off the top of my head i can't name anything that i know windows 8 is capable of that i want, and it'd take a bunch of effort to switch operating systems and reinstall everything etc, or even to just become familiar with it if i didn't have an OS installed yet and had used windows 7 for >>10k hours

Maybe i'll give it a shot if it allows for better screen cap performance of dx9 games for streaming, because it's terrible on w7, but i've not actually seen any numbers showing it supposedly being better, just rumor
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QuackPocketDuck
Profile Joined January 2011
410 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-15 03:20:40
October 15 2013 03:20 GMT
#49
7, I need everything I use to work, only once I can not run something because my OS is too old is when I usually upgrade.
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Leeto
Profile Joined August 2007
United States1320 Posts
October 15 2013 04:44 GMT
#50
Honestly you can run Windows 8 and just install Start8 to get the start menu back. Then you can disable UAC which has the side effect of disabling all the metro stuff, and it's pretty much exactly the same as Windows 7 minus a few quirks here and there. I run w8 on my laptop because I got it free from university, and it has small, but noticeably better performance. Battery life is a little better, and it starts/sleeps/wakes faster than when it used to run w7.

I run w7 on my desktop and I prefer it over w8, but it's really not that big of a deal.
BillGates
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
471 Posts
October 15 2013 06:11 GMT
#51
On October 15 2013 09:23 Blisse wrote:
~1 year personally with 8 + a good amount of 8.1 as a developer.

Absolutely nothing lost moving up to 8 from 7. Most annoying part is honestly just turning off my computer. Need to log out before turning off which is stupid, but doesn't really affect me. Otherwise, everything's basically faster, start menu isn't necessary, guy above me doesn't know what he's talking about, and development for 8.1 systems was pretty broken (as of 2-3 weeks ago) because MS rushed out a lot of stuff. Can't find a reason to switch back to 7.

I'm Bill Gates, I think I know a thing or two about win operating systems.

Win7 is the better OS, the 1% performance increase that you get in some applications in win8 is instantly removed once you install 3rd party applications bringing back the start menu and other core features that win8 just doesn't have.

Its not worth to upgrade, win7 is more stable, more reliable and actually faster overall since you don't need bloat-ware just to have the same functions that win7 has naturally.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 15 2013 06:13 GMT
#52
You clearly don't since Windows is fucking terrible -.-
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
October 15 2013 06:14 GMT
#53
windows 8 is slightly (but noticeably) faster, windows 7 is slightly more convenient to use (a lot of the undesirable features in 8 can either be ignored, or fixed with a simple program. I haven't noticed any compatibility issues in the past 6 months. Occasionally there are times where the tablet interface rears it's ugly head though). Overall, it is a wash for me.

I am having a problem with win 8 right now where I am unable to register it, so every time I turn on my comp it installs updates, uninstalls updates, then says "please wait" for an hour.If you count that then win 7 starts up ~58 min faster, but that's kind of an extreme case.
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wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-15 06:29:04
October 15 2013 06:24 GMT
#54
I have Windows 8 on all my of PCs (1 desktop and 2 laptops). I was actually like the 0.01% of the population that loved the new metro start button design and the complete overhaul of the OS. I bought Windows 8 PRO for all the devices at the time of release and they were really cheap. Now you can get them for like $69.99 if you're a student or $250 if you go to a Futureshop or Bestbuy which I think is absolutely insane. It cost me about $60 for all three devices at $30 each and I got one free copy because I had some trouble with installation on one of my laptops and they ended up giving me a free key because it took like an hour of support to figure it out. Definitely made me a Microsoft fan-boy after that xD.

Windows 8.1 Beta is pretty much the same as Windows 8 except you can customize the start screen to show your wallpaper instead of the solid color. There's also a rainbow fish during the start-up instead of the new Windows logo lol. That's pretty much all I noticed so far. Oh and I guess the start button is back but I actually found that annoying and removed it xD. Looks much cleaner to me without the start button (Yeah I'm crazy) and I actually liked that they removed it in 8.
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 15 2013 06:44 GMT
#55
Not crazy, the start button was a giant waste of space.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
October 15 2013 07:07 GMT
#56
I don't really mind giving up ~2k of my 3.6 million pixels of desktop space for an easily accessible menu (all programs either on there, on taskbar, or hotkeyed directly)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
October 15 2013 08:06 GMT
#57
I use w8 on my home PC and w7 on my work PC. So far i'm missing 5 things at work:

1: Native multimonitor support: Not having a taskbar on my 2nd monitor is pretty annoying now that i've gotten used to having it.
2: Task manager for w7 is so...so much worse than the one in w8.
3: Fulscreen start menu makes so much more sense than that awkward little thing in the lower left of the screen that only serves as an oversized search dialog.
4: Win+X shortcut is a really useful one for me as a developer.
5: More efficient memory usage across the board.

I also much prefer the aesthetic of w8 but that's not really a dealbreaker so i won't hold that against 7. Conclusion: w7/w8? w8 100% of the time. The biggest issue i have with w8 is the fact that booting up in safe mode has become way harder for some inexplicable reason, so whenever you have to troubleshoot something you have to take a couple more steps before you can do so. Very annoying, but not enough to make me stick with 7. It was a damn good OS, but w8 is pretty much an upgrade in every meaningful way to me.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4411 Posts
October 15 2013 08:36 GMT
#58
dual boot XP & Linux Mint
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Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
October 15 2013 08:44 GMT
#59
On October 15 2013 17:06 Fragile51 wrote:
I use w8 on my home PC and w7 on my work PC. So far i'm missing 5 things at work:

1: Native multimonitor support: Not having a taskbar on my 2nd monitor is pretty annoying now that i've gotten used to having it.
2: Task manager for w7 is so...so much worse than the one in w8.
3: Fulscreen start menu makes so much more sense than that awkward little thing in the lower left of the screen that only serves as an oversized search dialog.
4: Win+X shortcut is a really useful one for me as a developer.
5: More efficient memory usage across the board.

I also much prefer the aesthetic of w8 but that's not really a dealbreaker so i won't hold that against 7. Conclusion: w7/w8? w8 100% of the time. The biggest issue i have with w8 is the fact that booting up in safe mode has become way harder for some inexplicable reason, so whenever you have to troubleshoot something you have to take a couple more steps before you can do so. Very annoying, but not enough to make me stick with 7. It was a damn good OS, but w8 is pretty much an upgrade in every meaningful way to me.

2. Windows 7 and 8 both have poor task managers, personally I find process hacker much better in every way. The only reasonable difference imo is that startup programs have been moved from msconfig to task manager, but you have to go to msconfig to edit startup services (wtf inconsistency?).

3. Not for me, it's horrendous and nowhere near as efficient for me, not to mention i usually am concentrating on something else when i bring up the start menu and just type in what i want to do. Forcing me to completely break from my flow when I want to do something I don't have to look at is retarded.
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WonnaPlay
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands912 Posts
October 15 2013 09:01 GMT
#60
On October 15 2013 15:44 skyR wrote:
Not crazy, the start button was a giant waste of space.


IMO the cover screen is a waste of time, for anything not a tablet.

I'm quite familiar with the Windows structure, yet whenever I'm trying to find something in Windows 8, I usually end up starting most my applications using CMD.
The start button was a great way to quickly search for programs, no matter if they were in the start menu or not.

Basically I use Windows 8 more like it was DOS instead of making progress with the OS.
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