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BillGates
471 Posts
So all the programs that are fixing win8 and brining back win7 functionality are at the same time destroying the small, tiny performance than win8 had in very few applications. As of now there is no reason to choose win8 over win7, win7 is more reliable, actually faster over win8 with the 3rd party stuff installed and has more functions and is easier to use. | ||
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Blisse
Canada3710 Posts
Absolutely nothing lost moving up to 8 from 7. Most annoying part is honestly just turning off my computer. Need to log out before turning off which is stupid, but doesn't really affect me. Otherwise, everything's basically faster, start menu isn't necessary, guy above me doesn't know what he's talking about, and development for 8.1 systems was pretty broken (as of 2-3 weeks ago) because MS rushed out a lot of stuff. Can't find a reason to switch back to 7. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Everyone saying Windows 8 is terrible are just bad and inefficient so they need a start menu. | ||
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Gnosis
Scotland912 Posts
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Blisse
Canada3710 Posts
On October 15 2013 09:27 skyR wrote: You don't need to log out before shutting down.. windows c > settings > power > shutdown, a lot of clicks but meh. Everyone saying Windows 8 is terrible are just bad and inefficient so they need a start menu. I know how to do it with WIN+I through the Settings bar, I'm saying the standard way for people who haven't Google'd WIN+I or the Charms bar is WINKEY, click on Username, Log Out, click on Power Button, Shut Down. They have people drilled into one way of Shutting Down with all their previous releases and totally screwed up on slowly moving people to their new way. And logging out first is where people have ended up. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Everyone saying Windows 8 is terrible are just bad and inefficient so they need a start menu. To be fair you're listing four actions for something that can be done in previous versions of windows with a snap mouse to bottom left and two clicks I don't mind win8, just hesitant to use a new OS for no reason. It's disturbing how much better Battlefield 4 runs on it though, they really need to get their shit sorted out before launch. 20-50% increases in FPS and much more consistent performance instead of constantly dipping below 60fps on the best cpu's (due to better utilization of available cpu) from dual boxing a different OS is disgusting | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Maybe i'll give it a shot if it allows for better screen cap performance of dx9 games for streaming, because it's terrible on w7, but i've not actually seen any numbers showing it supposedly being better, just rumor | ||
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QuackPocketDuck
410 Posts
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Leeto
United States1320 Posts
I run w7 on my desktop and I prefer it over w8, but it's really not that big of a deal. | ||
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BillGates
471 Posts
On October 15 2013 09:23 Blisse wrote: ~1 year personally with 8 + a good amount of 8.1 as a developer. Absolutely nothing lost moving up to 8 from 7. Most annoying part is honestly just turning off my computer. Need to log out before turning off which is stupid, but doesn't really affect me. Otherwise, everything's basically faster, start menu isn't necessary, guy above me doesn't know what he's talking about, and development for 8.1 systems was pretty broken (as of 2-3 weeks ago) because MS rushed out a lot of stuff. Can't find a reason to switch back to 7. I'm Bill Gates, I think I know a thing or two about win operating systems. Win7 is the better OS, the 1% performance increase that you get in some applications in win8 is instantly removed once you install 3rd party applications bringing back the start menu and other core features that win8 just doesn't have. Its not worth to upgrade, win7 is more stable, more reliable and actually faster overall since you don't need bloat-ware just to have the same functions that win7 has naturally. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
I am having a problem with win 8 right now where I am unable to register it, so every time I turn on my comp it installs updates, uninstalls updates, then says "please wait" for an hour.If you count that then win 7 starts up ~58 min faster, but that's kind of an extreme case. | ||
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wptlzkwjd
Canada1240 Posts
Windows 8.1 Beta is pretty much the same as Windows 8 except you can customize the start screen to show your wallpaper instead of the solid color. There's also a rainbow fish during the start-up instead of the new Windows logo lol. That's pretty much all I noticed so far. Oh and I guess the start button is back but I actually found that annoying and removed it xD. Looks much cleaner to me without the start button (Yeah I'm crazy) and I actually liked that they removed it in 8. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20342 Posts
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
1: Native multimonitor support: Not having a taskbar on my 2nd monitor is pretty annoying now that i've gotten used to having it. 2: Task manager for w7 is so...so much worse than the one in w8. 3: Fulscreen start menu makes so much more sense than that awkward little thing in the lower left of the screen that only serves as an oversized search dialog. 4: Win+X shortcut is a really useful one for me as a developer. 5: More efficient memory usage across the board. I also much prefer the aesthetic of w8 but that's not really a dealbreaker so i won't hold that against 7. Conclusion: w7/w8? w8 100% of the time. The biggest issue i have with w8 is the fact that booting up in safe mode has become way harder for some inexplicable reason, so whenever you have to troubleshoot something you have to take a couple more steps before you can do so. Very annoying, but not enough to make me stick with 7. It was a damn good OS, but w8 is pretty much an upgrade in every meaningful way to me. | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4432 Posts
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Rollin
Australia1552 Posts
On October 15 2013 17:06 Fragile51 wrote: I use w8 on my home PC and w7 on my work PC. So far i'm missing 5 things at work: 1: Native multimonitor support: Not having a taskbar on my 2nd monitor is pretty annoying now that i've gotten used to having it. 2: Task manager for w7 is so...so much worse than the one in w8. 3: Fulscreen start menu makes so much more sense than that awkward little thing in the lower left of the screen that only serves as an oversized search dialog. 4: Win+X shortcut is a really useful one for me as a developer. 5: More efficient memory usage across the board. I also much prefer the aesthetic of w8 but that's not really a dealbreaker so i won't hold that against 7. Conclusion: w7/w8? w8 100% of the time. The biggest issue i have with w8 is the fact that booting up in safe mode has become way harder for some inexplicable reason, so whenever you have to troubleshoot something you have to take a couple more steps before you can do so. Very annoying, but not enough to make me stick with 7. It was a damn good OS, but w8 is pretty much an upgrade in every meaningful way to me. 2. Windows 7 and 8 both have poor task managers, personally I find process hacker much better in every way. The only reasonable difference imo is that startup programs have been moved from msconfig to task manager, but you have to go to msconfig to edit startup services (wtf inconsistency?). 3. Not for me, it's horrendous and nowhere near as efficient for me, not to mention i usually am concentrating on something else when i bring up the start menu and just type in what i want to do. Forcing me to completely break from my flow when I want to do something I don't have to look at is retarded. | ||
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WonnaPlay
Netherlands912 Posts
On October 15 2013 15:44 skyR wrote: Not crazy, the start button was a giant waste of space. IMO the cover screen is a waste of time, for anything not a tablet. I'm quite familiar with the Windows structure, yet whenever I'm trying to find something in Windows 8, I usually end up starting most my applications using CMD. The start button was a great way to quickly search for programs, no matter if they were in the start menu or not. Basically I use Windows 8 more like it was DOS instead of making progress with the OS. | ||
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