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[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
October 24 2013 03:13 GMT
#161
On October 15 2013 10:23 Blisse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2013 09:27 skyR wrote:
You don't need to log out before shutting down.. windows c > settings > power > shutdown, a lot of clicks but meh.

Everyone saying Windows 8 is terrible are just bad and inefficient so they need a start menu.


I know how to do it with WIN+I through the Settings bar, I'm saying the standard way for people who haven't Google'd WIN+I or the Charms bar is WINKEY, click on Username, Log Out, click on Power Button, Shut Down. They have people drilled into one way of Shutting Down with all their previous releases and totally screwed up on slowly moving people to their new way. And logging out first is where people have ended up.


Pro tip:

Go to desktop mode (you probably are there already)
Press alt+f4
Press enter
Profit.
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pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2503 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-24 04:26:48
October 24 2013 04:26 GMT
#162
Windows 7. I used to use Mac os 9.0 and earlier versions, now i fucking hate that overpriced bs. I have also ubuntu installed on my laptop. It runs even better than windows and faster, dowloading videos from youtube is enabled. Aldo i never use it cause of the program Reason. My only regret ever is you can' t properly play civ2 with windows 7.

Edit:spelling
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Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-24 04:48:22
October 24 2013 04:45 GMT
#163
Look up "freeciv" to replace civ2. It started out as some sort of clone and is open source. It will run on Windows 7. On your laptop, add the "freeciv-gtk" and "freeciv-extras" ubuntu packages.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2503 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-24 05:13:27
October 24 2013 05:13 GMT
#164
On October 24 2013 13:45 Ropid wrote:
Look up "freeciv" to replace civ2. It started out as some sort of clone and is open source. It will run on Windows 7. On your laptop, add the "freeciv-gtk" and "freeciv-extras" ubuntu packages.


yeah i tried that one out several times before. Its just not the same. Mostly its the sounds and the texts. OUR WORDS ARE BACKED WITH NUCLEAR WEAPONS, there' s just no comparison. Maybe this way its better cause i would just get hooked and pay it non stop. Thanx the same for the tip
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Hokay
Profile Joined May 2007
United States738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-24 06:06:57
October 24 2013 05:38 GMT
#165
On October 24 2013 04:04 BillGates wrote:
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On October 24 2013 03:58 Hokay wrote:
Desktop is windows 7. Laptop is a macbook with osx & bootcamp. I can never go back to a pc laptop after owing several MBP.

LOL, those are expensive as fuck, for the same performance of windows laptops.

Like $1500 macbook performs equivalent to a $1000 Asus windows laptop.

The OS is also worse since there are a lot less programs, games and productivity suites for apple os.


Performance isn't everything, it's all about the user experience and productivity on osx. You must be living in the past? Productivity is fine on macs. You now get their productivity suite for free with OSX Maverick which was released to the public for free yesterday. We don't even have to pay for out major OS upgrade like Windows 8 or have to buy a productivity suite like Office.

The build quality and user experience of macbooks is great. I like the high resolution of the retina display that looks better than all of the past crappy laptops I have ever owned in my life time. Pictures & text look crispy as fuck. The battery life is very efficient with OSX, and the glass trackpad + finger gestures is too good to ever go back to the archaic methods of cheap plastic laptop window trackpads with terribly executed or lacking finger gesture commands to control or navigate quickly in and out of any program without pushing a single physical button.

Most laptops feel cheap, look cheap, are cheaply built with ugly screens etc. so until they step up their game & windows step up the user experience & productivity, I see no reason for me to ever buy one unless my job required one, or I wanted to game on the go. I find the user experience just plain worse on so many levels.

I use to be on the hate bandwagon for macs for about a decade until I bought one for school & traveling while photographing & video editing. Yes they are a bit pricey, but you get top notch customer support, a uniquely positive user experience that laptops fail to provide, high quality built machine that easily syncs to many apple services, apps & devices. I use my macbook for non-gaming stuff so I'm ok with not having widows 95% of the time. If I wanted windows on the go I'll just dual boot on my mac which I rarely do.
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
October 24 2013 07:00 GMT
#166
On October 24 2013 14:38 Hokay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 04:04 BillGates wrote:
On October 24 2013 03:58 Hokay wrote:
Desktop is windows 7. Laptop is a macbook with osx & bootcamp. I can never go back to a pc laptop after owing several MBP.

LOL, those are expensive as fuck, for the same performance of windows laptops.

Like $1500 macbook performs equivalent to a $1000 Asus windows laptop.

The OS is also worse since there are a lot less programs, games and productivity suites for apple os.


Performance isn't everything, it's all about the user experience and productivity on osx. You must be living in the past? Productivity is fine on macs. You now get their productivity suite for free with OSX Maverick which was released to the public for free yesterday. We don't even have to pay for out major OS upgrade like Windows 8 or have to buy a productivity suite like Office.
They don't even get worse performance. Under OS X they work significantly more efficiently than the equivalent machine does under Windows. OS X is designed to be incredibly efficient while still giving great performance. Mavericks improved the battery life of my 15" i7 MBP by roughly an hour just with the under-the-hood improvements they did (now I have around 8ish hours of battery life under standard use).

And yeah, Macs achieved parity a while ago when it comes to programs for doing actual work, and the few that aren't available can be easily accessed via VMs or dual booting, though I have yet to run into any I need for school (I'm in comp sci) other than Visual Studio, which I can easily run with a VM.

I used to hate Macs too. Then I actually used one and realized they aren't so bad. I then got one with the idea that if I didn't like it I could sell it and 4 years later I still have that machine and it works just as well as the day I got it. Then I got another with a quad core i7 and it can do basically anything I want it to while still having enough battery to last me the day.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-24 08:43:50
October 24 2013 08:42 GMT
#167
I always tease mac user because they are sensitive as fuck and in a general thing they take you from up (i don't know if it works in english). So i tease them.

Macs are exepensive but are solid stuff. i will never buy a mac because i just hate it (and because it costs so much, can't play games or have to get a dual boot/ boot camp etc...) but yeah. Don't say that mac are shit.

All OS are good. they works for what they were designed for (Unless Windows Millenium :p).

I don't mind working on OSX or on Linux (well i'm kind of forced to :p). But in my home. Always PC. It's just a preference.

Also they are so much bad idea on everything in the computer market. Like : Microsoft have shitty tech support, Macs can't do squat with games, Linux is just for programers and hipsters blablabla.

You want a gaming machine. Go for a PC.
You want a work machine. Go for a Mac.
You want to learn how to do stuff while working. Go for Linux.

That's basicly what i tell to people when asked.
Of course i might say : "But if you get a mac, you need to buy an expresso machine and lift you finger when talking". But that's just teasing :p
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wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
October 24 2013 09:49 GMT
#168
been using 8 nicely but have to wait for 8.1 need to figure out someday how to get to there through enterprise
BW -> League -> CSGO
Hokay
Profile Joined May 2007
United States738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-24 10:48:45
October 24 2013 10:36 GMT
#169
On October 24 2013 17:42 FFW_Rude wrote:
I always tease mac user because they are sensitive as fuck and in a general thing they take you from up (i don't know if it works in english). So i tease them.


So actually backing up why you like or hate something is being "sensitive fuck"? I just explained why a mac is worth it to me when someone tells you the typical "lolololol you can get a laptop for cheaper with the same performance bla bla macs are overpriced" that most ignorant people say. There are way more other reasons to get a computer aside from performance to dollar ratio or gaming on a laptop.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-24 12:12:42
October 24 2013 12:09 GMT
#170
On October 24 2013 19:36 Hokay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 17:42 FFW_Rude wrote:
I always tease mac user because they are sensitive as fuck and in a general thing they take you from up (i don't know if it works in english). So i tease them.


So actually backing up why you like or hate something is being "sensitive fuck"? I just explained why a mac is worth it to me when someone tells you the typical "lolololol you can get a laptop for cheaper with the same performance bla bla macs are overpriced" that most ignorant people say. There are way more other reasons to get a computer aside from performance to dollar ratio or gaming on a laptop.


No no. It's just that i have a lot of friend that use mac that just jump on the pc hate whenever they can for no reason. And when i tease them they just lose it

I do know that mac is good and stuff etc... They are not overpriced. They are the right price for what it is. But i really like to tease mac user about this because they all (that i know) say PC is shit for no reason. Like you know. You come to their house and they go with : "oh i bought a new mac, it's so more powerfull than a pc". And you are like "wtf ? Can you give me a coffee before starting this ?".

I surely mistyped and was misunderstood

And i didn't said sensitive fuck (which would be a insult) but : "sensitive as fuck" which would be translated to "highly sensitive" (or maybe i'm mistaken ?)
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Hokay
Profile Joined May 2007
United States738 Posts
October 24 2013 20:22 GMT
#171
haha alright. I just found it funny you would say that after my post. Yeah I quoted it wrong. I was playing hearthstone while typing that out and my game turn timer was about to end :X
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
October 27 2013 23:46 GMT
#172
On October 22 2013 01:36 Cyro wrote:
Skype is terrible with the IP stuff, forced auto updates (sometimes it will just NOT ask for permission), throwing ads (with volume!) in your face etc, didn't used to be that way. I don't actually know of a decent solution for IM with any kind of features (few people seem to be defaulting to stuff like IRC+teamspeak)
yeah totally.

I think it would be nice if there was an IRC-like protocol with improved infrastructure at it's base level, and perhaps even some sort of decentralized (yet universal/ubiquitous) communication. Improve security/privacy would also be helpful, since I think there's some issues.

On October 22 2013 04:30 Derez wrote:
Using pidgin with MSN gets pretty close to perfect if you're still using MSN. No reason for it not to work on 8.1.
Isn't the closing of MSN servers super imminent? In fact I thought that the servers themselves maybe even went down. No point piloting/riding a sinking ship, man. In fact wouldn't virtually all your contacts left MSN since the program no longer functions (as far as I know)? You hook Pidgin up with Skype too or something?

Considering how much longer the live messenger Network has stayed up for, I do regret leaving it at the time I did (like 4 years ago) instead of staying with it for a bit longer though.

The one thing preventing me from easily jumping on Pidgin is pretty much the fact that I still need to have Skype running to have Skype messaging support (although I might hop on anyway). Trillian supports Skype-less Skype protocol, but it has other issues. Anyway enough of that off-topic stuff.
"Then he told me to tell you that he wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire" — "Well, you tell him that I said that I wouldn't piss on him if he was on Jeopardy!"
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
October 27 2013 23:56 GMT
#173
On October 24 2013 14:38 Hokay wrote:
...OSX Maverick which was released to the public for free yesterday. We don't even have to pay for out major OS upgrade like Windows 8 or have to buy a productivity suite like Office.
Windows users don't need to buy Office to compose office-like documents; They have access to free Microsoft web office, or of course alternatives like Libreoffice.
Anyway, the main point I have is that you don't have to pay to upgrade because any time you buy a Mac PC you have to spend an bunch of extra money. That money more than exceeds the cost for the OS and office software unless you valuate those things at high values. Not only that, but you have to do-so EVERY TIME you buy a new machine, rather than just once, even if the operating system and software are the same versions as on the older machine.
"Then he told me to tell you that he wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire" — "Well, you tell him that I said that I wouldn't piss on him if he was on Jeopardy!"
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 28 2013 00:14 GMT
#174
Pidgin and other open source messengers don't support Skype since their protocol isn't available publicly.

Microsoft only prevented you from using the MSN client but there are patches (eg. MSN Reviver) that circumvent this. The servers are still up and running. I'm no network expert but I'd be very surprised if they just bought down the servers since Skype and Outlook both connect to the same server?
Hokay
Profile Joined May 2007
United States738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 05:52:10
October 28 2013 05:48 GMT
#175
On October 28 2013 08:56 Xapti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 14:38 Hokay wrote:
...OSX Maverick which was released to the public for free yesterday. We don't even have to pay for out major OS upgrade like Windows 8 or have to buy a productivity suite like Office.
Windows users don't need to buy Office to compose office-like documents; They have access to free Microsoft web office, or of course alternatives like Libreoffice.
Anyway, the main point I have is that you don't have to pay to upgrade because any time you buy a Mac PC you have to spend an bunch of extra money. That money more than exceeds the cost for the OS and office software unless you valuate those things at high values. Not only that, but you have to do-so EVERY TIME you buy a new machine, rather than just once, even if the operating system and software are the same versions as on the older machine.


The unique user experience, apple services, app ecosystem, aesthetics, form factor & top notch build quality allows Apple to sell their hardware at a premium. Whether if all that is worth it is up to you.
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
October 30 2013 03:46 GMT
#176
On October 28 2013 09:14 skyR wrote:
Pidgin and other open source messengers don't support Skype since their protocol isn't available publicly.

Microsoft only prevented you from using the MSN client but there are patches (eg. MSN Reviver) that circumvent this. The servers are still up and running. I'm no network expert but I'd be very surprised if they just bought down the servers since Skype and Outlook both connect to the same server?
If you mean physical server that doesn't mean anything; fact is Skype uses a different protocol and the live messenger stuff was transferred over to it. As far as I heard the old servers for the messaging network Microsoft used was going down. I don't think Outlook uses the protocol (just the contacts), and I don't see see why [at least the web version of] Outlook would need to use the protocol since it's through the web browser (and I didn't think the installed program really did any instant messaging but I haven't seen it in a while so maybe that changed).

The Pidgin-Skype thing is more complex than what you're talking about. Pidgin does support Skype with a plugin but it needs Skype running (maybe you knew that). There is a kit of APIs/software that allows programs to support the Skype protocol —hence Trillian's use— but it's restrictive to use (binds the developers and the users), which is not something the developers of Pidgin think is worth it (which is a logical opinion an open-source organization to have); It also obviously makes the program no longer entirely open source technically.

Anyway that is a topic for another thread really so I should probably stop talking about it.
"Then he told me to tell you that he wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire" — "Well, you tell him that I said that I wouldn't piss on him if he was on Jeopardy!"
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
November 20 2013 19:20 GMT
#177
Hello people. So i installed 8.1 i thought that i would get a start menu but i just got a button that opens metro.

Is it possible tu have a real start menu and not going into metro and to the huge ass list of applications that i don't use 95% of them ?
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 20 2013 19:28 GMT
#178
... use Start8 or whatever if you want a start menu.
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
November 20 2013 19:28 GMT
#179
On November 21 2013 04:20 FFW_Rude wrote:
Hello people. So i installed 8.1 i thought that i would get a start menu but i just got a button that opens metro.

Is it possible tu have a real start menu and not going into metro and to the huge ass list of applications that i don't use 95% of them ?
There are applications that will do what you want but nothing built in, no. You can check out stuff like Start8 and the like. There's a ton of them.
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
November 21 2013 13:51 GMT
#180
On November 21 2013 04:28 Ben... wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 04:20 FFW_Rude wrote:
Hello people. So i installed 8.1 i thought that i would get a start menu but i just got a button that opens metro.

Is it possible tu have a real start menu and not going into metro and to the huge ass list of applications that i don't use 95% of them ?
There are applications that will do what you want but nothing built in, no. You can check out stuff like Start8 and the like. There's a ton of them.


Oh ok i thought 8.1 would have one. I misread Thanks. I'm going to reinstall start 8 then since 8.1 fucked up my start 8 install (among other things).
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