What OS do you use on your pc? windows 7 or 8? - Page 8

sorrowptoss

Canada1431 Posts

October 22 2013 12:46 GMT

#141

Windows 7 for me, too lazy to switch to w8, though my brother got w8 on his new asus and it honestly doesn't look too bad, but it doesn't seem amazing either.

Zocat

Germany2229 Posts

October 22 2013 14:31 GMT

#142

On October 22 2013 17:39 FFW_Rude wrote:

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On October 22 2013 01:31 Zocat wrote:

On October 22 2013 00:36 FFW_Rude wrote:

On October 22 2013 00:14 skyR wrote:

On October 21 2013 21:57 FFW_Rude wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On October 21 2013 21:38 dani` wrote:
Most people who shit on Windows 8 but love Windows 7 are pretty ignorant. They are extremely alike, it's just that Windows 8 introduced the new Start Menu which catches everybody's attention. Apart from that it's basically the same or faster / better. So if you just completely ignore the new Start Menu you'll end up with Windows 7 but better, which is what I'm doing.

With the new option to boot straight to desktop you don't even need to actively ignore it, you just never see it again and forget it existed in the first place. I did use Start8 to bring back the old start menu (and skip the new start menu on boot, a feature introduced natively with 8.1 as well) since I hardly use the start menu to begin with so I don't see the need for a full screen version with fancy tiles -- though looking at it now it seems the new Start works perfectly fine as well for just searching some stuff every now and then. I use Launcy to launch my applications and do other stuff (logging out / shutting down etc) so while I agree they made e.g. shutting down tedious (it needed many actions) it never affected me personally anyway.

Well i have windows 8 and windows 7 and i fail to see how am i ignorant..

Softwares that need a windows account are bullshit because downloading programms is a pain in the ass. Every time i open an office file it goes full screen and it mask the bar so i can't switch between programs easily. the window update thing that takes quite a lot of ressources. 20updates per week with restart of the computer without being asked.

Or even better : "your computer will restart in 2hours" and you can't do squat about it. That's not happening in W7. They are little small thing in W8 that are annoying. Just small little things. That's why i like W7 a lot more than W8.

Also updates on restart takes like FOREVER to load on a good computer (ASus rog G70)

For a casual user that don't know a lot about computer here's what i hear =>
- Option to boot straight to desktop does not exist.
- Using start menu is mandatory
- It's annoying to have to shut down the computer by pressing the button... i can't shutdown when i am into windows...
- Where the hell are my applications ? I installed a bunch of things and i can't find them anymore

So.. I think you have a faire point but the first sentence : people are ignorant...

You modify the way W8 works by default,
You use programs to do action that W8 can do (ie shutdown when you know how to find it).
So you don't use the settings that a new user can have.

Also a lot of people think that they need to use the metro interface now which piss them off.

W8 is a pain in the ass because everytime a new friend/family person have it. I have tons of phone calls about how you do this or that

I don't understand why you are using apps instead of traditional desktop software? And you fail to see how you're ignorant...

The restart crap happens in Windows 7 as well, it's just less pushy about it.

Most people complaining about Windows 8 aren't your typical users so yes most of them are ignorant.

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I don't use them. But most "normal" user are. But apperently we can't talk about those persons... We can only insult them.

The "restart crap" is not happening in W7 as it is with W8... 7 have the restart in the same place that vista had, Xp had, 98 had, 95 had.

Windows 8 have it hidden in some place elsewhere. There is little things like that, that was move because... no reason.+ Show Spoiler +

I have my computer on Windows 7. My GF computer is on Windows 8. I find annoying that i need to search for things that aren't in the same place. That i need to explain things that i would have not on windows 7 (where to find skype or teamspeak for example). I don't say Windows 8 is crap. It just that it's not as intuitive as the other windows.

For exemple : My Dad called me because he was "stuck" in Powerpoint... because he didn't know how to exit full screen. And Alt-Tab is for him science fiction (i'm exagerating) but he asks me everytime if i can put him on "the other windows. You know. The one that works"

What?
Windows 7 (Laptop): http://imgur.com/SyFGXOb
Windows 8 (Desktop): http://imgur.com/b0cPlwQ

How is that a different position?
I personally have both set do "Check for updates automatically, download & install manually".

Also learn: Win-X most important shortcut in Win8.

Also shutting down Win8: Win-D Alt-F4 Enter.

For programs which you basically have always open: Pin them to your startbar. That's what it's for. And you can start them with Win-# (1-0 I think). So when I boot I hit Win (also removes the initial Metro) 1-2-3 and start my browser as well as 2 other programs which are running 100% of the time.

For StartMenu: I personally dont see a difference between hitting Win and then selecting the program from my StartMenu or hitting Win and then selecting the program from my Metro interface.

Also keep in mind that you can start additional instances of programs with holding the Shift-Key while starting them.

If you're 50+ and afraid of hotkeys. Yes, stay away from Win8. If not, adapt and be more productive (most of those shortcuts also work in previous Window versions).

Well i was talking about the shutodwn thing. (you know, start, stop computer etc...). And for windows update, it just that on W8 there is on option (default) that reboot the computer and you can't do something about it (it happens on W7 but you can say that you don't want to reboot). Again

Small thing.

Ok, sorry somehow I misunderstood you.
But I still dont see your problem, since I was never forced to reboot in my Windows 8.

I just installed an update (manually started the download & installation progress) and it says "A reboot is required for the update to be finished" with a "Restart now" button. I closed the window via the x on the top right.
Now the Windows Update says: "We'll finish installing some updates the next time your PC is restarted."
I wont see any mention from this update until I shutdown/start the PC. So when I go to bed tonight and/or when I boot it up tomorrow.

On October 22 2013 20:34 FFW_Rude wrote:

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The same thing if you indexed all of your 2,5Tb discs though.

Oh ok you spoilered

But i don't get MSDNAA and technet ? If they give free stuff to everyone i don't see how that is legit. I might have to do a search for that

I dont know about technet, but not to everyone. Your academic institution (or company?) needs to have a contract with MS to pay for Dreamspark access.

You get free access to most MS products like Windows, Visual Studio, Blend, Expression, ...
The only big thing missing is Office even though that will be available on 1st Dec (might be a German only promotion though, dont know).

FFW_Rude

France10201 Posts

October 22 2013 15:12 GMT

#143

On October 22 2013 21:27 skyR wrote:
Your example was a folder address which would bring up that folder's content.

Search does not search inside file contents unless you specify "content:".

I think my search function is not well parametred in that case because it does and i don't specify anything

Is there other function in W8 that you like and does not happens in W7 ?

@Zocat

i will look on my GF computer and see what i can change to stop this restart madness. Because it just does not ask questions. I think it's the default : "Auto download and install that does that".

I don't think we have those things in France for the MS partenership. Or i just don't know about it.

Sufficiency

Canada23833 Posts

October 22 2013 16:25 GMT

#144

On October 22 2013 21:08 FFW_Rude wrote:

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I find it quite slow when i use the search when it's not indexed. I thought you had to.

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We have some people on W8 with new laptops at work. Some cry, some don't. We had a few demands on going back to W7 but not too many. Maybe 1/5

Do you work at Microsoft?

wei2coolman

United States60033 Posts

October 22 2013 16:51 GMT

#145

New windows 8.1 visually a lot better than 8, makes metro a lot more palatable with the ability to keep desktop backgroud. I'm excited to try and mess with powershell.

Also how is Emet not auto included in every copy of windows?

endy

Switzerland8970 Posts

October 22 2013 17:00 GMT

#146

On October 23 2013 00:12 FFW_Rude wrote:
I don't think we have those things in France for the MS partenership. Or i just don't know about it.

They're free, it's just not advertised properly so most students have no idea. It's usual through a Dreamspark Premium partnership.

Djzapz

Canada10681 Posts

October 22 2013 17:28 GMT

#147

I've gotten used to Win8 on my laptop with Classic Shell installed and I was thinking of getting Win8 for my gaming PC because I'm tired of Aero's bullshit and I wouldn't mind the tiny bit of extra performance. However I'm confused by the various versions of the damn thing. I can get the student upgrade version of it for $70 but my Win7 is not exactly legitimate (I'm entitled to it because I bought Vista and didn't use it because it was shit).

Now I'm wondering if I can get the student upgrade version for this PC and use it on my next PC when I pick up a new one next year... And if so, do I need to install Win7 and then upgrade to Win8 and THEN upgrade to Win8.1? This whole thing seems messy.

Part of me wants to upgrade because I wouldn't mind having a legit windows, but at the same time, perhaps the benefits are minor. That candyass UI is fucking disgraceful and installing third party software to get rid of it is a clumsy solution.

Ropid

Germany3557 Posts

October 22 2013 20:25 GMT

#148

It's all technically the exact same key as far as I know. Those limitations regarding upgrade version or OEM version are just in the license text. It's basically a gentlemen's agreement between you and Microsoft. If you use the normal installation media to install, your upgrade key will work even for a clean installation, same with the OEM (aka. "System Builder") key when switching PC.

There are still technical limitations regarding Windows 8 Core vs. Pro vs. Enterprise versions with the key. The Pro key will only install on OEM, Upgrade and normal Windows 8 Pro discs, not on Enterprise.

Djzapz

Canada10681 Posts

October 22 2013 23:07 GMT

#149

Alright thank you, fine sir!

CatNzHat

United States1599 Posts

October 23 2013 01:11 GMT

#150

I have two laptops and a desktop, old work laptop is windows 8/ubuntu, desktop is windows 7/ubuntu for dev, and new work laptop is strictly OSX

Dontkillme

Korea (South)806 Posts

October 23 2013 01:33 GMT

#151

People bashing Windows 7. Windows 8 is confusing as hell

FFW_Rude

France10201 Posts

October 23 2013 09:45 GMT

#152

On October 23 2013 01:25 Sufficiency wrote:

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Do you work at Microsoft?

Not at all. Why ?

coolix

China2 Posts

October 23 2013 10:16 GMT

#153

I still like my windows7.But i find a windows8 for 10$ then i'll try it.

Hokay

United States738 Posts

October 23 2013 18:58 GMT

#154

Desktop is windows 7. Laptop is a macbook with osx & bootcamp. I can never go back to a pc laptop after owing several MBP.

BillGates

471 Posts

October 23 2013 19:04 GMT

#155

On October 24 2013 03:58 Hokay wrote:
Desktop is windows 7. Laptop is a macbook with osx & bootcamp. I can never go back to a pc laptop after owing several MBP.

LOL, those are expensive as fuck, for the same performance of windows laptops.

Like $1500 macbook performs equivalent to a $1000 Asus windows laptop.

The OS is also worse since there are a lot less programs, games and productivity suites for apple os.

ffadicted

United States3545 Posts

October 23 2013 19:27 GMT

#156

On October 14 2013 16:42 skyR wrote:
but Windows is still shit.

lol no, still significantly better than anything available, and that's why you use it

I use Windows 8, not a fan of the whole metro idea, but the regular desktop stuff is great

skyR

Canada13817 Posts

October 23 2013 19:38 GMT

#157

You must be kidding yourself. I use Windows because games are developed for Windows, not because it's significantly better than alternatives.

shubcraft

Germany145 Posts

October 23 2013 19:42 GMT

#158

am i allowed to post stuff like this?!

http://usabilitygeek.com/windows-8-vs-windows-7-speed-and-performance-testing/

http://kotaku.com/5935337/lets-see-how-windows-8-performs-against-windows-7

Win 8 has some aspects with more performance but when it comes to gaming win 7 is slightly faster.

Mahanaim

Korea (South)1002 Posts

October 24 2013 01:17 GMT

#159

Windows 8.1
Works like a charm after the graphics performance problems were fixed XD

Rollin

Australia1552 Posts

October 24 2013 02:53 GMT

#160

On October 24 2013 04:04 BillGates wrote:

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Yeah because "performance" is the sole reason you buy a laptop as opposed to a desktop. Battery life, build quality, screen quality, trackpad/keyboard quality and size/weight are completely unimportant.

A $500 desktop performs equivalent to a $1000 Asus Windows laptop.

He also has bootcamp, so he can use Windows or OSX if he wants. Personally I use Linux for my 'nix needs, but OSX is also a reasonable choice.

There is so much ignorance here I can't tell if you're retarded or trolling, although I'm leaning towards the latter.

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