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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
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arcane1129
United States271 Posts
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XenOmega
Canada2822 Posts
He wants to play BF4 with very high settings. His total budget is 1000$ i5 4670 = 239$ XFX 550W = 59.99$ Samsung 840 series 120gb = 104$ Gigabyte GA-H81-D3 ATX LGA1150 H81 Express DDR3 PCI-E16 2XVGA GBLAN SATA3 USB3 Mother 65$ Gigabyte Radeon HD R9 280X OC 1100MHZ 3GB 6.0GHZ GDDR5 DVI HDMI 2XMINIDP PCI-E Video Card 320$ Patriot Viper 3 8GB 2X4GB PC3-12800 DDR3-1600 10-10-10-27 1.5V Dual Channel Memory Kit - Black Mamba 79$ Zalman Z9 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case Black 3X5.25 1X3.5 5X3.5INT No PS w/ Fan Controller & Temp Display 65$ total is 939$ before taxes. It goes over 1000$ with taxes and shippings. no mouse/keyboard, no screen, no DVD drive, no OS ; he will salvage those parts from his old computer. I'm using NCIX, Canada. Some parts, I'm unsure. For example, the PSU, the RAM (I guess it should be compatible) A quick research suggested me that the new line of AMD gpu are good for their price. True? False? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Pricematch 840 to $101: http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950DR4393 Get Arc Mini for $60: http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=67628 , get an mATX motherboard to match Pricematch these: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57953 with http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428 for $68 R9 280X are a bit less expensive than the older equivalent 7970 but it lacks the three games bundle. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
I think RAM is fine unless you can find a cheaper kit with the same specs. PSU is also good, it's probably what I would recommend as well. Two other good budget PSUs would be XFX 450W or Corsair CX430. I guess after that maybe you could compromise with a slightly cheaper graphics card. Maybe a good 7950 or GTX 760? I wouldn't make a concession on the i5 though, BF4 is CPU hungry from what I've heard. Edit: lawl so slow still, how well would a 7950 fare in running BF4? obviously one couldn't max settings but it's still a good card i think it could do reasonably well, no? | ||
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XenOmega
Canada2822 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
It should be enough to kick you over to radeon GPU if your main game supports mantle, and you are looking for price : performance though still, how well would a 7950 fare in running BF4? obviously one couldn't max settings but it's still a good card i think it could do reasonably well, no? good tradeoffs against a 2gb 770, considering they can OC decently and have 3gb of VRAM. They're not even that much worse in performance. OC vs OC, a good 7950 might even be preferable to a 2gb 770 for bf4 when mantle lands. I don't know that many numbers off the top of my head, but it's not a terrible choice | ||
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XenOmega
Canada2822 Posts
The game pack is tempting... but at the same time, isn't the 280 better? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
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IMKR
United States378 Posts
from this list http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100008118 8000&IsNodeId=1&Description=samsung ssd&name=Newegg&Order=BESTMATCH&nm_mc=EMCPP-IT102013C&cm_mmc=EMCPP-IT102013C-_-PPS1-_-banner-SSD-_-PromoWord& i got a deal from newegg where i can get 15% off an SSD. what are the differences between the model? the only thing i know so far through reserach is Regular < EVO < Pro | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
If you get the 120GB model, regular-to-EVO leap is arguably worth a damn though. Depends how you use it. Other than that, not really. | ||
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IMKR
United States378 Posts
I might get the 250GB evo unless you guys think a better deal will come around later, or for black friday? | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
Also thanks for clearing that up about the 7950. 7950 does sort of seem like an underrated card, no? In fact it seems like we can overclock pretty much any 7000 series GPU to get more out of it. Honestly, from the guide I read (on tomshardware though..) OC'ing a GPU seems pretty straightforward. However if we overclock GPUs it means that our case should at very least have good airflow, right? I feel that's an obvious statement, but there should at least be some sort of trade off to OC'ing a GPU. I can also think of power draw. Meaning if we overclock a 7950 to give comparable performance to a stock 7970, it'll consume more power (and run hotter) to obtain that performance. If we overclock a 7970 the "same amount" we did a 7950 (obviously no chip is the same), then we'll get much more performance for similar power/temp levels. Edit: by the way, what games are in the game pack? I'm not sure I would be interested in free games if they weren't games that I would play. Unless I had a friend that might want them, or something. | ||
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
E: I know Gigabyte cards use the same 50A IR3553B's that their D3H+ boards use, the ones' that Cyro extols to the highest extent. E2: List of games: http://www.amd.com/radeonrewards | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On October 29 2013 16:01 iTzSnypah wrote: 'cheap' brands use reference PCB's which limit overclocking potential. The major brands have semi-custom or custom PCB's that sport more power phases, better VRM's ect... + Show Spoiler + :o Meaning the point of me getting a Sapphire 7970 is that I'm basically get a card that has better OC capability? Cool idea, makes sense for Radeon cards, but what about Nvidia cards with their somewhat limited OC capabilities? How could with this Zotac GTX 660 fare against MSI's version? http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=76364&vpn=ZT-60901-10M&manufacture=Zotac&promoid=1645 E: everyone loves gigabyte D3H. everyone. even I do and i've never even seen one. :p E2: eh those games are pretty decent I guess. dirt 3 is probably the only game in there i would play though Screw all that chit chat. So I got all the parts for that HTPC I was planning to build. I assembled everything and it works great. SSD is very fast, system is very responsive, it's a treat to work with. Sound card is ASUS Xonar DX with unity drivers (or something like). Hooked up to the already existing amp + speakers, my ears are melting. The sound is amazing, better than I expected. I can only imagine what more expensive equipment would do. That's not the point though, the problem is that the computer refuses to connect to the internet. We have an ethernet network throughout our home. When plugged in, the computer doesn't connect for some reason. I know the computer is the problem because I took my own desktop, brought to my parents' room, plugged it in and everything worked perfectly fine. I have already downloaded MSI's ethernet drivers from their website, it didn't work. Tried with the drivers that came with the CD, didn't work. Nothing I tried works, which is really fucking weird as my own desktop had absolutely no issues. :/ My desktop's motherboard is MSI's B85M-P33. The HTPC's motherboard is MSI's A75MA-P33. I find it really curious that for some reason the desktop works and the HTPC does not. Am I missing something? Is there something I should have done with our livebox to make it recognize the HTPC or something (I seriously don't remember doing anything particular with my own desktop, it was really install drivers and you're set up). My old computer has some old motherboard from a brand I didn't even recognize, this morning I cleaned it out and powered it back on for the fuck of it, and that old desktop connected to the internet in my parent's room. Why won't the new HTPC do so? Am so confused. Edit: Yeah and the A75MA uses Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller for its ethernet I think. | ||
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Banaora
Germany234 Posts
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