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With Canadian prices that's $1100 without the graphics card included, meaning it'd end up being $1550 with it... that's pretty high but I guess I can do it. Honestly I'm worrying too much about the price, I'm sure I'll love it when I finally start using it.
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fuck it set to US automatically
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On October 11 2015 08:34 Cyro wrote:
fuck it set to US automatically
Ya, I wish I could pay those prices but for some reason Canada gets fucked over on these things
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If you have a PC that is >5yrs old and works fluently. Do you prefer to buy a new PC or upgrading it or you keep it?
I am at this point and I dont know what to do. I really play only Blizzard games and I dont have any complains except that 200/200 sc2 battles are sometimes laggy for few seconds (including 3.0 patch).
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Well that entirely depends on what you're going to use the PC for in the first place.
If you're going to play old / light games and browse the web, then a 5 year old PC is fine (especially if it's 5 year old high end parts). If you're going to live-stream Starcraft 2 at 1080p60, then yeah you need to upgrade.
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Once you're into PC building i don't think there's such a thing as building a new system unless you want to start over completely fresh.
The only thing i have from my original system is a hard drive with multiple parts going through several iterations - if you make smart buying choices, you can re-use ssd's/hdd's, case, psu, parts like RAM or GPU.
Generally it's efficient to replace what you need when you need to replace it, rather than keeping stuff that's very slow for a long time and then replacing it with a bunch of other stuff that might not neccesarily need replacing.
I really play only Blizzard games and I dont have any complains except that 200/200 sc2 battles are sometimes laggy
I have a funny picture showing 100% load on one core of a 4770k @ 4.6ghz.. and 8% load on a gtx 770 during just standard midgame play at medium (competitive) settings. Sc2 is very easy on the GPU 
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I have a problem with the screen being black with cursor showing when launching windows, after deleting nvidia drivers. The mobo screen shows, however. Went like this:
After getting the latest driver required for star wars battlefront, the game crashed. Then I tried playing csgo, and it kept freezing when I joined a game. So I deleted nvidia drivers, except for audio/physicx because they didn't uninstall for some reason. I reinstalled the driver version I had before. Csgo still froze. So I finally deleted audio/physix, still froze. Then I reinstalled the same driver, this time with corresponding audio/physix. Still froze. Then I changed value.txt stuff, disabled multicore rendering, still froze. Then I deleted drivers, and restarted PC. This is when the screen went blank. I tried taking out and jumping CMOS, booting safe mode, booting with onboard gpu, cleaned PC, and even did the shift spam on blank screen and windows + u to try to get to control panel, as well as ctrl + alt + del. Any ideas on fixing it?
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What GPU would you upgrade to from GTX460 if switching from 1650X1080 to 1920X1080 and expecting to run modern titles (Witcher 3, Fallout 4, etc.) at reasonably high settings with good performance provided the budget is roughly $200.
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Hey guys, I'm looking to build my first actual PC soon. I have a general list of parts that I'm eyeing, and I'd like your input. The entire list I have is ~$900, but I'm wondering if there's any recommendations or ways I can cut costs as much as possible. I prefer to get the listed case and the CPU (heard lot of good reviews on this, along with the i5-4460, but I can get the 4590 for $160). As for all other parts, mainly the PSU, I'd like some advice.
What is your budget?
$900 ish, really want to minimize it if possible. Aiming for $800.
What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
1080p. Currently I just play LoL/SC2. However, with this new build I want to expand my gaming horizons to FPS and more graphics-intensive games.
Do you intend to overclock?
No.
Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
No.
Do you need an operating system?
Maybe. I may or may not be able to get a version of windows for free, and just upgrade from there if I can.
Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
Need everything, excluding mouse/keyboard/headphones.
What country will you be buying your parts in?
USA. I can access a Microcenter near me.
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6Ch8NG
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6Ch8NG/by_merchant/
CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($160.00)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.45 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 380 4GB Nitro Video Card ($213.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($68.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($93.75 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($29.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Acer G237HLbi 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $916.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-13 02:38 EDT-0400
Thanks.
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On October 13 2015 13:06 xeo1 wrote:
I have a problem with the screen being black with cursor showing when launching windows, after deleting nvidia drivers. The mobo screen shows, however. Went like this:
After getting the latest driver required for star wars battlefront, the game crashed. Then I tried playing csgo, and it kept freezing when I joined a game. So I deleted nvidia drivers, except for audio/physicx because they didn't uninstall for some reason. I reinstalled the driver version I had before. Csgo still froze. So I finally deleted audio/physix, still froze. Then I reinstalled the same driver, this time with corresponding audio/physix. Still froze. Then I changed value.txt stuff, disabled multicore rendering, still froze. Then I deleted drivers, and restarted PC. This is when the screen went blank. I tried taking out and jumping CMOS, booting safe mode, booting with onboard gpu, cleaned PC, and even did the shift spam on blank screen and windows + u to try to get to control panel, as well as ctrl + alt + del. Any ideas on fixing it?
It seems windows itself got screwed up while messing with drivers. Boot from windows cd (or usb) and try repair options maybe?
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On October 13 2015 15:00 Chaomantic wrote:
What GPU would you upgrade to from GTX460 if switching from 1650X1080 to 1920X1080 and expecting to run modern titles (Witcher 3, Fallout 4, etc.) at reasonably high settings with good performance provided the budget is roughly $200.
Depends what dollars those are. If it's USD then probably an r9 380 4GB.
above that point, 290 costs ~$250 new and requires better psu, airflow etc and 970 is probably bad price/performance
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Any ideas on fixing it?
Go safe mode. To remove them too, use safe mode - don't just uninstall
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On October 14 2015 02:24 mantequilla wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2015 13:06 xeo1 wrote:
I have a problem with the screen being black with cursor showing when launching windows, after deleting nvidia drivers. The mobo screen shows, however. Went like this:
After getting the latest driver required for star wars battlefront, the game crashed. Then I tried playing csgo, and it kept freezing when I joined a game. So I deleted nvidia drivers, except for audio/physicx because they didn't uninstall for some reason. I reinstalled the driver version I had before. Csgo still froze. So I finally deleted audio/physix, still froze. Then I reinstalled the same driver, this time with corresponding audio/physix. Still froze. Then I changed value.txt stuff, disabled multicore rendering, still froze. Then I deleted drivers, and restarted PC. This is when the screen went blank. I tried taking out and jumping CMOS, booting safe mode, booting with onboard gpu, cleaned PC, and even did the shift spam on blank screen and windows + u to try to get to control panel, as well as ctrl + alt + del. Any ideas on fixing it? It seems windows itself got screwed up while messing with drivers. Boot from windows cd (or usb) and try repair options maybe?
last good known config leads to blank screen, system restore says to continue remove media device even though nothing is plugged in besides peripherals/monitor. I have cracked win 7 on flash drive btw.
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On October 14 2015 05:53 Cyro wrote:Go safe mode. To remove them too, use safe mode - don't just uninstall
Safe mode is also blank with only cursor.
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On October 14 2015 10:23 xeo1 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2015 05:53 Cyro wrote:Any ideas on fixing it? Go safe mode. To remove them too, use safe mode - don't just uninstall Safe mode is also blank with only cursor.
The GPU driver isn't loaded in safe mode AFAIK so i'm not sure what to say other than shit be messed up yo
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On October 14 2015 05:00 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2015 15:00 Chaomantic wrote:
What GPU would you upgrade to from GTX460 if switching from 1650X1080 to 1920X1080 and expecting to run modern titles (Witcher 3, Fallout 4, etc.) at reasonably high settings with good performance provided the budget is roughly $200. Depends what dollars those are. If it's USD then probably an r9 380 4GB. above that point, 290 costs ~$250 new and requires better psu, airflow etc and 970 is probably bad price/performance
Yeah, I've been looking at R9 380 with 4 GB, particularly the Nitro offered by Sapphire. It seems to be competing with GTX 960 but, although I generally lean towards Nvidia solutions, it seems that AMD should have the upper hand here.
That said, I'm not entirely sure whether memory bus width is that relevant these days. It used to be back when I bought my current GPU, but now it seems it's not that big of a deal. I mean, GTX 960 has half the bus width of R9 380 but they appear to be relatively close in terms of gaming performance.
Also, there are 2Gb and 4Gb options available for both cards. How important is that parameter and how does it correlate with bandwidth?
Which of the two is less noisy? Or does this depend on specific manufacturer builds?
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Hey guys, a friend of mine want to buy a new pc and asked me to put something together for him.
His budget is about 1000€ and he needs it primarly for gaming.
So far I got the following parts
PCPartPicker
I really don't know which motherboard to choose, maybe you can help me out there.
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On October 14 2015 16:43 Chaomantic wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2015 05:00 Cyro wrote:On October 13 2015 15:00 Chaomantic wrote:
What GPU would you upgrade to from GTX460 if switching from 1650X1080 to 1920X1080 and expecting to run modern titles (Witcher 3, Fallout 4, etc.) at reasonably high settings with good performance provided the budget is roughly $200. Depends what dollars those are. If it's USD then probably an r9 380 4GB. above that point, 290 costs ~$250 new and requires better psu, airflow etc and 970 is probably bad price/performance Yeah, I've been looking at R9 380 with 4 GB, particularly the Nitro offered by Sapphire. It seems to be competing with GTX 960 but, although I generally lean towards Nvidia solutions, it seems that AMD should have the upper hand here. That said, I'm not entirely sure whether memory bus width is that relevant these days. It used to be back when I bought my current GPU, but now it seems it's not that big of a deal. I mean, GTX 960 has half the bus width of R9 380 but they appear to be relatively close in terms of gaming performance. Also, there are 2Gb and 4Gb options available for both cards. How important is that parameter and how does it correlate with bandwidth? Which of the two is less noisy? Or does this depend on specific manufacturer builds?
Depends on manufacturer.
Check techpowerup or guru3d, those are good sites for noise
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On October 14 2015 16:43 Chaomantic wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2015 05:00 Cyro wrote:On October 13 2015 15:00 Chaomantic wrote:
What GPU would you upgrade to from GTX460 if switching from 1650X1080 to 1920X1080 and expecting to run modern titles (Witcher 3, Fallout 4, etc.) at reasonably high settings with good performance provided the budget is roughly $200. Depends what dollars those are. If it's USD then probably an r9 380 4GB. above that point, 290 costs ~$250 new and requires better psu, airflow etc and 970 is probably bad price/performance Yeah, I've been looking at R9 380 with 4 GB, particularly the Nitro offered by Sapphire. It seems to be competing with GTX 960 but, although I generally lean towards Nvidia solutions, it seems that AMD should have the upper hand here. That said, I'm not entirely sure whether memory bus width is that relevant these days. It used to be back when I bought my current GPU, but now it seems it's not that big of a deal. I mean, GTX 960 has half the bus width of R9 380 but they appear to be relatively close in terms of gaming performance. Also, there are 2Gb and 4Gb options available for both cards. How important is that parameter and how does it correlate with bandwidth? Which of the two is less noisy? Or does this depend on specific manufacturer builds?
Nvidia's current architecture is more efficient with bandwidth so they get a lot done with 128, 256 or 384 bit - but the 128 bit GPU is still lower end. It has 1/3'rd of the performance of their 384 bit GPU if at comparable clock speeds - not just because it has 1/3'rd of the memory bandwidth, but because it has 1/3'rd of everything else too.
2GB vs 4GB doesn't change bandwidth as the same amount of memory chips are used and same bus width, they're just double density. It changes the VRAM capacity which is important for raising memory-intensive GPU settings; if you don't have enough VRAM, the game can stutter or turn into a slideshow. In 2015-2016, most graphically notable games will use quite a bit more than 2GB, many will use over 3GB and some require more than 4GB to max out textures and such, even on 1920x1080. You can usuallly turn down settings and get a lot less VRAM used so 3.5 - 4gb is nowhere near being a major problem in the near future but 2GB isn't really enough.
960 is probably better for noise overall but it depends a lot on the specific cooler that you choose and they're likely worse cost efficiency when looking at 4GB VRAM models. Both GPU's should be quiet when paired with a decent cooler
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I'm looking to upgrade gtx 460 to r9 380, but my psu is 430w so idk if it could handle it. I got i5 3570k, 8gb ram, 2tb HDD.
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