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When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-14 16:52:46
October 14 2015 16:52 GMT
#11041
On October 15 2015 01:13 xeo1 wrote:
I'm looking to upgrade gtx 460 to r9 380, but my psu is 430w so idk if it could handle it. I got i5 3570k, 8gb ram, 2tb HDD.



Should be fine as long as you have the correct pci-e power connectors
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
October 15 2015 01:34 GMT
#11042
On October 15 2015 01:52 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2015 01:13 xeo1 wrote:
I'm looking to upgrade gtx 460 to r9 380, but my psu is 430w so idk if it could handle it. I got i5 3570k, 8gb ram, 2tb HDD.



Should be fine as long as you have the correct pci-e power connectors


Not sure, I have the corsair 430cx v2, nonmodular.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
October 15 2015 02:42 GMT
#11043
Has one 6+2 connector but some 380's only use one connector i think, there is also the possibility of using an adapter (that's just not ideal). A 960 would also be an option
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-15 04:54:08
October 15 2015 03:19 GMT
#11044
On October 15 2015 11:42 Cyro wrote:
Has one 6+2 connector but some 380's only use one connector i think, there is also the possibility of using an adapter (that's just not ideal). A 960 would also be an option


Ok I read the 380 has a slight advantage fps wise in most games. But I'm not looking to replace the psu right now and the adapter won't cut it. Looks like I'll be going with EVGA CS 4gb, there are a lot of other options tho, not sure what would be best.

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Whisper-Graphics-02G-P4-2966-KR/dp/B00SC6HAS4/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1444878797&sr=1-1&keywords=gtx 960
Chaomantic
Profile Joined January 2011
20 Posts
October 15 2015 06:44 GMT
#11045
Btw, there's some bad rap going around in regard of the way AMD handles drivers for its GPUs. Is this really a frequent issue with their graphics?
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-15 06:58:28
October 15 2015 06:57 GMT
#11046
In terms of single card performance I don't think there's much of a difference. They've had some advantages over nvidia in places like dx12? support. Apparently their w10 drivers are also doing better.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
October 15 2015 07:09 GMT
#11047
On October 15 2015 15:44 Chaomantic wrote:
Btw, there's some bad rap going around in regard of the way AMD handles drivers for its GPUs. Is this really a frequent issue with their graphics?


There are CPU-bound performance problems because of poor optimization for CPU time on their dx11 driver that affects some games but is fairly limited. It just makes it so you'd only get an nvidia GPU if you play WoW, for example.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
October 15 2015 15:30 GMT
#11048
R9 270x refurbished at 99$, worth it?

I have a HD 7850
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-15 20:04:03
October 15 2015 16:22 GMT
#11049
On October 16 2015 00:30 XenOmega wrote:
R9 270x refurbished at 99$, worth it?

I have a HD 7850


A 270x is literally a 7870 with a different name written on the side so it's IMO not worth
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
October 15 2015 16:42 GMT
#11050
On October 16 2015 01:22 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2015 00:30 XenOmega wrote:
R9 270x refurbished at 99$, worth it?

I have a HD 7850


A 270x is literally a 7870 with a different name written on the site so it's IMO not worth



Thanks for the reply ^^
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
October 16 2015 00:35 GMT
#11051
What's the difference between those versions of the gtx 960 linked above? I was looking at the SC 4GB as it is the best price for 4GB, but it only has one fan and the there are other options, so I can't really decide.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-16 00:40:26
October 16 2015 00:39 GMT
#11052
On October 16 2015 09:35 xeo1 wrote:
What's the difference between those versions of the gtx 960 linked above? I was looking at the SC 4GB as it is the best price for 4GB, but it only has one fan and the there are other options, so I can't really decide.


It's a smaller card with a weaker cooler. It would probably need to be noisier than bigger dual fan cooler, though both are probably not a big issue with 960's being as low power GPU as they are.

Different cards may also have different voltages and power limits available which is worth looking into if you want to tweak the GPU yourself. Occasionally it even makes a difference at stock settings
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
October 16 2015 01:05 GMT
#11053
Not really looking to tweak it. Does the price difference justify the performance boost? There is a $40 difference between the lowest and highest 4GB versions.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
October 16 2015 02:38 GMT
#11054
They're probably pretty similar at stock settings. Even if OCing, the higher ones would probably be gaining convenience and luxury at the cost of a bit of performance/$.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
fusefuse
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Estonia4644 Posts
October 16 2015 14:48 GMT
#11055
Writing my first post from my freshly built PC, only took 3 hours with the goddamn cooler install being the most complicated thing to figure out :D Not bad for first build, even though there's still lots to do
Plenty of wiring and (HDD and possibly fan) positioning to reconfigure but damn
This thing's quiet, powerful and pretty (although my laptop is a pretty shit comparison for baseline anyway :D)
Time to see what it can do once i get the gfx drivers installed :0 And once stuffs dialed in and set, I'll hopefully look into OCing as well, currently running bone stock 3,1ghz with just XMP-1866 1.5V CL9 enabled
YUM
pictures of mess possibly soon, but already, big thanks to all the helpers from this thread over the (over 6 month) period that I put into putting this spec & build together, huge love
Liquipedia@jkursk
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
October 16 2015 15:12 GMT
#11056
Alright I boiled it down to the gigabyte gtx 960 2gb or the sapphire r9 380 4gb. The latter is only $15 more. But I'd need to replace the corsair cx430 v2 if I don't wanna play with an adapter, the disadvantages of which I don't even know. What to do?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-16 20:35:24
October 16 2015 18:24 GMT
#11057
I saw at least one 380 4GB that used a single 6+2 pin IIRC, but it was one of the smaller ones.

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New drivers from both sides
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
October 16 2015 22:28 GMT
#11058
On October 17 2015 03:24 Cyro wrote:
I saw at least one 380 4GB that used a single 6+2 pin IIRC, but it was one of the smaller ones.

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New drivers from both sides


I meant gtx 960 and r9 380 :D But I might just spend that extra $100 and get a higher one, either 970 or 390, in order to be able to play VR. It looks like 390 is better with the new driver, cheaper, and it's double the gigs. But I assume it would also have the pin problem with my corsair 430, requiring an adapter.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
October 16 2015 23:13 GMT
#11059
That benchmark was for other stuff~

A 390 would need a better PSU as the power consumption is way higher than a 380 / 970. 8GB of VRAM instead of 3.5GB is very relevant and they do seem to be performing quite well recently
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
October 16 2015 23:36 GMT
#11060
On October 17 2015 08:13 Cyro wrote:
That benchmark was for other stuff~

A 390 would need a better PSU as the power consumption is way higher than a 380 / 970. 8GB of VRAM instead of 3.5GB is very relevant and they do seem to be performing quite well recently


Could my psu handle the 970? And if I do go with the 390, what psu would you recommend?
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