EPTMonitor, keyboard, mouse, Windows.
Also, what in the laptop died? Depending on the answer above, you may have to consider salvaging the laptop's hard drive, if it still works, to make budget.
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Monitor, keyboard, mouse, Windows. Also, what in the laptop died? Depending on the answer above, you may have to consider salvaging the laptop's hard drive, if it still works, to make budget. | ||
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Puph
Canada635 Posts
According to Canada's PCPartsPicker, I'm gonna have to spend $100 unless something goes on sale. Thanks!! | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
On November 29 2014 15:02 Puph wrote: Quick question! Do old motherboards ever go on sale? Can I expect one to go on sale in Canada (or USA) this week? --> LGA 1155 Ivy Bridge, overclockable. According to Canada's PCPartsPicker, I'm gonna have to spend $100 unless something goes on sale. Thanks!! Almost never, if at all i think | ||
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GGman
Czech Republic143 Posts
based on your recommandations and suggestions, I've finalized my intended build. Its main purpose is gaming. Here is what I plan to purchase; would you change any parts? I should add that I would like to OC, is the MoBo sufficient for it? CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K MOBO: GIGABYTE Z97X-Gaming 5 RAM: Kingston 8GB KIT DDR3 2666MHz CL11 HyperX XMP Predator Series GPU: MSI R9 280 Gaming 3G PSU: Corsair HX620W Case: Zalman R1 HSF: GELID Solutions Tranquillo SSD: Intel 520 120GB SSD bulk HDD: Western Digital Blue 1000GB 64MB cache Thank you for feedback!  | ||
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Motlu
Australia884 Posts
On November 29 2014 13:42 Myrmidon wrote: Which of the following does the 600 AUD include? Monitor, keyboard, mouse, Windows. Also, what in the laptop died? Depending on the answer above, you may have to consider salvaging the laptop's hard drive, if it still works, to make budget. I have a mouse abd keyboard, just need a monitor and windows although I don't consider it a part of the $600. Including these acessories the total build price probably goes up $200 or so given I can get a student discout on windows. I was thinking on a smaller monitor for my needs, maybe a 20' one or something. Looking on Newegg these seem yo be around $150 currently although I haven't given it much thought yet. So long story short the $600 does not include any of what you listed and is just the pc's price without acessories. As for the laptop I have no idea what broke but it has been slowly dying a painful death for the last 6 months or so and frankly I consider it a blessing because now I finally have motivation to build a desktop for myself. It was a HP pavillion (5?) and all I know is that one day it suddenly would not turn on. How conplicated is the procedure for removing the Hard Drive from it? I don't really mind getting a new one but if it is easy I wouldn't pass up the chance to save a few bucks. Thanks for the great advice on this thread btw, will look into intel CPU's! I really want to squeeze in an i5 but its price makes this seem a little difficult :| Edit: how viable is overclocking for a newbie such as myself? Is it risky to attempt? | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
Removing the HDD should be easy as flipping the laptop over, looking for the HDD icon and using a screw driver to remove the cover and then taking out the HDD. That should save you some $50 on the HDD. If one day the laptop simply refused to turn on then it makes me think that something over than the HDD died, since it's possible to power on a computer without an HDD installed: it will just go straight to the BIOS since there is nothing to boot. i5 can be expensive for sure, I guess you could get by with an i3, it really depends on what you want to do with your rig. If you're only going to game I think it might not be a bad idea to drop down to an i3 so as to get a better video card. An i3 won't bottleneck a GPU all that much in most games, so it should be ok. Here's a build I did in 5 minutes to give you an idea: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/xcNpNG and yeah the power supply isn't one i would normally recommend however this PC's budget isn't huge, these are austrailian prices and modern budget units aren't that bad afaik; they won't blow up for instance. The best option I could find on pcpartpicker was Cooler Master V550S for $119, but it doesn't make sense to spend that much money on a PSU given this build's budget. | ||
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Westerhound
Finland69 Posts
Are the Sample builds still valid at the suggested US prices? What is your budget? 550€ What is your monitor's native resolution? 1920x1080 What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? Probably nothing too demanding. Dota2 and TF2 arent really demanding, but would be nice if it would be able to run some modern shooters with decent fps. What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? Nothing probably Do you intend to overclock? Considering the PC is going to my brother and I cant monitor temperatures and all that jazz Im not sure if I really can? Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire? No Do you need an operating system? No Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? No What country will you be buying your parts in? Somewhere EU probably. Finland is stupidly expensive so probably have to import. Last time I built a PC I used Hardwareversand but I dont know if theyre cheapest anymore. Budget obviously includes shipping (~40€?). | ||
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Puph
Canada635 Posts
CPU: i5 ivy bridge "k", stock clocks, 64 bit PSU: Corsair TX750 Case: Lian-Li PC-K62 Heatsink + fan: Noctua NH-D14 RAM: G-Skill Ripjaws 2x4 gig 1333 SSD: Crucial M4 128 gig HDD: Seagate Barracida 7200rpm 2 tb x2 Monitor: Acer s242HL Mobo: ASRock z77 extreme4 (replacing because no OC or iGPU options) GPU: Powercolor 7850 2 gig (replacing with r9 290 because it's artifacting) OS: Windows 7 Pro 64 bit According to this sorted list of mobos, http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/parts/motherboard/#s=14&sort=a7 , my only other options are: ASRock Z75 Pro3, ASRock Z77 Extreme3 and Gigabyte GA-Z77-HD4. Maybe another one further down the list if budget permits. Downgrading from Extreme4 to Extreme3 would be weird but I can try it. Replacing Extreme4 would be worrisome and expensive, $170. Thanks again! | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
Edit: http://www.cdiscount.com/informatique/cartes-graphiques/sapphire-amd-hd7970-3go-gddr5/f-107670509-111979790g.html#mpos=20|cd damn it to buy or not to buy. i could crossfire this edit 2: damn it, i've never seen this price / performance before: http://www.cdiscount.com/informatique/cartes-graphiques/sapphire-radeon-hd7850-2go-ddr5/f-107670509-sap4895106265684.html#mpos=15|cd http://www.cdiscount.com/informatique/cartes-graphiques/sapphire-amd-radeon-hd7870-oc-2go-gddr5/f-107670509-111999690g.html#mpos=13|cd getting rid of all the 7xxx series cards are we? | ||
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Puph
Canada635 Posts
screenie of missing onboard: http://imgur.com/AxcarP6 video proof of missing options: youtube.com/watch?v=mPikTbuRwIo (removed http://www due to auto imbed) It's ridiculous  edit: can I get an opinion on those mobos I listed 2 posts up? They all have relatively positive reviews and have almost as many features as my dying mobo. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
E: anyway besides being amazed at the prices i've decided not to touch those gpus. i don't need 'em, my mobo can't crossfire and my psu can't crossfire either | ||
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beefhamburger
United States3962 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25555 Posts
On November 30 2014 12:15 beefhamburger wrote: Any good deals on quality 500 gb SSDs? I'm in the market for one right now to transfer over from my non-SSD regular WD HDD. Samsung 840 Evo 500gb selling for $190 on Amazon, which is the lowest I've seen it: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-500GB-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-7TE500BW/dp/B00E3W19MO/ though I don't know if that counts as a deal per se | ||
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K3Nyy
United States1961 Posts
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Motlu
Australia884 Posts
On November 29 2014 21:10 Incognoto wrote: Overclocking isn't risky regardless of who you are as long as you have common sense. Monitor temperatures, don't be unreasonable with input voltage, read guides (there are some good ones). However unless you're overclocking a Pentium, there's not a lot to overclock at your price point from intel, and AMD processors aren't that recommended for gaming builds. Removing the HDD should be easy as flipping the laptop over, looking for the HDD icon and using a screw driver to remove the cover and then taking out the HDD. That should save you some $50 on the HDD. If one day the laptop simply refused to turn on then it makes me think that something over than the HDD died, since it's possible to power on a computer without an HDD installed: it will just go straight to the BIOS since there is nothing to boot. i5 can be expensive for sure, I guess you could get by with an i3, it really depends on what you want to do with your rig. If you're only going to game I think it might not be a bad idea to drop down to an i3 so as to get a better video card. An i3 won't bottleneck a GPU all that much in most games, so it should be ok. Here's a build I did in 5 minutes to give you an idea: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/xcNpNG and yeah the power supply isn't one i would normally recommend however this PC's budget isn't huge, these are austrailian prices and modern budget units aren't that bad afaik; they won't blow up for instance. The best option I could find on pcpartpicker was Cooler Master V550S for $119, but it doesn't make sense to spend that much money on a PSU given this build's budget. Thanks a lot for the reply! I have done a little research into using a laptop hdd in a pc and I've heard that it would be slower. Is this true?  Dropping ~$50 into a hard drive isn't the end of the world but saving money would be great.i do primarily plan on using this pc for gaming alongside the usual web browsing, stream/video watching and word processing. Would dropping down to an i5 have a significant impact on the pc's ability to run sc2 compared to a pc with an i5? I've heard that performance of either cpu would be similar for sc2, with the i5 only having the advantage of greater cache(?). I don't know How important is a more expensive graphics card for sc2? | ||
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Craton
United States17271 Posts
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On November 30 2014 13:37 Motlu wrote: Thanks a lot for the reply! I have done a little research into using a laptop hdd in a pc and I've heard that it would be slower. Is this true? Dropping ~$50 into a hard drive isn't the end of the world but saving money would be great.i do primarily plan on using this pc for gaming alongside the usual web browsing, stream/video watching and word processing. Would dropping down to an i5 have a significant impact on the pc's ability to run sc2 compared to a pc with an i5? I've heard that performance of either cpu would be similar for sc2, with the i5 only having the advantage of greater cache(?). I don't know How important is a more expensive graphics card for sc2? The biggest differences between an i3, i5 and i7 are the following (roughly speaking, there's stuff like cache and whatnot as well): i3 is a dual-core with hyperthreading i5 is a quad-core i7 is a quad-core with hyperthreading Now, the question is, what is hyperthreading ? Basically it makes one physical core act like two virtual cores. A core with hyperthreading will be able to take on multi-threaded tasks more easily: something like a 20% performance boost when the task is well-threaded. What is a well-threaded task? Stuff like encoding video (for streaming) or compiling programs. Most games (I say most because there are a few exceptions) do not take advantage of more than 4 physical cores and having few, faster cores is better. This is true especially for Starcraft 2, who is limited to only 1.5 cores. This is why a faster i3 will do better in SC2 than a slower i5. However, that i3 won't be able to stream as well as an i5. Likewise, the i5 is a bit more suited for gaming than the i7 since most games don't take advantage of hyper-threading and the i7 also carries a hefty premium. The i5 is the go-to processor for most gaming PCs but the i3, if it's clocked high enough, is also a solid choice (less so for a streaming / gaming rig). Having more physical cores is also nice if you're running lots of different programs at once. Of course, another important aspect to look at is the clockspeed for Haswell processors. You can't however compare AMD and Intel processors based on clockspeeds since the architecture is different. For SC2, you want the fastest possible intel processor. Normally you can do with with an overclocked i5 but that's kind of expensive. As for the graphics card, as craton said, it's not the biggest deal if your goal is to run starcraft 2, since that game is CPU bound. For GPU bound games (far cry games and things like that) though having a nice graphics card is actually quite nice. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
On November 30 2014 13:05 K3Nyy wrote: Do brands really matter? The sapphire r9 290 is out of stock on newegg and I was wondering if I should buy a cheaper brand for the card or not. If they matter, is there like a general consensus on the quality of the brands? It matters, but quite a few as usable as long as you're not using the reference cooler http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125505&cm_re=r9_290-_-14-125-505-_-Product ^pretty good at $240 AR | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
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