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When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
usedtocare
Profile Joined August 2013
United States243 Posts
November 28 2014 04:54 GMT
#8381
On November 28 2014 13:31 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 09:57 Kupon3ss wrote:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202099

I'm not big on brands but what about
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131570


Seems to have multiple complaints about the coil whine
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44256 Posts
November 28 2014 11:00 GMT
#8382
Samsung C230 Series S27C230B 27-Inch Screen LED-Lit Monitor on amazon for $170. Good price? Good monitor?
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Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3397 Posts
November 28 2014 11:22 GMT
#8383
My desktop PC is dead right now. I had it for over 7 years. I'm looking for a PC that can run SC2 and pretty much most games at decent to high quality. Are any of the PC builds in the following link good

http://www.ncix.com/article/Black-Friday-PC.htm

Corsair Carbide Series 200R case
AMD FX-6300 Six Core
ASUS M5A78L-M/USB3
Corsair Vengeance Blue 8GB
2x4GB DDR3-1600
ASUS Radeon R9 270X 2GB
HyperX Fury 120GB SSD
ASUS 24x Optical Drive
Corsair CX500 500W PSU
Windows 8.1 64-bit

Price is 789 CAD

Versus

Corsair Carbide Series 200R case
Intel Core i5 4690K
Corsair H60 Liquid Cooling
ASUS Z97-K/CSM
Corsair Vengeance Blue 8GB
2x4GB DDR3-1600
EVGA GeForce GTX 970 ACX 2.0 4GB
HyperX Fury 120GB SSD
ASUS 24x Optical Drive
Corsair CX600m 600W PSU
Windows 8.1 64-bit

Price is 1224 CAD

They have the options to basically upgrade anything.

김택용 Fighting!
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
November 28 2014 11:36 GMT
#8384
Well, first off the second option is way better than the first one, not even close. Secondly, try to get another PSU than the CX600M.
maru lover forever
Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
941 Posts
November 28 2014 12:31 GMT
#8385
A CX430M PSU is enough for a FX4300+GTX750 combination? If i posted in the wrong way ignore.
:3
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-28 12:34:19
November 28 2014 12:33 GMT
#8386
On November 28 2014 20:22 Yaqoob wrote:
My desktop PC is dead right now. I had it for over 7 years. I'm looking for a PC that can run SC2 and pretty much most games at decent to high quality. Are any of the PC builds in the following link good

http://www.ncix.com/article/Black-Friday-PC.htm

Corsair Carbide Series 200R case
AMD FX-6300 Six Core
ASUS M5A78L-M/USB3
Corsair Vengeance Blue 8GB
2x4GB DDR3-1600
ASUS Radeon R9 270X 2GB
HyperX Fury 120GB SSD
ASUS 24x Optical Drive
Corsair CX500 500W PSU
Windows 8.1 64-bit

Price is 789 CAD

Versus

Corsair Carbide Series 200R case
Intel Core i5 4690K
Corsair H60 Liquid Cooling
ASUS Z97-K/CSM
Corsair Vengeance Blue 8GB
2x4GB DDR3-1600
EVGA GeForce GTX 970 ACX 2.0 4GB
HyperX Fury 120GB SSD
ASUS 24x Optical Drive
Corsair CX600m 600W PSU
Windows 8.1 64-bit

Price is 1224 CAD

They have the options to basically upgrade anything.



Are you trying to do CPU overclocking? What other games and graphical settings are you trying to run? 1920x1080@60hz screen, also?

A CX430M PSU is enough for a FX4300+GTX750 combination? If i posted in the wrong way ignore.


Yes, whole system power consumption for that kind of system is only like 125w from the psu
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3397 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-28 15:15:20
November 28 2014 14:10 GMT
#8387
The screen would be 1920x1080. I would prefer the option of having dual screens at least. I'm not planning on buying the monitors right now.

Games I would like to run are dead soul, dragon age games, bio shock, crisis and random steam games.

Over Clocking is nice but I haven't done it before. I'm in USA for Black Friday right now so sorry about the vague post above.

I'm just wondering if the above builds are actually at a deal price or whether they are still overpriced.
김택용 Fighting!
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-28 15:21:48
November 28 2014 15:21 GMT
#8388
On November 28 2014 23:10 Yaqoob wrote:
The screen would be 1920x1080. I would prefer the option of having dual screens at least. I'm not planning on buying the monitors right now.

Games I would like to run are dead soul, dragon age games, bio shock, crisis and random steam games.

Over Clocking is nice but I haven't done it before. I'm in USA for Black Friday right now so sorry about the vague post above.

I'm just wondering if the above builds are actually at a deal price or whether they are still overpriced.


Build above is just kinda weird because it's a prebuilt config for overclocking (people who overclock cpu/gpu but don't know how to put parts together, what?) using some bad parts like a h60 and also super overkill but not particularly good quality psu
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
napalmion
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland96 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-28 16:42:33
November 28 2014 16:42 GMT
#8389
Hey I had this overclocked i5 4690(@4,6ghz)+z97x gaming 5 gigabyte MB and Im running at integrated gpu hd intel4600
my monitors died and Im running on crappy TV type thing so its time for me to buy monitor, I have good feeling on 34inch 3440x1440 21 : 9 ratio LG IPS panel / 60hz I know its not a great monitor for any pro or semi pro gaming but Im done with it and the only gaming I will propably be doing is some new RPGs maybe overwatch in the future and games like baldurs gate etc I want this monitor mostly for my Poker related work, some photography editing, browsing and watching streams, I need to get GPU also, r9 290x is at similar price as gtx970, what would be good gpu for me to get, should I aim for lower tier gpus given what I want to do? I dont actually mind spending money if its something awesome any recommendations are welcome
FEAR is your compass
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-28 17:45:42
November 28 2014 17:45 GMT
#8390
That res is ~2.4x as demanding as 1080p, so a 290/970 wouldn't be out of place, nor would 4GB of VRAM. Don't buy a 290x, performance is barely higher (~3% at the same clock speed) and price is way higher for no reason
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
napalmion
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland96 Posts
November 28 2014 18:55 GMT
#8391
thats sick, 290 is 357$ vs 446$ 290x seems like a big difference for 3%, does does it matter much what brand it is? MSI is cheapest, gigabyte/asus seem a little pricier
FEAR is your compass
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
November 28 2014 19:39 GMT
#8392
On November 29 2014 03:55 napalmion wrote:
thats sick, 290 is 357$ vs 446$ 290x seems like a big difference for 3%, does does it matter much what brand it is? MSI is cheapest, gigabyte/asus seem a little pricier


have a look at sapphire Tri-X or VaporX cards as well
maru lover forever
Sunnyvale
Profile Joined November 2014
14 Posts
November 28 2014 20:07 GMT
#8393
Hey guys, i'm pretty new to all this and have decided to finally build a pc. I have some friends who have done it for themselves before and helped me here and there put a build together and suggested i double check on this thread to get some other input before i buy anything. My budget is around $1000 for casual gaming on ultra settings. also i'm not looking to overclock. i appreciate any advice or input i could get on this build.


Case - NZXT Phantom PHAN Enthusiast ATX Full Tower - $99

Mother Board - ASRock H97M Pro4 LGA 1150 Intel H97 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s ATX Intel- $75

Graphics - ZOTAC ZT-90101-10P GeForce GTX 970 - $329

Processor - Intel 4690 i5 haswell - $224

Power Supply - CORSAIR CXM series CX600M 600W ATX12V - $53

SSD - Crucial MX100 CT256MX100SSD1 2.5" 256GB - $111

RAM - G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) - $54

Harddrive - Western Digital WD Blue WD10EZEX 1TB 64MB - $50

CD- ASUS DVD-Writer Black SATA Model DRW-24F1ST - OEM - $20



Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
November 28 2014 20:23 GMT
#8394
On November 29 2014 05:07 Sunnyvale wrote:
Hey guys, i'm pretty new to all this and have decided to finally build a pc. I have some friends who have done it for themselves before and helped me here and there put a build together and suggested i double check on this thread to get some other input before i buy anything. My budget is around $1000 for casual gaming on ultra settings. also i'm not looking to overclock. i appreciate any advice or input i could get on this build.


Case - NZXT Phantom PHAN Enthusiast ATX Full Tower - $99

Mother Board - ASRock H97M Pro4 LGA 1150 Intel H97 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s ATX Intel- $75

Graphics - ZOTAC ZT-90101-10P GeForce GTX 970 - $329

Processor - Intel 4690 i5 haswell - $224

Power Supply - CORSAIR CXM series CX600M 600W ATX12V - $53

SSD - Crucial MX100 CT256MX100SSD1 2.5" 256GB - $111

RAM - G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) - $54

Harddrive - Western Digital WD Blue WD10EZEX 1TB 64MB - $50

CD- ASUS DVD-Writer Black SATA Model DRW-24F1ST - OEM - $20




Everything looks fine, just get a 450W PSU instead, something like the rosewill capstone 450 or the XFX Pro 450W. Those are both better options for a build such as this one instead of the CX600M.
maru lover forever
Sunnyvale
Profile Joined November 2014
14 Posts
November 28 2014 23:07 GMT
#8395
On November 29 2014 05:23 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 05:07 Sunnyvale wrote:
Hey guys, i'm pretty new to all this and have decided to finally build a pc. I have some friends who have done it for themselves before and helped me here and there put a build together and suggested i double check on this thread to get some other input before i buy anything. My budget is around $1000 for casual gaming on ultra settings. also i'm not looking to overclock. i appreciate any advice or input i could get on this build.


Case - NZXT Phantom PHAN Enthusiast ATX Full Tower - $99

Mother Board - ASRock H97M Pro4 LGA 1150 Intel H97 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s ATX Intel- $75

Graphics - ZOTAC ZT-90101-10P GeForce GTX 970 - $329

Processor - Intel 4690 i5 haswell - $224

Power Supply - CORSAIR CXM series CX600M 600W ATX12V - $53

SSD - Crucial MX100 CT256MX100SSD1 2.5" 256GB - $111

RAM - G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) - $54

Harddrive - Western Digital WD Blue WD10EZEX 1TB 64MB - $50

CD- ASUS DVD-Writer Black SATA Model DRW-24F1ST - OEM - $20




Everything looks fine, just get a 450W PSU instead, something like the rosewill capstone 450 or the XFX Pro 450W. Those are both better options for a build such as this one instead of the CX600M.


THanks a lot, i'll start ordering the parts now then. Quick question though, the rosewill capstone 450 is the same price as the cxm 600w, is it better to have that little extra power or is the rosewill just a better built thing and will be better regardless of less power?
Melancholia
Profile Joined March 2010
United States717 Posts
November 28 2014 23:32 GMT
#8396
Hoy, just a small question this time. I'm looking for a power supply to recommend to my brother, I *do not* have the computer specs on hand but recall when I looked at the system that a 450W+ supply would cover it comfortably. The computer's got somewhat older parts and isn't booting properly, we're starting with a power supply replacement to try and get it to work. I'm just running into the usual problem of not actually knowing what constitutes a quality psu amidst all the holiday discounts right now. Any recommendations? We'll be buying as soon as possible, location is Seattle.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
November 28 2014 23:53 GMT
#8397
On November 29 2014 08:32 Melancholia wrote:
Hoy, just a small question this time. I'm looking for a power supply to recommend to my brother, I *do not* have the computer specs on hand but recall when I looked at the system that a 450W+ supply would cover it comfortably. The computer's got somewhat older parts and isn't booting properly, we're starting with a power supply replacement to try and get it to work. I'm just running into the usual problem of not actually knowing what constitutes a quality psu amidst all the holiday discounts right now. Any recommendations? We'll be buying as soon as possible, location is Seattle.


The PSU I've seen recommended, and that I use, is the Rosewill Capstone 450W
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
November 29 2014 00:20 GMT
#8398
Chiming in with Rosewill Capstone 450W love. I've got one in my system with an i5 and R9 280x, no issues and the power flows fine.

Reading through this thread, I've come to understand why PSU requirements get blown up but for most systems I think a Capstone works just fine. Unless you've got like quad-SLI 980s with an overclocked i7 and mad amounts of bling lighting/cooling.
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Motlu
Profile Joined August 2014
Australia884 Posts
November 29 2014 03:48 GMT
#8399
Hi, newbie here with a few questions.

So recently, my terrible laptop of 4 years died and I decided to build a desktop PC for the first time to replace it. I will be primarily playing SCII on this PC, with the occasional but very rare steam game. After reading about all the issues Starcraft faces with regards to frame rate and performance, I am quite concerned with choosing good parts that can give me the best experience for price.

I heard SCII is very CPU intensive but only uses 2 cores (not sure exactly what that means :S) so I was wondering what CPU's you would reccomend for a budget PC build around $600USD. I've only just started my PC building adventure and have done about 2 days worth of research, and I'm still quite confused about it all, so I apologize if I am missing vital information or being idiotic in my question.

Thanks!
-
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-29 04:33:04
November 29 2014 04:30 GMT
#8400
Pretty much anything intel is viable for sc2, starting from some of the lower priced haswell pentiums (around ~3ghz) - to either overclocked pentium or stock i3 depending on if you want to play with overclocking or not, to i5 price point above that, but that's probably not appropriate for you at 600 australian dollars for whole system

I would guess at the ~3.4ghz i3-4xxx to be among the best options for you, but hard to say exactly without knowing the state of the australian market. I have a hard time keeping semi up to date on UK, EU and US, so working with canadian dollars and some of the more expensive european countries can be difficult, australia is worse because prices are super high and all over the place

Also, don't worry too much about sc2 performance as long as you don't have a super old or an AMD CPU, the game was launched in 2010, engine designed years before that and even at the lowest price points you get 3ghz dual core of current intel architecture, it's probably faster at running sc2 than any CPU on the market at the time when sc2 launched. It's just mentioned because sc2 loves to run at 500fps early game and then 50fps with hundreds of units, even with the best CPU's
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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