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When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-09 23:45:41
July 09 2014 23:45 GMT
#6821
On July 10 2014 08:17 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 08:01 felisconcolori wrote:
Only thing I see in your build, MethodMan, to keep in mind is that your LG optical drive, while Bluray, will need additional software if you intent on watching movies using it. (Or, alternately, do what I do, which is immediately rip the movie and watch the rip.) Because Microsoft wants to save roughly $20 on the price of Windows by not licensing the Bluray codecs. It'll handle all the data needs, that's the only thing that you might stub your toe on.

Also, yes, get the 4690 if you want to spend the extra euro.


I'll just need it to burn the occasional CD/DVD. Updated the build:
HV20Y469DE Intel Core i5-4690 in-a-Box 192,74 €
HV1150USDE ASUS H97-PRO, Socket 1150, ATX 98,69 €
HV20CS93DE 8GB Corsair Vengeance blue PC3-12800U CL10-10-10-27 71,73 €
HV203CTKDE Cooltek K3 Evo 3.0 Midi Tower, ATX, black, no power-supply 38,45 €
HVR550XEDE Xilence Power ECO 550 Watt 40,27 €
HV1034SGDE Sapphire Radeon R9 270 Dual-X, 2GB GDDR5, 2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort, lite retail 155,99 €
HV13W1CBDE WD Blue 1TB 6Gb's 49,81 €
HV207GB4DE LG GH24NS bare black 12,68 €
HVZPCDE Assembly 29,99 €

Total: 690,35 €

I swapped the tower (i prefer having the frontal USB ports on the top-side), power supply (no real reason) and the CPU. Final build and gonna order within the next few days if nobody wants to speak up

Edit: I guess the H97 mainboard will do for an i5? Since the Z97 ones are notably more expensive.


As I understand it, the difference between the H and Z boards is that Z boards are more geared towards overclocking - which you'd need a "K" suffix processor for in any case alongside an aftermarket cooler. I'm sure Skyr, Ropid, Cyro, or any of the other blue posters will be able to break it down more if necessary, but the H97 should work as long as it has the features you are looking for.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Tokikong
Profile Joined March 2013
35 Posts
July 10 2014 00:52 GMT
#6822
Hey there ,

So lately I am getting really pissed off how slow my computer is.

I am currently using a phenom x4 945 and and AMD HD 5750.

I significantly drop under 30 FPS when I turn my sc2 ingame settings on medium when I am in the middle of a 1v1 game.

Im assuming that my CPU is holding my pc back.

Ive heard about the new Intel CPU G3258 which is pretty cheap.
Now my question is would I get beyond 60 frames with that CPU ?
Would it make a difference overall or is it my GPU that is holding my pc back ?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
July 10 2014 01:10 GMT
#6823
Put your physics and reflections off, effects low

g3258 would perform way better, sc2 doesn't run good on any hardware though. I dunno if you could get better performance with nvidia drivers or not
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Tokikong
Profile Joined March 2013
35 Posts
July 10 2014 01:23 GMT
#6824
On July 10 2014 10:10 Cyro wrote:
Put your physics and reflections off, effects low

g3258 would perform way better, sc2 doesn't run good on any hardware though. I dunno if you could get better performance with nvidia drivers or not


Yeah I usually do that , forgot to mention it.

I have everything turned to low besides the shaders. But still I don't get any more frames.



That seems pretty fluid to me , right?

And another question I am sorry if this doesnt belong here , when I turn my graphics to the above mentioned settings , my sc2 starts to get stalls per minute. Is there a way too fix that?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-10 03:41:54
July 10 2014 02:55 GMT
#6825
^That's only a ~stock Intel CPU.. yours should be worse but not like 3x worse i think

It's hard to judge performance from a camera that's adding motion blur on a 30fps video though
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
July 10 2014 11:17 GMT
#6826
Quick question, what thermal paste should I get?
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
July 10 2014 12:47 GMT
#6827
On July 10 2014 20:17 Jer99 wrote:
Quick question, what thermal paste should I get?

You know the CPU cooler comes with some and the GPU heatsink is preattached? If you're asking if something aftermarket might be slightly better, sure, but unless you're going after every last degree and MHz it should be fine.
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
July 10 2014 13:01 GMT
#6828
OK I just thought that the one that came with it was a low quality paste and thought it was worth buying a better kind
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
kaykaykay
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore637 Posts
July 10 2014 15:57 GMT
#6829
Dear computer building experts,
would any of you happen to know if the sample builds are outdated because I noticed the last updated was on Feb.
Also, do the prices translate well to the SEA region?
Starve the ego, feed the soul.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
July 10 2014 17:23 GMT
#6830
Yes they are (somewhat) and no they don't really
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 10 2014 18:41 GMT
#6831
I am updating them but Newegg went down in the process -_-
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
July 10 2014 19:34 GMT
#6832
which is weaker? amd phenom x6 1055t vs gforce gtx 460 oc 1gb.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 10 2014 19:35 GMT
#6833
What? Phenom X6 is a CPU and GTX 460 is a GPU. You can't compare the two.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
July 10 2014 19:39 GMT
#6834
On July 11 2014 04:34 Dingodile wrote:
which is weaker? amd phenom x6 1055t vs gforce gtx 460 oc 1gb.

Do you mean which one is your bottleneck?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
July 10 2014 19:57 GMT
#6835
Which one would limit FPS first depends on the game/program, settings, exactly what the software is doing at that time etc
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
July 10 2014 20:30 GMT
#6836
On July 11 2014 04:39 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2014 04:34 Dingodile wrote:
which is weaker? amd phenom x6 1055t vs gforce gtx 460 oc 1gb.

Do you mean which one is your bottleneck?

exactly. Mainboard is AsRock Extreme3. I play sc2, d3 on 1920x1080 but I have trouble about my pc if next sc2/d3 addon comes out.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-10 21:32:38
July 10 2014 21:31 GMT
#6837
You are probably just quite heavily CPU limited, i don't know about d3 in particular. You could upgrade to a Pentium g3258 or 4690k (OC) - or if you didn't want to overclock, a variety of Haswell cpu's
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
July 10 2014 21:34 GMT
#6838
This is what I'm upgrading from, my ram, GPU and everything else has been slightly upgraded but the processor stayed the same
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
July 10 2014 22:21 GMT
#6839
On July 11 2014 06:34 Jer99 wrote:
This is what I'm upgrading from, my ram, GPU and everything else has been slightly upgraded but the processor stayed the same


... Ouch.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-10 23:02:29
July 10 2014 23:01 GMT
#6840
That brings me back to the days of my 6400+. Which was... 2007?

Oh, actually that might've been my first custom PC, so 2005.
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