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When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
July 10 2014 23:33 GMT
#6841
What is your current build?
Uhhh... tell me if I did this right because I am a little retarded with computers.
Processor: AMD Sempron(tm) 145 Processor 2.80 GHz
RAM: 2.00 GB (1.75 GB usable)
64-bit operating system


What is your monitor's native resolution?
1920 x 1080

Why do you want to upgrade? What do you want to achieve with the upgrade?
Basically I got the cheapest computer I could make off of newegg + a pretty nice monitor I borrowed from a friend. I did this because the only games I play these days are Starcraft Broodwar and low requirement games off of steam. The problem is I can't stream well because my comp sucks so much and also I can't even run FTL or Kotor 1. I just want to have a system that can support streaming really well and can also allow me to play low requirement games or medium/higher requirement games on low settings.

What is your budget?
I can go as high as 400$ but I imagine this can be done much more cheaply.

What country will you be buying your parts in?
USA

If you have any brand or retailer preferences, please specify.
No xD
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-11 22:31:23
July 11 2014 22:20 GMT
#6842
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128709&cm_re=z97x-gaming-_-13-128-709-_-Product
^only $135 shipped atm (PSA)


puppykiller, not really sure waht to recommend - what do you have right now in terms of graphics? integrated graphics, or some kind of GPU etc (which?)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
July 11 2014 22:55 GMT
#6843
The parts came in! Going to build it probably tomorrow or the next day
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
lethal111
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada460 Posts
July 12 2014 05:12 GMT
#6844
Comparing the GTX 760 to the R9 270X is it worth it for the $70 upgrade for the 760 GTX?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 12 2014 05:37 GMT
#6845
If you care about AAA titles then probably yes.
ridic
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada52 Posts
July 12 2014 06:12 GMT
#6846
Hey guys,
can anyone tell me how much my old PC is worth? Thinking of putting it up for sale.
Specs:
E8400 oc'd to 3.9ghz with an after market heat sink, don't remember which
HD 5750
ASUS P5Q Pro ATX LGA775
Antec Sonata III Black ATX
4GB ram
500w psu
Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7200RPM 32MB

$150?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 12 2014 06:25 GMT
#6847
Something like that, maybe a bit higher depending on power supply and heatsink.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
July 12 2014 06:27 GMT
#6848
Eh, I guess it depends who you're selling it too. If you have a friend who knows you treated the computer well you could sell it for a bit more. IMO don't sell the drive with it since the drive has your data on it.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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ridic
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada52 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-12 06:32:49
July 12 2014 06:27 GMT
#6849
Heatsink was $30, power supply is an earthwatts that came with the case.


On July 12 2014 15:27 Blazinghand wrote:
Eh, I guess it depends who you're selling it too. If you have a friend who knows you treated the computer well you could sell it for a bit more. IMO don't sell the drive with it since the drive has your data on it.


I'll just format it. Would that not delete everything?
pogy
Profile Joined February 2012
Croatia13 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-12 07:42:25
July 12 2014 07:39 GMT
#6850
Hello again tech wizards,

2 years ago I build my PC based on your recommendations and I was super happy with it.
Now is time to update it a bit so can you recommend me parts that need upgrading?

This is my current build [image loading]

For some it does not show that the CPU is overclocked at 4.2GHz and I am using a Cooler Master hyper 412s cooler.
The RAM are G-skill 8GB ripjaws. I dont know if this RAM timing are ok or if they do effect performance in any way.

I play all games, SC2, lol, dota2 + all the new games. I dont stream. So I just want to up-to-date PC with best value for money parts.

My budget would be about 200-300 euros.
Thanks in advance

Edit: Forgot to post my power supply. Its the CX430 corsair and I am not happy with it because for some reason it makes a coil whine noise when the PC is turned off
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
July 12 2014 08:30 GMT
#6851
On July 12 2014 15:27 ridic wrote:
Heatsink was $30, power supply is an earthwatts that came with the case.


Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 15:27 Blazinghand wrote:
Eh, I guess it depends who you're selling it too. If you have a friend who knows you treated the computer well you could sell it for a bit more. IMO don't sell the drive with it since the drive has your data on it.


I'll just format it. Would that not delete everything?

You need the format that's slow and takes forever to complete. That one will overwrite everything with zero.

You need to make sure to not use the "quick-format" that's instantly done. You also can't just delete the partitions.

+ Show Spoiler +
On a drive that's wiped with quick-format or where the partitions were removed, the data can be restored to pretty much exactly like it was before the format. A good amount of people know how to do this because it can be done through rescue tools, and people know those tools from a time they lost everything by mistake, and everyone makes a mistake like that over the years.

If you want to be super sure, there's "secure erase" software that can overwrite the drive multiple times with changing numbers (not just zero). Software like that should be on the various rescue tool boot discs that exist like "Hiren's Boot CD".
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
kaykaykay
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore637 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-12 09:58:50
July 12 2014 09:55 GMT
#6852
On July 11 2014 03:41 skyR wrote:
I am updating them but Newegg went down in the process -_-


cool, looking forward to your builds!
Starve the ego, feed the soul.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-12 11:39:48
July 12 2014 11:34 GMT
#6853
I play all games, SC2, lol, dota2 + all the new games. I dont stream. So I just want to up-to-date PC with best value for money parts.


soo.. you want to buy a new graphics card? Not much else to buy.

Which of 6800 series exactly do you have and what are you trying to do that you can't do? (or aim for in the future?)

You should probably push CPU overclock some, 4.2ghz is very low for a 2500k (i get ranted at quite often about how 4.5-4.7ghz is too low of an OC because 2500k's clocked 300mhz higher all the time, which isn't really true but should give you an idea of peoples expectations for those CPU's..)


For GPU, if you bought now, we're still on the same tech from 2.5 years ago. There will likely be a decent new GPU to buy in the fall, but it might be later than that. In terms of CPU upgrades, there's stuff better than 2500k if you buy a new motherboard, but nothing to blow it away so people generally don't upgrade unless they really want that last 10% performance or want to add hyperthreading too (which probably doesn't help you much if at all). We'll have next architecture release (2 onwards from sandy bridge, instead of just 1) in ~mid 2015, with DDR4 RAM too
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
July 12 2014 12:52 GMT
#6854
On July 12 2014 07:20 Cyro wrote:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128709&cm_re=z97x-gaming-_-13-128-709-_-Product
^only $135 shipped atm (PSA)


puppykiller, not really sure waht to recommend - what do you have right now in terms of graphics? integrated graphics, or some kind of GPU etc (which?)



I have an integrated graphics card, device manager says "AMD 760G"
I dont want to build a whole new comp, thats not in my budget, I just want my comp to lag less lol. And I want to stream better and play some more videogames
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
July 12 2014 15:22 GMT
#6855
On July 12 2014 21:52 puppykiller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 07:20 Cyro wrote:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128709&cm_re=z97x-gaming-_-13-128-709-_-Product
^only $135 shipped atm (PSA)


puppykiller, not really sure waht to recommend - what do you have right now in terms of graphics? integrated graphics, or some kind of GPU etc (which?)



I have an integrated graphics card, device manager says "AMD 760G"
I dont want to build a whole new comp, thats not in my budget, I just want my comp to lag less lol. And I want to stream better and play some more videogames


Well you have problem of everything being terrible

your cpu is terrible and am3 is old+dead, i don't know much about it. 2GB of RAM with windows 7 isn't nearly enough, 4gb is really a minimum (and limiting sometimes) - and then you don't have a GPU, or likely a good power supply etc. It's hard to know where to start
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
July 12 2014 15:24 GMT
#6856
My friend seems to insist that if I just get a good graphics card things should work out ok.
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-12 15:37:11
July 12 2014 15:34 GMT
#6857
On July 13 2014 00:24 puppykiller wrote:
My friend seems to insist that if I just get a good graphics card things should work out ok.


You have an ancient low end CPU - some of the cheapest CPU's around today, like the worst you can really buy, are ~3x faster at stock settings (Intel's ~$50 Haswell Pentium's) - 2gb of RAM will limit the stuff you can run so much that it's not even worth bothering if you don't change that.

You could get a gtx750 but it wouldn't be a miracle fix.

Curious as to what power supply model and case you have
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
pogy
Profile Joined February 2012
Croatia13 Posts
July 12 2014 16:32 GMT
#6858
I have the sapphire 6850 GPU. I like to play at high/ultra most of the time and when i don't get at least 60fps i start to think about an upgrade. Like now the new assassin's creed, bf4, witcher 3 are somewhere around that.
So in the future i think that my GPU will bottleneck even more. But if you think that I should wait some more for new cards to arrive I will.

I don't have much experience in overclocking but I will try to get it to at least 4.5GHz. At this OC(4.2) my temps never get more that 65C when testing with prime95 so this gives me enough room to push it more?

Buying a new motherboard + CPU are probably to much money for not that much in performance for my needs. Even thou new motherboards look much cooler XD

Thank you Cyro for a fast replay and good adivce
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-12 16:38:23
July 12 2014 16:37 GMT
#6859
On July 13 2014 01:32 pogy wrote:
I have the sapphire 6850 GPU. I like to play at high/ultra most of the time and when i don't get at least 60fps i start to think about an upgrade. Like now the new assassin's creed, bf4, witcher 3 are somewhere around that.
So in the future i think that my GPU will bottleneck even more. But if you think that I should wait some more for new cards to arrive I will.

I don't have much experience in overclocking but I will try to get it to at least 4.5GHz. At this OC(4.2) my temps never get more that 65C when testing with prime95 so this gives me enough room to push it more?

Buying a new motherboard + CPU are probably to much money for not that much in performance for my needs. Even thou new motherboards look much cooler XD

Thank you Cyro for a fast replay and good adivce


There will very likely be like a gtx 860/870 to upgrade to before witcher 3 (late feb 2015), for cpu, you just might be able to get another ~5-10% with current hardware

np


Ya, you have lots of room to improve if they replace 780ti with 880 - http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1077?vs=1072
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Bruzz
Profile Joined July 2014
Norway2 Posts
July 12 2014 17:56 GMT
#6860
upgradeability would be my biggest concern.




What is your budget?

between 900 and 1300$

What is your monitor's native resolution?

want to use 1080p

What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?

League of Legends, max

What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?

facebook

Do you intend to overclock?

no

Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?

if it will be cheaper

Do you need an operating system?

yes

Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?

yes monitor, and a mechanical keyboard

If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.

none.

What country will you be buying your parts in?

I will be buying from Norway, no preference where I buy the parts.

If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.

none.

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