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Thanks skyR, input was very much appreciated. I replaced both the SSD and the ram with what u gave me, comes out to
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On July 07 2014 13:44 lethal111 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2014 11:01 skyR wrote:On July 07 2014 09:18 lethal111 wrote:So its been awhile since i last posted in this thread, but right now I am in a financial position to build a new pc, and was just looking to test out the waters. So here is the build I am looking at, nothing is set in stone yet. I also want to keep it under 1500. + Show Spoiler +Corsair Hyro Series H60 http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX42392 69.99, price matched to 57.49 MSI GeForce 760GTX http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX46634 299.99 Asus 24x DVD-RW Drive, SATA, OEM, Black http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45542 19.99 NZXT H440 ATX Mid Tower Case, White http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX51620 129.99 price matched at 117.49 Seagate 2TB Desktop HDD SATA III w/ 64MB Cache http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX36934 89.99 840 EVO Series Solid State Drive, SATA III, 2.5in, 120GB http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX47586 94.99 EVGA 600B 600W Bronze Power Supply http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX47882 79.99 with price match 61.24 HyperX FURY Black 8GB DDR3-1600MHz CL10 Dual Channel Kit (2x 4GB) http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX51495 94.44 Core™ i5-4670K Processor, 3.40GHz w/ 6MB Cache http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45429 269.99 Z87-PRO w/ Dual DDR3 1600, 7.1 Audio, Gigabit Lan, WiFi, BT, SLI / 3-Way CrossFireX http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45852 219.99 with price match 207.49 All together comes to $1,379.33 with GST. And I dont need shipping, as I can just pick up in store. NZXT H440 does not have space for an optical drive so if you want an optical drive, you'll need a different case. Core i5 4670k can be pricematched. $95 for 1600MHz cas10 is really bad. A $200 motherboard is unnecessary especially when your other components are somewhat lacking in comparison. Get a ~$140ish motherboard and spend the extra money on a ~250GB SSD and possibly a better power supply / heatsink. Noctua NH-U14S is a better choice than the Corsair H60. GTX 760 should be around ~$260. If you want to spend $300+, I'd start considering the R9 280x or GTX 770. So i have replaced the things you have told, other than the RAM and GFX, as i looked at most retailers and they were all about the same Canadian price. So i have replaced the mobo, the SSD and the heatsink (Noctua NH-U14S). Price matched the i5 to 244.95 + Show Spoiler +
The z97x-gaming 3 is a 4-phase board, you should get the z97x-gaming 5 - http://www.ncix.com/detail/gigabyte-z97x-gaming-5-atx-lga1150-65-96896-1060.htm?affiliateid=7474144
That's $159.99 ($149.99 AR) with free shipping today, grab it quick if you can!
If not that, then this lists quite a few boards far below $150 - http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/parts/motherboard/#c=99&m=8,18&sort=a7
http://sinhardware.com/images/vrmlist.png
BTW guys, for those in the UK - OCUK has been trolling some with GPU prices again recently. r7 265 for like £80 once, and now r9 280 (rebranded 7850) for £150. Feels a bit like that period before with crazy price drops everywhere, but nvidia prices are falling too (so no more 7970 for under 2/3'rds the price of 770 situations)
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On July 07 2014 15:09 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2014 13:44 lethal111 wrote:On July 07 2014 11:01 skyR wrote:On July 07 2014 09:18 lethal111 wrote:So its been awhile since i last posted in this thread, but right now I am in a financial position to build a new pc, and was just looking to test out the waters. So here is the build I am looking at, nothing is set in stone yet. I also want to keep it under 1500. + Show Spoiler +Corsair Hyro Series H60 http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX42392 69.99, price matched to 57.49 MSI GeForce 760GTX http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX46634 299.99 Asus 24x DVD-RW Drive, SATA, OEM, Black http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45542 19.99 NZXT H440 ATX Mid Tower Case, White http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX51620 129.99 price matched at 117.49 Seagate 2TB Desktop HDD SATA III w/ 64MB Cache http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX36934 89.99 840 EVO Series Solid State Drive, SATA III, 2.5in, 120GB http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX47586 94.99 EVGA 600B 600W Bronze Power Supply http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX47882 79.99 with price match 61.24 HyperX FURY Black 8GB DDR3-1600MHz CL10 Dual Channel Kit (2x 4GB) http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX51495 94.44 Core™ i5-4670K Processor, 3.40GHz w/ 6MB Cache http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45429 269.99 Z87-PRO w/ Dual DDR3 1600, 7.1 Audio, Gigabit Lan, WiFi, BT, SLI / 3-Way CrossFireX http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45852 219.99 with price match 207.49 All together comes to $1,379.33 with GST. And I dont need shipping, as I can just pick up in store. NZXT H440 does not have space for an optical drive so if you want an optical drive, you'll need a different case. Core i5 4670k can be pricematched. $95 for 1600MHz cas10 is really bad. A $200 motherboard is unnecessary especially when your other components are somewhat lacking in comparison. Get a ~$140ish motherboard and spend the extra money on a ~250GB SSD and possibly a better power supply / heatsink. Noctua NH-U14S is a better choice than the Corsair H60. GTX 760 should be around ~$260. If you want to spend $300+, I'd start considering the R9 280x or GTX 770. So i have replaced the things you have told, other than the RAM and GFX, as i looked at most retailers and they were all about the same Canadian price. So i have replaced the mobo, the SSD and the heatsink (Noctua NH-U14S). Price matched the i5 to 244.95 + Show Spoiler + The z97x-gaming 3 is a 4-phase board, you should get the z97x-gaming 5 - http://www.ncix.com/detail/gigabyte-z97x-gaming-5-atx-lga1150-65-96896-1060.htm?affiliateid=7474144That's $159.99 ($149.99 AR) with free shipping today, grab it quick if you can! If not that, then this lists quite a few boards far below $150 - http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/parts/motherboard/#c=99&m=8,18&sort=a7http://sinhardware.com/images/vrmlist.pngBTW guys, for those in the UK - OCUK has been trolling some with GPU prices again recently. r7 265 for like £80 once, and now r9 280 (rebranded 7850) for £150. Feels a bit like that period before with crazy price drops everywhere, but nvidia prices are falling too (so no more 7970 for under 2/3'rds the price of 770 situations)
haha forgot to mention, i replced the original board with the Z97X for the same price at ME, so i dont need the shipping as i can pick everything up! Thanks though. Also i am picking up the Silverstone Strider Essential 600W Power Supply http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX32274 for 64.99
edit: included psu
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On July 08 2014 00:56 lethal111 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2014 15:09 Cyro wrote:On July 07 2014 13:44 lethal111 wrote:On July 07 2014 11:01 skyR wrote:On July 07 2014 09:18 lethal111 wrote:So its been awhile since i last posted in this thread, but right now I am in a financial position to build a new pc, and was just looking to test out the waters. So here is the build I am looking at, nothing is set in stone yet. I also want to keep it under 1500. + Show Spoiler +Corsair Hyro Series H60 http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX42392 69.99, price matched to 57.49 MSI GeForce 760GTX http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX46634 299.99 Asus 24x DVD-RW Drive, SATA, OEM, Black http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45542 19.99 NZXT H440 ATX Mid Tower Case, White http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX51620 129.99 price matched at 117.49 Seagate 2TB Desktop HDD SATA III w/ 64MB Cache http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX36934 89.99 840 EVO Series Solid State Drive, SATA III, 2.5in, 120GB http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX47586 94.99 EVGA 600B 600W Bronze Power Supply http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX47882 79.99 with price match 61.24 HyperX FURY Black 8GB DDR3-1600MHz CL10 Dual Channel Kit (2x 4GB) http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX51495 94.44 Core™ i5-4670K Processor, 3.40GHz w/ 6MB Cache http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45429 269.99 Z87-PRO w/ Dual DDR3 1600, 7.1 Audio, Gigabit Lan, WiFi, BT, SLI / 3-Way CrossFireX http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45852 219.99 with price match 207.49 All together comes to $1,379.33 with GST. And I dont need shipping, as I can just pick up in store. NZXT H440 does not have space for an optical drive so if you want an optical drive, you'll need a different case. Core i5 4670k can be pricematched. $95 for 1600MHz cas10 is really bad. A $200 motherboard is unnecessary especially when your other components are somewhat lacking in comparison. Get a ~$140ish motherboard and spend the extra money on a ~250GB SSD and possibly a better power supply / heatsink. Noctua NH-U14S is a better choice than the Corsair H60. GTX 760 should be around ~$260. If you want to spend $300+, I'd start considering the R9 280x or GTX 770. So i have replaced the things you have told, other than the RAM and GFX, as i looked at most retailers and they were all about the same Canadian price. So i have replaced the mobo, the SSD and the heatsink (Noctua NH-U14S). Price matched the i5 to 244.95 + Show Spoiler + The z97x-gaming 3 is a 4-phase board, you should get the z97x-gaming 5 - http://www.ncix.com/detail/gigabyte-z97x-gaming-5-atx-lga1150-65-96896-1060.htm?affiliateid=7474144That's $159.99 ($149.99 AR) with free shipping today, grab it quick if you can! If not that, then this lists quite a few boards far below $150 - http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/parts/motherboard/#c=99&m=8,18&sort=a7http://sinhardware.com/images/vrmlist.pngBTW guys, for those in the UK - OCUK has been trolling some with GPU prices again recently. r7 265 for like £80 once, and now r9 280 (rebranded 7850) for £150. Feels a bit like that period before with crazy price drops everywhere, but nvidia prices are falling too (so no more 7970 for under 2/3'rds the price of 770 situations) haha forgot to mention, i replced the original board with the Z97X for the same price at ME, so i dont need the shipping as i can pick everything up! Thanks though. Also i am picking up the Silverstone Strider Essential 600W Power Supply http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX32274 for 64.99 edit: included psu
As well as free shipping, it had like $20 off for a day.
For PSU - that PSU only supplies ~504w on 12v, and it's 80+ rated, not 80+ bronze etc. It's probably an ok unit, but there might be something better available
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What is your budget?
$1000 - $1200 (I'd like to keep the budget around here if possible as I currently only have about $1600 to work with)
What is your monitor's native resolution?
1600x900, but I may consider buying a 1920x1080 monitor.
What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
I intend to play Hearthstone, DayZ, Diablo 3, World of Warcraft, and games that have very large maps and are quite CPU intensive similar to DayZ (Rust, GTA4, etc). I'd like to play all of these games at their highest settings and achieve an FPS rate of 30 - 40 or better if that's possible within the budget (if not, going a little over the budget is acceptable to achieve this as this is what I want most and would be willing to spend a little extra for it).
What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
I want this computer to be able to not only play the games, but be capable of streaming them at the same time as I want to be able to have a good gaming computer for consistent streaming.
Do you intend to overclock?
No.
Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
No, unless it's recommended for my needs.
Do you need an operating system?
No.
Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
I will likely be buying a monitor myself, if not using the ones I already have available to me (1600x900 resolution). So this is not included in the budget.
If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
I prefer Nvidia for graphics cards. Everything else I have no preference with, I just would like whatever is optimal.
What country will you be buying your parts in?
I'll likely be ordering from Newegg. I live in the US though.
If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
http://www.newegg.com/
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On July 08 2014 02:02 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 00:56 lethal111 wrote:On July 07 2014 15:09 Cyro wrote:On July 07 2014 13:44 lethal111 wrote:On July 07 2014 11:01 skyR wrote:On July 07 2014 09:18 lethal111 wrote:So its been awhile since i last posted in this thread, but right now I am in a financial position to build a new pc, and was just looking to test out the waters. So here is the build I am looking at, nothing is set in stone yet. I also want to keep it under 1500. + Show Spoiler +Corsair Hyro Series H60 http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX42392 69.99, price matched to 57.49 MSI GeForce 760GTX http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX46634 299.99 Asus 24x DVD-RW Drive, SATA, OEM, Black http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45542 19.99 NZXT H440 ATX Mid Tower Case, White http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX51620 129.99 price matched at 117.49 Seagate 2TB Desktop HDD SATA III w/ 64MB Cache http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX36934 89.99 840 EVO Series Solid State Drive, SATA III, 2.5in, 120GB http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX47586 94.99 EVGA 600B 600W Bronze Power Supply http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX47882 79.99 with price match 61.24 HyperX FURY Black 8GB DDR3-1600MHz CL10 Dual Channel Kit (2x 4GB) http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX51495 94.44 Core™ i5-4670K Processor, 3.40GHz w/ 6MB Cache http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45429 269.99 Z87-PRO w/ Dual DDR3 1600, 7.1 Audio, Gigabit Lan, WiFi, BT, SLI / 3-Way CrossFireX http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45852 219.99 with price match 207.49 All together comes to $1,379.33 with GST. And I dont need shipping, as I can just pick up in store. NZXT H440 does not have space for an optical drive so if you want an optical drive, you'll need a different case. Core i5 4670k can be pricematched. $95 for 1600MHz cas10 is really bad. A $200 motherboard is unnecessary especially when your other components are somewhat lacking in comparison. Get a ~$140ish motherboard and spend the extra money on a ~250GB SSD and possibly a better power supply / heatsink. Noctua NH-U14S is a better choice than the Corsair H60. GTX 760 should be around ~$260. If you want to spend $300+, I'd start considering the R9 280x or GTX 770. So i have replaced the things you have told, other than the RAM and GFX, as i looked at most retailers and they were all about the same Canadian price. So i have replaced the mobo, the SSD and the heatsink (Noctua NH-U14S). Price matched the i5 to 244.95 + Show Spoiler + The z97x-gaming 3 is a 4-phase board, you should get the z97x-gaming 5 - http://www.ncix.com/detail/gigabyte-z97x-gaming-5-atx-lga1150-65-96896-1060.htm?affiliateid=7474144That's $159.99 ($149.99 AR) with free shipping today, grab it quick if you can! If not that, then this lists quite a few boards far below $150 - http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/parts/motherboard/#c=99&m=8,18&sort=a7http://sinhardware.com/images/vrmlist.pngBTW guys, for those in the UK - OCUK has been trolling some with GPU prices again recently. r7 265 for like £80 once, and now r9 280 (rebranded 7850) for £150. Feels a bit like that period before with crazy price drops everywhere, but nvidia prices are falling too (so no more 7970 for under 2/3'rds the price of 770 situations) haha forgot to mention, i replced the original board with the Z97X for the same price at ME, so i dont need the shipping as i can pick everything up! Thanks though. Also i am picking up the Silverstone Strider Essential 600W Power Supply http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX32274 for 64.99 edit: included psu As well as free shipping, it had like $20 off for a day. For PSU - that PSU only supplies ~504w on 12v, and it's 80+ rated, not 80+ bronze etc. It's probably an ok unit, but there might be something better available
I was gonna get the
EVGA's SuperNOVA 650 G Modular Power Supply for 94.44 it's a gold plus and a fully modular psu and my case isn't affected by the handle, but the handle is such a turn off for it though http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX52210
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On July 08 2014 06:52 lethal111 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 02:02 Cyro wrote:On July 08 2014 00:56 lethal111 wrote:On July 07 2014 15:09 Cyro wrote:On July 07 2014 13:44 lethal111 wrote:On July 07 2014 11:01 skyR wrote:On July 07 2014 09:18 lethal111 wrote:So its been awhile since i last posted in this thread, but right now I am in a financial position to build a new pc, and was just looking to test out the waters. So here is the build I am looking at, nothing is set in stone yet. I also want to keep it under 1500. + Show Spoiler +Corsair Hyro Series H60 http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX42392 69.99, price matched to 57.49 MSI GeForce 760GTX http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX46634 299.99 Asus 24x DVD-RW Drive, SATA, OEM, Black http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45542 19.99 NZXT H440 ATX Mid Tower Case, White http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX51620 129.99 price matched at 117.49 Seagate 2TB Desktop HDD SATA III w/ 64MB Cache http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX36934 89.99 840 EVO Series Solid State Drive, SATA III, 2.5in, 120GB http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX47586 94.99 EVGA 600B 600W Bronze Power Supply http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX47882 79.99 with price match 61.24 HyperX FURY Black 8GB DDR3-1600MHz CL10 Dual Channel Kit (2x 4GB) http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX51495 94.44 Core™ i5-4670K Processor, 3.40GHz w/ 6MB Cache http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45429 269.99 Z87-PRO w/ Dual DDR3 1600, 7.1 Audio, Gigabit Lan, WiFi, BT, SLI / 3-Way CrossFireX http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45852 219.99 with price match 207.49 All together comes to $1,379.33 with GST. And I dont need shipping, as I can just pick up in store. NZXT H440 does not have space for an optical drive so if you want an optical drive, you'll need a different case. Core i5 4670k can be pricematched. $95 for 1600MHz cas10 is really bad. A $200 motherboard is unnecessary especially when your other components are somewhat lacking in comparison. Get a ~$140ish motherboard and spend the extra money on a ~250GB SSD and possibly a better power supply / heatsink. Noctua NH-U14S is a better choice than the Corsair H60. GTX 760 should be around ~$260. If you want to spend $300+, I'd start considering the R9 280x or GTX 770. So i have replaced the things you have told, other than the RAM and GFX, as i looked at most retailers and they were all about the same Canadian price. So i have replaced the mobo, the SSD and the heatsink (Noctua NH-U14S). Price matched the i5 to 244.95 + Show Spoiler + The z97x-gaming 3 is a 4-phase board, you should get the z97x-gaming 5 - http://www.ncix.com/detail/gigabyte-z97x-gaming-5-atx-lga1150-65-96896-1060.htm?affiliateid=7474144That's $159.99 ($149.99 AR) with free shipping today, grab it quick if you can! If not that, then this lists quite a few boards far below $150 - http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/parts/motherboard/#c=99&m=8,18&sort=a7http://sinhardware.com/images/vrmlist.pngBTW guys, for those in the UK - OCUK has been trolling some with GPU prices again recently. r7 265 for like £80 once, and now r9 280 (rebranded 7850) for £150. Feels a bit like that period before with crazy price drops everywhere, but nvidia prices are falling too (so no more 7970 for under 2/3'rds the price of 770 situations) haha forgot to mention, i replced the original board with the Z97X for the same price at ME, so i dont need the shipping as i can pick everything up! Thanks though. Also i am picking up the Silverstone Strider Essential 600W Power Supply http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX32274 for 64.99 edit: included psu As well as free shipping, it had like $20 off for a day. For PSU - that PSU only supplies ~504w on 12v, and it's 80+ rated, not 80+ bronze etc. It's probably an ok unit, but there might be something better available I was gonna get the EVGA's SuperNOVA 650 G Modular Power Supply for 94.44 it's a gold plus and a fully modular psu and my case isn't affected by the handle, but the handle is such a turn off for it though http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX52210
Not much reason to spend so much buying a great 650w modular 80+ gold PSU's for a system that's using half that much power with combined cpu+gpu load at overclock
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On July 08 2014 05:11 Lannix wrote:What is your budget? $1000 - $1200 (I'd like to keep the budget around here if possible as I currently only have about $1600 to work with) What is your monitor's native resolution? 1600x900, but I may consider buying a 1920x1080 monitor. What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?I intend to play Hearthstone, DayZ, Diablo 3, World of Warcraft, and games that have very large maps and are quite CPU intensive similar to DayZ (Rust, GTA4, etc). I'd like to play all of these games at their highest settings and achieve an FPS rate of 30 - 40 or better if that's possible within the budget (if not, going a little over the budget is acceptable to achieve this as this is what I want most and would be willing to spend a little extra for it). What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?I want this computer to be able to not only play the games, but be capable of streaming them at the same time as I want to be able to have a good gaming computer for consistent streaming. Do you intend to overclock?No. Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?No, unless it's recommended for my needs. Do you need an operating system?No. Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?I will likely be buying a monitor myself, if not using the ones I already have available to me (1600x900 resolution). So this is not included in the budget. If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.I prefer Nvidia for graphics cards. Everything else I have no preference with, I just would like whatever is optimal. What country will you be buying your parts in?I'll likely be ordering from Newegg. I live in the US though. If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.http://www.newegg.com/
example build
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.91 @ Newegg)
Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($80.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N400 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 450W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($52.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $818.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Under budget.. but nothing to spend the money on, unless you want a stronger GPU or change your mind on CPU overclocking. You could get a 780 and/or put towards CPU overclocking to run at ~4.6ghz instead of ~3.7.
That b85 board does support Haswell Refresh - http://www.gigabyte.us/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=4567
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What is your current build?
Uhhh... tell me if I did this right because I am a little retarded with computers.
Processor: AMD Sempron(tm) 145 Processor 2.80 GHz
RAM: 2.00 GB (1.75 GB usable)
64-bit operating system
What is your monitor's native resolution?
1920 x 1080
Why do you want to upgrade? What do you want to achieve with the upgrade?
Basically I got the cheapest computer I could make off of newegg + a pretty nice monitor I borrowed from a friend. I did this because the only games I play these days are Starcraft Broodwar and low requirement games off of steam. The problem is I can't stream well because my comp sucks so much and also I can't even run FTL or Kotor 1. I just want to have a system that can support streaming really well and can also allow me to play low requirement games or medium/higher requirement games on low settings.
What is your budget?
I can go as high as 400$ but I imagine this can be done much more cheaply.
What country will you be buying your parts in?
USA
If you have any brand or retailer preferences, please specify.
No xD
But yeah basically I intend to be streaming a lot next year so I want a system that can support that.
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On July 08 2014 17:08 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 05:11 Lannix wrote:What is your budget? $1000 - $1200 (I'd like to keep the budget around here if possible as I currently only have about $1600 to work with) What is your monitor's native resolution? 1600x900, but I may consider buying a 1920x1080 monitor. What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?I intend to play Hearthstone, DayZ, Diablo 3, World of Warcraft, and games that have very large maps and are quite CPU intensive similar to DayZ (Rust, GTA4, etc). I'd like to play all of these games at their highest settings and achieve an FPS rate of 30 - 40 or better if that's possible within the budget (if not, going a little over the budget is acceptable to achieve this as this is what I want most and would be willing to spend a little extra for it). What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?I want this computer to be able to not only play the games, but be capable of streaming them at the same time as I want to be able to have a good gaming computer for consistent streaming. Do you intend to overclock?No. Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?No, unless it's recommended for my needs. Do you need an operating system?No. Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?I will likely be buying a monitor myself, if not using the ones I already have available to me (1600x900 resolution). So this is not included in the budget. If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.I prefer Nvidia for graphics cards. Everything else I have no preference with, I just would like whatever is optimal. What country will you be buying your parts in?I'll likely be ordering from Newegg. I live in the US though. If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.http://www.newegg.com/ example build PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchantCPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Newegg) Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.91 @ Newegg) Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($80.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($114.99 @ Newegg) Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($229.99 @ Newegg) Case: Cooler Master N400 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 450W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($52.98 @ Newegg) Total: $818.84 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when availableUnder budget.. but nothing to spend the money on, unless you want a stronger GPU or change your mind on CPU overclocking. You could get a 780 and/or put towards CPU overclocking to run at ~4.6ghz instead of ~3.7. That b85 board does support Haswell Refresh - http://www.gigabyte.us/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=4567+ Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler +
Thank you. Very helpful. Also, would you recommend overclocking? I've never done that before hence why I listed "no" in my original post, but if you think it's something that could be good I'd be willing to give it a shot.
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So, the Crucial MX100 256GB is better and cheaper than the Samsung 840 EVO 250GB? Going to assume my SSD failed and pick up a replacement.
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On July 09 2014 08:26 Durak wrote:
So, the Crucial MX100 256GB is better and cheaper than the Samsung 840 EVO 250GB? Going to assume my SSD failed and pick up a replacement.
Yes.
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On July 09 2014 07:12 Lannix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 17:08 Cyro wrote:On July 08 2014 05:11 Lannix wrote:What is your budget? $1000 - $1200 (I'd like to keep the budget around here if possible as I currently only have about $1600 to work with) What is your monitor's native resolution? 1600x900, but I may consider buying a 1920x1080 monitor. What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?I intend to play Hearthstone, DayZ, Diablo 3, World of Warcraft, and games that have very large maps and are quite CPU intensive similar to DayZ (Rust, GTA4, etc). I'd like to play all of these games at their highest settings and achieve an FPS rate of 30 - 40 or better if that's possible within the budget (if not, going a little over the budget is acceptable to achieve this as this is what I want most and would be willing to spend a little extra for it). What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?I want this computer to be able to not only play the games, but be capable of streaming them at the same time as I want to be able to have a good gaming computer for consistent streaming. Do you intend to overclock?No. Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?No, unless it's recommended for my needs. Do you need an operating system?No. Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?I will likely be buying a monitor myself, if not using the ones I already have available to me (1600x900 resolution). So this is not included in the budget. If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.I prefer Nvidia for graphics cards. Everything else I have no preference with, I just would like whatever is optimal. What country will you be buying your parts in?I'll likely be ordering from Newegg. I live in the US though. If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.http://www.newegg.com/ example build PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchantCPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Newegg) Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.91 @ Newegg) Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($80.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($114.99 @ Newegg) Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($229.99 @ Newegg) Case: Cooler Master N400 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 450W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($52.98 @ Newegg) Total: $818.84 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when availableUnder budget.. but nothing to spend the money on, unless you want a stronger GPU or change your mind on CPU overclocking. You could get a 780 and/or put towards CPU overclocking to run at ~4.6ghz instead of ~3.7. That b85 board does support Haswell Refresh - http://www.gigabyte.us/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=4567+ Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler + Thank you. Very helpful. Also, would you recommend overclocking? I've never done that before hence why I listed "no" in my original post, but if you think it's something that could be good I'd be willing to give it a shot.
If you like tweaking, it's fun. If you want the best CPU performance, it's mandatory (there's not a CPU on the planet faster for single core loads than a 4690k at OC speeds)
You could maybe get a 770 with cpu oc build too, it's around the same performance/dollar as 760
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On July 08 2014 16:29 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 06:52 lethal111 wrote:On July 08 2014 02:02 Cyro wrote:On July 08 2014 00:56 lethal111 wrote:On July 07 2014 15:09 Cyro wrote:On July 07 2014 13:44 lethal111 wrote:On July 07 2014 11:01 skyR wrote:On July 07 2014 09:18 lethal111 wrote:So its been awhile since i last posted in this thread, but right now I am in a financial position to build a new pc, and was just looking to test out the waters. So here is the build I am looking at, nothing is set in stone yet. I also want to keep it under 1500. + Show Spoiler +Corsair Hyro Series H60 http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX42392 69.99, price matched to 57.49 MSI GeForce 760GTX http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX46634 299.99 Asus 24x DVD-RW Drive, SATA, OEM, Black http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45542 19.99 NZXT H440 ATX Mid Tower Case, White http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX51620 129.99 price matched at 117.49 Seagate 2TB Desktop HDD SATA III w/ 64MB Cache http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX36934 89.99 840 EVO Series Solid State Drive, SATA III, 2.5in, 120GB http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX47586 94.99 EVGA 600B 600W Bronze Power Supply http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX47882 79.99 with price match 61.24 HyperX FURY Black 8GB DDR3-1600MHz CL10 Dual Channel Kit (2x 4GB) http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX51495 94.44 Core™ i5-4670K Processor, 3.40GHz w/ 6MB Cache http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45429 269.99 Z87-PRO w/ Dual DDR3 1600, 7.1 Audio, Gigabit Lan, WiFi, BT, SLI / 3-Way CrossFireX http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45852 219.99 with price match 207.49 All together comes to $1,379.33 with GST. And I dont need shipping, as I can just pick up in store. NZXT H440 does not have space for an optical drive so if you want an optical drive, you'll need a different case. Core i5 4670k can be pricematched. $95 for 1600MHz cas10 is really bad. A $200 motherboard is unnecessary especially when your other components are somewhat lacking in comparison. Get a ~$140ish motherboard and spend the extra money on a ~250GB SSD and possibly a better power supply / heatsink. Noctua NH-U14S is a better choice than the Corsair H60. GTX 760 should be around ~$260. If you want to spend $300+, I'd start considering the R9 280x or GTX 770. So i have replaced the things you have told, other than the RAM and GFX, as i looked at most retailers and they were all about the same Canadian price. So i have replaced the mobo, the SSD and the heatsink (Noctua NH-U14S). Price matched the i5 to 244.95 + Show Spoiler + The z97x-gaming 3 is a 4-phase board, you should get the z97x-gaming 5 - http://www.ncix.com/detail/gigabyte-z97x-gaming-5-atx-lga1150-65-96896-1060.htm?affiliateid=7474144That's $159.99 ($149.99 AR) with free shipping today, grab it quick if you can! If not that, then this lists quite a few boards far below $150 - http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/parts/motherboard/#c=99&m=8,18&sort=a7http://sinhardware.com/images/vrmlist.pngBTW guys, for those in the UK - OCUK has been trolling some with GPU prices again recently. r7 265 for like £80 once, and now r9 280 (rebranded 7850) for £150. Feels a bit like that period before with crazy price drops everywhere, but nvidia prices are falling too (so no more 7970 for under 2/3'rds the price of 770 situations) haha forgot to mention, i replced the original board with the Z97X for the same price at ME, so i dont need the shipping as i can pick everything up! Thanks though. Also i am picking up the Silverstone Strider Essential 600W Power Supply http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX32274 for 64.99 edit: included psu As well as free shipping, it had like $20 off for a day. For PSU - that PSU only supplies ~504w on 12v, and it's 80+ rated, not 80+ bronze etc. It's probably an ok unit, but there might be something better available I was gonna get the EVGA's SuperNOVA 650 G Modular Power Supply for 94.44 it's a gold plus and a fully modular psu and my case isn't affected by the handle, but the handle is such a turn off for it though http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX52210 Not much reason to spend so much buying a great 650w modular 80+ gold PSU's for a system that's using half that much power with combined cpu+gpu load at overclock
Cyro, I just want to thank you for your suggestions and those that i have forgot to mention!
I think im going to pick up the Fractal Design Integra R2 650W Power Supply for 89.99
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX48066
Nothing is set in stone, as im hoping to pick this pc up last week of August
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On July 09 2014 11:30 lethal111 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 16:29 Cyro wrote:On July 08 2014 06:52 lethal111 wrote:On July 08 2014 02:02 Cyro wrote:On July 08 2014 00:56 lethal111 wrote:On July 07 2014 15:09 Cyro wrote:On July 07 2014 13:44 lethal111 wrote:On July 07 2014 11:01 skyR wrote:On July 07 2014 09:18 lethal111 wrote:So its been awhile since i last posted in this thread, but right now I am in a financial position to build a new pc, and was just looking to test out the waters. So here is the build I am looking at, nothing is set in stone yet. I also want to keep it under 1500. + Show Spoiler +Corsair Hyro Series H60 http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX42392 69.99, price matched to 57.49 MSI GeForce 760GTX http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX46634 299.99 Asus 24x DVD-RW Drive, SATA, OEM, Black http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45542 19.99 NZXT H440 ATX Mid Tower Case, White http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX51620 129.99 price matched at 117.49 Seagate 2TB Desktop HDD SATA III w/ 64MB Cache http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX36934 89.99 840 EVO Series Solid State Drive, SATA III, 2.5in, 120GB http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX47586 94.99 EVGA 600B 600W Bronze Power Supply http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX47882 79.99 with price match 61.24 HyperX FURY Black 8GB DDR3-1600MHz CL10 Dual Channel Kit (2x 4GB) http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX51495 94.44 Core™ i5-4670K Processor, 3.40GHz w/ 6MB Cache http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45429 269.99 Z87-PRO w/ Dual DDR3 1600, 7.1 Audio, Gigabit Lan, WiFi, BT, SLI / 3-Way CrossFireX http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45852 219.99 with price match 207.49 All together comes to $1,379.33 with GST. And I dont need shipping, as I can just pick up in store. NZXT H440 does not have space for an optical drive so if you want an optical drive, you'll need a different case. Core i5 4670k can be pricematched. $95 for 1600MHz cas10 is really bad. A $200 motherboard is unnecessary especially when your other components are somewhat lacking in comparison. Get a ~$140ish motherboard and spend the extra money on a ~250GB SSD and possibly a better power supply / heatsink. Noctua NH-U14S is a better choice than the Corsair H60. GTX 760 should be around ~$260. If you want to spend $300+, I'd start considering the R9 280x or GTX 770. So i have replaced the things you have told, other than the RAM and GFX, as i looked at most retailers and they were all about the same Canadian price. So i have replaced the mobo, the SSD and the heatsink (Noctua NH-U14S). Price matched the i5 to 244.95 + Show Spoiler + The z97x-gaming 3 is a 4-phase board, you should get the z97x-gaming 5 - http://www.ncix.com/detail/gigabyte-z97x-gaming-5-atx-lga1150-65-96896-1060.htm?affiliateid=7474144That's $159.99 ($149.99 AR) with free shipping today, grab it quick if you can! If not that, then this lists quite a few boards far below $150 - http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/parts/motherboard/#c=99&m=8,18&sort=a7http://sinhardware.com/images/vrmlist.pngBTW guys, for those in the UK - OCUK has been trolling some with GPU prices again recently. r7 265 for like £80 once, and now r9 280 (rebranded 7850) for £150. Feels a bit like that period before with crazy price drops everywhere, but nvidia prices are falling too (so no more 7970 for under 2/3'rds the price of 770 situations) haha forgot to mention, i replced the original board with the Z97X for the same price at ME, so i dont need the shipping as i can pick everything up! Thanks though. Also i am picking up the Silverstone Strider Essential 600W Power Supply http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX32274 for 64.99 edit: included psu As well as free shipping, it had like $20 off for a day. For PSU - that PSU only supplies ~504w on 12v, and it's 80+ rated, not 80+ bronze etc. It's probably an ok unit, but there might be something better available I was gonna get the EVGA's SuperNOVA 650 G Modular Power Supply for 94.44 it's a gold plus and a fully modular psu and my case isn't affected by the handle, but the handle is such a turn off for it though http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX52210 Not much reason to spend so much buying a great 650w modular 80+ gold PSU's for a system that's using half that much power with combined cpu+gpu load at overclock Cyro, I just want to thank you for your suggestions and those that i have forgot to mention! I think im going to pick up the Fractal Design Integra R2 650W Power Supply for 89.99 http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX48066Nothing is set in stone, as im hoping to pick this pc up last week of August
Why that PSU? If you've got $90 to spend on it you can probably get something way better. It's 80+ bronze, non modular, has 576w of 12v (not near 650w) split awkwardly across two rails, i've never even heard of it etc so it's nothing special. Seems pretty crazy for that price.
*pokes skyR*
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Memory Express doesn't really have anything good under $100. If you want to spend up to $100 at ME, I'd just get a EVGA Supernova 650G or be a cheapass and get a EVGA 500B. If you are open to other retailers then that opens up a wide range of units. NCIX has an XFX 650w for $80 ($60 after mail in rebate), Newegg has the Rosewill Capstone along with Antec Truepower Classic and some others at around $90 ($50-$60 after mail in rebate)..
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okay, so this is what i put together:
HV20Y459DE Intel Core i5-4590 in-a-Box 171,74 €
HV1150USDE ASUS H97-PRO, Sockel 1150, ATX 98,69 €
HV20CS93DE 8GB Corsair Vengeance blue PC3-12800U CL10-10-10-27 71,73 €
HV203CTFDE Cooltek K2 - Rev. C Full Black - Midi Tower, ATX, black, no power-supply 31,34 €
HVR550KDE Cooltek Value Series CVS 550 Watt ATX 2.3 38,80 €
HV1034SGDE Sapphire Radeon R9 270 Dual-X, 2GB GDDR5, 2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort, lite retail 155,99 €
HV13W1CBDE WD Blue 1TB 6Gb's 49,81 €
HV207GB4DE LG GH24NS bare black 12,68 €
HVZPCDE Assembly 29,99 €
Total: 660,77 €
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if anyone wants to improve the build or share some wisdom, please go ahead 
edit: what this pc MUST handle will be fallout series and skyrim heavily modded. shouldn't be a problem, right?
edit2: should i get the i5 4690 for just +20€?
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you better translate your build in english (blau, schwarz, ohne netzteil etc)
very difficult to help you because you have all from one site and nobody knows what they have if something is not ok with your build.
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Only thing I see in your build, MethodMan, to keep in mind is that your LG optical drive, while Bluray, will need additional software if you intent on watching movies using it. (Or, alternately, do what I do, which is immediately rip the movie and watch the rip.) Because Microsoft wants to save roughly $20 on the price of Windows by not licensing the Bluray codecs. It'll handle all the data needs, that's the only thing that you might stub your toe on.
Also, yes, get the 4690 if you want to spend the extra euro.
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On July 10 2014 08:01 felisconcolori wrote:
Only thing I see in your build, MethodMan, to keep in mind is that your LG optical drive, while Bluray, will need additional software if you intent on watching movies using it. (Or, alternately, do what I do, which is immediately rip the movie and watch the rip.) Because Microsoft wants to save roughly $20 on the price of Windows by not licensing the Bluray codecs. It'll handle all the data needs, that's the only thing that you might stub your toe on.
Also, yes, get the 4690 if you want to spend the extra euro.
I'll just need it to burn the occasional CD/DVD. Updated the build:
HV20Y469DE Intel Core i5-4690 in-a-Box 192,74 €
HV1150USDE ASUS H97-PRO, Socket 1150, ATX 98,69 €
HV20CS93DE 8GB Corsair Vengeance blue PC3-12800U CL10-10-10-27 71,73 €
HV203CTKDE Cooltek K3 Evo 3.0 Midi Tower, ATX, black, no power-supply 38,45 €
HVR550XEDE Xilence Power ECO 550 Watt 40,27 €
HV1034SGDE Sapphire Radeon R9 270 Dual-X, 2GB GDDR5, 2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort, lite retail 155,99 €
HV13W1CBDE WD Blue 1TB 6Gb's 49,81 €
HV207GB4DE LG GH24NS bare black 12,68 €
HVZPCDE Assembly 29,99 €
Total: 690,35 €
I swapped the tower (i prefer having the frontal USB ports on the top-side), power supply (no real reason) and the CPU. Final build and gonna order within the next few days if nobody wants to speak up 
Edit: I guess the H97 mainboard will do for an i5? Since the Z97 ones are notably more expensive.
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