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On April 18 2014 07:59 Ropid wrote:
@Mandarinez:
In addition to what Myrmidon said about prices (which should already convince you not to buy that drive), I'm also worried that you will eventually run into some sort of problems with that drive. If you don't know how it works, the thing will show up as a 120GB SSD to the PC. After you install some sort of special driver, the 1TB HDD part shows up. There won't be two drives, instead it's one drive with two partitions. Everything about that seems suspicious. If you buy two normal drives instead, things will just work, no need for special drivers.
It's also $20-$60 more expensive than buying a 120GB SSD and a 1TB HDD.
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On April 18 2014 08:04 xes wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2014 07:59 Ropid wrote:
@Mandarinez:
In addition to what Myrmidon said about prices (which should already convince you not to buy that drive), I'm also worried that you will eventually run into some sort of problems with that drive. If you don't know how it works, the thing will show up as a 120GB SSD to the PC. After you install some sort of special driver, the 1TB HDD part shows up. There won't be two drives, instead it's one drive with two partitions. Everything about that seems suspicious. If you buy two normal drives instead, things will just work, no need for special drivers. It's also $20-$60 more expensive than buying a 120GB SSD and a 1TB HDD.
If you're buying a Seagate or Western Digital Blue instead of a Black.
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Looking to UPGRADE
What is your current build?
EVGA 132-CK-NF78-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard
Q6600 Processor
280GB HD Western Digital
4 GB RAM
What is your monitor's native resolution?
1600x900
Why do you want to upgrade? What do you want to achieve with the upgrade?
Need new CD reader, Can keep CPU if needed. On budget. Possibly new RAM. Need new hard drive. Anything else I would need.
What is your budget?
300-350
What country will you be buying your parts in?
USA
please any help is appreciated. Not looking for a complete overhaul just some tweaks here and there. Unless I find a really good deal, in which case i wouldn't be opposed.
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On April 18 2014 08:12 Grampz wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Looking to UPGRADE
What is your current build?
EVGA 132-CK-NF78-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard
Q6600 Processor
280GB HD Western Digital
4 GB RAM
What is your monitor's native resolution?
1600x900
Why do you want to upgrade? What do you want to achieve with the upgrade?
Need new CD reader, Can keep CPU if needed. On budget. Possibly new RAM. Need new hard drive. Anything else I would need.
What is your budget?
300-350
What country will you be buying your parts in?
USA
please any help is appreciated. Not looking for a complete overhaul just some tweaks here and there. Unless I find a really good deal, in which case i wouldn't be opposed.
Can't really say what you should upgrade if you don't tell us what you are looking to do. If you're running out of storage space than okay, get a new HDD or get a SSD and use your old HDD for storage.
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On April 18 2014 08:16 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2014 08:12 Grampz wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Looking to UPGRADE
What is your current build?
EVGA 132-CK-NF78-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard
Q6600 Processor
280GB HD Western Digital
4 GB RAM
660 GTX GPU
750W PSU
What is your monitor's native resolution?
1600x900
Why do you want to upgrade? What do you want to achieve with the upgrade?
Need new CD reader, Can keep CPU if needed. On budget. Possibly new RAM. Need new hard drive. Anything else I would need.
What is your budget?
300-350
What country will you be buying your parts in?
USA
please any help is appreciated. Not looking for a complete overhaul just some tweaks here and there. Unless I find a really good deal, in which case i wouldn't be opposed. Can't really say what you should upgrade if you don't tell us what you are looking to do. If you're running out of storage space than okay, get a new HDD or get a SSD and use your old HDD for storage.
Sorry, I'm only looking to play some new end games, and make videos for my youtube channel. Definitely ran outta storage space. I dont think im looking for a SSD
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On April 18 2014 08:17 Grampz wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 18 2014 08:16 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2014 08:12 Grampz wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Looking to UPGRADE
What is your current build?
EVGA 132-CK-NF78-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard
Q6600 Processor
280GB HD Western Digital
4 GB RAM
660 GTX GPU
750W PSU
What is your monitor's native resolution?
1600x900
Why do you want to upgrade? What do you want to achieve with the upgrade?
Need new CD reader, Can keep CPU if needed. On budget. Possibly new RAM. Need new hard drive. Anything else I would need.
What is your budget?
300-350
What country will you be buying your parts in?
USA
please any help is appreciated. Not looking for a complete overhaul just some tweaks here and there. Unless I find a really good deal, in which case i wouldn't be opposed. Can't really say what you should upgrade if you don't tell us what you are looking to do. If you're running out of storage space than okay, get a new HDD or get a SSD and use your old HDD for storage. Sorry, I'm only looking to play some new end games, and make videos for my youtube channel. Definitely ran outta storage space. I dont think im looking for a SSD
You never mentioned what your video card is.
What high-end games specifically are you trying to play? Is your Q6600 overclocked?
If you're looking to play newer games than a GPU and a CPU upgrade is probably in order. The CPU upgrade would also entail a new motherboard and DDR3 RAM as well. Though since your budget is small, you can only afford one so which one you should upgrade depends on what games you are trying to play.
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On April 18 2014 08:20 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2014 08:17 Grampz wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 18 2014 08:16 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2014 08:12 Grampz wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Looking to UPGRADE
What is your current build?
EVGA 132-CK-NF78-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard
Q6600 Processor
280GB HD Western Digital
4 GB RAM
660 GTX GPU
750W PSU
What is your monitor's native resolution?
1600x900
Why do you want to upgrade? What do you want to achieve with the upgrade?
Need new CD reader, Can keep CPU if needed. On budget. Possibly new RAM. Need new hard drive. Anything else I would need.
What is your budget?
300-350
What country will you be buying your parts in?
USA
please any help is appreciated. Not looking for a complete overhaul just some tweaks here and there. Unless I find a really good deal, in which case i wouldn't be opposed. Can't really say what you should upgrade if you don't tell us what you are looking to do. If you're running out of storage space than okay, get a new HDD or get a SSD and use your old HDD for storage. Sorry, I'm only looking to play some new end games, and make videos for my youtube channel. Definitely ran outta storage space. I dont think im looking for a SSD You never mentioned what your video card is. What high-end games specifically are you trying to play? Is your Q6600 overclocked? If you're looking to play newer games than a GPU and a CPU upgrade is probably in order. The CPU upgrade would also entail a new motherboard and DDR3 RAM as well. Though since your budget is small, you can only afford one so which one you should upgrade depends on what games you are trying to play.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?gclid=CIinxdHU6L0CFW5eOgodDXEATg&Item=N82E16814130825&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-Desktop Graphics Cards-_-N82E16814130825&ef_id=U0hMswAABcPZGKT7:20140417232116:s
not high end stuff just csgo and the current gen games. not overclocked. just want to upgrade my ram, hdd, maybe my CPU if it needs it and i can afford it but that might need me to buy a new mobo with it so i wouldnt bother if i dont need to
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GPU is mostly fine. CSGO isn't that demanding but if you are looking to get more performance in that game then you'll need to overclock your CPU or get a new one (along with a new motherboard and DDR3 memory). I wouldn't be getting more DDR2 memory at this point.
If I were in your shoes, I'd get a SSD and a new monitor, maybe a heatsink to overclock the Q6600.
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Hello! I would like to buy a computer, not build, but was hoping you guys could recommend one to me? The only game I play is LoL - but I would like the ability to run other games in case one comes around I might enjoy. I am also starting law school in August, and I don't know how much time I will have for gaming, so I don't want to spend a lot on a computer and then have no time to play. Other that league, I would just use for watching movies or school work. I currently have a 2011 iMac, and I want a windows machine to replace it. I did however just buy a new retina display macbook pro two weeks ago, so I will be using that for most everything other than gaming, like school and such.
Anyway, if you guys could point me in the right direction that would be great. I want the desktop to be good for 3 to 4 years.
Thanks Sincerely.
b]What is your budget?[/b]
Not sure, but would definitely like it to stay under $1000-$2000. This does not however mean I would want to get as close to $2000 as possible...
What is your monitor's native resolution?
1920 x 1080
What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
LoL
What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
movies, school
Do you intend to overclock?
no
Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
?
Do you need an operating system?
yes
Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
no
If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
no
What country will you be buying your parts in?
USA
If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
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On April 18 2014 10:43 yokcounty wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hello! I would like to buy a computer, not build, but was hoping you guys could recommend one to me? The only game I play is LoL - but I would like the ability to run other games in case one comes around I might enjoy. I am also starting law school in August, and I don't know how much time I will have for gaming, so I don't want to spend a lot on a computer and then have no time to play. Other that league, I would just use for watching movies or school work. I currently have a 2011 iMac, and I want a windows machine to replace it. I did however just buy a new retina display macbook pro two weeks ago, so I will be using that for most everything other than gaming, like school and such.
Anyway, if you guys could point me in the right direction that would be great. I want the desktop to be good for 3 to 4 years.
Thanks Sincerely.
What is your budget?
Not sure, but would definitely like it to stay under $1000-$2000. This does not however mean I would want to get as close to $2000 as possible...
What is your monitor's native resolution?
1920 x 1080
What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
LoL
What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
movies, school
Do you intend to overclock?
no
Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
?
Do you need an operating system?
yes
Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
no
If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
no
What country will you be buying your parts in?
USA
If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
Since your needs are relatively small compared to your budget I went with looks, low temps and quietness as a high priority. Very high priority.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Micro Center)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.24 @ Amazon)
Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($153.09 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 350D Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($108.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $964.24
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-18 01:25 EDT-0400)
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He mentioned he wants to purchase prebuilt, not build.
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On April 18 2014 14:30 skyR wrote:
He mentioned he wants to purchase prebuilt, not build.
Well then, how'd I miss that?.. There is no prebuilt really worth buying and his mac has a dGPU so he doesn't need a desktop, just dualboot it with windows?
E: Well he could buy some hp/dell ect $350 tower and plop a GTX 750/750 Ti in it. But that would be barely more powerful than his mac...
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prebuilts just suck, especially at that price range
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People really don't have an excuse to get it prebuilt. I'm incredibly unhandy and a while back, on my pre-built PC, I had to install a new motherboard and processor. That took me about 30 minutes but it does involve taking most of the other parts out; It was really straightforward and not too hard at all. Unless you have a reason for not being able to build one, you pick it up really quick and get to pick your own specific parts for a much lower price. I recently suggested an i5 4670k and GTX 770 build to a friend of mine for about €700,-, while most shops, even shops that build it for you, will at least charge €900. That's almost a 300$ difference. Think about it! :D And for purely LoL you could get one for $500, maybe $600 that'll be able to run the game at high at 60FPS+. LoL is well optimised and has never really been hard on your graphics card/CPU.
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Wow, thanks so much guys for the fast and thought-out responses. I have never built a computer before, and would have no idea where to start... so that is my only reason for wanting to buy one completed. Here are the specs for my current iMac desktop. It runs LoL at 60 FPS.
Processor 2.7 GHz Intel Core i5
Memory 12 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
Graphics AMD Radeon HD 6770M 512 MB
Since you guys say that building a PC can be a much better deal, especially in my situation - I would be willing to try it out. I think if I have any trouble I could find some people around to help me. I would consider myself intelligent, just not knowledgable (in this field)!
If I do decide to build, should I just go with something like iTzSnypah has posted? Does this type of thing require soldering or other tools and skills, or is it more like just plug the parts into their correct spot in the case? I have been told that buying prebuilt was better because you know that all the parts would work well together, is this not the case?
Thanks again so much!
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You don't have to be intelligent to build a PC, or else I would never have managed it. Building a PC is as simple as plugging everything in where it should go and tightening a few screws. Add some common sense (parts are fragile, don't touch circuit boards after just taking off a sweater, etc) and you're good to go.
Most parts are compatible, the problems you might run into aren't all that difficult to avoid. It can be something like buying a motherboard with one socket and a CPU or CPU cooler of another socket. There's also the possibility that your case won't fit your motherboard or your graphics card. It's small things like that that are quite easy to avoid with minimal knowledge; especially if you ask for help in this thread. pcpartpicker.com is a good site for making sure parts are compatible, if you're paranoid (I know I was when I built my first rig, it's almost silly now that I look back it).
You should indeed, based off your budget and needs, go for a build similar's to synpah's. It's a nice build, however you're encouraged to do your research yourself and perhaps find other parts. I like synpah's build myself but if you're looking to eek out money you could easily save more than $100 if you choose budget parts. You could get no aftermarket cooler, a cheaper case and cheaper motherboard, which in turn may lead to a louder rig, or a rig less equipped for future upgrades. Maybe you don't care for a window, or maybe you want a modular PSU. Perhaps you want to get a stronger GPU / CPU, that sort of thing. You can tailor the build to what you feel is right. That's the strength in building your own rig.
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On April 19 2014 00:39 Incognoto wrote:
You don't have to be intelligent to build a PC, or else I would never have managed it. Building a PC is as simple as plugging everything in where it should go and tightening a few screws. Add some common sense (parts are fragile, don't touch circuit boards after just taking off a sweater, etc) and you're good to go.
Most parts are compatible, the problems you might run into aren't all that difficult to avoid. It can be something like buying a motherboard with one socket and a CPU or CPU cooler of another socket. There's also the possibility that your case won't fit your motherboard or your graphics card. It's small things like that that are quite easy to avoid with minimal knowledge; especially if you ask for help in this thread. pcpartpicker.com is a good site for making sure parts are compatible, if you're paranoid (I know I was when I built my first rig, it's almost silly now that I look back it).
You should indeed, based off your budget and needs, go for a build similar's to synpah's. It's a nice build, however you're encouraged to do your research yourself and perhaps find other parts. I like synpah's build myself but if you're looking to eek out money you could easily save more than $100 if you choose budget parts. You could get no aftermarket cooler, a cheaper case and cheaper motherboard, which in turn may lead to a louder rig, or a rig less equipped for future upgrades. Maybe you don't care for a window, or maybe you want a modular PSU. Perhaps you want to get a stronger GPU / CPU, that sort of thing. You can tailor the build to what you feel is right. That's the strength in building your own rig.
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Okay, sounds good. I think I will use Synpah's build as a starting point then. I like the idea of the computer being quiet and future upgradability is also important to me, however I don't want to overbuy and have power that will just go to waste. Thanks so much for the help, I will post again with choices before making a purchase.
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Ola, another quick question :D
What is the main difference between those 4 product? They look almost identical to me so i don't get it :/
Gigabyte GA-B85-HD3 vs Asrock Z87 Pro3
Patriot viper 3 red vs blue
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B85-HD3 is B85 chipset which is basic chipset that can't be overclocked. Z87 Pro3 is a low-end board with a Z87 chipset which allows for overclocking.
There's lots of models when it comes memory.. and you didn't specify so the obvious difference between the two is that one is red... and one is blue.
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When I got my computer build I had it built by the people at ncix(wouldn't do it again I'd built it myself now, but it helped when I I had no clue what I was doing with computers) I think it cost me like 50 bucks. That's just an option if you don't want to build it but not buy a pre built
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