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Well, thats what Xsplit does. Xsplit renders and projects a flash preview of whatever you tell it to, of course what you see is not necessarily what your viewers see, so the preview serves no real purpose yet you can't get rid of it (the overhead is still very real).
Unlike your flash player you can't change anything about the preview screen. Hellgreen claims it doesn't actually cause the problem, but since I only have this problem with Xsplit and not streamers like FMLE (which can be run from a command line) I don't appreciate the distinction.
Thats why its important to get into contact with Hellgreen because he knows about very specific things about Xsplit that can maybe ameliorate the problem.
As a pro player I know how its frustrating to have your skill level altered by "greed" (you dont NEED to stream, unless you like money >.>). So for people who are really frustrated with streaming from the same CPU thats running the game. I recommend not doing that and using a second computer and/or capture card to segregate the two activities (since SC2 is a game thats hard to get really high FPS on anyway). A solution that requires $$$ so for many, its not a solution at all and thats respectable. This is why we don't see the topmost Koreans play. Koreans are as aware of the problems of streaming as anyone else is.
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On August 24 2012 03:43 coL.Minigun wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 03:37 Medrea wrote:
Right click on a flash video, stream, youtube video, whatever.
Mouse over and hit settings.
Is hardware acceleration enabled or disabled? Because I would try whatever it currently isnt. it was enabled...I turned it off, seems to be better? really hard to tell it's kinda random sometimes xsplit still lags like hell though oh yeah, before I couldn't even get 60 fps while running one stream in the background in League of legends ill try now ra?
Well make sure you dont have vsync enabled in LoL. I dont run that game very often but when I did I had like a billion FPS the whole time, and you should too. That game is super duper easy to render. No units to build. Super easy pathing. Playstation 2 texture quality.
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prolly your RAM
Need atleast 12.
Minimum CL9
User was warned for this post
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On August 24 2012 03:52 Medrea wrote:
Well, thats what Xsplit does. Xsplit renders and projects a flash preview of whatever you tell it to, of course what you see is not necessarily what your viewers see, so the preview serves no real purpose yet you can't get rid of it (the overhead is still very real).
Unlike your flash player you can't change anything about the preview screen. Hellgreen claims it doesn't actually cause the problem, but since I only have this problem with Xsplit and not streamers like FMLE (which can be run from a command line) I don't appreciate the distinction.
Thats why its important to get into contact with Hellgreen because he knows about very specific things about Xsplit that can maybe ameliorate the problem.
As a pro player I know how its frustrating to have your skill level altered by "greed" (you dont NEED to stream, unless you like money >.>). So for people who are really frustrated with streaming from the same CPU thats running the game. I recommend not doing that and using a second computer and/or capture card to segregate the two activities (since SC2 is a game thats hard to get really high FPS on anyway). A solution that requires $$$ so for many, its not a solution at all and thats respectable. This is why we don't see the topmost Koreans play. Koreans are as aware of the problems of streaming as anyone else is.
the odd part is, other streaming programs cause the lag, it's not JUST xsplit
so...a capture card should fix my problem? I don't have access to another pc that could do the encoding, and I'd rather not buy a computer just for the sake of running xsplit on it.
I just want to be able to stream without jitter >< . I enjoy streaming for far too many reasons to give up on it. Interacting with the fans/having people watch you play is good motivation, it's not ALL about the money.
something like this? http://www.amazon.com/AVERMEDIA-Captures-Gameplay-Hardware-C985/dp/B007UXJ6LE/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1345748962&sr=1-5
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On August 24 2012 04:00 coL.Minigun wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 03:52 Medrea wrote:
Well, thats what Xsplit does. Xsplit renders and projects a flash preview of whatever you tell it to, of course what you see is not necessarily what your viewers see, so the preview serves no real purpose yet you can't get rid of it (the overhead is still very real).
Unlike your flash player you can't change anything about the preview screen. Hellgreen claims it doesn't actually cause the problem, but since I only have this problem with Xsplit and not streamers like FMLE (which can be run from a command line) I don't appreciate the distinction.
Thats why its important to get into contact with Hellgreen because he knows about very specific things about Xsplit that can maybe ameliorate the problem.
As a pro player I know how its frustrating to have your skill level altered by "greed" (you dont NEED to stream, unless you like money >.>). So for people who are really frustrated with streaming from the same CPU thats running the game. I recommend not doing that and using a second computer and/or capture card to segregate the two activities (since SC2 is a game thats hard to get really high FPS on anyway). A solution that requires $$$ so for many, its not a solution at all and thats respectable. This is why we don't see the topmost Koreans play. Koreans are as aware of the problems of streaming as anyone else is. the odd part is, other streaming programs cause the lag, it's not JUST xsplit so...a capture card should fix my problem? I just want to be able to stream without jitter ><
Streaming without jitter is like an ultra cosmological question. Even if I use FMLE I get it a little bit. In the end you just need to either not be sensitive to it or pony up the cash.
I don't know much about streaming with a capture card but not a second computer. If you look at itmejp's stream he uses two computers and an avermedia 985. The result is a gorgeous tournament quality stream, the stream itself is 60 FPS HD and his play is not affected in the least because his computer is doing neither the capture nor the encoding.
Now HIS second computer is also retardedly OP (i7 2600k, flagship everything else.) but you dont need anything near that level, Idra was using a spare laptop he had to do his streaming for him and I can't for the life of me imagine Idra as not being sensitive, although he does like money a lot.
Lol yep. Of course you need to actually be able to deliver 60 FPS to it to get that much.
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Capture card should be the last thing you would want to do. I would say if reformatting your computer doesn't help then go ahead and buy a capture card.
if you do reformat your computer, make sure and image the fresh install just because its sooo much more easier when re installing windows if you would ever have to do it again.
another thing I know that with xsplit when there would be lag usually deleting your scenes/screen areas etc wouldn't help fix lag. Some times going to file -> new presentation would help as well, not sure if it applies to the version 1.0 of xsplit but it certainly helped in beta versions.
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On August 24 2012 04:11 Medrea wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 04:00 coL.Minigun wrote:On August 24 2012 03:52 Medrea wrote:
Well, thats what Xsplit does. Xsplit renders and projects a flash preview of whatever you tell it to, of course what you see is not necessarily what your viewers see, so the preview serves no real purpose yet you can't get rid of it (the overhead is still very real).
Unlike your flash player you can't change anything about the preview screen. Hellgreen claims it doesn't actually cause the problem, but since I only have this problem with Xsplit and not streamers like FMLE (which can be run from a command line) I don't appreciate the distinction.
Thats why its important to get into contact with Hellgreen because he knows about very specific things about Xsplit that can maybe ameliorate the problem.
As a pro player I know how its frustrating to have your skill level altered by "greed" (you dont NEED to stream, unless you like money >.>). So for people who are really frustrated with streaming from the same CPU thats running the game. I recommend not doing that and using a second computer and/or capture card to segregate the two activities (since SC2 is a game thats hard to get really high FPS on anyway). A solution that requires $$$ so for many, its not a solution at all and thats respectable. This is why we don't see the topmost Koreans play. Koreans are as aware of the problems of streaming as anyone else is. the odd part is, other streaming programs cause the lag, it's not JUST xsplit so...a capture card should fix my problem? I just want to be able to stream without jitter >< Streaming without jitter is like an ultra cosmological question. Even if I use FMLE I get it a little bit. In the end you just need to either not be sensitive to it or pony up the cash. I don't know much about streaming with a capture card but not a second computer. If you look at itmejp's stream he uses two computers and an avermedia 985. The result is a gorgeous tournament quality stream, the stream itself is 60 FPS HD and his play is not affected in the least because his computer is doing neither the capture nor the encoding. Now HIS second computer is also retardedly OP (i7 2600k, flagship everything else.) but you dont need anything near that level, Idra was using a spare laptop he had to do his streaming for him and I can't for the life of me imagine Idra as not being sensitive, although he does like money a lot. Lol yep. Of course you need to actually be able to deliver 60 FPS to it to get that much.
hmmm...how high end of a comp do i need to get exactly say for a 60 fps hd stream? Don't want to end up putting one together only to find out I went too cheap on the parts ^_^ .
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Your hardware is 10x better than mine and look at my stream, i stream at 60 fps at 720P and still have over 130 fps with my I7-960 CPU. If you are seeing "jittering" make sure you are using game source or dxtory as cam and not screen region. And bitrate has nothing to do with performance on your video.
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On August 24 2012 04:19 Avean wrote:
Your hardware is 10x better than mine and look at my stream, i stream at 60 fps at 720P and still have over 130 fps with my I7-960 CPU. If you are seeing "jittering" make sure you are using game source or dxtory as cam and not screen region. And bitrate has nothing to do with performance on your video.
ugh that right there makes me sick and revert back to something must be wrong with my hardware
lol
grrrrrrrr
5$#%$%#^
I don't know what to do. I feel like I've tried everything.
I've tried game source and dxtory and screen region
all is same
On August 24 2012 04:16 Boblhead wrote:
Capture card should be the last thing you would want to do. I would say if reformatting your computer doesn't help then go ahead and buy a capture card.
if you do reformat your computer, make sure and image the fresh install just because its sooo much more easier when re installing windows if you would ever have to do it again.
another thing I know that with xsplit when there would be lag usually deleting your scenes/screen areas etc wouldn't help fix lag. Some times going to file -> new presentation would help as well, not sure if it applies to the version 1.0 of xsplit but it certainly helped in beta versions.
Yeah I've tried all that...I've pretty much exhaused my options.
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On August 24 2012 04:20 coL.Minigun wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 04:19 Avean wrote:
Your hardware is 10x better than mine and look at my stream, i stream at 60 fps at 720P and still have over 130 fps with my I7-960 CPU. If you are seeing "jittering" make sure you are using game source or dxtory as cam and not screen region. And bitrate has nothing to do with performance on your video. ugh that right there makes me sick and revert back to something must be wrong with my hardware lol grrrrrrrr 5$#%$%#^ I don't know what to do. I feel like I've tried everything. I've tried game source and dxtory and screen region all is same Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 04:16 Boblhead wrote:
Capture card should be the last thing you would want to do. I would say if reformatting your computer doesn't help then go ahead and buy a capture card.
if you do reformat your computer, make sure and image the fresh install just because its sooo much more easier when re installing windows if you would ever have to do it again.
another thing I know that with xsplit when there would be lag usually deleting your scenes/screen areas etc wouldn't help fix lag. Some times going to file -> new presentation would help as well, not sure if it applies to the version 1.0 of xsplit but it certainly helped in beta versions. Yeah I've tried all that...I've pretty much exhaused my options.
He doesnt stream at 60 FPS. He can't even run the game at 60 towards the end of the game. And he doesnt even talk about jittering (not a function of FPS). I get frustrated whenever I read "omg I get 60 FPS" as well. I have an i5-2500k and 7970 and best minimum I can get is around 40 FPS (more if I run the same scenario many times).
If you dont want to pony up the cash, thats very well fine. Another option is that you can wait and see what the future brings.
That being said. Whats going on about your board? Your primary slot is fucked?
EDIT: After reading about your motherboard you should return it if the primary slot is defective. The primary slot is a x16 slot running at x16 while the second slot is a x16 lane running at x4 ( I think anyway, its hard to get a clear answer). I dont actually think you are having bandwidth problems but, if it doesnt work you should invoke the warranty on the board anyway.
Who knows it might even fix your problem and we all learn something.
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On August 24 2012 04:34 Medrea wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 04:20 coL.Minigun wrote:On August 24 2012 04:19 Avean wrote:
Your hardware is 10x better than mine and look at my stream, i stream at 60 fps at 720P and still have over 130 fps with my I7-960 CPU. If you are seeing "jittering" make sure you are using game source or dxtory as cam and not screen region. And bitrate has nothing to do with performance on your video. ugh that right there makes me sick and revert back to something must be wrong with my hardware lol grrrrrrrr 5$#%$%#^ I don't know what to do. I feel like I've tried everything. I've tried game source and dxtory and screen region all is same On August 24 2012 04:16 Boblhead wrote:
Capture card should be the last thing you would want to do. I would say if reformatting your computer doesn't help then go ahead and buy a capture card.
if you do reformat your computer, make sure and image the fresh install just because its sooo much more easier when re installing windows if you would ever have to do it again.
another thing I know that with xsplit when there would be lag usually deleting your scenes/screen areas etc wouldn't help fix lag. Some times going to file -> new presentation would help as well, not sure if it applies to the version 1.0 of xsplit but it certainly helped in beta versions. Yeah I've tried all that...I've pretty much exhaused my options. He doesnt stream at 60 FPS. He can't even run the game at 60 towards the end of the game. And he doesnt even talk about jittering (not a function of FPS). I get frustrated whenever I read "omg I get 60 FPS" as well. I have an i5-2500k and 7970 and best minimum I can get is around 40 FPS (more if I run the same scenario many times). If you dont want to pony up the cash, thats very well fine. Another option is that you can wait and see what the future brings. That being said. Whats going on about your board? Your primary slot is fucked? EDIT: After reading about your motherboard you should return it if the primary slot is defective. The primary slot is a x16 slot running at x16 while the second slot is a x16 lane running at x4. I dont actually think you are having badnwidth problems but, if it doesnt work you should invoke the warranty on the board anyway. Who knows it might even fix your problem and we all learn something.
Ah okay. Yeah the slot blew I think, not really sure why. I guess I'll see if the warenty is still valid and return.
Okay so what do I need to get to have a good quality stream? I actually would prefer a laptop over a desktop (unless that decreases quality or whatnot...)
Are we talking like a 400$ laptop 800$ laptop or?
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I guess that depends on what your definition of "good" is. That and I am not really good with laptops. I would personally use a mini ITX computer since Im not a fan of laptops and I think tablets and smartphones are the future in mobile technology anyway.
60 fps streams are still super rare, but man are they delicious aren't they?
EDIT: I mean look at this stream.
http://www.twitch.tv/itmejp/b/329270874
LOOK AT IT.
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On August 24 2012 04:38 coL.Minigun wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 04:34 Medrea wrote:On August 24 2012 04:20 coL.Minigun wrote:On August 24 2012 04:19 Avean wrote:
Your hardware is 10x better than mine and look at my stream, i stream at 60 fps at 720P and still have over 130 fps with my I7-960 CPU. If you are seeing "jittering" make sure you are using game source or dxtory as cam and not screen region. And bitrate has nothing to do with performance on your video. ugh that right there makes me sick and revert back to something must be wrong with my hardware lol grrrrrrrr 5$#%$%#^ I don't know what to do. I feel like I've tried everything. I've tried game source and dxtory and screen region all is same On August 24 2012 04:16 Boblhead wrote:
Capture card should be the last thing you would want to do. I would say if reformatting your computer doesn't help then go ahead and buy a capture card.
if you do reformat your computer, make sure and image the fresh install just because its sooo much more easier when re installing windows if you would ever have to do it again.
another thing I know that with xsplit when there would be lag usually deleting your scenes/screen areas etc wouldn't help fix lag. Some times going to file -> new presentation would help as well, not sure if it applies to the version 1.0 of xsplit but it certainly helped in beta versions. Yeah I've tried all that...I've pretty much exhaused my options. He doesnt stream at 60 FPS. He can't even run the game at 60 towards the end of the game. And he doesnt even talk about jittering (not a function of FPS). I get frustrated whenever I read "omg I get 60 FPS" as well. I have an i5-2500k and 7970 and best minimum I can get is around 40 FPS (more if I run the same scenario many times). If you dont want to pony up the cash, thats very well fine. Another option is that you can wait and see what the future brings. That being said. Whats going on about your board? Your primary slot is fucked? EDIT: After reading about your motherboard you should return it if the primary slot is defective. The primary slot is a x16 slot running at x16 while the second slot is a x16 lane running at x4. I dont actually think you are having badnwidth problems but, if it doesnt work you should invoke the warranty on the board anyway. Who knows it might even fix your problem and we all learn something. Ah okay. Yeah the slot blew I think, not really sure why. I guess I'll see if the warenty is still valid and return. Okay so what do I need to get to have a good quality stream? I actually would prefer a laptop over a desktop (unless that decreases quality or whatnot...) Are we talking like a 400$ laptop 800$ laptop or? Sadly if you want a good laptop for gaming/streaming you need to spend at least around ~1600$ for it to be worth-while. I also would prefer a laptop to a desktop but its just not worth it
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On August 24 2012 04:43 Medrea wrote:
I guess that depends on what your definition of "good" is. That and I am not really good with laptops. I would personally use a mini ITX computer since Im not a fan of laptops and I think tablets and smartphones are the future in mobile technology anyway.
60 fps streams are still super rare, but man are they delicious aren't they?
"good" would be say idra's quality....or destinys...select has a delicious stream himself
I actually could use a laptop since I don't have a good one atm, old laptop is old. Not a huge fan of tablets and stuff ;s.
Just seems like a waste to buy a desktop just to sit next to my other desktop ;o
On August 24 2012 04:46 Zushen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 04:38 coL.Minigun wrote:On August 24 2012 04:34 Medrea wrote:On August 24 2012 04:20 coL.Minigun wrote:On August 24 2012 04:19 Avean wrote:
Your hardware is 10x better than mine and look at my stream, i stream at 60 fps at 720P and still have over 130 fps with my I7-960 CPU. If you are seeing "jittering" make sure you are using game source or dxtory as cam and not screen region. And bitrate has nothing to do with performance on your video. ugh that right there makes me sick and revert back to something must be wrong with my hardware lol grrrrrrrr 5$#%$%#^ I don't know what to do. I feel like I've tried everything. I've tried game source and dxtory and screen region all is same On August 24 2012 04:16 Boblhead wrote:
Capture card should be the last thing you would want to do. I would say if reformatting your computer doesn't help then go ahead and buy a capture card.
if you do reformat your computer, make sure and image the fresh install just because its sooo much more easier when re installing windows if you would ever have to do it again.
another thing I know that with xsplit when there would be lag usually deleting your scenes/screen areas etc wouldn't help fix lag. Some times going to file -> new presentation would help as well, not sure if it applies to the version 1.0 of xsplit but it certainly helped in beta versions. Yeah I've tried all that...I've pretty much exhaused my options. He doesnt stream at 60 FPS. He can't even run the game at 60 towards the end of the game. And he doesnt even talk about jittering (not a function of FPS). I get frustrated whenever I read "omg I get 60 FPS" as well. I have an i5-2500k and 7970 and best minimum I can get is around 40 FPS (more if I run the same scenario many times). If you dont want to pony up the cash, thats very well fine. Another option is that you can wait and see what the future brings. That being said. Whats going on about your board? Your primary slot is fucked? EDIT: After reading about your motherboard you should return it if the primary slot is defective. The primary slot is a x16 slot running at x16 while the second slot is a x16 lane running at x4. I dont actually think you are having badnwidth problems but, if it doesnt work you should invoke the warranty on the board anyway. Who knows it might even fix your problem and we all learn something. Ah okay. Yeah the slot blew I think, not really sure why. I guess I'll see if the warenty is still valid and return. Okay so what do I need to get to have a good quality stream? I actually would prefer a laptop over a desktop (unless that decreases quality or whatnot...) Are we talking like a 400$ laptop 800$ laptop or? Sadly if you want a good laptop for gaming/streaming you need to spend at least around ~1600$ for it to be worth-while. I also would prefer a laptop to a desktop but its just not worth it
really? o.O ooook desktop it is. I can't justify spending that much on a laptop that's mainly going to be used just for streaming.
So...what quality parts should I be looking at desktop wise.
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On August 24 2012 04:47 coL.Minigun wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 04:43 Medrea wrote:
I guess that depends on what your definition of "good" is. That and I am not really good with laptops. I would personally use a mini ITX computer since Im not a fan of laptops and I think tablets and smartphones are the future in mobile technology anyway.
60 fps streams are still super rare, but man are they delicious aren't they? "good" would be say idra's quality....or destinys...select has a delicious stream himself I actually could use a laptop since I don't have a good one atm, old laptop is old. Not a huge fan of tablets and stuff ;s. Just seems like a waste to buy a desktop just to sit next to my other desktop ;o
Well do you also want to be able to play games on a laptop as well? Cuz thats a whole nother bag of worms. And more expensive.
I havent actually checked Idras stream in awhile. All he had was some 480p, low sound quality, 24 FPS stream for a long long time. Thats what i was talking about. The stream itself wasnt amazing.
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On August 24 2012 04:47 coL.Minigun wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 04:43 Medrea wrote:
I guess that depends on what your definition of "good" is. That and I am not really good with laptops. I would personally use a mini ITX computer since Im not a fan of laptops and I think tablets and smartphones are the future in mobile technology anyway.
60 fps streams are still super rare, but man are they delicious aren't they? "good" would be say idra's quality....or destinys...select has a delicious stream himself I actually could use a laptop since I don't have a good one atm, old laptop is old. Not a huge fan of tablets and stuff ;s. Just seems like a waste to buy a desktop just to sit next to my other desktop ;o Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 04:46 Zushen wrote:On August 24 2012 04:38 coL.Minigun wrote:On August 24 2012 04:34 Medrea wrote:On August 24 2012 04:20 coL.Minigun wrote:On August 24 2012 04:19 Avean wrote:
Your hardware is 10x better than mine and look at my stream, i stream at 60 fps at 720P and still have over 130 fps with my I7-960 CPU. If you are seeing "jittering" make sure you are using game source or dxtory as cam and not screen region. And bitrate has nothing to do with performance on your video. ugh that right there makes me sick and revert back to something must be wrong with my hardware lol grrrrrrrr 5$#%$%#^ I don't know what to do. I feel like I've tried everything. I've tried game source and dxtory and screen region all is same On August 24 2012 04:16 Boblhead wrote:
Capture card should be the last thing you would want to do. I would say if reformatting your computer doesn't help then go ahead and buy a capture card.
if you do reformat your computer, make sure and image the fresh install just because its sooo much more easier when re installing windows if you would ever have to do it again.
another thing I know that with xsplit when there would be lag usually deleting your scenes/screen areas etc wouldn't help fix lag. Some times going to file -> new presentation would help as well, not sure if it applies to the version 1.0 of xsplit but it certainly helped in beta versions. Yeah I've tried all that...I've pretty much exhaused my options. He doesnt stream at 60 FPS. He can't even run the game at 60 towards the end of the game. And he doesnt even talk about jittering (not a function of FPS). I get frustrated whenever I read "omg I get 60 FPS" as well. I have an i5-2500k and 7970 and best minimum I can get is around 40 FPS (more if I run the same scenario many times). If you dont want to pony up the cash, thats very well fine. Another option is that you can wait and see what the future brings. That being said. Whats going on about your board? Your primary slot is fucked? EDIT: After reading about your motherboard you should return it if the primary slot is defective. The primary slot is a x16 slot running at x16 while the second slot is a x16 lane running at x4. I dont actually think you are having badnwidth problems but, if it doesnt work you should invoke the warranty on the board anyway. Who knows it might even fix your problem and we all learn something. Ah okay. Yeah the slot blew I think, not really sure why. I guess I'll see if the warenty is still valid and return. Okay so what do I need to get to have a good quality stream? I actually would prefer a laptop over a desktop (unless that decreases quality or whatnot...) Are we talking like a 400$ laptop 800$ laptop or? Sadly if you want a good laptop for gaming/streaming you need to spend at least around ~1600$ for it to be worth-while. I also would prefer a laptop to a desktop but its just not worth it really? o.O ooook desktop it is. I can't justify spending that much on a laptop that's mainly going to be used just for streaming. So...what quality parts should I be looking at desktop wise.
Building a mini computer would be way less expensive because you only need two quality components, the processor and the capture card but I would NOT expect to get out of the deal for less than $500. Thats why Im suggesting returning the motherboard. Maybe you can fix this for the cost of nothing but invoking the warranty.
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On August 24 2012 04:47 coL.Minigun wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 04:43 Medrea wrote:
I guess that depends on what your definition of "good" is. That and I am not really good with laptops. I would personally use a mini ITX computer since Im not a fan of laptops and I think tablets and smartphones are the future in mobile technology anyway.
60 fps streams are still super rare, but man are they delicious aren't they? "good" would be say idra's quality....or destinys...select has a delicious stream himself I actually could use a laptop since I don't have a good one atm, old laptop is old. Not a huge fan of tablets and stuff ;s. Just seems like a waste to buy a desktop just to sit next to my other desktop ;o
well if your mobo on your current desktop is still under warranty and you send it back then it would be perfect for 2 pc setup. Having a laptop/ desktop in my opinion would be a good 2 pc stream
well if you were looking to do a 2 pc stream, depends what you want to play on. The laptop would depending on what you would want to play at would have to be good enough for low/med/high/ultra. You could be looking at $800 but if you wanted 1080p output you would need a fairly decent GPU say if you wanted to play med/high settings. If you can find a laptop with like a gtx 460m that would be good enough to play med/high settings @ 1080p. I think you would need at least 2 monitors, and maybe a splitter, so if your laptop you would play through the HDMI or DVI output on the laptop and have it run to one monitor, and the splitter end would run to the capturecard on your current desktop. I would say if you did get your desktop fixed with the motherboard and you got a laptop you would be looking at maybe $700-1200 (this price would include laptop, capturecard, maybe other things needed for 2 pc streaming) and if your just looking for a laptop for streaming anywhere from $1200 for older sandy bridge i7's to $1500+ for i7 ivy bridge laptops.
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When streaming using 2 computers with one of them being the laptop. You play on the PC and the laptop does the streaming through VLC. Not the other way around. Capture card is with two PC's only I think.
Argh I get so lost sometimes.
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On August 24 2012 04:52 Boblhead wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 04:47 coL.Minigun wrote:On August 24 2012 04:43 Medrea wrote:
I guess that depends on what your definition of "good" is. That and I am not really good with laptops. I would personally use a mini ITX computer since Im not a fan of laptops and I think tablets and smartphones are the future in mobile technology anyway.
60 fps streams are still super rare, but man are they delicious aren't they? "good" would be say idra's quality....or destinys...select has a delicious stream himself I actually could use a laptop since I don't have a good one atm, old laptop is old. Not a huge fan of tablets and stuff ;s. Just seems like a waste to buy a desktop just to sit next to my other desktop ;o well if your mobo on your current desktop is still under warranty and you send it back then it would be perfect for 2 pc setup. Having a laptop/ desktop in my opinion would be a good 2 pc stream well if you were looking to do a 2 pc stream, depends what you want to play on. The laptop would depending on what you would want to play at would have to be good enough for low/med/high/ultra. You could be looking at $800 but if you wanted 1080p output you would need a fairly decent GPU say if you wanted to play med/high settings. If you can find a laptop with like a gtx 460m that would be good enough to play med/high settings @ 1080p. I think you would need at least 2 monitors, and maybe a splitter, so if your laptop you would play through the HDMI or DVI output on the laptop and have it run to one monitor, and the splitter end would run to the capturecard on your current desktop. I would say if you did get your desktop fixed with the motherboard and you got a laptop you would be looking at maybe $700-1200 (this price would include laptop, capturecard, maybe other things needed for 2 pc streaming) and if your just looking for a laptop for streaming anywhere from $1200 for older sandy bridge i7's to $1500+ for i7 ivy bridge laptops.
hmmmmmmmm
decisions decisions
On August 24 2012 04:49 Medrea wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 04:47 coL.Minigun wrote:On August 24 2012 04:43 Medrea wrote:
I guess that depends on what your definition of "good" is. That and I am not really good with laptops. I would personally use a mini ITX computer since Im not a fan of laptops and I think tablets and smartphones are the future in mobile technology anyway.
60 fps streams are still super rare, but man are they delicious aren't they? "good" would be say idra's quality....or destinys...select has a delicious stream himself I actually could use a laptop since I don't have a good one atm, old laptop is old. Not a huge fan of tablets and stuff ;s. Just seems like a waste to buy a desktop just to sit next to my other desktop ;o Well do you also want to be able to play games on a laptop as well? Cuz thats a whole nother bag of worms. And more expensive. I havent actually checked Idras stream in awhile. All he had was some 480p, low sound quality, 24 FPS stream for a long long time. Thats what i was talking about. The stream itself wasnt amazing.
Ah weird, I don't remember it being that bad. o.O
On August 24 2012 04:51 Medrea wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 04:47 coL.Minigun wrote:On August 24 2012 04:43 Medrea wrote:
I guess that depends on what your definition of "good" is. That and I am not really good with laptops. I would personally use a mini ITX computer since Im not a fan of laptops and I think tablets and smartphones are the future in mobile technology anyway.
60 fps streams are still super rare, but man are they delicious aren't they? "good" would be say idra's quality....or destinys...select has a delicious stream himself I actually could use a laptop since I don't have a good one atm, old laptop is old. Not a huge fan of tablets and stuff ;s. Just seems like a waste to buy a desktop just to sit next to my other desktop ;o On August 24 2012 04:46 Zushen wrote:On August 24 2012 04:38 coL.Minigun wrote:On August 24 2012 04:34 Medrea wrote:On August 24 2012 04:20 coL.Minigun wrote:On August 24 2012 04:19 Avean wrote:
Your hardware is 10x better than mine and look at my stream, i stream at 60 fps at 720P and still have over 130 fps with my I7-960 CPU. If you are seeing "jittering" make sure you are using game source or dxtory as cam and not screen region. And bitrate has nothing to do with performance on your video. ugh that right there makes me sick and revert back to something must be wrong with my hardware lol grrrrrrrr 5$#%$%#^ I don't know what to do. I feel like I've tried everything. I've tried game source and dxtory and screen region all is same On August 24 2012 04:16 Boblhead wrote:
Capture card should be the last thing you would want to do. I would say if reformatting your computer doesn't help then go ahead and buy a capture card.
if you do reformat your computer, make sure and image the fresh install just because its sooo much more easier when re installing windows if you would ever have to do it again.
another thing I know that with xsplit when there would be lag usually deleting your scenes/screen areas etc wouldn't help fix lag. Some times going to file -> new presentation would help as well, not sure if it applies to the version 1.0 of xsplit but it certainly helped in beta versions. Yeah I've tried all that...I've pretty much exhaused my options. He doesnt stream at 60 FPS. He can't even run the game at 60 towards the end of the game. And he doesnt even talk about jittering (not a function of FPS). I get frustrated whenever I read "omg I get 60 FPS" as well. I have an i5-2500k and 7970 and best minimum I can get is around 40 FPS (more if I run the same scenario many times). If you dont want to pony up the cash, thats very well fine. Another option is that you can wait and see what the future brings. That being said. Whats going on about your board? Your primary slot is fucked? EDIT: After reading about your motherboard you should return it if the primary slot is defective. The primary slot is a x16 slot running at x16 while the second slot is a x16 lane running at x4. I dont actually think you are having badnwidth problems but, if it doesnt work you should invoke the warranty on the board anyway. Who knows it might even fix your problem and we all learn something. Ah okay. Yeah the slot blew I think, not really sure why. I guess I'll see if the warenty is still valid and return. Okay so what do I need to get to have a good quality stream? I actually would prefer a laptop over a desktop (unless that decreases quality or whatnot...) Are we talking like a 400$ laptop 800$ laptop or? Sadly if you want a good laptop for gaming/streaming you need to spend at least around ~1600$ for it to be worth-while. I also would prefer a laptop to a desktop but its just not worth it really? o.O ooook desktop it is. I can't justify spending that much on a laptop that's mainly going to be used just for streaming. So...what quality parts should I be looking at desktop wise. Building a mini computer would be way less expensive because you only need two quality components, the processor and the capture card but I would NOT expect to get out of the deal for less than $500. Thats why Im suggesting returning the motherboard. Maybe you can fix this for the cost of nothing but invoking the warranty.
I had this problem before that pci slot blew, so I'm not too hopeful it will fix it but I'll defintely try it.
And no I'd only want something to stream off of.
On August 24 2012 04:55 Medrea wrote:
When streaming using 2 computers with one of them being the laptop. You play on the PC and the laptop does the streaming through VLC. Not the other way around. Capture card is with two PC's only I think.
Argh I get so lost sometimes.
ahh hmm
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OK here's the deal. I am SUPER sensitive to framerate alterations and smooth gameplay. I don't let it get to me or let it break my focus on the game, but I definitely can see it.
Since its not my money, but yours, I could say just throw money at the problem but the science nerd in me says we havent eliminated all variables of the problem, and that your slot may have been freaking out in a manner I have never before seen happen. So I would say before buying anything see if a mobo repair doesnt work.
I wish more pro players lived in the Connecticut area so I could personally diagnose these tricky "only the eye can see" problems. Because in the end I dont know if your issue is caused by software, hardware, or just the laws of physics at work.
The differences between kinda jerky, quite a bit jerky, very jerky, are very small but with 3 different contributors. I can tell the difference between all three. But they have to be sitting right in front of me.
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