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Sovano
United States1503 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 23 2012 21:37 Shikyo wrote: Too easy to press down? That's a really weird complaint. Try buckling spring switches, they're my second-favorite after Topres. What do topres feel like? Cuz I've tried all types of Cherry MX switches (except green), and I've had a buckling spring keyboard for a while. I know topres go for a fucking premium, how would you describe the feel? Man, I've noticed some of the main complaints of mechanical keyboards, are usually about the brown switches... If you're a heavy typist, pretty much only look into blacks and buckling springs. I recently just got CM Quickfire Rapid TKL Blue switches, after a year and half of using Unicomp Model M (buckling springs), first 2-3 hours, tons of typos, the lightness of Blues (compared to buckling springs) is completely different. But, now, after a couple of days, my typing accuracy/speed is back to normal again, and I'm bottoming out less often. It's sort of like when you get a new mouse when your old one dies out, there's going to be a period of time where you'll need to get use to it, but most importantly is to actively try and get use to it. | ||
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ljd1131
Australia83 Posts
On September 24 2012 01:33 wei2coolman wrote: What do topres feel like? Cuz I've tried all types of Cherry MX switches (except green), and I've had a buckling spring keyboard for a while. I know topres go for a fucking premium, how would you describe the feel? Man, I've noticed some of the main complaints of mechanical keyboards, are usually about the brown switches... If you're a heavy typist, pretty much only look into blacks and buckling springs. I recently just got CM Quickfire Rapid TKL Blue switches, after a year and half of using Unicomp Model M (buckling springs), first 2-3 hours, tons of typos, the lightness of Blues (compared to buckling springs) is completely different. But, now, after a couple of days, my typing accuracy/speed is back to normal again, and I'm bottoming out less often. It's sort of like when you get a new mouse when your old one dies out, there's going to be a period of time where you'll need to get use to it, but most importantly is to actively try and get use to it. I do kinda hammer the keys when i type and play sc | ||
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Sovano
United States1503 Posts
On September 24 2012 01:33 wei2coolman wrote: What do topres feel like? Cuz I've tried all types of Cherry MX switches (except green), and I've had a buckling spring keyboard for a while. I know topres go for a fucking premium, how would you describe the feel? Man, I've noticed some of the main complaints of mechanical keyboards, are usually about the brown switches... If you're a heavy typist, pretty much only look into blacks and buckling springs. I recently just got CM Quickfire Rapid TKL Blue switches, after a year and half of using Unicomp Model M (buckling springs), first 2-3 hours, tons of typos, the lightness of Blues (compared to buckling springs) is completely different. But, now, after a couple of days, my typing accuracy/speed is back to normal again, and I'm bottoming out less often. It's sort of like when you get a new mouse when your old one dies out, there's going to be a period of time where you'll need to get use to it, but most importantly is to actively try and get use to it. Hehe yeah it took me a few days to get used to my Razer DA that I got two weeks ago. It was bigger than any mouse I've ever used so I had a long streak of losses that week when I played SC2. Now whenever I use a standard mouse it just feels awkward. | ||
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ljd1131
Australia83 Posts
On September 24 2012 01:33 wei2coolman wrote: What do topres feel like? Cuz I've tried all types of Cherry MX switches (except green), and I've had a buckling spring keyboard for a while. I know topres go for a fucking premium, how would you describe the feel? Man, I've noticed some of the main complaints of mechanical keyboards, are usually about the brown switches... If you're a heavy typist, pretty much only look into blacks and buckling springs. I recently just got CM Quickfire Rapid TKL Blue switches, after a year and half of using Unicomp Model M (buckling springs), first 2-3 hours, tons of typos, the lightness of Blues (compared to buckling springs) is completely different. But, now, after a couple of days, my typing accuracy/speed is back to normal again, and I'm bottoming out less often. It's sort of like when you get a new mouse when your old one dies out, there's going to be a period of time where you'll need to get use to it, but most importantly is to actively try and get use to it. what the difference feel like between brown and black? the keyboards i can get shipped very easily are the Filco majestouch 2 TKL and the Leopold fc700r could someone tell me the differences between them thx | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
Pretty much everything you need to know about mechanical keyboards. Filco and Leopold, pretty similar, again, biggest difference between keyboards you should be looking for are, form factor, and additional features. You can pretty much get keyboard any switch you want. | ||
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Lu_e
United States95 Posts
Filco uses Costar stabilizers & come apart / rebuild easier I think. Also I think filco are made in Costar factories which are supposedly known for their good quality control. BOTH are quality keyboards so no worry there, just get the Filco! unless the leopold is much less and you are trying to save $. I upgraded to a CMStorm Quickfire Rapid red version & my biggest deciding factor was it being made by Costar factories. But again, the Leopold is built well also! They are probably the 2 best readily available Cherry switch keyboards. | ||
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EnderSword
Canada669 Posts
Only think I do not like, is the Macro keys are on the left side so I find those a little annoying. I just leave them blank since you can't used for SC2 anyway. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On September 24 2012 01:33 wei2coolman wrote: What do topres feel like? Cuz I've tried all types of Cherry MX switches (except green), and I've had a buckling spring keyboard for a while. I know topres go for a fucking premium, how would you describe the feel? Man, I've noticed some of the main complaints of mechanical keyboards, are usually about the brown switches... If you're a heavy typist, pretty much only look into blacks and buckling springs. I recently just got CM Quickfire Rapid TKL Blue switches, after a year and half of using Unicomp Model M (buckling springs), first 2-3 hours, tons of typos, the lightness of Blues (compared to buckling springs) is completely different. But, now, after a couple of days, my typing accuracy/speed is back to normal again, and I'm bottoming out less often. It's sort of like when you get a new mouse when your old one dies out, there's going to be a period of time where you'll need to get use to it, but most importantly is to actively try and get use to it. What do topres feel like? Well ... To me, they feel like worn-down membranes. Like ones you've used for 10 years and that don't work properly anymore. But mysteriously they do work properly. They feel far better than any cherry switch I've tried, for sure. Need to apply some force to make it move and when it starts moving it's pretty difficult to keep it from bottoming out. It doesn't really feel like a mech board, as I said it's more like screwed up membranes that aren't screwed up. About the realforce board, never seen build quality come even close to this. Everything's just there and just works, nothing feels like it's unstable etc | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On September 24 2012 09:11 wei2coolman wrote: Hmmmm, that's an interesting description for topres..... Maybe when I start making some real money, I might think about investing into a topre board, but for now I'm content with my CMstorm Quickfire Rapid, blue switches. Sad that it's so much easier to get one of those in the US, i really want one of those as well but it's a pain in the ass to get by when you live in europe. | ||
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On September 24 2012 06:17 Shikyo wrote: What do topres feel like? Well ... To me, they feel like worn-down membranes. Like ones you've used for 10 years and that don't work properly anymore. But mysteriously they do work properly. They feel far better than any cherry switch I've tried, for sure. Need to apply some force to make it move and when it starts moving it's pretty difficult to keep it from bottoming out. It doesn't really feel like a mech board, as I said it's more like screwed up membranes that aren't screwed up. About the realforce board, never seen build quality come even close to this. Everything's just there and just works, nothing feels like it's unstable etc Eh, when you say membranes..do you mean membranes or rubber domes? Because there is a difference. | ||
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Sovano
United States1503 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On September 24 2012 22:14 Fragile51 wrote: Eh, when you say membranes..do you mean membranes or rubber domes? Because there is a difference. Technically yes, but I mean rubber domes. Haven't seen people refer to those when saying membrane in like 50 years | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
After some time though, I got used to the feel of the deck and now I love it. The keyboard looks much better in person too, the pictures don't do it justice. And knowing that unlike my old blackwidow it won't randomly crap out on me or stop working if I breathe on it too hard or something, makes it look even better because I can see it for the big typing tank that it really is. I originally bought the black widow ultimate because I didn't know much about mechanical keyboards, and my only experience with gaming peripheral companies at that point was my razer deathadder which served me well for a long time. I got it because it looked really cool and I thought the loud clicky switches were cool. Sadly most of the black widows price comes from all the macro keys, media keys, backlighting options, and logo, and not the quality. I never used any of the fancy things on it that it's sold around, never used the macro keys, or media keys. Which is why I love my deck legend so much, it's just a plain keyboard with backlighting. No useless macro keys or "gaming keys." Just a solid mechanical keyboard with backlighting, built to withstand anything short of a nuclear holocaust it seems. | ||
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Sovano
United States1503 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On September 05 2012 09:40 ToREcho[5] wrote: people generally give blackwidow a good review as its their first mechanical keyboard (as they are more widely accessible than the other brands). you say your looking at the ducky, but the shine and the TKL are two different models. As already said, Ive heard bad things about the clear switches on the backspace and spacebar on the TKL, but nothing about that on the shine. filco das and ducky are generally better than any of the 'gaming' brands, steelseries > razer imo. afaik ducky is from taiwan and filco is from japan actually. i recommend you go to youtube and watch as many reviews as you can on whatever youre interested in. Its because Razer has done fucking well in advertising their product to gamers out there. They sponsor many progamers and progaming teams and have gotten their name out there. Steel Series would be behind Razer. As a result of the advertising many people just simply think their Razer product is the shit when they break their "mechanical keyboard cherry". Although six months to a year later they usually break down because of some issue. That's why we see so many posts and threads about razer keyboard issues. The SS 6gv2 seems to be built pretty well. Anyways enough of my ranting. I'd recommend either filcos or leopolds if you can get a hold of them. I've literally only seen a handful of negativity towards the products in the past year. They're pretty solid brands with solid products. Some people actually do utilize the extra features on keyboards in general. I myself find the multimedia keys very useful when playing SC2 or just games in general. Whether its just pausing a song, skipping a song, or adjusting the volume. However for a majority of users they're useless. I don't think I've seen anyone really use macro keys either. Backlit keyboards aren't necessary either. Really the main thing you need is switch type and board size in my opinion. | ||
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Wedge
Canada580 Posts
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Sovano
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Wartortle
Australia504 Posts
On September 24 2012 03:50 ljd1131 wrote: what the difference feel like between brown and black? the keyboards i can get shipped very easily are the Filco majestouch 2 TKL and the Leopold fc700r could someone tell me the differences between them thx Firstly, there is a TKL version of Dt-35, it has a different name but if you google enough youll find it, or check ebay. Secondly, if you hated a brown switch leopold, your not going to enjoy any mechanical keyboard thats tactile, and probably not even one that isnt. It sounds like your issue is key spacing and size, and all mechanical keyboards are fairly standard in this area. The filco and leopold are similar enough that you wont really notice a difference between them. It sounds to me like you need to buy a new Dt-35, and find the TKL one if you can. I do believe that you would find a mechanical keyboard to be superior over time, but it does take some getting used to. GSLs have been won on DT-35s and mechanical boards, so either way is going to be fine, just pick one and stick with it. | ||
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