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TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
February 28 2012 16:41 GMT
#1161
So good to see JingleHell back
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
February 28 2012 16:42 GMT
#1162
On February 29 2012 01:41 TheToast wrote:
So good to see JingleHell back


Somehow I doubt that's a majority opinion, but thanks.
Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 17:31:59
February 28 2012 17:19 GMT
#1163
There was a dynamic vcore option (DPI) but it didnt come up with 1.0 - ~1.6v.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 28 2012 17:32 GMT
#1164
I assume you have a Gigabyte board... in which case, dynamic vcore is not called DPI, it's called DVID. It adds or subtracts from the voltage that the CPU is requesting for.
Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
February 28 2012 17:35 GMT
#1165
On February 29 2012 02:32 skyR wrote:
I assume you have a Gigabyte board... in which case, dynamic vcore is not called DPI, it's called DVID. It adds or subtracts from the voltage that the CPU is requesting for.

Yup, you're right, it was DVID.

Still got the same problem though. No vcore option.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 28 2012 17:36 GMT
#1166
DVID is a vcore option -_- If you wanted manual than you should have gotten a different board that allowed for manual.
Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
February 28 2012 17:40 GMT
#1167
ok.... Well.... how do i change the voltage then?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 28 2012 17:42 GMT
#1168
Did you not read what I wrote? You change voltage by changing the DVID. If the CPU asks for 1.2v and you change to +1v than you're making it 2.2v (don't change to +1v, it was an example).
Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
February 28 2012 17:43 GMT
#1169
And the QPI is the processors requesting voltage?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 17:45:34
February 28 2012 17:44 GMT
#1170
You should be changing it by REALLY small increments, to be more specific. And no. Reset the QPI to default and don't touch it again. In fact, unless you're willing to do some homework, that's the best advice you're going to get for your entire BIOS. Dicking around with random settings is a good way to have dead hardware.
Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
February 28 2012 17:45 GMT
#1171
On February 29 2012 02:44 JingleHell wrote:
You should be changing it by REALLY small increments, to be more specific. And no. Reset the QPI to default and don't touch it again.

Ofc.. This is something i AM going to be working through very thoroughly.
Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
February 28 2012 17:46 GMT
#1172
Then what is the requesting voltage for an i5 2500k?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
February 28 2012 17:48 GMT
#1173
On February 29 2012 02:46 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Then what is the requesting voltage for an i5 2500k?


Varies by mobo and BIOS, and what the chip actually needs varies wildly. What you should be asking is "between increments x, y, and z, which should I raise it by first?".
Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
February 28 2012 17:51 GMT
#1174
How do i find out?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 18:00:30
February 28 2012 17:57 GMT
#1175
If you decide to fixate on information you don't desperately need, you find out by asking your mobo manufacturer. They'll need model number and BIOS version to answer you. And then it will still not matter what the value is currently, because that's only part of the puzzle, since your individual piece of silicon will handle differently than any other one.

Thus, what matters is whether it's stable at the clock you want, and if not, you need to raise the DVID number by a SMALL increment, somewhere in the 1-2mv range, and test for stability again. To give you an idea, to turn on HT on my i7 930@3.8, I go from 1.25625v Vcore to 1.2625v Vcore, and that's a HUGE jump that causes heat issues long term (partly due to HT being insanely hotter clock for clock.)

Mind you, that's with a proper manual Vcore setting, and it's for a different generation CPU, and it serves ONLY as an example of the numbers involved and what counts as a big jump, NOT any indication of what you should be using.
Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 18:04:44
February 28 2012 18:01 GMT
#1176
Well, earlier when i accidentally raised the clock to 4.5 ghz and the QPI to 1.24v i forgot to change the clock back down and it booted fine. Does that mean its a relatively stable clock?

I know that i need to do stress testing at those clocks but i originally thought that if you didnt raise the voltage but you raised the clock, the system would refuse to boot. Therefore, i came to this conclusion.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
February 28 2012 18:04 GMT
#1177
On February 29 2012 03:01 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Well, earlier when i accidentally raised the clock to 4.5 ghz and the QPI to 1.24v i forgot to change the clock back down and it booted fine. Does that mean its a relatively stable clock?


No. It means you booted. That's like saying you woke up in the morning, so you don't have high cholesterol. For a stability test, you need a CPU stress test, run 6-8 hours.
Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
February 28 2012 18:07 GMT
#1178
Ok. just changed the clock back to 4.5ghz and will now run a prime95 mark for the next few hours. What settings should i be using on prime95?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
February 28 2012 18:13 GMT
#1179
On February 29 2012 03:07 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Ok. just changed the clock back to 4.5ghz and will now run a prime95 mark for the next few hours. What settings should i be using on prime95?


Torture test, blend, with an appropriate number of threads. As in, one per core, unless you have HT, at which point 2 per core.

There's other stress tests you can use if you have end up running across stability issues later. Different tests do different things different ways, and some things won't hammer it appropriately for the load you end up using. P95 is a good baseline for mild to moderate OCs though.
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 18:14:58
February 28 2012 18:13 GMT
#1180
On February 29 2012 03:04 JingleHell wrote:

No. It means you booted. That's like saying you woke up in the morning, so you don't have high cholesterol.

LOL

@Josh_rakoons

I would initially do 10 to 20 cycles of IntelBurnTest / LinX (same thing) with all available RAM. That'll find instability quicker than Prime95. Monitor your temps closely though, as those programs (linpack essentially) tend to heat up the CPU more than Prime. They're not kidding when they call it "burn test". If it goes above 75*C I'd stop the test.

Idk if 6+ hours of Prime95 blend is still required to prove complete stability after passing linpack.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
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