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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-16 23:45:46
April 16 2015 23:45 GMT
#10641
On April 17 2015 08:38 Craton wrote:
You can use one of r1ch's tools ( https://r-1.ch/analyzer/ ) to measure a particular stream or just watch your network activity.

For example (picked top viewer streamer from 3 games at the present time):
TSM_TheOddOne is 1965 kbps with a deviation of ±101.47 kbps (just under 2 MB/s)
syndicate is 3120 kbps with a deviation of ±117.51 kbps. (about 3MB/s)
trumpsc is 2947 kbps with a deviation of ±87.85 kbps. (about 3MB/s)

From my experience, a solid 720p quality is going to run closer to 3MB/s, but you still get good quality streams at 2MB/s.

Incidentally, that means:

(Note: MB = megabyte, Mb = megabit; one megbyte is 8 megabits.)

2MB/s
2 * 60 = 120 MB/min
120 * 60 = 7,200 MB/hr = ~57,600Mb/hr

Yes, that's 7 gigs of data an hour. If it's 3 MB/s then it's over 10 an hour.

It's part of why bandwidth caps are a crock and why I roll my eyes so hard every time an advertises how fast it is while having a data cap. Most people with a cap and high speeds could exhaust their entire cap in under a day.


3660kbit/s (max video bitrate for twitch +160kbit aac audio) = 1.571 gigabytes per hour. You're using megabyte sign for megabit and maybe mixing them up still
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-16 23:51:13
April 16 2015 23:47 GMT
#10642
Shit, I realized what I did wrong now. I didn't mix up the symbols, but I did convert 2000kbps wrongly to 2MB/s. (It's 2Mb/s, or 0.25 MB/s).

I'll edit my other post to avoid confusion. (My little rant about one's ability to kill a cap in a day part was actually accurate, though a bit off topic =P)
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-17 01:28:52
April 16 2015 23:56 GMT
#10643
yea :D

There are ISP's here giving 100mbit lines with like 200GB soft caps. If you put it under load you'd hit cap two thirds of the way into the first day of the month.

uk internet infrastructure is BAD though or at least very inconsistent
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-17 19:38:53
April 17 2015 18:34 GMT
#10644
Thank you, then I should buy a WLAN Card for my Computer (is using DLAN for years). The difference is really amazing.

Edit: 695MB data in exactly 23min. This means 0.50MB/s. Almost twice faster than DLAN.
4Mbit/s is very good for advertised 6Mbit/s. My DLAN manages mostly 0.25MB/s.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
April 17 2015 20:19 GMT
#10645
I'm buying heatsinks for the VRMs on my 290X because since replacing the stock blower cooler I no longer have the big plate cooling them and get go up to 100C in HWinfo on VRM1 under load.

Is it important to get heatsinks for the VRAM as well? I don't have temperature sensors on them, but from looking at reviews using thermal cameras it seems the back of card where the chips are can get into the 50-60 range so maybe the chips themselves also get pretty hot.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
April 17 2015 20:33 GMT
#10646
On April 18 2015 05:19 Zess wrote:
I'm buying heatsinks for the VRMs on my 290X because since replacing the stock blower cooler I no longer have the big plate cooling them and get go up to 100C in HWinfo on VRM1 under load.

Is it important to get heatsinks for the VRAM as well? I don't have temperature sensors on them, but from looking at reviews using thermal cameras it seems the back of card where the chips are can get into the 50-60 range so maybe the chips themselves also get pretty hot.


If you can, do it. In some cases (though i don't think i've seen it on 290/290x's exactly) VRAM can get to 80c+ which isn't good. VRAM heatsinks shouldn't be very expensive, either.

They will be hotter at OC, they come stock at 5000mhz (1250) but clock to ~5800-6400 sometimes (idk if ranges near that high is regular, or it's normally lower)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
April 17 2015 20:51 GMT
#10647
On April 18 2015 05:33 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2015 05:19 Zess wrote:
I'm buying heatsinks for the VRMs on my 290X because since replacing the stock blower cooler I no longer have the big plate cooling them and get go up to 100C in HWinfo on VRM1 under load.

Is it important to get heatsinks for the VRAM as well? I don't have temperature sensors on them, but from looking at reviews using thermal cameras it seems the back of card where the chips are can get into the 50-60 range so maybe the chips themselves also get pretty hot.


If you can, do it. In some cases (though i don't think i've seen it on 290/290x's exactly) VRAM can get to 80c+ which isn't good. VRAM heatsinks shouldn't be very expensive, either.

They will be hotter at OC, they come stock at 5000mhz (1250) but clock to ~5800-6400 sometimes (idk if ranges near that high is regular, or it's normally lower)

Ok thanks!

Planning on using these to core the core VRMs: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/5557/vid-86/Swiftech_MC21_Aluminum_MOSFET_Heatsinks_-_21mm_x_6mm_x_10mm_-_4_pack_.html

3 of these to cool the 3 VRMs by the memory: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/17727/vid-191/Micro_Thermal_Heatsink_-_65mm_x_65mm_x_12mm_for_Motherboard_MOS.html

And then a 2pack of these for the RAM: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/25529/vid-253/Heatkiller_Passive_VGA_RAM_Sinks_-_8_Pack_-_Black_68001.html
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
April 17 2015 23:58 GMT
#10648
On April 17 2015 08:56 Cyro wrote:
yea :D

There are ISP's here giving 100mbit lines with like 200GB soft caps. If you put it under load you'd hit cap two thirds of the way into the first day of the month.

uk internet infrastructure is BAD though or at least very inconsistent

That's similar to what we get here. There are some without caps, some with unenforced caps, and some moving toward caps in the future. I've seen caps 250-350GB and heard talk of 500GB/month. The plans are usually closer to 50-75 Mbps down.
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-18 00:41:46
April 18 2015 00:38 GMT
#10649
My buddy needs private bittorrenting. There are some services like BTguard and Torguard. Are those reliable, or what's a good affordable solution? He lives in Minnesota if that matters.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 18 2015 00:45 GMT
#10650
Get any reputable VPN if you are using public trackers or get a seedbox (that may also provide VPN) if you use private trackers. Whatbox is one option for a seedbox that comes with VPN. Or switch to usenet.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-18 00:52:44
April 18 2015 00:52 GMT
#10651
On April 18 2015 09:45 skyR wrote:
Get any reputable VPN if you are using public trackers or get a seedbox (that may also provide VPN) if you use private trackers. Whatbox is one option for a seedbox that comes with VPN. Or switch to usenet.

Are proxies insufficiently secure? Torguard would have a proxy for $47/yr, which I thought would be safe enough. Paying more for a VPN might be reasonable if it's necessary, although I'm not at all familiar with which ones are reputable.

Also I'm not familiar with seedboxes, they do see a bit too expensive though.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 18 2015 01:21 GMT
#10652
Main difference between proxy and VPN is encryption. If your friend isn't concerned with eavesdroppers on their connection than a proxy will probably be fine. If your friend isn't already using private trackers than they should probably consider it as well if he's concerned about his pirating.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-18 01:28:34
April 18 2015 01:28 GMT
#10653
On April 18 2015 10:21 skyR wrote:
Main difference between proxy and VPN is encryption. If your friend isn't concerned with eavesdroppers on their connection than a proxy will probably be fine. If your friend isn't already using private trackers than they should probably consider it as well if he's concerned about his pirating.

Alright, wasn't aware that proxies couldn't also be encrypted. VPN it is then. Any suggestions? Anything available in the $60/yr range?
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 18 2015 01:32 GMT
#10654
Unfortunately I don't use VPNs or proxies, you can try asking around on /r/vpn and /r/torrents
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
April 18 2015 01:34 GMT
#10655
You can also use a seedbox as an intermediary.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
April 18 2015 01:42 GMT
#10656
Alright thanks a lot guys
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
April 18 2015 12:37 GMT
#10657
God, I should have bought that WLAN USB-stick 10 years earlier -.-

I have 6000kbit/s (advertised) Internet. My DLAN only manages 230KB/s (1840kbit/s) on good days. I bought a TP Link TL-WS722N (150mbit/s) for 10€ today. It manages 485KB/s (3880kbit/s) on average. Signal level is always between 2-3 of 5.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
April 18 2015 16:41 GMT
#10658
I have a laptop with an I7 core + ati hd5730 gpu.. (so an old Laptop)

For the past year (or 2-3 years), my sister complained that the laptop was slow (I've finished university, so I don't really use it anymore, so I gave it to my sister). I noticed it was running very hot. A CPU temperature tool I downloaded was telling me that the computer was running close to 100c. The computer would sometimes crash when playing D3.

Today, I decided to clean it and re-apply new Thermal paste (the thermal paste is about 5-7 years old... so I wasn't sure if it was still good to use. Anyway, I cleaned and applied new thermal paste on my Laptop (it was quite a feat to open it and clean it!)

Right now, the temperature of CPU is down to 55 (min) - 77 (max) when running a Load test (not sure what it is, but it came with the CPU temperature tool).

Question : I checked online and put a "grain" of thermal paste on both GPU + CPU. However, the CPU was rectangular (on the screenshots, most of the CPU are square or circle). Wondering if 1 grain of rice was still the right amount?

Also, can a thermal paste expire? (Assuming it had been kept in its original package at room temperature).

Are the temperatures fine? Or should they be lower?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-18 16:56:24
April 18 2015 16:55 GMT
#10659
On April 19 2015 01:41 XenOmega wrote:
I have a laptop with an I7 core + ati hd5730 gpu.. (so an old Laptop)

For the past year (or 2-3 years), my sister complained that the laptop was slow (I've finished university, so I don't really use it anymore, so I gave it to my sister). I noticed it was running very hot. A CPU temperature tool I downloaded was telling me that the computer was running close to 100c. The computer would sometimes crash when playing D3.

Today, I decided to clean it and re-apply new Thermal paste (the thermal paste is about 5-7 years old... so I wasn't sure if it was still good to use. Anyway, I cleaned and applied new thermal paste on my Laptop (it was quite a feat to open it and clean it!)

Right now, the temperature of CPU is down to 55 (min) - 77 (max) when running a Load test (not sure what it is, but it came with the CPU temperature tool).

Question : I checked online and put a "grain" of thermal paste on both GPU + CPU. However, the CPU was rectangular (on the screenshots, most of the CPU are square or circle). Wondering if 1 grain of rice was still the right amount?

Also, can a thermal paste expire? (Assuming it had been kept in its original package at room temperature).

Are the temperatures fine? Or should they be lower?


It spreads a LOT, people usually use too much. I'm not sure exactly what you should do for putting it directly on a CPU die for a laptop, though (for perfect application)

temps look alright but it's hard to say without some more info:

1; i7 is a range of CPU's, not a model number. Saying "an i7" isn't much information when we have dual and quad core "i7" laptop CPU's across soon to be 6 generations

2; depends what the load test is

thermal paste does have limited lifespan i think, but most good ones will last a very long time.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-18 17:01:01
April 18 2015 16:59 GMT
#10660
i7 -720qm is the cpu!

I've stopped the test after 10minutes. The temperatures seem to be settling at around 55-60 on idle
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