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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
April 02 2015 21:29 GMT
#10601
On April 02 2015 10:36 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
As an added question, i really see no reason to upgrade my I5-2500K to a newer model, they dont seem to offer much more in terms of performance and this 2500k running @ 4.2ghz does me perfectly fine.


We're only one gen ahead of the 2500k atm. A 4690k at ~4.6ghz could be around ~20-25% faster than your CPU for CPU bound games.

In around 5 months there is another major CPU gen though. If it's 1.15x faster than Haswell@4.6ghz, it would be a solid ~40% faster than your CPU, just from performance per clock and clock speed changes, so everything limited by the speed of 1 core (like sc2 and wildstar, actually quite a lot of other games) would get the full benefit

The gap wouldn't be quite that big going from a quad core without hyperthreading to a quad core without hyperthreading - but you're at 4.2ghz which is low for 2500k's

more cores aren't so useful yet if you're not doing video encoding, streaming etc (or really affordable either unless you put in a huge CPU budget, because you'd have to go to a 5820k, x99 and ddr4 to get an upgrade over intel's quads)

movie on 2'nd screen is pretty much irrelevant for PC load these days. It's probably a notable load but not very big either, unless you're doing something heavy with it like interpolating 1080p24 to 1080p144. The simple act of having more monitors plugged in is no problem even for older GPU's - multi-monitor is relevant if you were running 5760x3240 for example across three 1080p monitors. If you're just playing on one monitor, it's fine :D


Makes sense. Thanks for the explanation!
Useless wet fish.
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 02 2015 22:26 GMT
#10602
On March 25 2015 00:48 Cyro wrote:
Yes, but due to automatic memory management, the slower RAM might be used when you're actively using less than 16GB. Default behavior will have OS and programs caching stuff that they might want to use, or stuff that has been used in the past, so you might have 20GB of stuff in your memory when you only have 5GB worth of programs open. I'm not really sure how it acts with imbalanced memory channels.

Done a bit of googling and if you have 4GB + 8GB paired with 4GB + 8GB you might actually be able to run dual channel on all of it. I'm not really sure, that scenario only comes up when adding memory amount that you didn't really plan for when buying the system

some pics like this:
[image loading]

If so, then sorry for misinformation - but look it up or wait for someone else to reply :0

Ok, so I installed the RAM and everything is running fine so far.

[image loading]

Seems like it's working.... I'll see if I can do some more tests tomorrow.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
April 02 2015 23:36 GMT
#10603
That's good :D
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
myRZeth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1047 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-03 15:39:27
April 03 2015 13:46 GMT
#10604
Hi,
my new 6350 only shows 4 cores 4 threads in CPU Z and in other programs. I do have CPU Core Control on auto and already tried the other options in CPU Core Control. Do you have any idea why i do not have 6 cores 6 threads?



[image loading]


Thanks

It s fixed!

"Go to msconfig > Boot > Advanced options
Is the no. of processors being restricted to 4? Uncheck that box if that is so."
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-04 20:11:16
April 04 2015 19:40 GMT
#10605
nvm figured it out myself. im proud of myself
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-08 19:28:37
April 08 2015 19:28 GMT
#10606
Does Windows 7 keep a list of all installed drivers and more importantly of their date of installation somewhere?
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 08 2015 19:56 GMT
#10607
Control panel.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
April 08 2015 22:07 GMT
#10608
You can see the drivers installed for a particular device through the Device Manager. You can show hidden devices to see more of them, but I don't think that shows the drivers for everything ever connected.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
April 09 2015 05:04 GMT
#10609
Hmm OK, thanks
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12133 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-10 08:14:17
April 10 2015 08:13 GMT
#10610
Not sure if it should be here, but I guess it qualifies>
With this new login option to Team Liquid I cannot get my old Opera(12.17) to "remember" the password. Anyone experienced with this to help me? Thanks! :-)
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10342 Posts
April 10 2015 12:02 GMT
#10611
TL remembers by default now (or should). Is it only a problem in Opera?
AdministratorTwitter: @R1CH_TL
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12133 Posts
April 10 2015 12:43 GMT
#10612
Oh, so the password manager doesn't have to remember the password because I will not be logged out now? That is awesome. I cannot confirm any problems so far except for the question about saving password not appearing. I will not use logout then and I see what happens on Monday when I return to my working computer.

Thanks for the response!
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10342 Posts
April 10 2015 13:06 GMT
#10613
Ah, I thought you meant you were being logged out randomly. It's true the new login form probably won't trigger browsers to offer to remember the password. I'll see if there's anything I can do to change that.
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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-10 14:06:21
April 10 2015 14:01 GMT
#10614
Me too in Chrome. It doesnt remember my name and password If I want to login. I dont have any experience about random logout.

edit: I deleted my TL password from password management within chrome. After Login, chrome doesnt ask me about "save password?". Please do it again.
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Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
April 12 2015 10:06 GMT
#10615
Quite a while back I asked about my PC configuration for the new Witcher3 game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23543851
(and following posts for answers)
As I already stated there, I'm an AMD guy (so basically the cheap mans Apple-Fanboy! *duck* ) and my favorite local hardware seller has a nicely priced bundle (mainboard, processor, ram):
http://www.arlt.com/Hardware/PC-Komponenten/Bundles/Hardwarebundle-Mainboard-Haswell-CPU-RAM-arlt-2.html
It's german, but I think you can see the details.
As I also said, I don't need high-end killer equipment, but want to play fluent. Would this be an okay-ish deal to go for? It sounds quite right in my eyes...
There can only be one Geisterkarle
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 06:59:29
April 13 2015 06:57 GMT
#10616
8370e should be plenty for Witcher 3, games of the current generation are still generally not CPU bound due to the architectures of the consoles. Pair that with something like a 280 and you're probably set.
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 12:17:27
April 13 2015 11:48 GMT
#10617
You shouldn't buy FX new, not at that price. Nobody knows how Witcher 3 will run ATM, anyway.

If you wanna save money just get an fx6300.

Either way you're getting a CPU that has good multithreaded performance, bad singlethreaded performance and is generally cheap and disposable for the late 2015 and 2016 CPU generations if you want something better than 2012 FX.

That bundle is 329 euros which is excessive (probably because of the CPU sku, which means very little to you)


this setup:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (€99.90 @ Caseking)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G43 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (€73.33 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: GeIL Black Dragon 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€63.98 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €237.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-13 13:58 CEST+0200

is 237 euros with fx6300 (best IMO) or 280 euros with fx8320 (functionally as good as CPU you linked above)

I don't know anything about the 970A-G43 or other boards and what's suitable to run at stock settings, though.

You just shouldn't pay more for what is actually pretty bad hardware. If you only want to buy from AMD, i'd suggest the 6300 above and take a look at what they release next year.

Right now they're just not releasing anything at all on desktop between 2012 and 2016 because they wouldn't be able to price the CPU's competitively and they can't afford the research and development to even put their incremental architectural improvements on anything but mobile and servers. 2016 is their new architecture release though, which might make a splash in the midrange CPU area. Hopefully.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
April 13 2015 16:35 GMT
#10618
Asus Nexus 7 tablet, bought in 2013...

It has been incredibly slow for the past months. I've tried a few tricks found on google but none were able to give me a lasting effect. What could slow down these tablets? What can I try to fix it?

Too much apps? I've tried to delete everything... but that thing is linked to your google account or something, because all the apps got reinstalled!
Or just getting "old"...
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 17:30:43
April 13 2015 17:30 GMT
#10619
The vast majority of hardware doesn't slow down over time. There are a few exceptions for things like hard drives which can degrade in performance in a notable way, but even that's not usually the case.

It's almost always just software/OS bloat. Once you eliminate that or replace any hardware that's malfunctioning (though that's very unlikely) then it's functionally a brand new system. No such thing as "getting old" for computer hardware as most people generally think of it.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
April 13 2015 17:35 GMT
#10620
On April 14 2015 02:30 Cyro wrote:
The vast majority of hardware doesn't slow down over time. There are a few exceptions for things like hard drives which can degrade in performance in a notable way, but even that's not usually the case.

It's almost always just software/OS bloat. Once you eliminate that or replace any hardware that's malfunctioning (though that's very unlikely) then it's functionally a brand new system. No such thing as "getting old" for computer hardware as most people generally think of it.


Any tips or tricks on how to get rid of the software/OS bloat? Reset the Tablet to factory default and deny all upgrades? Or is it always better to have the latest OS?
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