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Ovid
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Cyro
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Ovid
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I'm looking at seeing if I can fix the pins on the broken slot, the plastic case has come off with the pins that go through to hole in the mobo and some pins are bent, if I just aline the pins and put the plastic back on it should function I think. What I'm thinking atm: Best case is the PCI slot is fixed and works fine. Second best is the lowest slot and a longer sli bridge work fine and I don't lose too much performance. Worst cast is I need to buy a new mobo. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20332 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/r2k76k2.png) If green slot is broken you should be able to use yellow one - but you need both for SLI support the lowest slot is pci-e 2.0 x4 from the pch, not actually directly to CPU. It probably shows a slight performance loss, might be awkward to fit depending on the GPU and doesn't have SLI support good luck with fixing, i can't help you much there~ (try not to use too much force when removing things without triple checking that it's necessary) On z87/z97 (speaking from experience with my z87x-ud3h) the green one can do x16 to the CPU. The yellow one can do x8 to the CPU - or paired together, they can do x8/x8. That's with 3.0, but you can use 2.0 mode on them and it's fine - 2.0 x8 is alright for even high end GPU's. I'm not sure how 2.0 x4 to the pch is - but AMD allows it for crossfire i think, while Nvidia excluded it from SLI spec on the grounds of wanting to guarantee a solid experience iirc | ||
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00Zarathustra
Bolivia419 Posts
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Craton
United States17287 Posts
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00Zarathustra
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00Zarathustra
Bolivia419 Posts
On March 31 2015 13:09 00Zarathustra wrote: It will start when i plug it to the wall even with the power and reset buttons pins unplugged from the mobo!!! Edit: sorry for double post failed to clic edit button on my phone  | ||
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Ovid
United Kingdom948 Posts
On March 31 2015 05:26 Cyro wrote: If green slot is broken you should be able to use yellow one - but you need both for SLI support the lowest slot is pci-e 2.0 x4 from the pch, not actually directly to CPU. It probably shows a slight performance loss, might be awkward to fit depending on the GPU and doesn't have SLI support good luck with fixing, i can't help you much there~ (try not to use too much force when removing things without triple checking that it's necessary) On z87/z97 (speaking from experience with my z87x-ud3h) the green one can do x16 to the CPU. The yellow one can do x8 to the CPU - or paired together, they can do x8/x8. That's with 3.0, but you can use 2.0 mode on them and it's fine - 2.0 x8 is alright for even high end GPU's. I'm not sure how 2.0 x4 to the pch is - but AMD allows it for crossfire i think, while Nvidia excluded it from SLI spec on the grounds of wanting to guarantee a solid experience iirc It's the yellow one, so I'm pretty much looking at getting a longer SLI bridge and sacrificing performance unless I can make the pins/plastic align and fix the old slot? I suppose it's still better than forking out £110. edit- not too much force was used, the plastic covering came off and some pins got bent. Saying that my fine motor control for how much strength I put in is pretty bad. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20332 Posts
It's the yellow one, so I'm pretty much looking at getting a longer SLI bridge and sacrificing performance unless I can make the pins/plastic align and fix the old slot? you can't sli at all unless you fix the yellow slot with 1 GPU, you can just use green - that's the primary slot anyway, yellow is secondary | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
So, what card can i get thats roughly £200 (can go 50-100 higher if its worth it) and will run everything on high (ish) settings for the next couple/few years? Nvidia only plz  Thanks  | ||
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domane
Canada1606 Posts
On April 01 2015 03:35 Capped wrote: So i bought my 560ti a few years ago under the impression it would futureproof me for a good couple years. It did that perfectly well and has run everything up until recently as well as i'd hope it would. Now im running a dual monitor setup and games are steadily becoming more taxing, i need an upgrade. I bought the 560ti for £200 and its lasted a good ~3 years? maybe longer IDK and i want something that will do the same now. So, what card can i get thats roughly £200 (can go 50-100 higher if its worth it) and will run everything on high (ish) settings for the next couple/few years? Nvidia only plz Thanks I think the gtx 970 would be your best choice out of current nvidia gpus. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20332 Posts
Price: £274.98 & FREE Delivery in the UK IDK if that comes with Witcher 3 - the one on OCUK does, but is £25 more expensive and free shipping isn't an option FPS per £ is pretty much the same between 960 and 970, even though there's a ~1.65x price gap What resolution are you running games on and what settings do you want? I don't think that can really change the answer though, for lack of options | ||
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Dingodile
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Can someone tell me what i am doing wrong? If you are using chrome, plz tell me what version of 16.0.... you are using. So that i can delete 17th and install 16th version. I am talking about the NPAPI thing, not the pepperflash chrome (PPAPI) thing. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
On April 01 2015 10:02 Cyro wrote: http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00NOP536Y/?tag=pcp0f-21 IDK if that comes with Witcher 3 - the one on OCUK does, but is £25 more expensive and free shipping isn't an option FPS per £ is pretty much the same between 960 and 970, even though there's a ~1.65x price gap What resolution are you running games on and what settings do you want? I don't think that can really change the answer though, for lack of options 1920x1080 and with High-max settings on most games (with AA and stuff turned off) That card looks exactly like what im looking for though, i know tech specs i was just too lazy to search for what i needed hehe. Thanks for the replies! -- As an added question, i really see no reason to upgrade my I5-2500K to a newer model, they dont seem to offer much more in terms of performance and this 2500k running @ 4.2ghz does me perfectly fine. Any reasons why i should? (Heaviest PC use is gaming + movie on 2nd screen.) | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20332 Posts
As an added question, i really see no reason to upgrade my I5-2500K to a newer model, they dont seem to offer much more in terms of performance and this 2500k running @ 4.2ghz does me perfectly fine. We're only one gen ahead of the 2500k atm. A 4690k at ~4.6ghz could be around ~20-25% faster than your CPU for CPU bound games. In around 5 months there is another major CPU gen though. If it's 1.15x faster than Haswell@4.6ghz, it would be a solid ~40% faster than your CPU, just from performance per clock and clock speed changes, so everything limited by the speed of 1 core (like sc2 and wildstar, actually quite a lot of other games) would get the full benefit The gap wouldn't be quite that big going from a quad core without hyperthreading to a quad core without hyperthreading - but you're at 4.2ghz which is low for 2500k's more cores aren't so useful yet if you're not doing video encoding, streaming etc (or really affordable either unless you put in a huge CPU budget, because you'd have to go to a 5820k, x99 and ddr4 to get an upgrade over intel's quads) movie on 2'nd screen is pretty much irrelevant for PC load these days. It's probably a notable load but not very big either, unless you're doing something heavy with it like interpolating 1080p24 to 1080p144. The simple act of having more monitors plugged in is no problem even for older GPU's - multi-monitor is relevant if you were running 5760x3240 for example across three 1080p monitors. If you're just playing on one monitor, it's fine :D | ||
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Dingodile
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Cyro
United Kingdom20332 Posts
TDP is pretty much a measure of power consumption, but not a very accurate one. It has various definitions and many of them are quite loose. The simplest explanation that fits would probably be that the cooling system attached to it should be able to handle the amount of power that TDP indicates, as that would cover all usage cases. + Show Spoiler + Intel uses an 84w TDP on many of their quad cores - even on i5 and i7, although i7 uses like ~15% more power than i5. They just have the same number written on them. Intel's TDP is something called long duration package power limit, which is used for dealing with (and limiting) the turbo speeds based on CPU and iGPU power consumption. As a result of that, it's not a very good measure to use for estimating power consumption, especially if you're not running a game from the integrated graphics (which use a lot of power when in use.. and no power when not in use, if you're not gaming on it). Nvidia's "TDP" is a power limit too - but it's set way more loosely on some stuff than others. For example a 770 has 230w TDP, but at stock and overclocks it uses about ~150-170w. Titan X has 250w TDP, but it can easily use 275w (or 350w+ if overclocked with limits removed), even though they look similar if you judge them by the "tdp". tl;dr - if you try to judge power usage accurately (or ESPECIALLY compare between parts even within the same brand, but even worse if it's cross-brand) from a TDP number, you're gonna have a bad time. It's not actually a very useful number - mainly due to it meaning a different thing for every company out there, and huge underestimations and overestimations of power usage | ||
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Dunmer
United Kingdom568 Posts
Or will I need to switch out PSU's. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20332 Posts
6850, yes high OC 290/780ti/titanX with CPU at 1.35v? nop | ||
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