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Darkened
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Bulgaria105 Posts
March 24 2015 05:08 GMT
#10561
No, it's just the CPU. Thank you!
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
March 24 2015 08:37 GMT
#10562
I'm currently using a Intel Core i5 3570K (3400, overclocked to 4,5 GHz) on a Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H with 8 GB RAM. I need more RAM for some virtualization tasks, I probably need up to 24 GB, so I want to add another 16 GB.

Now, the RAM I'm using is Corsair Vengeance 8GB 2-Kit XMP DDR3 1600MHz CL8. However, there is no 2-Kit 16 GByte version in the Corsair Vengeance series with those timings, only with CL9. I also could not find any other brand offering CL8-timings on this RAM size. According to the manual, that should not be a problem as long as I put the RAM in correctly.

Gigabyte Manual wrote:
When enabling Dual Channel mode with two or four memory modules, it is recommended that memory of the same capacity, brand, speed and chips be used and installed in the same colored DDR3 sockets.


However, I'm just worried that this might have some wonkey impact on the system performance. Could this be an issue?
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20321 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-24 14:30:49
March 24 2015 14:29 GMT
#10563
If you run 4+8GB with 4+8GB, then 1/3'rd of your memory has to run in single channel mode:

It's allocated like this:

4GB + 8GB remaining

2GB + 6GB remaining (written 2GB to each module)

0GB + 4GB remaining (that entire 4GB has to be used in single channel)

It might be better to just sell your current RAM and get 4x8GB, though you could buy a 16GB kit, try to mix and match timings/frequencies etc (even if it's 1600cl8, most of the secondary and the other timings will be different) and then take 8GB of that 24GB being in single channel
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
March 24 2015 15:16 GMT
#10564
On March 24 2015 23:29 Cyro wrote:
If you run 4+8GB with 4+8GB, then 1/3'rd of your memory has to run in single channel mode:

It's allocated like this:

4GB + 8GB remaining

2GB + 6GB remaining (written 2GB to each module)

0GB + 4GB remaining (that entire 4GB has to be used in single channel)

It might be better to just sell your current RAM and get 4x8GB, though you could buy a 16GB kit, try to mix and match timings/frequencies etc (even if it's 1600cl8, most of the secondary and the other timings will be different) and then take 8GB of that 24GB being in single channel

Thanks for your reply. Does that mean that the 8 GB only come into play when the 16 GB in dual channel are used up?

Basically, I want the machine to perform the best for games, but for that I obviously don't need that much RAM. However, when I'm using virtualization, the performance is not that critical. So as long as the single channel RAM is only in use when I'm using virtualization, I won't care.

I'm asking because I fear that 16 GB might not be enough, and 32 GB is quite expensive.



"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20321 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-24 15:49:37
March 24 2015 15:48 GMT
#10565
Yes, but due to automatic memory management, the slower RAM might be used when you're actively using less than 16GB. Default behavior will have OS and programs caching stuff that they might want to use, or stuff that has been used in the past, so you might have 20GB of stuff in your memory when you only have 5GB worth of programs open. I'm not really sure how it acts with imbalanced memory channels.

Done a bit of googling and if you have 4GB + 8GB paired with 4GB + 8GB you might actually be able to run dual channel on all of it. I'm not really sure, that scenario only comes up when adding memory amount that you didn't really plan for when buying the system

some pics like this:
[image loading]

If so, then sorry for misinformation - but look it up or wait for someone else to reply :0
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
March 24 2015 16:21 GMT
#10566
On March 25 2015 00:48 Cyro wrote:
Yes, but due to automatic memory management, the slower RAM might be used when you're actively using less than 16GB. Default behavior will have OS and programs caching stuff that they might want to use, or stuff that has been used in the past, so you might have 20GB of stuff in your memory when you only have 5GB worth of programs open. I'm not really sure how it acts with imbalanced memory channels.

Done a bit of googling and if you have 4GB + 8GB paired with 4GB + 8GB you might actually be able to run dual channel on all of it. I'm not really sure, that scenario only comes up when adding memory amount that you didn't really plan for when buying the system

some pics like this:
[image loading]

If so, then sorry for misinformation - but look it up or wait for someone else to reply :0

I think the manual of the mainboard said the same as you - that if you actually inserted the memory in the correct slots, it should work (see the quote in my first post). But I was not sure if I understood the manual correctly.

I have four slots exactly as in your picture, and the manual claims that if I use the same-capacity modules in the same-coloured slots, it should work (e.g. both 4 GB modules in the blue slots, both 8 GB modules in the black slots).

Yeah, when I was building the system 2 years ago I never thought I would have to get so much RAM.

I'll start googling around a bit more and see what I can find.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20321 Posts
March 24 2015 16:51 GMT
#10567
Yea i think i was actually wrong now, and it will work as long as you use the right slots. It's seen as 12GB + 12GB then. Since you'd have four RAM modules and only two channels
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Dunmer
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom568 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-27 02:38:36
March 27 2015 02:37 GMT
#10568
CPU temps

So basically my pc was in transit and when I turned it on I was getting 8 fps in SC2 on medium settings. With my i5 - 2500k I knew something was up. I opened up the case and two of the click in bolts were completely loose and out of the sockets, I checked the cpu temperatures and as shown above my processor is reaching crazy temperatures when I only have Firefox open.

I was thinking I can just reapply the thermal paste and be good to go, would this work or does anyone have any advice on the matter?
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 27 2015 02:41 GMT
#10569
If you're lazy, you can just re-secure the heatsink in place and it will be fine but yes, best practice would be to re-apply thermal paste.
Dunmer
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom568 Posts
March 27 2015 02:43 GMT
#10570
I put the cpu fan back in its sockets and this is the temperature I am getting. Thermal paste it is
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neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
March 27 2015 05:03 GMT
#10571
I'm looking to get a laptop for school. Gaming is a non-issue except maybe some hearthstone. Budget is 400-700$. The big things for me are good keyboards and being lightweight. Ideally it should have enough processing power for a bit of coding but doesn't have to. Any recommendations guys?
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-28 00:13:07
March 28 2015 00:09 GMT
#10572
Honestly, coding needs very little horsepower; you'll be more pressed for RAM than for CPU. I'd aim for an SSD and at least 8 GB of RAM (imo 4GB is too little but 8GB should be fine - it's what I run at work and I frequently have 3+ large solutions open plus IIS etc running all the time).

I'd also recommend something at 1080p resolution - the 1366x768 are simply awful to code on because of the lack of screen space (for comparison I get ~40 lines of code visible on a 1680x1050 vs ~23 on a 1366x768). On a 1440p+ I end up upping the font anyway, so 1080p is basically the sweet spot in terms of cost and usability. You can always get a monitor to hook up to at home later on, but for when you're out you really want something pleasant to use.

The only laptops I've used recently are the Dell XPS 12 (2-in-1) which ran me about $850 used (my only gripe so far is the lack of multi-touch on the touchpad, but I use the touchscreen a lot) and the HP Revolve 810. The latter is 768p (I use it at work) and IMO not very good value. Battery life on the XPS12 is ~8-10 hours and the Revolve (the i7 256GB model) is ~5-6 hours.

I think these are both a bit outside of your budget even used, though.

The Lenovo Flex is a pretty popular series - a few colleagues have recommended them. I'd avoid the Acer Aspire line (at least the R7s) due to some known issues with the keyboard.

In any event, I'd be on the look out for getting some of the better laptop brands as "used" from places like Amazon Warehouse Deals - they're frequently half the price of a new one. At least in my case the one I got looks brand new.

That's mostly all the knowledge I have on the subject of laptops.
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neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-28 02:35:21
March 28 2015 02:35 GMT
#10573
I was looking at the XPS line. 11 had really bad reviews on the keyboard. I liked what I've read about 12 but I settled on the ASUS Zenbook UX305FA-ASM1. A bit over my budget but I've heard good things about it. Thanks for the help.
00Zarathustra
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bolivia419 Posts
March 28 2015 20:41 GMT
#10574
Hi I have a proble,

I own an H61H2-M3 (V1.0) MoBo. I was using 4gb of Ram But only 3318 could be used. That was an issue so I decided to buy another 4gb Ram. Now I have 8 Gb of Ram but I still have 3318 of available RAM. I tried to change this from msconfig but it always go back to 3318. How can I fix this?
I have windows 7 32 bits.
Zarathustra "You can't spell aNal_Rape without Nal_Ra"
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 28 2015 21:00 GMT
#10575
32-bit operating systems can only address 4 GB of memory, this includes both video card RAM and desktop RAM. You will need to install 64-bit Windows if you wish to use more than 4 GB of RAM.
00Zarathustra
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bolivia419 Posts
March 28 2015 22:04 GMT
#10576
Ok it's that simple? Thank you very much.
Zarathustra "You can't spell aNal_Rape without Nal_Ra"
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-28 23:13:55
March 28 2015 23:13 GMT
#10577
question thats been bothering me. is the difference between 19020x1080 and 1900x1200 htat noticeable and why are the two resolutions different (aka why do some monitors have one and some the other). hope that makse sense
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 28 2015 23:39 GMT
#10578
1920x1200 is meant for desktop usage (basically, the extra pixels account for the taskbar) so the extra 120 vertical pixels over 1920x1080 is quite noticeable if you are frequently dealing with webpages, documents, etc. This is why you see it on the 24" IPS monitors aimed at professionals.

1920x1080 is a television standard and it's become the standard for PCs as well since it's cheaper and easier for manufacturers to make panels for one resolution.
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
March 28 2015 23:46 GMT
#10579
On March 29 2015 08:39 skyR wrote:
1920x1200 is meant for desktop usage (basically, the extra pixels account for the taskbar) so the extra 120 vertical pixels over 1920x1080 is quite noticeable if you are frequently dealing with webpages, documents, etc. This is why you see it on the 24" IPS monitors aimed at professionals.

1920x1080 is a television standard and it's become the standard for PCs as well since it's cheaper and easier for manufacturers to make panels for one resolution.


okay thanks, that makes sense.
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
March 29 2015 01:01 GMT
#10580
The taskbar is only about 40 pixels tall. You'll get ~40 pixel black bars on either side (top/bottom) of 16x9 video, but even with that minor drawback I still prefer 16x10 to 16x9 for basically every other usage. You also don't have to deal with the video overlapping (or being hidden by) your taskbar, which is nice.
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