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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
April 18 2015 18:10 GMT
#10661
Those are very high idle temperatures, but those CPU's did run hot

if you want to test temps under a real load, you can download Cinebench r15 and run it, that's quite easy and it gives you a performance number that's very exact and shows CPU performance or any throttling etc, as well as realistic temperatures from CPU at load
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-18 19:09:02
April 18 2015 19:05 GMT
#10662
On April 19 2015 03:10 Cyro wrote:
Those are very high idle temperatures, but those CPU's did run hot

if you want to test temps under a real load, you can download Cinebench r15 and run it, that's quite easy and it gives you a performance number that's very exact and shows CPU performance or any throttling etc, as well as realistic temperatures from CPU at load



Running the test right now! (The cpu test right?)

EDIT : Test result is 153 CB. Not sure what it means!
Open GL test resulted in 31.39 FPS
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-19 03:41:53
April 18 2015 21:55 GMT
#10663
the opengl test is irrelevant

the CB is for CPU performance. I get 952 with a 4770k@4.6ghz. You'd mainly want to use it to check CPU temperatures at 100% load, running it ~1-3 times. You can see what clock speeds the CPU is staying at too during that time, with a program like hwinfo (www.hwinfo.com)

153 seems rather low - my CPU shouldn't be 6.22x faster than yours with the same core count
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
April 19 2015 15:15 GMT
#10664
I found an amazing Android App "Wifi Analyzer". My Router is at cellar and my PC is at attic. WLAN USB-stick at PC has -85dbm. I found a place which has -65dbm, 2 meter away from PC.

Does it means that my Internet speed is faster (donwloading datas etc)? Is -20dbm difference a noticeable thing except level signal (in order to avoid connection losses)? I cant test because I need to buy an USB extension cable.

I can confirm that my laptop and 2nd smartphone has only connection at that -65dbm place. but I am asking about download speed (sc2 or diablo3 updates mostly are >300mb datas etc).
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
April 20 2015 02:03 GMT
#10665
If you're testing with a phone or tablet, you're not testing with the computer itself. You may as well use a similar program on your computer to see the signal strength it is getting. As you've noticed, there can be big differences in different locations, but that also depends on the orientation of the antenna and the exact spot really. I don't know how you tested, but maybe the computer itself is responsible for the lower reading as tested on another device.

Usually the slowest link is that between your modem and the outside (i.e. whatever speed you're getting from your ISP), but -85 dBm is bad enough to matter and cause a bottleneck on the faster residential lines, probably. Even more so if you live in a densely populated area with plenty of networks eating up air time and/or causing interference—seemingly not that likely if you have both a cellar and attic, but you never know.

Rather than guess at what might be going on, the obvious and relevant thing to check would be the data rates you get on your computer out to the rest of the world vs. your phone when near the router (speedtest.net or similar should work). That's ultimately what you're interested in: whether or not the subpar link between the computer and router all the way through floors is a bottleneck or not.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-20 11:32:07
April 20 2015 08:38 GMT
#10666
I did test an similar program like speedtest on my smartphone. Antenna at my PC should have 2,59mbps /-85dbm), however the data downloads shows rather 3,95mbps (485KB/s).

The "better" place (-65 dbm) has apparently 3,84mbps and signal level is +40% better, no matter of the orientation of the antenna. I think my smarthone cant use the full speed of my DSL internet (advertised 6mbps). Shockingly if my smartphone is 1m away from router (-30 dbm), it has only 3,90mbps.

My Smartphone at PC shows ~5 more wireless networks besides my own, some are on same network channel, some have stronger signal level than mine. At that "better" place, only me. Looks like the barrier to all other is great there.

Edit: All speed measures tested with my smartphone. I did one speed test with my PC right now (-85dbm place), 3990kbit/s. I guess my smartphone cant handle with high internet speed.

Edit2: finally cable extention connected, signal level increased from 36% to 52% (data rate increased from 27-40mbps to 54-81mbps) but download/upload speed (speedtest) unchanged at 3,95mbps. I think it was worth.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Dunmer
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom568 Posts
April 20 2015 10:38 GMT
#10667
Just a curious question. I heard a lot that windows 8.1 is just awful for gaming because of compatibility issues and crashes. Recently I have seen some people saying that it's a lot better and that newer games work fine with it.

I run Ubuntu and some games like dragon age Inquisition are just a pain to get running. Would it be worth it to do a dual partition with windows 8.1? (Note I have a legit copy of 8.1 and not 7 to install)
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
April 20 2015 13:50 GMT
#10668
There shouldn't be compatibility issues with newer stuff. We're getting windows 10 in like q3-q4 this year anyway
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-20 22:01:13
April 20 2015 22:00 GMT
#10669
I haven't heard of compatibility issues. It's mostly that most people dislike the UI (particularly the metro start menu) and I think something about forced vsync running games in windowed mode? It's better suited for touch devices.

I don't see any reason not to give W8.1 a try and see if your games fare better when you already have the license available. Worst case you can just get rid of it and reclaim the partition.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-20 22:28:51
April 20 2015 22:28 GMT
#10670
Especially coming from trying to game on linux, "compatibility issues" with a modern windows OS is a bit of a joke

forced vsync running games in windowed mode


literally worse than hitler
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
April 21 2015 09:33 GMT
#10671
I have a 2nd router, can I use it as access point via wlan? All guides I found is that there has to be connected between 1st and 2nd router via lan-cable. Does it decrease the internet speed in general (like repeater)?
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
April 22 2015 00:05 GMT
#10672
I think it depends on the firmware of the router if it can be treated like a wireless repeater. Some can be - I'm fairly sure I did it with my old router and the one I'm currently using; I believe this one calls it a wireless bridge when you do that (I'm running Tomato firmware, but it's been awhile since I used it in that capacity).

The difference in speed should be minor - the overall throughput should be the same provided both devices can wirelessly transmit the full capacity and the latency penalty I'd estimate to be ~1-3ms. Naturally signal loss / interference will play a role in how well they perform.
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
April 22 2015 01:55 GMT
#10673
I'm a lecturer at a seminar I subscribed to and I subbed using my personal e-mail account, from gmail. Unfortunately apparently that crap is linked to my google+, which was empty (or so I thought) so I didn't worry about it, but it turns out my google+ is linked to my youtube account, which has controversial stuff on it, and just generally stuff I wouldn't want to share with coworkers and whatnot.

I'm saying this because after I signed up for the lecture, the organism "added me to their circles" on google+, which is a bit creepy. Is there a way to disconnect google+ from my gmail, or disconnect youtube from google+ at least? Or hell, I'd close Google+ entirely if I god damn could...

Note: I tried to untie YT from G+ and it wouldn't let me because there's apparently a copyright infringement strike on my YT acct.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 22 2015 02:01 GMT
#10674
https://www.youtube.com/account

move youtube to different account.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-22 02:31:17
April 22 2015 02:17 GMT
#10675
Doesn't seem to want to work.

NVM I found a way. That site is a clusterfuck.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
mantequilla
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Turkey781 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-22 07:23:21
April 22 2015 07:22 GMT
#10676
Anyone has set up phplist before? I'm getting this weird half blank screen when I go to DOCUMENT_ROOT/admin/ to set it up.

http://c2n.me/3gwCN9y.png

My basic settings in config.php:
$database_module = "mysql.inc";
$pageroot = '/';
$adminpages = '/admin/';

Apache is setup to serve /lists/ of phplist from /.

I fkn hate php. Notepad oriented dev that never works.
Age of Mythology forever!
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
April 22 2015 21:58 GMT
#10677
Use an IDE like PhpStorm or NetBeans.

You'll probably have better luck in the programming thread or on stackoverflow.
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domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
April 23 2015 06:12 GMT
#10678
Is there any reason to buy a desktop over a laptop if you only need to web browse, watch videos, and use word/office?
mantequilla
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Turkey781 Posts
April 23 2015 10:24 GMT
#10679
On April 23 2015 15:12 domane wrote:
Is there any reason to buy a desktop over a laptop if you only need to web browse, watch videos, and use word/office?


You can get a bigger/better monitor with a desktop (at similar prices, assuming you build desktop yourself). Other than that I don't think there is a reason. What can be?
Age of Mythology forever!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-23 20:39:20
April 23 2015 20:37 GMT
#10680
On April 23 2015 15:12 domane wrote:
Is there any reason to buy a desktop over a laptop if you only need to web browse, watch videos, and use word/office?


Desktops are easier to maintain and fix, and lasts longer as well, and easier to upgrade as well.
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