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Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
January 14 2013 04:36 GMT
#5261
On January 14 2013 02:53 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 13:59 Womwomwom wrote:
It could have improved. Doesn't mean its any better than other options on the market. As I said, antiviruses are kind of nothing to write home about because they're constantly trying to keep up with the thousands of viruses popping up every day. If you're really deathly worried about viruses, use a sandboxed OS like iOS.

One of the bigger things to leave on is UAC. When I worked at a computer store a long time ago, adware and malware was typically installed manually by the user. UAC is meant to prevent this or at least give the user enough time to think "is this a good idea?".


It actually has improved, and it's about as good as you can expect out of it. It's a good option if you just want to install and forget your AV, and understand that it doesn't automatically make your PC 100% safe.

My wife got a subscription for us since she does desktop support at work, and she'd rather not have to deal with her computer at home. I use it, it does as much as any free software I've ever used, with no major inconvenience.

Granted, it's only about as good as the best free options, your main advantage is just being able to completely ignore it once it's installed. It's pretty good about being lightweight when you're doing stuff, and has an option to straight up disable it temporarily if you need to.

Most trouble I have with it is when it screams about benchmarking software hogging resources.


so... should i use it or not even bother? Norton 360, or MSE. Considering that it's already paid for.

Maybe it can be returned, i dont know.
How to build a $500 i7-3770K Ultimate Computer:http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=392709 ******** 100% Safe Razorless Delid Method! http://www.overclock.net/t/1376206/how-to-delid-your-ivy-bridge-cpu-with-out-a-razor-blade/0_100
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
January 14 2013 04:45 GMT
#5262
On January 14 2013 13:36 Belial88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 02:53 JingleHell wrote:
On January 13 2013 13:59 Womwomwom wrote:
It could have improved. Doesn't mean its any better than other options on the market. As I said, antiviruses are kind of nothing to write home about because they're constantly trying to keep up with the thousands of viruses popping up every day. If you're really deathly worried about viruses, use a sandboxed OS like iOS.

One of the bigger things to leave on is UAC. When I worked at a computer store a long time ago, adware and malware was typically installed manually by the user. UAC is meant to prevent this or at least give the user enough time to think "is this a good idea?".


It actually has improved, and it's about as good as you can expect out of it. It's a good option if you just want to install and forget your AV, and understand that it doesn't automatically make your PC 100% safe.

My wife got a subscription for us since she does desktop support at work, and she'd rather not have to deal with her computer at home. I use it, it does as much as any free software I've ever used, with no major inconvenience.

Granted, it's only about as good as the best free options, your main advantage is just being able to completely ignore it once it's installed. It's pretty good about being lightweight when you're doing stuff, and has an option to straight up disable it temporarily if you need to.

Most trouble I have with it is when it screams about benchmarking software hogging resources.


so... should i use it or not even bother? Norton 360, or MSE. Considering that it's already paid for.

Maybe it can be returned, i dont know.


If it's already paid for, it won't hurt, and the whole "does all that shit it does automatically" thing is handy.

I only hit the kill switch if I'm running benches, otherwise it doesn't cause me any problems. Not a disturbing resource hog like it used to be and some of the others still are.

Effectively, it's the same as free options, but requires basically nothing except some initial setup from the user. Which, last time I used free ones, wasn't the case entirely. Haven't messed with free ones in a couple of years though.
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
January 14 2013 05:38 GMT
#5263
ah, i was worried it'd be taking up resources a ton and such. I mean back in the day, you know, norton and mcafee took up more resources than viruses themselves. Are those days over?

if the 360 cant be returned maybe ill just stick with it.

i mean its for my dad, not me. i do what the client wants ^^
How to build a $500 i7-3770K Ultimate Computer:http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=392709 ******** 100% Safe Razorless Delid Method! http://www.overclock.net/t/1376206/how-to-delid-your-ivy-bridge-cpu-with-out-a-razor-blade/0_100
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 11:23:37
January 14 2013 11:23 GMT
#5264
That used to be an issue, but the processing power of computers has multiplied since then, so it no longer matters.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Ata
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada356 Posts
January 14 2013 13:29 GMT
#5265
On January 14 2013 11:56 Myrmidon wrote:
HD 4000 boost to... what? In which CPU?

Max clock speed can be between 1300 MHz and 850 MHz I think. DDR3 1600 MHz?



HD 4000 boost to... what? base clockspeed
In which CPU? i5-3750k
DDR3 1600 MHz? yes, dual channel
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
January 14 2013 15:29 GMT
#5266
On January 14 2013 14:38 Belial88 wrote:
ah, i was worried it'd be taking up resources a ton and such. I mean back in the day, you know, norton and mcafee took up more resources than viruses themselves. Are those days over?

if the 360 cant be returned maybe ill just stick with it.

i mean its for my dad, not me. i do what the client wants ^^


Not for McAfee. My friend's wife accidentally installed it, he almost had to reformat her PC. You still want to be careful with which ones you get, but with Norton, unless it needs to be active, it hides. It does all it's major work when you've been idle for x amount of hours, unless you tell it to do something active, or DL something. It basically sucks up no resources when you actually use the computer.
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
January 14 2013 19:52 GMT
#5267
You've been very helpful, thanks.
How to build a $500 i7-3770K Ultimate Computer:http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=392709 ******** 100% Safe Razorless Delid Method! http://www.overclock.net/t/1376206/how-to-delid-your-ivy-bridge-cpu-with-out-a-razor-blade/0_100
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
January 15 2013 00:55 GMT
#5268
Is there anyway to hide youtube suggestions/links on the right side of videos in youtube, with either firefox addons or something? I searched and there is only something to hide YT comments.
https://connect.microsoft.com/WindowsServerFeedback/feedback/details/741495/biggest-explorer-annoyance-automatic-sorting-windows-7-server-2008-r2-and-vista#details Allow Disable Auto Arrange in Windows 7+
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17292 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-15 01:08:38
January 15 2013 01:06 GMT
#5269
You could make one pretty easily for Chrome, but I dunno how FF addons work. You just need to grab the div for the recommendations (it's pretty uniquely named) and then replace the contents (probably with nothing).
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dgillyerek
Profile Joined December 2012
4 Posts
January 15 2013 14:14 GMT
#5270

Excuse the question but I'm a completely lost when it comes to this stuff:

My question is what setup is best or does it even matter?

I have a 3 monitor setup with one 30" front center as my main monitor. Off that main monitor I have one 20" directly above it and one monitor in portrait to the right. The main monitor is used for programs like starcraft, photoshop and lightroom while the top monitor is mostly used for youtube and twitch. The side monitor for www and other random not so important tasks.

I have 3 graphics cards at my disposal. Listed from oldest to newest
1) MSI NX8800
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127325
2) ATI Radeon HD 5670
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814103104
3) Radeon HD 7870
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150605

The problem is the hd5670 only has 1 DVI out the other is VGA and none of my monitors have hdmi.

In trying to get the best performance out of my pc what is the best setup I should run? Will I get better performance with only running one DVI out of the HD 7870 and running the other 2 monitors off the older NX8800? or should I run 2 DVI out of the HD 7870 and one out of the newer hd5670 since its a more powerful graphics card? will this strain the HD 7870 if I'm playing starcraft and watching twitch? or does it even matter.

Thanks
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
January 15 2013 16:54 GMT
#5271
Running 3 monitors off the one gpu will take a pittance, it's like 16MB or 8MB of VRAM for a 1080p screen, I forget. If running twitch/youtube gives a performance hit, right click and disable hardware acceleration and it should be fine. I wouldn't put the other gpus in personally, but it's up to you.
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dgillyerek
Profile Joined December 2012
4 Posts
January 15 2013 18:21 GMT
#5272
On January 16 2013 01:54 Rollin wrote:
Running 3 monitors off the one gpu will take a pittance, it's like 16MB or 8MB of VRAM for a 1080p screen, I forget. If running twitch/youtube gives a performance hit, right click and disable hardware acceleration and it should be fine. I wouldn't put the other gpus in personally, but it's up to you.


Oh wow. Is there any cons then in running 2 cards or 1? Should I just ditch the other card and get some adapters? My monitors are all DVI but the card has only 2 dvi outs and 2 mini display ports.
dgillyerek
Profile Joined December 2012
4 Posts
January 15 2013 18:43 GMT
#5273
On January 16 2013 01:54 Rollin wrote:
Running 3 monitors off the one gpu will take a pittance, it's like 16MB or 8MB of VRAM for a 1080p screen, I forget. If running twitch/youtube gives a performance hit, right click and disable hardware acceleration and it should be fine. I wouldn't put the other gpus in personally, but it's up to you.


Also I run my main monitor at 2560x1600. Does that make a significant difference? The other 2 are 1680x1050
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
January 15 2013 21:42 GMT
#5274
If all three monitors are DVI, then you'd need an active DisplayPort adapter to run all off of the 7870. If you don't want to get one, just use the extra 5670 for the last monitor. Or you might be able to use integrated graphics off the CPU and motherboard connectors if on socket 1155.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17292 Posts
January 15 2013 23:17 GMT
#5275
The adapter will run you around $30 depending on which you get and where you get it.

I use this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815129011
twitch.tv/cratonz
PigAntlers
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada32 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-16 01:22:49
January 16 2013 01:22 GMT
#5276
Ok Hard Drive Error Question Here (Windows 7), So I updated Itunes and then reset my computer and upon loading up it sat at a black screen for like 45 seconds. On that black screen I could see the cursor and was able to open the task manager with ctr alt delete then after the 45 seconds (rough guess) windows loads up. Now I have 1 hardrive that has a partition to give me 2 drives C: and D: now my C: is there but my D: magically appears to have been converted to RAW file system according to my disk management page. I am not sure what to do here will a system restore possibly fix my problem and change the drive back? Or does that do nothing do the HD? Is there a known partition recovery software that won't lose all my files and can magically get back my NTFS file system so I can go about having fun. I havn't done anything yet for fear of losing all my files and hopefully someone has seen this kind of thing happen before.

Thanks in advance and lets hope not all is lost
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
January 16 2013 01:56 GMT
#5277
On January 16 2013 03:21 dgillyerek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2013 01:54 Rollin wrote:
Running 3 monitors off the one gpu will take a pittance, it's like 16MB or 8MB of VRAM for a 1080p screen, I forget. If running twitch/youtube gives a performance hit, right click and disable hardware acceleration and it should be fine. I wouldn't put the other gpus in personally, but it's up to you.


Oh wow. Is there any cons then in running 2 cards or 1? Should I just ditch the other card and get some adapters? My monitors are all DVI but the card has only 2 dvi outs and 2 mini display ports.

Yeah, 2 cards takes a bit more power, but as others have said the display adapter costs a little bit, so either option is fine.
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Steelo_Rivers
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1968 Posts
January 16 2013 04:06 GMT
#5278
Is anything in my system causing a bottleneck? Im happy with the way it performs but, I just want to know if there are any issues.

i5 2320 3 Ghz
HD 5850 (Stock but can bios mod and set to 5870 speeds)
6 GB ddr3 ram
H61 motherboard (not planning on overclocking my cpu at all. not that I could anyway)

Anything (specifically between my GPU and CPU) bottlenecking each other?
ok
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
January 16 2013 04:09 GMT
#5279
In games like Starcraft 2 its the CPU in other games like Crysis and so forth its the 5850.
twitch.tv/medrea
baoluvboa
Profile Joined December 2010
743 Posts
January 16 2013 20:53 GMT
#5280
Do you guys know when the next line of CPUs from AMD and Intel are coming out? Would AMD be competitive in term of performance in the future unlike the failure of Bulldozer?
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