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BadWolf0
Profile Joined September 2010
United States300 Posts
February 22 2011 17:38 GMT
#41
Thanks for the great work, just confirming that this works for the Razer Orochi really well. I'm a long-time PC gamer who just got a nice macbook as a present from grandparents (haven't been able to afford my own choice for a while) and I have been tearing my hair out making the mouse feel right, not just for gaming but for general usage. thank you thank you thank you
All hail the Queen!!!
Bumblebees
Profile Joined August 2010
United States328 Posts
February 23 2011 00:04 GMT
#42
I have confirmed that this will work for any mouse just about. It will make your mouse perform like default settings in windows (without enhance precision).

If you have a driver panel, adjust settings there for DPI and sensitivity. If you do not... well, sorry. OS X is a weird beast when it comes to mouse input.

I'm waiting to hear from USB overdrive users how it works with the sensitivity option in there.
Cofo
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1388 Posts
February 23 2011 05:24 GMT
#43
Here's what I found with USB overdrive:

The speed slider does not seem to have any effect whatsoever on the sensitivity. However, once the Acceleration slider is enabled (box checked), the sensitivity drops to almost nothing (Like 1 foot of mouse movement = 1cm cursor movement).

After I unchecked and rechecked the acceleration box, the sensitivity problem went away. So now having acceleration checked keeps normal sensitivity but DOES enable acceleration.
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AyameStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom192 Posts
February 24 2011 16:17 GMT
#44
Thank you man, I can confirm this works with a Razer Abyssus.

Now I can use my mouse properly and not have to deal with the horrible accel curve :D
// ᴵᴹᴍᴠᴘ \\
labbe
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
February 24 2011 17:33 GMT
#45
With USB Overdrive it does not cancel out acceleration. Does not matter if i check or uncheck the acceleration box, and the sliders on acceleration and sensitivity has no impact on the mouse movement what so ever. Enable/Disable USB Overdrive does not seem to have any effect either.

Long story short: With USB Overdrive the acceleration is still there, and no settings in USB Overdrive has any effect on mouse movement.

I use a Steelseries Xai.
Bumblebees
Profile Joined August 2010
United States328 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-24 21:22:25
February 24 2011 21:20 GMT
#46
On February 25 2011 02:33 labbe wrote:
With USB Overdrive it does not cancel out acceleration. Does not matter if i check or uncheck the acceleration box, and the sliders on acceleration and sensitivity has no impact on the mouse movement what so ever. Enable/Disable USB Overdrive does not seem to have any effect either.

Long story short: With USB Overdrive the acceleration is still there, and no settings in USB Overdrive has any effect on mouse movement.

I use a Steelseries Xai.


Uninstall usb overdrive.

This works fantastic with the Xai on its own. I have 20+ reports of it working fantastic with that mouse. Use the dpi setting on the mouse to adjust sensitivity, and it is identical to windows with the same settings of the mouse.

Let me know if you still have trouble.
xs101
Profile Joined June 2010
Romania86 Posts
February 24 2011 23:02 GMT
#47
Holy ! It actually worked !!!
Using a Steelseries XAI here.

I've been struggling to find a solution to the dreaded mouse cursor problem in osx in ages... Tried ControllerMate, modding Microsoft drivers, usb overdrive, steermouse... none worked. This works great ! mouse movement same as windows.

Bumblebees, by dpi setting on the mouse you meant the one from windows right ? Because I had it set in windows and in osx just installed MouseFixer and in worked !
Char711
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States862 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-24 23:50:17
February 24 2011 23:47 GMT
#48
On February 21 2011 03:53 Bumblebees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2011 03:42 Char711 wrote:
On February 21 2011 02:52 Bumblebees wrote:
On February 21 2011 02:32 ReachTheSky wrote:
There is also a program called steermouse available for download on teh interwebz


Steermouse doesn't do what this does. Steermouse changes it once.

The problem is that some OGL applications, such as starcraft modify or take over HID i/o. If you use steermouse or USB overdrive then minimize your window, goto something and go back, it gets messed up. This not only happens in SC2, but some steam games in my experience.

Along with this, driver panels such as Razer's have an option to turn off accel. The problem is that the razer panel sets the OS sensitivity to the lowest setting (which is actually linear btw). You have to the increase the DPI of your mouse tremendously to make up for it. Steermouse and USB overdrive do not help here.

Not only that, but steermouse/usb overdrive do not allow you to precisely setup your mouse to be identical to a windows configuration. With this app, if you setup your driver panel the same in OS X and in Windows, you are guaranteed to have the same mouse movement... at least it does with razer so far

The whole Razer to lowest sensitivity thing is essentially what got me to install SC2 on the Windows 7 partition of my MacBook Pro (I'd originally planned to keep OS X as my main and be able to launch SC2 whenever, but I'm now relegated to normally using Windows 7 if I think I want to play soon).

Thank you so much for working on this! USB Overdrive and Terminal commands just didn't work for me and I can't wait until you get this all working and release it! Maybe I'll be able to stay in OS X again!



I'm 100% this works with the razer deathadder.

If you didn't send me a PM, please do.

I'm sorry I didn't respond! I only bookmarked this thread to return to later when I figured you might have a public release (I've been too busy to do much testing work for you anyways).

I am happy to report that I just installed this and ran two games. The transition from desktop to SC2 was seamless and I even minimized to start iTunes (a real treat since I've been unable to listen to music on my Windows partition since my Internet is too slow/shaky to stream music alongside the game) and queue up some music. Incredible job! As far as I can tell this is pretty much spot on what I get in Windows 7. There seem to be just a few moments where the control is different, but this is probably just some hiccup on the part of OS X -- I think you've done as well as is humanly possible. (Note also that I set this to 125hz -- as recommended -- and 1800dpi while I normally go up one hz setting in Windows.)

The games went smoothly and were pretty close to what I'm used to. I'm pretty sure that the shakiness I experienced was just that OS X can't run the game as smoothly as Windows 7 because of all of that wonderful graphics processing (hmm . . . maybe I'll be all über pro and switch to low settings from medium).

Thank you so much for this! You are a gentleman and a scholar. I might still be on Windows 7 a lot to play because of that shakiness thing that OS X causes (and because of osu!, lol), but now I have a completely legitimate option in OS X and won't be annoyed by constant switching!
"If you can chill, chill." -Liquid`Tyler "Special tactics." -White-Ra
Bumblebees
Profile Joined August 2010
United States328 Posts
February 25 2011 01:41 GMT
#49
On February 25 2011 08:02 xs101 wrote:
Holy ! It actually worked !!!
Using a Steelseries XAI here.

I've been struggling to find a solution to the dreaded mouse cursor problem in osx in ages... Tried ControllerMate, modding Microsoft drivers, usb overdrive, steermouse... none worked. This works great ! mouse movement same as windows.

Bumblebees, by dpi setting on the mouse you meant the one from windows right ? Because I had it set in windows and in osx just installed MouseFixer and in worked !


Yes.

You can also do it on the mouse, without having to boot into windows.
Bumblebees
Profile Joined August 2010
United States328 Posts
February 25 2011 01:45 GMT
#50
On February 25 2011 08:47 Char711 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2011 03:53 Bumblebees wrote:
On February 21 2011 03:42 Char711 wrote:
On February 21 2011 02:52 Bumblebees wrote:
On February 21 2011 02:32 ReachTheSky wrote:
There is also a program called steermouse available for download on teh interwebz


Steermouse doesn't do what this does. Steermouse changes it once.

The problem is that some OGL applications, such as starcraft modify or take over HID i/o. If you use steermouse or USB overdrive then minimize your window, goto something and go back, it gets messed up. This not only happens in SC2, but some steam games in my experience.

Along with this, driver panels such as Razer's have an option to turn off accel. The problem is that the razer panel sets the OS sensitivity to the lowest setting (which is actually linear btw). You have to the increase the DPI of your mouse tremendously to make up for it. Steermouse and USB overdrive do not help here.

Not only that, but steermouse/usb overdrive do not allow you to precisely setup your mouse to be identical to a windows configuration. With this app, if you setup your driver panel the same in OS X and in Windows, you are guaranteed to have the same mouse movement... at least it does with razer so far

The whole Razer to lowest sensitivity thing is essentially what got me to install SC2 on the Windows 7 partition of my MacBook Pro (I'd originally planned to keep OS X as my main and be able to launch SC2 whenever, but I'm now relegated to normally using Windows 7 if I think I want to play soon).

Thank you so much for working on this! USB Overdrive and Terminal commands just didn't work for me and I can't wait until you get this all working and release it! Maybe I'll be able to stay in OS X again!



I'm 100% this works with the razer deathadder.

If you didn't send me a PM, please do.

I'm sorry I didn't respond! I only bookmarked this thread to return to later when I figured you might have a public release (I've been too busy to do much testing work for you anyways).

I am happy to report that I just installed this and ran two games. The transition from desktop to SC2 was seamless and I even minimized to start iTunes (a real treat since I've been unable to listen to music on my Windows partition since my Internet is too slow/shaky to stream music alongside the game) and queue up some music. Incredible job! As far as I can tell this is pretty much spot on what I get in Windows 7. There seem to be just a few moments where the control is different, but this is probably just some hiccup on the part of OS X -- I think you've done as well as is humanly possible. (Note also that I set this to 125hz -- as recommended -- and 1800dpi while I normally go up one hz setting in Windows.)

The games went smoothly and were pretty close to what I'm used to. I'm pretty sure that the shakiness I experienced was just that OS X can't run the game as smoothly as Windows 7 because of all of that wonderful graphics processing (hmm . . . maybe I'll be all über pro and switch to low settings from medium).

Thank you so much for this! You are a gentleman and a scholar. I might still be on Windows 7 a lot to play because of that shakiness thing that OS X causes (and because of osu!, lol), but now I have a completely legitimate option in OS X and won't be annoyed by constant switching!



Great to hear.

There will be minor hiccups because some OGL games will struggle to take over control of the mouse. It can a short time (no longer than 2x your polling interval, so about 16ms for 125hz). These should only occur when switching back and forth between stuff, and should be fairly rare.
Bumblebees
Profile Joined August 2010
United States328 Posts
February 25 2011 01:53 GMT
#51
New version up. Slightly better installer and a fairly major performance increase.
AyameStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom192 Posts
February 25 2011 11:16 GMT
#52
On February 25 2011 10:53 Bumblebees wrote:
New version up. Slightly better installer and a fairly major performance increase.



Noticed that the second version has a speed decrease on my mouse. As in, the mouse is less sensitive with the second release.
// ᴵᴹᴍᴠᴘ \\
xs101
Profile Joined June 2010
Romania86 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-25 13:28:16
February 25 2011 13:27 GMT
#53
Can I just say that this guy is awesome, I mean he made a free software that makes OSX usable, and that no other commercial software managed to do... I mean wtf...
You are amazing sir !
asebist
Profile Joined February 2011
Austria1 Post
February 25 2011 13:38 GMT
#54
Hi Awesome Programmer,

Works perfectly with an Razer Death Adder under Snow Leopard.
Thanks man, no need for reboot anymore only for training build order.

you rock
bowing asebist
labbe
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
February 25 2011 15:03 GMT
#55
On February 25 2011 06:20 Bumblebees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 02:33 labbe wrote:
With USB Overdrive it does not cancel out acceleration. Does not matter if i check or uncheck the acceleration box, and the sliders on acceleration and sensitivity has no impact on the mouse movement what so ever. Enable/Disable USB Overdrive does not seem to have any effect either.

Long story short: With USB Overdrive the acceleration is still there, and no settings in USB Overdrive has any effect on mouse movement.

I use a Steelseries Xai.


Uninstall usb overdrive.

This works fantastic with the Xai on its own. I have 20+ reports of it working fantastic with that mouse. Use the dpi setting on the mouse to adjust sensitivity, and it is identical to windows with the same settings of the mouse.

Let me know if you still have trouble.


Only problem with this is that without USB Overdrive, I can't use the mouse's sidebuttons go go back/forward in the browser, which I can't live without But maybe good cursor movement trumps that.
Shady
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria115 Posts
February 27 2011 19:16 GMT
#56
WOW THANK YOU SO MUCH! Ive tried dozens of apps/workarounds but nothing really worked. Ive stopped playin SC2 because i bought an iMac but finally i can play again seriously.

Im using a Logitech G5, and it works perfectly!

Gonna donate you something :D
Bumblebees
Profile Joined August 2010
United States328 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-27 23:21:13
February 27 2011 23:20 GMT
#57
On February 26 2011 00:03 labbe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 06:20 Bumblebees wrote:
On February 25 2011 02:33 labbe wrote:
With USB Overdrive it does not cancel out acceleration. Does not matter if i check or uncheck the acceleration box, and the sliders on acceleration and sensitivity has no impact on the mouse movement what so ever. Enable/Disable USB Overdrive does not seem to have any effect either.

Long story short: With USB Overdrive the acceleration is still there, and no settings in USB Overdrive has any effect on mouse movement.

I use a Steelseries Xai.


Uninstall usb overdrive.

This works fantastic with the Xai on its own. I have 20+ reports of it working fantastic with that mouse. Use the dpi setting on the mouse to adjust sensitivity, and it is identical to windows with the same settings of the mouse.

Let me know if you still have trouble.


Only problem with this is that without USB Overdrive, I can't use the mouse's sidebuttons go go back/forward in the browser, which I can't live without But maybe good cursor movement trumps that.


I wonder if steermouse works with mousefixer? That could be a solution for you.


Could you uninstall usb overdrive temporarily and tell me if other applications recognize your back/forward buttons on your Xai? General gaming apps like steam games, ventrilo/mumble/teamspeak/skype, blizzard games etc..

thank you
labbe
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
February 28 2011 14:35 GMT
#58
Half Life 2 recognizes the buttons as "Mouse 4" and "Mouse 5" with usb overdrive uninstalled. The same goes for SC2.
Kambing
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1176 Posts
February 28 2011 16:36 GMT
#59
This works for me with a logitech g9x with no additional drivers installed. I'll have to consider switching back to osx after the semester ends, hrm...
Char711
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States862 Posts
February 28 2011 22:18 GMT
#60
On February 25 2011 10:53 Bumblebees wrote:
New version up. Slightly better installer and a fairly major performance increase.

It will just automatically overwrite old versions without a problem, correct? I'm sure it does, but I don't want to ruin the nirvana you've already given me.
"If you can chill, chill." -Liquid`Tyler "Special tactics." -White-Ra
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