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I've seen all the threads about OS X mousing in games, SC2's weird behaviour with razer and logitech drivers etc... Being an OS X user myself I decided to fix the problem.
I've created a program that sets the OS X mouse scaling to a truly linear scale then monitors applications to keep them from changing it (such as SC2). It also works along side most mouse control panels.
Not only this, but with Razer mice, it makes the control panel settings result in identical mouse behaviour in Windows AND OS X! The same settings will give you identical mouse feel!
This should work with _any_ mouse that allows you to set the DPI onboard or in a control panel. I am working on a version that should allow sensitivity/dpi(model specific) changes on mice that have neither.
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2.24.11 - Second release!!
http://www.mediafire.com/?hiyxnpw8c84n6i1
MAKE SURE YOU RESTART AFTER INSTALLATION! or it will not work until you do.
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Please read the readme! It is important. If you have questions, please ask in this thread.
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If you would like to donate, please contact me. This application is 100% free, but the medication that allows me the ability to even sit at my computer and play sc2 or program is expensive  (see: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=163299)
Update 8-26-2011:
Approximate Donation Breakdown (what have I done with any money I've received relative to this project)
$215 donated to child's play charity
$??? I've asked a bunch of people to donate directly to child's play instead of sending me money. I do not know the exact amount. There's been about 20 people I've asked to do this.
$175 purchased an auction lot of mechanical keyboards to facilitate another OS X gaming project I'm working on. I sold one of the keyboards for a total spent of $65. Difference was used for groceries and 2 pairs of cheap pants. Woo!
$110 Medication for myself, specifically 2 months of Acebutolol.
$70 Purchased myself a birthday present. U-he ACE - http://www.u-he.com/cms/ace
I'm probably going to buy myself a birthday present with half of the money in the account if I have some left over at the end of the month.  Screw it, birthday only once a year and it's an excellent way to rationalize enjoying yourself a bit.
Thank you to everyone who's donated so far!
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Windows guys, think of this as a CPL mouse fix that overrides in-game mouse control, except for OS X. It's quite a bit different in how it works, but the result is essentially that.
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Thats awesome man, thanks for the work!
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Wow so this partially explains why my Razer mouse performs beautifully on my PC and is really erratic on my mac. I thought it was just because I had my settings messed up somehow (dont really know much about mice) or because I didnt download the CD that came with it (only works for PCs).
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On February 21 2011 02:24 Knee_of_Justice wrote:
Wow so this partially explains why my Razer mouse performs beautifully on my PC and is really erratic on my mac. I thought it was just because I had my settings messed up somehow (dont really know much about mice) or because I didnt download the CD that came with it (only works for PCs).
It's because of how SC2 interfaces with the HID stuff in openGL, and how the razer control panel sets the acceleration values.
This program monitors GL applications to make sure they don't change stuff around, and correctly sets the acceleration.
I should mention that this only works if you want linear acceleration. If you want an accelerated mouse, then you probably should go play quake live hehe
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There is also a program called steermouse available for download on teh interwebz
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I would love to test it, sending you a pm right now
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Wow, this sounds awesome! I've been using USB overdrive for a while now, and it's adequate, but definitely has problems. I'll definitely give this a try.
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wow! You my man, would be my hero if you can! I would love you forever
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On February 21 2011 02:32 ReachTheSky wrote:
There is also a program called steermouse available for download on teh interwebz
Steermouse doesn't do what this does. Steermouse changes it once.
The problem is that some OGL applications, such as starcraft modify or take over HID i/o. If you use steermouse or USB overdrive then minimize your window, goto something and go back, it gets messed up. This not only happens in SC2, but some steam games in my experience.
Along with this, driver panels such as Razer's have an option to turn off accel. The problem is that the razer panel sets the OS sensitivity to the lowest setting (which is actually linear btw). You have to the increase the DPI of your mouse tremendously to make up for it. Steermouse and USB overdrive do not help here.
Not only that, but steermouse/usb overdrive do not allow you to precisely setup your mouse to be identical to a windows configuration. With this app, if you setup your driver panel the same in OS X and in Windows, you are guaranteed to have the same mouse movement... at least it does with razer so far
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If this works as it should, you sir, are my hero!
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Steermouse doesn't do what this does. It changes it once.
The problem is that some OGL applications, such as starcraft modify or take over HID i/o. If you use steermouse or USB overdrive then minimize your window, goto something and go back, it gets messed up. This not only happens in SC2, but some steam games in my experience.
Along with this, driver panels such as Razer's have an option to turn off accel. The problem is that the razer panel sets the OS sensitivity to the lowest setting (which is actually linear btw). You have to the increase the DPI of your mouse tremendously to make up for it. Steermouse and USB overdrive do not help here.
Not only that, but steermouse/usb overdrive do not allow you to precisely setup your mouse to be identical to a windows configuration. With this app, if you setup your driver panel the same in OS X and in Windows, you are guaranteed to have the same mouse movement... at least it does with razer so far
omg bumblebees you are my hero if this works. All of the problems you described are what I have been struggling with on my F#$%#$in macbook. I got my Razer mouse mostly because the razer drivers seemed to be the best option. killmouse and steermouse both only worked if I was willing to constantly reset it. So now my mouse is set at 4000 DPI and 3% in SC because of what you described. I like it jumpier but very slight increases of percentage make it tooo jumpy. anyways ill test for you if you want
edit: as of a week later you are officially MY HERO. This worked immediately, and it is so nice to not have to automatically re-open the Orochi preferences every time I sign in and out of starcraft. Not only that but the acceleration is actually gone at super high DPS settings so thank you thank you thank you!
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USB Overdrive fixed my mac mouse issues 100%, i have a bluetooth logitech mouse.
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USB overdrive never did it for me. I would still get some acceleration at very slow movement speeds. If there's a program that truly works then great news!
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I've got a Razer Imperator running on my mac with SC2. USB overdrive or steermouse never really did it for me because SC2 totally ignores them as you said.
I've PMed you.
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On February 21 2011 02:52 Bumblebees wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2011 02:32 ReachTheSky wrote:
There is also a program called steermouse available for download on teh interwebz Steermouse doesn't do what this does. Steermouse changes it once. The problem is that some OGL applications, such as starcraft modify or take over HID i/o. If you use steermouse or USB overdrive then minimize your window, goto something and go back, it gets messed up. This not only happens in SC2, but some steam games in my experience. Along with this, driver panels such as Razer's have an option to turn off accel. The problem is that the razer panel sets the OS sensitivity to the lowest setting (which is actually linear btw). You have to the increase the DPI of your mouse tremendously to make up for it. Steermouse and USB overdrive do not help here. Not only that, but steermouse/usb overdrive do not allow you to precisely setup your mouse to be identical to a windows configuration. With this app, if you setup your driver panel the same in OS X and in Windows, you are guaranteed to have the same mouse movement... at least it does with razer so far
The whole Razer to lowest sensitivity thing is essentially what got me to install SC2 on the Windows 7 partition of my MacBook Pro (I'd originally planned to keep OS X as my main and be able to launch SC2 whenever, but I'm now relegated to normally using Windows 7 if I think I want to play soon).
Thank you so much for working on this! USB Overdrive and Terminal commands just didn't work for me and I can't wait until you get this all working and release it! Maybe I'll be able to stay in OS X again!
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Cool. I'm going to move this to Tech Support with all the "help my mouse is messed up" threads though.
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On February 21 2011 03:42 Char711 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2011 02:52 Bumblebees wrote:On February 21 2011 02:32 ReachTheSky wrote:
There is also a program called steermouse available for download on teh interwebz Steermouse doesn't do what this does. Steermouse changes it once. The problem is that some OGL applications, such as starcraft modify or take over HID i/o. If you use steermouse or USB overdrive then minimize your window, goto something and go back, it gets messed up. This not only happens in SC2, but some steam games in my experience. Along with this, driver panels such as Razer's have an option to turn off accel. The problem is that the razer panel sets the OS sensitivity to the lowest setting (which is actually linear btw). You have to the increase the DPI of your mouse tremendously to make up for it. Steermouse and USB overdrive do not help here. Not only that, but steermouse/usb overdrive do not allow you to precisely setup your mouse to be identical to a windows configuration. With this app, if you setup your driver panel the same in OS X and in Windows, you are guaranteed to have the same mouse movement... at least it does with razer so far The whole Razer to lowest sensitivity thing is essentially what got me to install SC2 on the Windows 7 partition of my MacBook Pro (I'd originally planned to keep OS X as my main and be able to launch SC2 whenever, but I'm now relegated to normally using Windows 7 if I think I want to play soon). Thank you so much for working on this! USB Overdrive and Terminal commands just didn't work for me and I can't wait until you get this all working and release it! Maybe I'll be able to stay in OS X again!
I'm 100% this works with the razer deathadder.
If you didn't send me a PM, please do.
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I sent out about 50 test apps here and on reddit. I'm going to wait for responses before the next build.
Thanks everyone!
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Wow thank you so much for trying to fix this! I'd love to give this a test run.
There's another mouse issue that I'm aware of on mac that isn't related to mouse speed - it's been documented and experienced by me that if USB polling is set to above 125mhz the cursor skips erratically. I'm not sure if this is widely known or not - but I couldn't even use my new razer mouse until I figured that out and set the polling rate to that in the CP.
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On February 21 2011 07:32 h0peless wrote:
Wow thank you so much for trying to fix this! I'd love to give this a test run.
There's another mouse issue that I'm aware of on mac that isn't related to mouse speed - it's been documented and experienced by me that if USB polling is set to above 125mhz the cursor skips erratically. I'm not sure if this is widely known or not - but I couldn't even use my new razer mouse until I figured that out and set the polling rate to that in the CP.
There's actually a fix for this that I'm trying to implement into this program.
It would fix the skipping/jumping on logitech mice if I can get it working.
The problem though, is that this is a defect of OS X combined with improper usb usage by logitech. It's a straight up bug compounded by bad design.
Don't hold your breath :D If you can set your polling to 125hz (or ~10ms), please do!
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sent pm for test, hope this works
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I have a Razer Imperator, and I found a way to fix the erratic mouse behavior in OS X with SCII. You can turn off the acceleration of the Imperator under system preferences, but we all know the mouse will still act ridiculous when you play SCII. If you set the sensitivity to 0% in Starcraft, the mouse will behave completely normally. I'm not sure if this is widely known as I just recently figured it out, or if it works with other mice, but now I no longer have to switch to my Windows 7 partition to feel comfortable playing.
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On February 21 2011 07:57 DontUFeelFAT wrote:
I have a Razer Imperator, and I found a way to fix the erratic mouse behavior in OS X with SCII. You can turn off the acceleration of the Imperator under system preferences, but we all know the mouse will still act ridiculous when you play SCII. If you set the sensitivity to 0% in Starcraft, the mouse will behave completely normally. I'm not sure if this is widely known as I just recently figured it out, or if it works with other mice, but now I no longer have to switch to my Windows 7 partition to feel comfortable playing.
The problem is that if you minimize in and out, it can go crazy.
That's also not a solution for other games This is.
I have lots of confirmed working reports so far!
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Haha I have noticed the minimizing going crazy for a little bit, good point!
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I have a Razer Deathadder and can confirm this fix does indeed work. I had to fiddle with some of the settings on my Razer driver, but am now operating on what feels like my windows sensitivity. I am elated Bumblebees was able to fix this problem, as it's one I've been struggling with for a while now.
Hopefully, as this project develops, it will work for all mac users. There certainly is reason to have hope! Many thanks to Bumblebees for working on this!
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Wooooooaaaaah. If this ends up working this will be huuuuuuge. Generations of legions of multitudes of mac users will bow down before you in abject obeisance.
gl!!
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pm sent. Thanks a lot for putting time into this.
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I think you were asking for problems with games when you bought a mac =\
User was temp banned for this post.
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I would love this to work. I've tried USB Overdrive, Logitech and Razer drivers to no avail. Switching to bootcamp to play is quite annoying. If I can help with the testing at all let me know.
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On February 21 2011 13:30 Basshoven792 wrote:
I would love this to work. I've tried USB Overdrive, Logitech and Razer drivers to no avail. Switching to bootcamp to play is quite annoying. If I can help with the testing at all let me know.
It definitely works with razer mice. I've had it tested on all models now. Any model with mac drivers is 100% good to go.
Some of the models without mac drivers require a bit of tweaking. Hopefully I can handle that working around that
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i got it working on my deathadder, had to set sensitivity on drivers to 10 and dpi to 1800, i get a slight slow down of the curser when i change windows to sc2, but i think thats just the fix working, so it makes me happy haha.
thanks a lot!
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This is cool, are we talking about the one button mac mouse?
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On February 21 2011 14:23 Jayzo wrote:
i got it working on my deathadder, had to set sensitivity on drivers to 10 and dpi to 1800, i get a slight slow down of the curser when i change windows to sc2, but i think thats just the fix working, so it makes me happy haha.
thanks a lot!
That slowdown should be significantly lessened in the version I'm putting out tomorrow. It's actually a bug.
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Btw guys, I don't think it's possible for me to make this work with mice that don't have DPI or driver sensitivity settings. I'd have to write my own generic driver (essentially write usb overdrive!), and I have no interest in that.
At this point, I think it's safe to say that you can run razer orochi, imperator, deathadder, naga and steelseries xai for sure.
I just tried personally with a logitech g5, and it felt pretty decent.
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whoa this will be so great if it works! usb overdrive really doesn't cut it at all
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I'm so excited to try this out. The only piece of software i have been more excited about recently is Starcraft 2 itself :D
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I really appreciate your work, I had a hard time to figure out how to get a decent mouse control with my Copperhead and Mac OS.
USB Overdrive works for me though. I've set Starcraft's mouse "speed" to 0% as well as Mac OS's acceleration. In USB Overdrive I set the mouse speed to 100% and turned off acceleration. That removes acceleration completely and lets me tab around as often as I want.
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sent pm wait for you thx for your amazing work
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Wow, it works great.
As a long time (since launch) user of the regular os x mouse in SC2, it was a little weird to get used to. Just give it a few games and it really becomes second nature.
One thing to note, make sure you turn down your scroll wheel speed in the Razer control panel. After the updates it's crazy fast. I had to turn it all the way down for it to be normal.
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Thanks for the great work, just confirming that this works for the Razer Orochi really well. I'm a long-time PC gamer who just got a nice macbook as a present from grandparents (haven't been able to afford my own choice for a while) and I have been tearing my hair out making the mouse feel right, not just for gaming but for general usage. thank you thank you thank you
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I have confirmed that this will work for any mouse just about. It will make your mouse perform like default settings in windows (without enhance precision).
If you have a driver panel, adjust settings there for DPI and sensitivity. If you do not... well, sorry. OS X is a weird beast when it comes to mouse input.
I'm waiting to hear from USB overdrive users how it works with the sensitivity option in there.
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Here's what I found with USB overdrive:
The speed slider does not seem to have any effect whatsoever on the sensitivity. However, once the Acceleration slider is enabled (box checked), the sensitivity drops to almost nothing (Like 1 foot of mouse movement = 1cm cursor movement).
After I unchecked and rechecked the acceleration box, the sensitivity problem went away. So now having acceleration checked keeps normal sensitivity but DOES enable acceleration.
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Thank you man, I can confirm this works with a Razer Abyssus.
Now I can use my mouse properly and not have to deal with the horrible accel curve :D
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With USB Overdrive it does not cancel out acceleration. Does not matter if i check or uncheck the acceleration box, and the sliders on acceleration and sensitivity has no impact on the mouse movement what so ever. Enable/Disable USB Overdrive does not seem to have any effect either.
Long story short: With USB Overdrive the acceleration is still there, and no settings in USB Overdrive has any effect on mouse movement.
I use a Steelseries Xai.
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On February 25 2011 02:33 labbe wrote:
With USB Overdrive it does not cancel out acceleration. Does not matter if i check or uncheck the acceleration box, and the sliders on acceleration and sensitivity has no impact on the mouse movement what so ever. Enable/Disable USB Overdrive does not seem to have any effect either.
Long story short: With USB Overdrive the acceleration is still there, and no settings in USB Overdrive has any effect on mouse movement.
I use a Steelseries Xai.
Uninstall usb overdrive.
This works fantastic with the Xai on its own. I have 20+ reports of it working fantastic with that mouse. Use the dpi setting on the mouse to adjust sensitivity, and it is identical to windows with the same settings of the mouse.
Let me know if you still have trouble.
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Holy ! It actually worked !!!
Using a Steelseries XAI here.
I've been struggling to find a solution to the dreaded mouse cursor problem in osx in ages... Tried ControllerMate, modding Microsoft drivers, usb overdrive, steermouse... none worked. This works great ! mouse movement same as windows.
Bumblebees, by dpi setting on the mouse you meant the one from windows right ? Because I had it set in windows and in osx just installed MouseFixer and in worked !
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On February 21 2011 03:53 Bumblebees wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2011 03:42 Char711 wrote:On February 21 2011 02:52 Bumblebees wrote:On February 21 2011 02:32 ReachTheSky wrote:
There is also a program called steermouse available for download on teh interwebz Steermouse doesn't do what this does. Steermouse changes it once. The problem is that some OGL applications, such as starcraft modify or take over HID i/o. If you use steermouse or USB overdrive then minimize your window, goto something and go back, it gets messed up. This not only happens in SC2, but some steam games in my experience. Along with this, driver panels such as Razer's have an option to turn off accel. The problem is that the razer panel sets the OS sensitivity to the lowest setting (which is actually linear btw). You have to the increase the DPI of your mouse tremendously to make up for it. Steermouse and USB overdrive do not help here. Not only that, but steermouse/usb overdrive do not allow you to precisely setup your mouse to be identical to a windows configuration. With this app, if you setup your driver panel the same in OS X and in Windows, you are guaranteed to have the same mouse movement... at least it does with razer so far The whole Razer to lowest sensitivity thing is essentially what got me to install SC2 on the Windows 7 partition of my MacBook Pro (I'd originally planned to keep OS X as my main and be able to launch SC2 whenever, but I'm now relegated to normally using Windows 7 if I think I want to play soon). Thank you so much for working on this! USB Overdrive and Terminal commands just didn't work for me and I can't wait until you get this all working and release it! Maybe I'll be able to stay in OS X again! I'm 100% this works with the razer deathadder. If you didn't send me a PM, please do.
I'm sorry I didn't respond! I only bookmarked this thread to return to later when I figured you might have a public release (I've been too busy to do much testing work for you anyways).
I am happy to report that I just installed this and ran two games. The transition from desktop to SC2 was seamless and I even minimized to start iTunes (a real treat since I've been unable to listen to music on my Windows partition since my Internet is too slow/shaky to stream music alongside the game) and queue up some music. Incredible job! As far as I can tell this is pretty much spot on what I get in Windows 7. There seem to be just a few moments where the control is different, but this is probably just some hiccup on the part of OS X -- I think you've done as well as is humanly possible. (Note also that I set this to 125hz -- as recommended -- and 1800dpi while I normally go up one hz setting in Windows.)
The games went smoothly and were pretty close to what I'm used to. I'm pretty sure that the shakiness I experienced was just that OS X can't run the game as smoothly as Windows 7 because of all of that wonderful graphics processing (hmm . . . maybe I'll be all über pro and switch to low settings from medium).
Thank you so much for this! You are a gentleman and a scholar. I might still be on Windows 7 a lot to play because of that shakiness thing that OS X causes (and because of osu!, lol), but now I have a completely legitimate option in OS X and won't be annoyed by constant switching!
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On February 25 2011 08:02 xs101 wrote:
Holy ! It actually worked !!!
Using a Steelseries XAI here.
I've been struggling to find a solution to the dreaded mouse cursor problem in osx in ages... Tried ControllerMate, modding Microsoft drivers, usb overdrive, steermouse... none worked. This works great ! mouse movement same as windows.
Bumblebees, by dpi setting on the mouse you meant the one from windows right ? Because I had it set in windows and in osx just installed MouseFixer and in worked !
Yes.
You can also do it on the mouse, without having to boot into windows.
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On February 25 2011 08:47 Char711 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2011 03:53 Bumblebees wrote:On February 21 2011 03:42 Char711 wrote:On February 21 2011 02:52 Bumblebees wrote:On February 21 2011 02:32 ReachTheSky wrote:
There is also a program called steermouse available for download on teh interwebz Steermouse doesn't do what this does. Steermouse changes it once. The problem is that some OGL applications, such as starcraft modify or take over HID i/o. If you use steermouse or USB overdrive then minimize your window, goto something and go back, it gets messed up. This not only happens in SC2, but some steam games in my experience. Along with this, driver panels such as Razer's have an option to turn off accel. The problem is that the razer panel sets the OS sensitivity to the lowest setting (which is actually linear btw). You have to the increase the DPI of your mouse tremendously to make up for it. Steermouse and USB overdrive do not help here. Not only that, but steermouse/usb overdrive do not allow you to precisely setup your mouse to be identical to a windows configuration. With this app, if you setup your driver panel the same in OS X and in Windows, you are guaranteed to have the same mouse movement... at least it does with razer so far The whole Razer to lowest sensitivity thing is essentially what got me to install SC2 on the Windows 7 partition of my MacBook Pro (I'd originally planned to keep OS X as my main and be able to launch SC2 whenever, but I'm now relegated to normally using Windows 7 if I think I want to play soon). Thank you so much for working on this! USB Overdrive and Terminal commands just didn't work for me and I can't wait until you get this all working and release it! Maybe I'll be able to stay in OS X again! I'm 100% this works with the razer deathadder. If you didn't send me a PM, please do. I'm sorry I didn't respond! I only bookmarked this thread to return to later when I figured you might have a public release (I've been too busy to do much testing work for you anyways). I am happy to report that I just installed this and ran two games. The transition from desktop to SC2 was seamless and I even minimized to start iTunes (a real treat since I've been unable to listen to music on my Windows partition since my Internet is too slow/shaky to stream music alongside the game) and queue up some music. Incredible job! As far as I can tell this is pretty much spot on what I get in Windows 7. There seem to be just a few moments where the control is different, but this is probably just some hiccup on the part of OS X -- I think you've done as well as is humanly possible. (Note also that I set this to 125hz -- as recommended -- and 1800dpi while I normally go up one hz setting in Windows.) The games went smoothly and were pretty close to what I'm used to. I'm pretty sure that the shakiness I experienced was just that OS X can't run the game as smoothly as Windows 7 because of all of that wonderful graphics processing (hmm . . . maybe I'll be all über pro and switch to low settings from medium). Thank you so much for this! You are a gentleman and a scholar. I might still be on Windows 7 a lot to play because of that shakiness thing that OS X causes (and because of osu!, lol), but now I have a completely legitimate option in OS X and won't be annoyed by constant switching!
Great to hear.
There will be minor hiccups because some OGL games will struggle to take over control of the mouse. It can a short time (no longer than 2x your polling interval, so about 16ms for 125hz). These should only occur when switching back and forth between stuff, and should be fairly rare.
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New version up. Slightly better installer and a fairly major performance increase.
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On February 25 2011 10:53 Bumblebees wrote:
New version up. Slightly better installer and a fairly major performance increase.
Noticed that the second version has a speed decrease on my mouse. As in, the mouse is less sensitive with the second release.
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Can I just say that this guy is awesome, I mean he made a free software that makes OSX usable, and that no other commercial software managed to do... I mean wtf...
You are amazing sir !
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Hi Awesome Programmer,
Works perfectly with an Razer Death Adder under Snow Leopard.
Thanks man, no need for reboot anymore only for training build order.
you rock
bowing asebist
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On February 25 2011 06:20 Bumblebees wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 02:33 labbe wrote:
With USB Overdrive it does not cancel out acceleration. Does not matter if i check or uncheck the acceleration box, and the sliders on acceleration and sensitivity has no impact on the mouse movement what so ever. Enable/Disable USB Overdrive does not seem to have any effect either.
Long story short: With USB Overdrive the acceleration is still there, and no settings in USB Overdrive has any effect on mouse movement.
I use a Steelseries Xai. Uninstall usb overdrive. This works fantastic with the Xai on its own. I have 20+ reports of it working fantastic with that mouse. Use the dpi setting on the mouse to adjust sensitivity, and it is identical to windows with the same settings of the mouse. Let me know if you still have trouble.
Only problem with this is that without USB Overdrive, I can't use the mouse's sidebuttons go go back/forward in the browser, which I can't live without But maybe good cursor movement trumps that.
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WOW THANK YOU SO MUCH! Ive tried dozens of apps/workarounds but nothing really worked. Ive stopped playin SC2 because i bought an iMac but finally i can play again seriously.
Im using a Logitech G5, and it works perfectly!
Gonna donate you something :D
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On February 26 2011 00:03 labbe wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 06:20 Bumblebees wrote:On February 25 2011 02:33 labbe wrote:
With USB Overdrive it does not cancel out acceleration. Does not matter if i check or uncheck the acceleration box, and the sliders on acceleration and sensitivity has no impact on the mouse movement what so ever. Enable/Disable USB Overdrive does not seem to have any effect either.
Long story short: With USB Overdrive the acceleration is still there, and no settings in USB Overdrive has any effect on mouse movement.
I use a Steelseries Xai. Uninstall usb overdrive. This works fantastic with the Xai on its own. I have 20+ reports of it working fantastic with that mouse. Use the dpi setting on the mouse to adjust sensitivity, and it is identical to windows with the same settings of the mouse. Let me know if you still have trouble. Only problem with this is that without USB Overdrive, I can't use the mouse's sidebuttons go go back/forward in the browser, which I can't live without But maybe good cursor movement trumps that.
I wonder if steermouse works with mousefixer? That could be a solution for you.
Could you uninstall usb overdrive temporarily and tell me if other applications recognize your back/forward buttons on your Xai? General gaming apps like steam games, ventrilo/mumble/teamspeak/skype, blizzard games etc..
thank you
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Half Life 2 recognizes the buttons as "Mouse 4" and "Mouse 5" with usb overdrive uninstalled. The same goes for SC2.
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This works for me with a logitech g9x with no additional drivers installed. I'll have to consider switching back to osx after the semester ends, hrm...
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On February 25 2011 10:53 Bumblebees wrote:
New version up. Slightly better installer and a fairly major performance increase.
It will just automatically overwrite old versions without a problem, correct? I'm sure it does, but I don't want to ruin the nirvana you've already given me.
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On March 01 2011 07:18 Char711 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 10:53 Bumblebees wrote:
New version up. Slightly better installer and a fairly major performance increase. It will just automatically overwrite old versions without a problem, correct? I'm sure it does, but I don't want to ruin the nirvana you've already given me.
Correct.
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Hey thanks a lot Bumblebees, just got my new Macbook and was scared when I couldnt find a way to disable mouse accel for the life of me. You saved me!
Edit: Logitech MX518 here if we're taking notes. No mouse software installed, just plug-and-play.
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On March 03 2011 14:18 Nokarot wrote:
Hey thanks a lot Bumblebees, just got my new Macbook and was scared when I couldnt find a way to disable mouse accel for the life of me. You saved me!
Edit: Logitech MX518 here if we're taking notes. No mouse software installed, just plug-and-play.
Hah, don't worry. I only switched from my MX518 to my DeathAdder this past Christmas. I assure you, Logitech doesn't support the MX518 with their preference panel on the Mac. (It's annoying as hell.)
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I'm really glad this is working for logitech mice. That makes me very, very glad to have spent so much time on this!
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Thanks a lot. What a great community with all these people!
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Hey man,
I have a strange bug with the deathadder: when I set the polling to 125 (to prevent the skipping) and do fast moves the mouse seems to get stuck right where the movement started. Its kind of like an invisible line across the screen the mouse can't cross. Do you know anything about this bug and how to get rid of it?
Your fix didn't change this behaviour, but apart from that the movement feels smoother now. Didn't try SC2 yet.
I use the razer drivers v2.02. 3.0 drivers gives me an unspecific error during installation.
Thanks for your work.
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Read the thread, still don't really get it.
I have the logitech mx518. I also have USB Overdrive installed at the moment.
Will this work with my mouse? And if so, do I use USB Overdrive to set mouse speed etc, or do I uninstall USB Overdrive and use the OSX mouse prefs, or do I just use the DPI buttons on the mouse itself or what exactly?
Sorry for being dim!
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man so nice of razer to not even make mac drivers for the abyssus. does that thing just run weird ALL the time for anyone else, or just SC? i've been using my magic mouse, and while it's too slow for my liking, at least it's precise enough for everyday use.
your program got it running smooth i think, thanks! but now none of the DPI settings and whatnot are to my liking :/
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On March 10 2011 02:34 Artvarg wrote:
Hey man,
I have a strange bug with the deathadder: when I set the polling to 125 (to prevent the skipping) and do fast moves the mouse seems to get stuck right where the movement started. Its kind of like an invisible line across the screen the mouse can't cross. Do you know anything about this bug and how to get rid of it?
Your fix didn't change this behaviour, but apart from that the movement feels smoother now. Didn't try SC2 yet.
I use the razer drivers v2.02. 3.0 drivers gives me an unspecific error during installation.
Thanks for your work.
Either your mousing surface or the lens on your mouse is dirty. I've seen the problem a few times on razer mice.
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On March 10 2011 08:25 chocopan wrote:
Read the thread, still don't really get it.
I have the logitech mx518. I also have USB Overdrive installed at the moment.
Will this work with my mouse? And if so, do I use USB Overdrive to set mouse speed etc, or do I uninstall USB Overdrive and use the OSX mouse prefs, or do I just use the DPI buttons on the mouse itself or what exactly?
Sorry for being dim!
Uninstall usb overdrive, install mousefixer. Use DPI on the mouse to adjust sensitivity.
That's all If you don't like it, go back to usb overdrive, but I assure you it's less accurate.
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Can I ask the MX518 users what their in-game sensitivity is after all of this? I just bought a new mouse and I am completely thrown off with my mouse settings. I don't even know what's comfortable and suits me anymore! Please help. Last I had it on the 1800dpi setting with an ingame sensitivity of 9%. I think im on the 3rd bar of sensitivity in osx settings.
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If you use anything except 0% in sc2, you are adding acceleration to the mouse ballistics. Kind of defeats the point of using mousefixer at all
OS X settings do nothing with mousefixer installed. Anything you notice after changing it is just a placebo.
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Hey everyone,
Can anyone confirm if this works for the Razer Abyssus? I just got mine and even with USB overdrive its driving me crazy with the little amount of acceleration that's enough to put someone over the edge.
EDIT: I downloaded and installed the program for use with my Abyssus. It seems as though it ignores any sensitivity I set in any of the games I play (SC2 and TF2, for example.) Is there any way to bypass this while enjoying the benefits of mouse accel elimination that this program offers?
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Ok so, no USB overdrive. install mousefixer. Ignore OSX mouse settings. Set SC2 Options mouse to 0%. Set dpi manually with buttons on mouse. ??? profit.
got it. Thanks for the advice!
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On March 16 2011 07:46 SolShock wrote:
Hey everyone,
Can anyone confirm if this works for the Razer Abyssus? I just got mine and even with USB overdrive its driving me crazy with the little amount of acceleration that's enough to put someone over the edge.
EDIT: I downloaded and installed the program for use with my Abyssus. It seems as though it ignores any sensitivity I set in any of the games I play (SC2 and TF2, for example.) Is there any way to bypass this while enjoying the benefits of mouse accel elimination that this program offers?
You have to adjust sensitivity via DPI settings with your mouse. There should be a toggle on the bottom of your razer abyssus to adjust DPI.
Unfortunately, there is no way for mousefixer to work while allowing sensitivity settings in games. It's a very unfortunate fact of how OSX and Open GL work I could easily fix it given the source code to the games, or if I wanted to create a hack for the games, but neither of those things will occur.
This is probably the best that can be done until apple decides to fix it themselves, and it's definitely a fix. You can find the code that handles mouse ballistics in OS X with some sleuthing. It's pretty funny code. Comments like "Not sure how this works, but it seems to make stuff better". Yeah... NeXT carry over garbage
It's actually fairly disgusting really. Every notch on the OS X mouse speed settings has a DIFFERENT ACCELERATION CURVE! Unlike enhance pointer precision in Windows which keeps the same curve but changes the mapping.
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On March 16 2011 10:21 chocopan wrote:
Ok so, no USB overdrive. install mousefixer. Ignore OSX mouse settings. Set SC2 Options mouse to 0%. Set dpi manually with buttons on mouse. ??? profit.
got it. Thanks for the advice!
That's it.
Btw, you're not the artist chocopan are you?
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There's an artist version of me? Nice. No I'm just the regular garden-variety model.
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Thanks dude! I had a Razer DeathAdder plugged into my MacbookPro and the pointer annoyed me but now it's much better
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On March 16 2011 15:45 chocopan wrote:
There's an artist version of me? Nice. No I'm just the regular garden-variety model.
Aw, darn
There's a girl who does dojinshi stuff named chocopan.
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On March 16 2011 14:41 Bumblebees wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 07:46 SolShock wrote:
Hey everyone,
Can anyone confirm if this works for the Razer Abyssus? I just got mine and even with USB overdrive its driving me crazy with the little amount of acceleration that's enough to put someone over the edge.
EDIT: I downloaded and installed the program for use with my Abyssus. It seems as though it ignores any sensitivity I set in any of the games I play (SC2 and TF2, for example.) Is there any way to bypass this while enjoying the benefits of mouse accel elimination that this program offers? You have to adjust sensitivity via DPI settings with your mouse. There should be a toggle on the bottom of your razer abyssus to adjust DPI. Unfortunately, there is no way for mousefixer to work while allowing sensitivity settings in games. It's a very unfortunate fact of how OSX and Open GL work I could easily fix it given the source code to the games, or if I wanted to create a hack for the games, but neither of those things will occur. This is probably the best that can be done until apple decides to fix it themselves, and it's definitely a fix. You can find the code that handles mouse ballistics in OS X with some sleuthing. It's pretty funny code. Comments like "Not sure how this works, but it seems to make stuff better". Yeah... NeXT carry over garbage Gotcha. Good thing 1800 DPI is enough for me to be able to adjust to. So just to clarify, changing the sensitivity settings of anything in game to anything other than 0% will fudge the results? This remains constant in SC2 and TF2 for instance? Thanks. It's actually fairly disgusting really. Every notch on the OS X mouse speed settings has a DIFFERENT ACCELERATION CURVE! Unlike enhance pointer precision in Windows which keeps the same curve but changes the mapping.
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Thanks for the software Bumblebee but it's too much of a change for me. How do I uninstall it on my mac? It says the file can't be deleted because it is in use.
Thanks
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On March 18 2011 09:11 scvtear wrote:Thanks for the software Bumblebee but it's too much of a change for me. How do I uninstall it on my mac? It says the file can't be deleted because it is in use. Thanks
Open activity monitor and kill the mousefixer2 process.
I need to make an uninstaller for this
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so no way yet to actually uninstall?
are people having better luck with the mx518? without mouse fixer, on my macbook, the abyssus moves the mouse pointer by its own freaking self. is that really a mouse acceleration problem? or did i just get a lemon of a mouse?
tia!
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On March 19 2011 04:06 underdawg wrote:
so no way yet to actually uninstall?
are people having better luck with the mx518? without mouse fixer, on my macbook, the abyssus moves the mouse pointer by its own freaking self. is that really a mouse acceleration problem? or did i just get a lemon of a mouse?
tia!
The uninstall directions are included in the readme. It's only 2 very easy steps and a restart. It's fairly rare for someone to have to kill the process first, hence the question above.
The cursor moving on its own is definitely a lens or surface issue. Try to clean your mousing surface or use a different one. If that doesn't work then use a cotton swab with some dawn/joy dish detergent and rinse it off with a clean cotton swab. I know everyone suggest alcohol, but don't. It can interact with some of the plastics used to cover, and around, the optics on certain mice.
I've had a bunch of people report the odd mouse movement. It's because very tiny movements are not picked up when acceleration is on. Slow, small movements are lessened dramatically, and fast, large movements are exaggerated. When there is no acceleration, every movement is reproduced in a 1:1 ratio of what the mouse sends to the computer. If your mouse or mousing surface had a problem before, it was being masked by the OS X acceleration.
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hm ok thanks! maybe i just got a lemon then
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The program works great, however, i'm using a microsoft standard optical mouse. the mouse accelleration is gone, which is just great, but when i open up sc2 the sense just isn't high enough. i downloaded some standard drivers for microsoft mice on osx, but for some reason when i adjust the sense with the driver, it still just reverts back to much slower when i open sc2, any thoughts?
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Just want to say thank you for making this. I've played mostly on my Windows partition, but after fixing mouse issues on Mac OSX, I now only play on my Mac OSX.
Ty ty ty
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I have no luck with my G9x.
Anyone with that mouse was able to get rid of mouse acceleration?
I removed USB Overdrive, restarted, installed MouseFixer, restarted, and then mouse acceleration was all over the place.
(Mouse sensitivity on the G9x was set to the two lower bars on the mouse)
I tried to uninstall per the readme.txt file.
Removed the Application/Mousefixer files but could not find /LaunchAgent/ files.
Could that be an issue where Mousefixer wasn't executing?
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It doesnt't work for me either. Is there any way to see any debug info or the likes?
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On April 07 2011 14:55 faustas wrote:
Could that be an issue where Mousefixer wasn't executing?
That would be it.
I'm quite unsure of why this happens to some people.
I'll update the thread with a way to install manually for those who are having trouble with the installer.
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On April 05 2011 11:48 buchholtz wrote:
The program works great, however, i'm using a microsoft standard optical mouse. the mouse accelleration is gone, which is just great, but when i open up sc2 the sense just isn't high enough. i downloaded some standard drivers for microsoft mice on osx, but for some reason when i adjust the sense with the driver, it still just reverts back to much slower when i open sc2, any thoughts?
Please read the readme. You have to adjust the DPI on the mouse if you want higher sensitivity. If you can't do that, then you need a new mouse.
If you don't want a new mouse, I'm sorry but there's nothing you can do except use USB overdrive, which unfortunately will not have the same feel as in windows or X.
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Ah okay, thanks Bumble. You are the man.
Time for a new mouse, my 518 broke so I'm just using an old Microsoft optical atm :x
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Reporting in with the Razer Abyssus...
Seems there are no drivers available from Razer and 3500 DPI seems too slow.
It's a shame.. because the mouse finally feels normal and responsive for once. Anyone find any work-arounds? I really dont want to go back to overdrive.
In-game settings are still adjustable though... Is this enabling crappy Mac acceleration when i play around with this? A setting of 2% seems to be ok... any higher than that and the mouse gets out of control. Is this just disabling Mousefixer?
Hopefully razer will release some mac support for their mice. :/
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This is the best thing that's happened to the mac - ever. Why there is no option in OS X to disable acceleration is beyond me. Using the mac for gaming or whatever feels so much better now. A huge thank you to Bumblebee!
Also, I'm using a Logitech Performance mouse MX.
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Thanks a lot dude, I could use both Windows and Mac OS and switch between them easily but the mouse acceleration has always been the one thing to piss me off.
Works well with the Logitech G5.
This is probably the best that can be done until apple decides to fix it themselves, and it's definitely a fix. You can find the code that handles mouse ballistics in OS X with some sleuthing. It's pretty funny code. Comments like "Not sure how this works, but it seems to make stuff better". Yeah... NeXT carry over garbage
Really weird considering how much effort Apple spends on making their software as useable as possible. I guess its one of those things that no one really cares about anymore as you get used to it (or if you've only used Macs for your whole life, you might consider Windows' mouse acceleration to be a horrible mess).
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On April 11 2011 11:04 LeBadger wrote:Reporting in with the Razer Abyssus... Seems there are no drivers available from Razer and 3500 DPI seems too slow. It's a shame.. because the mouse finally feels normal and responsive for once. Anyone find any work-arounds? I really dont want to go back to overdrive. In-game settings are still adjustable though... Is this enabling crappy Mac acceleration when i play around with this? A setting of 2% seems to be ok... any higher than that and the mouse gets out of control. Is this just disabling Mousefixer? Hopefully razer will release some mac support for their mice. :/
If 3500dpi is not working, the program is not working correctly. Please make sure all other mouse programs are FULLY uninstalled and that the correct files are in place (see uninstall directions for clues).
3500 dpi should be ridiculously, unusably fast. That would cover the full width of a 1080p screen in half an inch. That means you'd have to move your mouse less than half a millimeter for every 2.5cm (1 inch) of movement on a 30" computer screen.
If you adjust the sensitivity in SC2 above 1%, it is adding acceleration. That is just how OGL works on mac, sorry. The game has to be made for linear acceleration itself to do otherwise, and SC2 is not.
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just wanted to give some feedback.
I am using the mousefixer2 with a razer Orochi on a 15" mbp (6750m version)
The driver and the mousefixer somehow interact with eachother the mouse slows down when entering the driver prefpane. i had it set to maximum of 4k dpi which kinda made it uncontrolable with mousefixer at first.
now i am down to 2250 dpi and just left it that way, so when the system boots the mousefixer starts its work and works fine. you just need to figure out once, what is a good setting for ya.
only question now is, is there any acceleration involved now at all? because if so i would like to tune that down even more and rise the dpi of that mouse instead, to gain more accuracy.
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On April 17 2011 09:11 Drakkart wrote:
just wanted to give some feedback.
I am using the mousefixer2 with a razer Orochi on a 15" mbp (6750m version)
The driver and the mousefixer somehow interact with eachother the mouse slows down when entering the driver prefpane. i had it set to maximum of 4k dpi which kinda made it uncontrolable with mousefixer at first.
now i am down to 2250 dpi and just left it that way, so when the system boots the mousefixer starts its work and works fine. you just need to figure out once, what is a good setting for ya.
only question now is, is there any acceleration involved now at all? because if so i would like to tune that down even more and rise the dpi of that mouse instead, to gain more accuracy.
If mousefixer is working, there is no acceleration except that which maybe present due to your mouse's firmware. The orochi will add a slight accel due to the filtering mechanism it uses. There is _nothing_ you can do about it, and it will be identical in windows.
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tytytytyty I <3 you for this!!!
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I used many things, steermouse, overdrive. maybe the mouse till then was doing the best thing for me.
I tried MouseFixer 2, with DeathAdder Black Edition i am on a hackintosh (everything works fine)
First i have to mention after 1 restart if i open the settings the panel doesnt recognize the Deathadder and i have to unplug/plug it again to the usp port.
Second if u ise 1800 DPI the mouse is really fast and doesnt react as the windows and it woes all the time, no control at all.
I have to use 900 DPI for a promising perfonmance but i am not sure that this thing works.
of course i have unistalled SteerMouse.
Any tips? Should i install drivers for the simple Deathadder and not the black edition?
could you plz provide me a skype contact to work out on this? i have the time to be like a "beta" tester thainks in advance
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I must give a THANK YOU to you for this little Mousefixer. I have a simple Microsoft Comfort Mouse 4500 and I just downloaded MouseFixer and installed it and it is a LOT better. It's not perfect but I will need to do a few adjustments to the DPI of this mouse using Intellipoint for OSX and then keep running MouseFix after each change until I get this mouse 100% comfortable.
Mouse behaviour has been driving me MAD in OSX. I am a long time windows user (since Dos 1.0 days) and switched to OSX about 9 months ago for various reasons. Mouse behaviour has been a big problem and although the OSX community has said "you'll get used to it" ... 9 months and I still cannot adjust and it really affects the way I work and makes me feel like there's something wrong in my brain that I cannot control the mouse. There is just no getting used to a mouse that feels like it is stuck in mud.
The biggest issue for me is the decelleration, ie. as you approach a button the mouse slows down and feels like it is stuck in mud. Many users report this and Apple seems to just ignore it. Their forums are full of complaints about this.
I love OSX but I can say purely on their lack of ways to adjust the mouse, they certainly cannot call themselves the worlds most advanced OS, I mean really, not only can you not adjust settings of the mouse properly using their pref pane, but you cannot even change the pointer or make it bigger ... how stupid is that? Any windows user will know you have been able to do any number of changes to mouse customisation since Windows 3.1 days already but OSX seems stuck in some dark cave when it comes to the mouse.
I can give Microsoft one big head jump over OSX and that is Microsoft's continual R&D into accessibility, into making computers as comfortable as possible. Apple does not seem to hink this is important and spends 90% of their time on making things PRETTY. OSX is way more stable than any windows desktop OS I ever used but Microsoft is ahead on computing friendliness to their customers.
Anyways, enough of my ranting.
Thanks again and I'll keep a watch on any newer versions of this you may release.
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After getting a higher end gaming mouse (the Razer Orochi) I noticed how significant mouse acceleration was. It was hurting my game and I could not play starcraft 2 anymore. After scouring the internet I came across this program and I am relieved to say that it has done wonders for me! It will never feel completely like a PC but it is so much better now. I can play the game with hardly any mouse acceleration and the game is fun for me again!
Something I have taken note of. It has been awhile since I read the "Read me" bit included in the download, but if I am not mistaken it said do not change your settings as the program would discontinue working? Again it has been awhile so I can't verify this. But what I have found out is that I can use the buttons on my mouse to set my sensitivity. The program does not over run this. This has been very nice in getting that perfect DPI set for my liking.
So thank you so much for making this program. I am finally able to play starcraft! It is a nice bonus that the program doesn't happen to over run my mouses quick touch DPI change buttons. It has been handy.
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Hi everyone!
Well, this is my first post on TL and I think I could share my experiences about playing sc2 on a Macbook Pro ... which is ... well ... not really satisfying for me at all.
I am usually playing sc2 on my Windows PC, but sometimes I have to play on my Macbook Pro mid 2010 which can be very annoying due to the default mouse settings in Mac OS X. I think I am not the only one who thinks that the mouse precision under OS X is worse than under Windows.
By default, there is no option for configuring the mouse acceleration in OS X. Sure, there are a lot of third party apps for this out there, but for this week the program "Decelerator" is offered for free in the Mac App Store and I think I can recommend it.
With the "Decelerator" you can configure the mouse acceleration, which actually helps me a lot. For playing sc2 I'll disable the acceleration in the future. It makes me feel that the mouse moves a little bit more accurate in the game.
Hope this helps a few people
Regards
Mani
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Thank you so much.
I'm like DerMani where i usually go PC but when I'm out of town I'll play some rounds on the powerbook. This stupid feature almost made me give up on laddering when on my laptop. The mouse acceleration bs made hitting the minimap and micro maddeningly more difficult than it ever needed to be.
On a side note, why do Mac's have this stupid feature? During the Dark ages of 56k connections was there some good reason for making the precision of the mouse less accurate?
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You have done a great job. Thank you.
but I found an issue. I use Mac OSX (lion) and a Razer Death Adder. So far I have followed your instructions to the letter.
I was surprised at first because you have made the only solution that works, but not at 100 percent.
The acceleration appears to reverse! When I move the cursor slowly moves faster than when I move quickly. It is hardly visible but just as annoying. Maybe that acceleration should not be set to -1 but at 0.00. Am I wrong?
My solution is very basic and not very professional. For the Death Adder I set a macro button to change the profile. In the game I just click on this button and configure the Razer driver takes over.
I prefer to use your program if I had not this problem.
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is the mousefixer already adapted to lion yet? this little program needs to be running before i am considering a switch... damn, 10.7. has not a single feature i am intrested in i am just desperatly looking for the "turn it of" buttons...
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On July 23 2011 08:07 Drakkart wrote:
is the mousefixer already adapted to lion yet? this little program needs to be running before i am considering a switch... damn, 10.7. has not a single feature i am intrested in i am just desperatly looking for the "turn it of" buttons...
It works with lion, I'm using it now.
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On July 19 2011 22:14 derMani wrote:Hi everyone! Well, this is my first post on TL and I think I could share my experiences about playing sc2 on a Macbook Pro ... which is ... well ... not really satisfying for me at all. I am usually playing sc2 on my Windows PC, but sometimes I have to play on my Macbook Pro mid 2010 which can be very annoying due to the default mouse settings in Mac OS X. I think I am not the only one who thinks that the mouse precision under OS X is worse than under Windows. By default, there is no option for configuring the mouse acceleration in OS X. Sure, there are a lot of third party apps for this out there, but for this week the program "Decelerator" is offered for free in the Mac App Store and I think I can recommend it. With the "Decelerator" you can configure the mouse acceleration, which actually helps me a lot. For playing sc2 I'll disable the acceleration in the future. It makes me feel that the mouse moves a little bit more accurate in the game. Hope this helps a few people Regards Mani
Decelerate does not work correctly for gamers for reasons I already discussed, and honestly it's a ripoff of an app since you can do exactly what it does for free yourself.
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You are an absolute genius! It feels so great to be back to regular mouse movement! Its almost weird to not have to cope with random mouse movement anywhere on the screen!
Many thanks!
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THANK YOU.
Long-time reader here, created account just to say thanks.
Also, another tip for those of you running OS X Lion and finding your mouse to be laggy / choppy even when not gaming, I solved my lag issue by turning spotlight off for my network mounted locations (ie my local file server), for my Win 7 bootcamp disk, and for an old non-SSD HDD I had installed (it's a mac pro, with 2 SSD's and two HDDs raid-1).
Your app fixed my gaming issues, where acceleration was a constant problem. THANK YOU!! I used to dual boot *just because of this!!*
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I can't get this to work in Lion. Worked in Snow Leopard. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling. What else can I try?
- Razer Imperator (current firmware and driver)
- SC2 1.3.6.19269
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I'm aware of some folks having lion issues. I'm not sure what could be causing it yet other than a messed up upgrade. I'm looking into it.
It is working for me and many people on lion, so it's a fairly isolated issue.
Also, note the donate in the readme  I've spent easily 15+ hours a week answering people's questions about it and providing free tech support. I donated most of the proceeds until now (about $175) to the Child's Play charity as I was fine on moneys. I'm not so fine anymore. Donations will be used to buy myself a few tools to fix my bed and couch
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Lion users having troubles, if you could install a fresh install of lion on a new partition (you can do this without harming your current install at all), and try mousefixer, that would help me a lot.
That's about the only way I can narrow down this issue.
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I have a fresh install of Lion. In my case, it seems that Mousefixer has made it so that the mouse cursor moves slower when I'm moving fast, and it moves faster when I'm moving slow. It's not a 100% fix, but it is leaps and bounds better than before. Good on ya Bumblebees [you better not be key logging us :-( ]. I used to keep my mouse sensitivity at 1% when playing Starcraft 2. After I installed Lion, it all went to hell. This fix should work for me until I get my new gaming PC. I love my MacBook, just not for gaming :-(
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Did any of you know that SteelSeries ExactMouse tool does exactly the same thing as this app, except it has a UI for you to turn it on and off? http://steelseries.com/support/downloads (all the way at the bottom)
strange thing is that SteelSeries mice don't have mac drivers... you still really need a Razer mouse that has a mac utility/drivers for you to fine tune the sensitivity.
also, I've been using it in Lion with no problems
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On August 05 2011 05:34 HaterTot wrote:Did any of you know that SteelSeries ExactMouse tool does exactly the same thing as this app, except it has a UI for you to turn it on and off? http://steelseries.com/support/downloads (all the way at the bottom) strange thing is that SteelSeries mice don't have mac drivers... you still really need a Razer mouse that has a mac utility/drivers for you to fine tune the sensitivity. also, I've been using it in Lion with no problems
It doesn't do the exact same thing, sorry.
It is close, but mouse fixer is both more efficient and reacts much quicker to interference from certain softwares.
Use whichever you like, doesn't bother me. I do know how my software works, and I also know how exactmouse works... and I know mine is better
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A lion test fix will be coming soon.
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Mousefixer is working for me in Lion, but when SC2 starts it seems to take over and the sensitivity changes drastically.
Temporary workaround: Since I have mousefixer working in the OS, but not SC2, I unplug the mouse after SC2 starts and after I plug it back in it looks like the OS takes back over and all is well.
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The tool is great, but is there any chance to adjust the mouse sens in the OS with a logitech mouse?
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If this works properly you are my fucking hero! My mouse basically has a will of its own most of the time.
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thanks! works great. no problems in lion here.
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Since I installed your Tool, my mouse Cursor disappear in game from time to time. Any clue about this behavior?
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On August 09 2011 04:43 jaNusHK wrote:
Since I installed your Tool, my mouse Cursor disappear in game from time to time. Any clue about this behavior?
That sounds like a familiar problem with the razer mouse drivers. Are you using a razer mouse?
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On August 06 2011 06:16 jaNusHK wrote:
The tool is great, but is there any chance to adjust the mouse sens in the OS with a logitech mouse?
Please read the readme, or the thread.
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I find the razer abyssus has no issues with mouse woes or dpi. I did not install any drivers, just used the hardware switches. FTW! A lot better than my Orochi which would change everytime I would open up the sys pref pane for the drivers and have to reboot to get it back. The abyssus "just works" right out the box at said dpi. Only thing is it needs to be at 125hz so it doesn't get weird lag.
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On August 13 2011 02:32 Bumblebees wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2011 06:16 jaNusHK wrote:
The tool is great, but is there any chance to adjust the mouse sens in the OS with a logitech mouse? Please read the readme, or the thread.
I know, but would be great to change anyways. Anyways: great tool!
On August 13 2011 02:32 Bumblebees wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2011 04:43 jaNusHK wrote:
Since I installed your Tool, my mouse Cursor disappear in game from time to time. Any clue about this behavior? That sounds like a familiar problem with the razer mouse drivers. Are you using a razer mouse?
No, its a Logitech M510 with standard Logitech drivers. Any thoughts about this?
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On August 14 2011 03:36 jaNusHK wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2011 02:32 Bumblebees wrote:On August 09 2011 04:43 jaNusHK wrote:
Since I installed your Tool, my mouse Cursor disappear in game from time to time. Any clue about this behavior? That sounds like a familiar problem with the razer mouse drivers. Are you using a razer mouse? No, its a Logitech M510 with standard Logitech drivers. Any thoughts about this?
That is very strange :|
I've heard of it happening with razer mice, and had it happen to me as well.
If you don't use the middle mouse for screen scrolling, change that hotkey (camera drag) in your SC2 preferences. That may fix it. The razer issues seems to be with the middle mouse 'sticking' sometimes, which causes the cursor to go away.
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And update on a Lion fix?
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On August 16 2011 02:45 Bumblebees wrote:
That is very strange :|
I've heard of it happening with razer mice, and had it happen to me as well.
If you don't use the middle mouse for screen scrolling, change that hotkey (camera drag) in your SC2 preferences. That may fix it. The razer issues seems to be with the middle mouse 'sticking' sometimes, which causes the cursor to go away.
Hmm no That doesn't solve anything for me
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On August 17 2011 02:25 seannyELITE wrote:
And update on a Lion fix?
None. No one has told me how to replicate the problem. I just keep getting messages of "OMG It's not working, fix it please". I thought I had a clue of what it may be, but despite trying a number of things mousefixer still works fine in Lion for me, and for a couple testers I've had try and make it break.
Considering no one has donated in months and it works for most people in lion (and nearly everyone in SL), I'm not putting any more effort into fixing a phantom problem.
Sorry. If someone can tell me what is wrong, besides "It's not working", then I will look into it again.
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On August 18 2011 23:26 jaNusHK wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 02:45 Bumblebees wrote:
That is very strange :|
I've heard of it happening with razer mice, and had it happen to me as well.
If you don't use the middle mouse for screen scrolling, change that hotkey (camera drag) in your SC2 preferences. That may fix it. The razer issues seems to be with the middle mouse 'sticking' sometimes, which causes the cursor to go away. Hmm no That doesn't solve anything for me
If you can try and track down when the cursor is disappearing, that would be helpful. Just watch carefully and record the last thing you did when it happens.
The only things I know of that make the cursor disappear are camera dragging, windowed fullscreen and dual monitors.
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On August 19 2011 23:12 Bumblebees wrote:None. No one has told me how to replicate the problem. I just keep getting messages of "OMG It's not working, fix it please". I thought I had a clue of what it may be, but despite trying a number of things mousefixer still works fine in Lion for me, and for a couple testers I've had try and make it break. Considering no one has donated in months and it works for most people in lion (and nearly everyone in SL), I'm not putting any more effort into fixing a phantom problem. Sorry. If someone can tell me what is wrong, besides "It's not working", then I will look into it again.
I'm used to steermouse now so I don't really want to change my config but tested the mousefixer as I have Lion (and love bumblebees <3 good work man). I worked flawlessly both with or without steermouse on my new Lion OS.
Maybe another mouse fixing software may come in the way ? (usb overdrive used to do weird things for me hence my swich to steermouse, could be solme conflict)
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Could we get the source code? Github would be excellent.
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Hey Bumblebee, if I'm using 5001 dpi and my cursor is at an average speed is it safe to assume the fix didn't work?
Im using leopard 10.5.8 and a SS Xai. Untill now i've been dealing with accel by running this terminal command everytime at start up
"defaults write .GlobalPreferences com.apple.mouse.scaling -1"
Though this helped it made the pointer speed very slow.
Just to clarify I downloaded the mediafire zip > extracted > ran the pkg > went to apps and ran the mousefix file in the folder it was created which launched a terminal process and ended with "proccess complete" > restarted
But it feels exactly the same as how it always does, and it surely can't be 1:1 at 5001 dpi because that would be absurdly fast.
Did I do something wrong or is it working and I can't tell ?_? please help
EDIT: I noticed in one of your posts your wrote about the MouseFixer2 process in activity monitor, I can't find any process like that in my activity monitor =(
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This works perfectly! thank you so much!... i havent used windows for ages so i didnt even realise what was happening.. but i thought ild try it out and have noticed a huge improvement.
(running i7 13"mbp 10.6.7)
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On August 21 2011 00:29 pathaN wrote:
Hey Bumblebee, if I'm using 5001 dpi and my cursor is at an average speed is it safe to assume the fix didn't work?
Im using leopard 10.5.8 and a SS Xai. Untill now i've been dealing with accel by running this terminal command everytime at start up
"defaults write .GlobalPreferences com.apple.mouse.scaling -1"
Though this helped it made the pointer speed very slow.
Just to clarify I downloaded the mediafire zip > extracted > ran the pkg > went to apps and ran the mousefix file in the folder it was created which launched a terminal process and ended with "proccess complete" > restarted
But it feels exactly the same as how it always does, and it surely can't be 1:1 at 5001 dpi because that would be absurdly fast.
Did I do something wrong or is it working and I can't tell ?_? please help
EDIT: I noticed in one of your posts your wrote about the MouseFixer2 process in activity monitor, I can't find any process like that in my activity monitor =(
Do you have more than 1 user account on that computer?
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No I don't, just one account. I could link screenshots of my activity monitor as well if you like.
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On August 22 2011 03:41 pathaN wrote:
No I don't, just one account. I could link screenshots of my activity monitor as well if you like.
No need.
Is Mousefixers/MouseFixer2 in your /Applications directory? If so, just add it to your login items (System Preferences->Accounts->Login Items)
Do you have com.bumblebee.mousefixer.plist in /Library/LaunchAgents?
If you have neither, the install failed. If you're missing the plist then I'd really love to know what's causing that It's happening somewhat randomly. If you have the plist and it's not loading then... well, I'd need to do some research. I haven't encountered that one yet.
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It is in my /Applications but it wasn't in my login items so I added that in and it do have com.bumblebee.mousefixer.plist in /Library/LaunchAgents but it still doesn't seem to be working.
I just realised com.bumblebee.mousefixer.plist is present in /Library/LaunchAgents but it is not present in /Users/Tayyab/Library/LaunchAgents
(Tayyab is my account name)
Could this possibly be the problem and if so what can I do? copy paste the plist maybe?
EDIT: This is the terminal output I get at start up now, perhaps it may tell you something
+ Show Spoiler +
Last login: Mon Aug 22 03:35:32 on console
/Applications/MouseFixers/MouseFixer2 ; exit;
Pathans-MBP-7:~ Tayyab$ /Applications/MouseFixers/MouseFixer2 ; exit;
dyld: unknown required load command 0x80000022
Trace/BPT trap
logout
[Process completed]
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On August 22 2011 08:43 pathaN wrote:It is in my /Applications but it wasn't in my login items so I added that in and it do have com.bumblebee.mousefixer.plist in /Library/LaunchAgents but it still doesn't seem to be working. I just realised com.bumblebee.mousefixer.plist is present in /Library/LaunchAgents but it is not present in /Users/Tayyab/Library/LaunchAgents (Tayyab is my account name) Could this possibly be the problem and if so what can I do? copy paste the plist maybe? EDIT: This is the terminal output I get at start up now, perhaps it may tell you something + Show Spoiler +
Last login: Mon Aug 22 03:35:32 on console
/Applications/MouseFixers/MouseFixer2 ; exit;
Pathans-MBP-7:~ Tayyab$ /Applications/MouseFixers/MouseFixer2 ; exit;
dyld: unknown required load command 0x80000022
Trace/BPT trap
logout
[Process completed]
Are you on Tiger, or a non-recent version or snow leopard?
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No, I'm on Leopard 10.5.8, is it not compatible or something?
EDIT: Sorry for the trouble bumble, I've been looking for an accel fix for months now, really want to get this to work. Im available for team viewer as well if you want to take a look for yourself.
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interesting! i should try it
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Hi i can't seem to get through to the download page. Is it not working anymore?
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On August 23 2011 22:59 Olecranon wrote:
Hi i can't seem to get through to the download page. Is it not working anymore?
Seems to be working fine for me. What does it tell you when you click the link?
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On August 19 2011 23:15 Bumblebees wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2011 23:26 jaNusHK wrote:On August 16 2011 02:45 Bumblebees wrote:
That is very strange :|
I've heard of it happening with razer mice, and had it happen to me as well.
If you don't use the middle mouse for screen scrolling, change that hotkey (camera drag) in your SC2 preferences. That may fix it. The razer issues seems to be with the middle mouse 'sticking' sometimes, which causes the cursor to go away. Hmm no That doesn't solve anything for me If you can try and track down when the cursor is disappearing, that would be helpful. Just watch carefully and record the last thing you did when it happens. The only things I know of that make the cursor disappear are camera dragging, windowed fullscreen and dual monitors.
until now i cant see any pattern here.
But its true, i use an external monitor at my MacBook Air. And also SC2 in Fullscreen-Mode.
Do you know why it happens with an external monitor?
Let me know how i can donate something (via paypal?) for your great work
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On August 22 2011 23:11 pathaN wrote:
No, I'm on Leopard 10.5.8, is it not compatible or something?
EDIT: Sorry for the trouble bumble, I've been looking for an accel fix for months now, really want to get this to work. Im available for team viewer as well if you want to take a look for yourself.
It does not work on leopard, sorry. 10.6+ only.
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On August 25 2011 22:54 jaNusHK wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 23:15 Bumblebees wrote:On August 18 2011 23:26 jaNusHK wrote:On August 16 2011 02:45 Bumblebees wrote:
That is very strange :|
I've heard of it happening with razer mice, and had it happen to me as well.
If you don't use the middle mouse for screen scrolling, change that hotkey (camera drag) in your SC2 preferences. That may fix it. The razer issues seems to be with the middle mouse 'sticking' sometimes, which causes the cursor to go away. Hmm no That doesn't solve anything for me If you can try and track down when the cursor is disappearing, that would be helpful. Just watch carefully and record the last thing you did when it happens. The only things I know of that make the cursor disappear are camera dragging, windowed fullscreen and dual monitors. until now i cant see any pattern here. But its true, i use an external monitor at my MacBook Air. And also SC2 in Fullscreen-Mode. Do you know why it happens with an external monitor? Let me know how i can donate something (via paypal?) for your great work
With dual monitors, sometimes The mouse gets thrown to the wrong screen due to the way SC2 handles screen scrolling. This is much less likely to occur with mouse acceleration due to the way the input is filtered before SC2 gets to respond to the movement. When it is not on, quick movements cause your cursor to skip a number of pixels between movements. This can cause the cursor to exit SC2 and onto another monitor. There are reports of this happening to a number of people if you look around.
I've had this happen to myself a number of times, and there's really no solution other than turning the monitor off when playing
I've checked and it does not appear to happen in Windows, or if I run sc2 in virtualbox. I think it's only an OS X dual screen bug.
It is possible that it could still be yet something else, but _every_ cursor disappearing bug I've had reported so far has been due to sc2 camera movement in one way or another. Either edge scrolling sending it to another monitor, or middle-mouse button getting stuck physically or in software.
My paypal email is listed in the readme that comes with the installer. Thank you!
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I've updated the OP with a breakdown of what I've done/doing with donations received.
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This is amazing. I love you.
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I updated to snow leopard for this and IT WAS WORTH IT!
I'll donate for sure when I get a damn job T___T
EDIT:
You're into audio stuff?
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On August 28 2011 12:08 pathaN wrote:
I updated to snow leopard for this and IT WAS WORTH IT!
I'll donate for sure when I get a damn job T___T
Fantastic! Glad it worked
EDIT: You're into audio stuff?
Yes, quite a bit so.
New version of mousefixer coming soon... I think. :D
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:0 small world.
Tell me a bit about what do/like i.e. electronic music production or more on the recording side of thing etc. Doing audio formally or as a hobby?
Like I said i'm broke right now but maybe I could send you notes on your area of interest from my college course or something like that.
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On August 29 2011 01:44 pathaN wrote:
:0 small world.
Tell me a bit about what do/like i.e. electronic music production or more on the recording side of thing etc. Doing audio formally or as a hobby?
Like I said i'm broke right now but maybe I could send you notes on your area of interest from my college course or something like that.
I do both. Music and audio engineering have been my main passion, education and source of income for nearly my entire life except for about about 2 years and recently. I do not wish to discuss it further here however.
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:X my bad, sounds like you could teach me a thing or two xD
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Damn, this has been the bane of my existence for a while, tried so many different applications, but apparently I need 10.6 or above?
Guess I'll have to update then huh? 
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On August 29 2011 14:08 Ubertron wrote:Damn, this has been the bane of my existence for a while, tried so many different applications, but apparently I need 10.6 or above? Guess I'll have to update then huh?
I'll see about making it 10.5 compatible in the next update. I was not aware people still used 10.5 haha.
Don't count on it, but I'm looking into it.
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On August 26 2011 05:07 Bumblebees wrote:With dual monitors, sometimes The mouse gets thrown to the wrong screen due to the way SC2 handles screen scrolling. This is much less likely to occur with mouse acceleration due to the way the input is filtered before SC2 gets to respond to the movement. When it is not on, quick movements cause your cursor to skip a number of pixels between movements. This can cause the cursor to exit SC2 and onto another monitor. There are reports of this happening to a number of people if you look around. I've had this happen to myself a number of times, and there's really no solution other than turning the monitor off when playing I've checked and it does not appear to happen in Windows, or if I run sc2 in virtualbox. I think it's only an OS X dual screen bug. It is possible that it could still be yet something else, but _every_ cursor disappearing bug I've had reported so far has been due to sc2 camera movement in one way or another. Either edge scrolling sending it to another monitor, or middle-mouse button getting stuck physically or in software. My paypal email is listed in the readme that comes with the installer. Thank you!
Thnaks for your explanation.
Yes Windows was no problem at all.
I will try do disable the MBA display, to only use the external display. Maybe that solve the problem.
Is there any way to speed up the mouse speed a bit with a logitech mouse
mouseFixer? I need it just a little bit faster
PS: Have a look at your paypal acc. Grab a beer or two
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i'm using 10.6.8 and a cheap crappy logitech mouse, it changed how the mouse moves, I don't know or it will help or not, hope i get used to it,
thank a lot for making it
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On August 30 2011 02:30 jaNusHK wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2011 05:07 Bumblebees wrote:With dual monitors, sometimes The mouse gets thrown to the wrong screen due to the way SC2 handles screen scrolling. This is much less likely to occur with mouse acceleration due to the way the input is filtered before SC2 gets to respond to the movement. When it is not on, quick movements cause your cursor to skip a number of pixels between movements. This can cause the cursor to exit SC2 and onto another monitor. There are reports of this happening to a number of people if you look around. I've had this happen to myself a number of times, and there's really no solution other than turning the monitor off when playing I've checked and it does not appear to happen in Windows, or if I run sc2 in virtualbox. I think it's only an OS X dual screen bug. It is possible that it could still be yet something else, but _every_ cursor disappearing bug I've had reported so far has been due to sc2 camera movement in one way or another. Either edge scrolling sending it to another monitor, or middle-mouse button getting stuck physically or in software. My paypal email is listed in the readme that comes with the installer. Thank you! Thnaks for your explanation. Yes Windows was no problem at all. I will try do disable the MBA display, to only use the external display. Maybe that solve the problem. Is there any way to speed up the mouse speed a bit with a logitech mouse mouseFixer? I need it just a little bit faster PS: Have a look at your paypal acc. Grab a beer or two
No way to speed it up with mousefixer yet, sorry. This is very complicated to do and requires writing multiple mouse ballistics routines (glut, some slop in quartz and CG at the very least). I am looking into it on and off, but my initial research was not very encouraging.
Thank you
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Hi, I am having an issue with mouse fixer.
Basically, the mouse speed is not consistent between Starcraft 2 and mac OS. I have played around with it for the last few days, but have had no success in fixing the issue.
I have the SC2 speed set to 1% (it doesn't go any lower).
I am using Mac OS X 10.6.8 and a Razer Imperator, with the Driver panel installed.
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Is there a particular reason as to why 10.6 is the cut-off for OS usability for this program?
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I just started using the mouse fixer in my systems last week.
I have a MacBook pro, and a iMac, both running Lion.
And 2 Razer DeathAdder 3500dpi mouses.
I am really impressed and happy with the solution. All props to you Bumblebees.
One note though, i had been so used to he acceleration, that i played way worse for a few days but it think it really pays of in the long run.
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On August 30 2011 07:09 Flexx wrote:
Hi, I am having an issue with mouse fixer.
Basically, the mouse speed is not consistent between Starcraft 2 and mac OS. I have played around with it for the last few days, but have had no success in fixing the issue.
I have the SC2 speed set to 1% (it doesn't go any lower).
I am using Mac OS X 10.6.8 and a Razer Imperator, with the Driver panel installed.
I sent you a PM telling you to turn the SC2 down to 1%, oops. I hadn't seen your post yet.
Make sure the razer driver panel has accel off, and that any other mouse programs are completely gone. Check /Applications /Library/Application Support /System/Library/Extensions and also in ~.
If it's still happening, make sure mousefixer2 is running. Open activity monitor and look for the mousefixer2 process.
Also, you need to make sure that the screen resolution of sc2 is the same as your desktop. Your mouse sensitivity will differ on different resolutions (it is called dots-per-inch for a reason!).
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On August 30 2011 16:35 GaussWaffle wrote:
Is there a particular reason as to why 10.6 is the cut-off for OS usability for this program?
It was compiled with target platform 10.6+. I think I have it working for 10.5+ now, I'm still working on some other things before I release the next version.
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On August 31 2011 00:26 Bumblebees wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2011 16:35 GaussWaffle wrote:
Is there a particular reason as to why 10.6 is the cut-off for OS usability for this program?
It was compiled with target platform 10.6+. I think I have it working for 10.5+ now, I'm still working on some other things before I release the next version.
That is encouraging to hear. I unfortunately am running 10.5.x still and am not in a position to up it just yet
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[/QUOTE]I'll see about making it 10.5 compatible in the next update. I was not aware people still used 10.5 haha.
Don't count on it, but I'm looking into it.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure about other people but I stuck to 10.5 because when 10.6 came out I bought it, upgraded, and was horrified to find that snow leopard had terrible memory leak issues which made any of my games unplayable after 5-6 minutes of gameplay. Downgraded immediately and adopted the philosophy of "if it anit broke don't fix it".
I think quite a few gamers might do the same seeing as most people in my community still run XP.
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I have a gui version with 10.5-10.7 compatibility in the works.
I'm pretty horrible with Cocoa currently, so progress is limited by the interaction of my desire for things to work correct and look amazing, and my complete lack of knowledge in this area.
I also decided to rewrite it in sbcl till I realized how horrible it is to do Mac ui's in lisp. Heh, It was a fun exercise though. I almost know how to use glut in lisp now! hahaha
I'm also writing a large sequel to my low apm guide made for people of all skill levels. I'm hopping back and forth between the projects actively
It'll get there soonish.
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I had a question regarding what constitutes a mouse allowing "sensitivity/dpi(model specific) changes". Perhaps someone using a logitech might be able to answer as well. I have a relatively cheap logitech mouse (M110), when I configure it via logitechs "control center thing" it only has something listed as "Tracking Speed Multiplier". So far the mousefixer program hasn't worked for me....Im not sure if the acceleration curve is the same as before but it definitely doesn't feel like it does in windows. So I was wondering if this mouse just doesn't have the required modifiable ability for the program to work.
Thanks.
Edit: In case this makes a difference...I dont think the fix is working even before i change the sensitivity in the fashion mentioned above.
Edit 2: I realized that there is also no process listed for mousefixer before or after the restart. Should this be the case (does the process not continue running if a compatible mouse isnt found).
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On September 01 2011 10:22 sheaRZerg wrote:
I had a question regarding what constitutes a mouse allowing "sensitivity/dpi(model specific) changes". Perhaps someone using a logitech might be able to answer as well. I have a relatively cheap logitech mouse (M110), when I configure it via logitechs "control center thing" it only has something listed as "Tracking Speed Multiplier". So far the mousefixer program hasn't worked for me....Im not sure if the acceleration curve is the same as before but it definitely doesn't feel like it does in windows. So I was wondering if this mouse just doesn't have the required modifiable ability for the program to work.
Thanks.
Edit: In case this makes a difference...I dont think the fix is working even before i change the sensitivity in the fashion mentioned above.
Edit 2: I realized that there is also no process listed for mousefixer before or after the restart. Should this be the case (does the process not continue running if a compatible mouse isnt found).
You can not use third party mouse utilities with Mousefixer. LCC is not a driver in the traditional sense. You need to uninstall it and remove it completely for mousefixer to work.
Tracking speed multiplier is nothing more than multiplying the built-in mouse ballistics of OS X.
Mousefixer2 should be in your list of processes. Check /Library/LaunchAgents for com.bumblebees.mousefixer.plist. If it's not there, then try adding it to your startup items (system preferemces->accounts->login items) with it set to hide.
If that works then I suggest living with that for now. I'm working on getting a proper UI version out soon.
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On September 02 2011 02:53 Bumblebees wrote:
You can not use third party mouse utilities with Mousefixer. LCC is not a driver in the traditional sense. You need to uninstall it and remove it completely for mousefixer to work.
Tracking speed multiplier is nothing more than multiplying the built-in mouse ballistics of OS X.
Mousefixer2 should be in your list of processes. Check /Library/LaunchAgents for com.bumblebees.mousefixer.plist. If it's not there, then try adding it to your startup items (system preferemces->accounts->login items) with it set to hide.
If that works then I suggest living with that for now. I'm working on getting a proper UI version out soon.
I uninstalled lcc. /Library/LaunchAgents/com.bumblebees.mousefixer.plist is there. However I still see no Mousefixer2 process upon restarting.
When I add it to startup items...it opens it up in property list editor.
Is there another interference I should be looking for?..as far as i know there is no other mouse related software on the computer.
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I had a bunch of issues that some of you have outlined and had typed out all the steps I took, but I was able to resolve them myself. I'll mention what I tried.
Check your applications folder. Make sure the mousefixers folder is unlocked and you have full access to it. If you do not, just unlock it and give everyone read/write access.
Mine was locked -- once I gave everyone access I reinstalled the program. Shortly thereafter, the mousefixer2 process was running upon each startup. Previously it would not -- and I did try adding the plist file to the login items and it made no difference.
Thanks for your work on this.
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On September 02 2011 05:02 sheaRZerg wrote:
Is there another interference I should be looking for?..as far as i know there is no other mouse related software on the computer.
Sorry if this is a stupid question but are you running 10.5.8 leopard by any chance? I had the same problem and didn't realize it only works with snow leopard and upwards.
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On September 02 2011 08:33 pathaN wrote:
Sorry if this is a stupid question but are you running 10.5.8 leopard by any chance? I had the same problem and didn't realize it only works with snow leopard and upwards.
No. 10.6.8.
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On September 02 2011 05:43 spiz wrote:
I had a bunch of issues that some of you have outlined and had typed out all the steps I took, but I was able to resolve them myself. I'll mention what I tried.
Check your applications folder. Make sure the mousefixers folder is unlocked and you have full access to it. If you do not, just unlock it and give everyone read/write access.
Mine was locked -- once I gave everyone access I reinstalled the program. Shortly thereafter, the mousefixer2 process was running upon each startup. Previously it would not -- and I did try adding the plist file to the login items and it made no difference.
Thanks for your work on this.
What do you know....that was it. The program seems to be running now...
One last question. Does changing the sensitivity in game (SC2) interfere with Mousefixer? (i.e. does SC2 just tell the OS to change the tracking speed in the normal way?)At the moment it would leave me somewhat limited, but if I get lucky with one of my mice just happening to be a decent sensitivity it might be fine.
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On September 02 2011 14:32 sheaRZerg wrote:
One last question. Does changing the sensitivity in game (SC2) interfere with Mousefixer? (i.e. does SC2 just tell the OS to change the tracking speed in the normal way?)At the moment it would leave me somewhat limited, but if I get lucky with one of my mice just happening to be a decent sensitivity it might be fine.
Good deal.
I did not seem to notice any change in sensitivity using the in game sc2 adjustments. I believe it was mentioned somewhere that it doesn't have any effect once the fix is installed. I believe you'd need to make DPI adjustments from this point -- or before installing it -- if able.
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I installed your program on my 24' imac, and it works great in SC2 using my Razer Deathadder! Unfortunately, every time I reset my computer (since I installed the Deathadder software) it sets the system tracking speed to slowest.
I have my Deathadder sensitivity set as high as it will go and 1800 dpi, but it is still not sensitive enough outside of SC2. When I use SC2, it becomes ridiculously more sensitive (I had to adjust it down to 3% in game).
Is there ANY way to make it more sensitive outside of SC2? The DA software just isn't giving me enough juice to get across this big screen! Is there a way to adjust system preferences AND use your software?
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On September 03 2011 00:15 Downbeat wrote:
I installed your program on my 24' imac, and it works great in SC2 using my Razer Deathadder! Unfortunately, every time I reset my computer (since I installed the Deathadder software) it sets the system tracking speed to slowest.
I have my Deathadder sensitivity set as high as it will go and 1800 dpi, but it is still not sensitive enough outside of SC2. When I use SC2, it becomes ridiculously more sensitive (I had to adjust it down to 3% in game).
Is there ANY way to make it more sensitive outside of SC2? The DA software just isn't giving me enough juice to get across this big screen! Is there a way to adjust system preferences AND use your software?
Please set your in game speed to %1.
If you deathadder goes above 1800dpi (most are 3500 aren't they?) Set it to that, and use the sensitivity in the driver panel. If your mouse is maxed dpi and it's still too slow, buy a new mouse.
I strongly suggest reading the thread, and the readme included with the program.
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is it just me or is the link down?
would very much appreciate a reupload or something
thanks
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On September 03 2011 20:31 nibbles wrote:is it just me or is the link down? would very much appreciate a reupload or something thanks Mediafire link is working fine.
awesome tool btw
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This is awesome thank you very much, the mac mouse sensitivty was so weird and always put me off! I mostly play on a PC but I have a MacBook Pro that I take to friends place if can't be bothered taking my PC, this will help me very much. Cheers
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On September 03 2011 12:12 Bumblebees wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2011 00:15 Downbeat wrote:
I installed your program on my 24' imac, and it works great in SC2 using my Razer Deathadder! Unfortunately, every time I reset my computer (since I installed the Deathadder software) it sets the system tracking speed to slowest.
I have my Deathadder sensitivity set as high as it will go and 1800 dpi, but it is still not sensitive enough outside of SC2. When I use SC2, it becomes ridiculously more sensitive (I had to adjust it down to 3% in game).
Is there ANY way to make it more sensitive outside of SC2? The DA software just isn't giving me enough juice to get across this big screen! Is there a way to adjust system preferences AND use your software? Please set your in game speed to %1. If you deathadder goes above 1800dpi (most are 3500 aren't they?) Set it to that, and use the sensitivity in the driver panel. If your mouse is maxed dpi and it's still too slow, buy a new mouse. I strongly suggest reading the thread, and the readme included with the program.
The older DA only goes to 1800. I found a solution though. If you install version 2.02 of the DA, it will not reset your Mac system preferences sensitivity to 0 upon reset (newer versions do). So I just adjusted my system preferences and re-ran your fixer.
Thanks for your help on this, you rule bro - This fix has definitely uped my micro game 100%.
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Bumbles, have you tested this for steelseries products yet? your readme still says Razer only
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On September 05 2011 08:36 GaussWaffle wrote:
Bumbles, have you tested this for steelseries products yet? your readme still says Razer only
Yes. It works quite well with steel series products. I've personally tried the kinzu and xai. The kinzu has hardware level acceleration, so at best you'll get the same response as windows.
I'd also like to note that the readme says, "For now I have only tested with Razer devices." That simply means all I tested was Razer devices, not that only Razer devices work.
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On September 05 2011 08:36 GaussWaffle wrote:
Bumbles, have you tested this for steelseries products yet? your readme still says Razer only
Using it with a Xai, no complaints, works well ^.^
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Hi guys im using this on DeathAdder Mac version at 1800dpi and 500hz polling rate.
As i've read on other posts, i tried to set polling at 125hz, but the tracking problem persists also after new mousepad and mouse cleaning. Could u plz tell me, to mantain the windows feeling in order to conservate the proportion with in game sensitivity configs, which sensitivity is good with a 500 hz setting?
However i've notice that at low speed, the mouse is not as linear as at high. Some suggestions? Is it a polling rate set thing?
If some quakers read this plz write me down your experience to let me know how u did
However thanks for the job. Next work i get i send u some bucks
dmz
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Hoping this removes the accursed mouse acceleration in 10.5.8. It's been preventing me from using a mouse in OSX. Does this work for Logitech mice as well?
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On September 06 2011 23:24 buhhy wrote:
Hoping this removes the accursed mouse acceleration in 10.5.8. It's been preventing me from using a mouse in OSX. Does this work for Logitech mice as well?
In my experience it does get youthe windows feel.
Yeah it should though I read in this thread that you would need to uninstall your LCC (logitech Command Center).
On September 06 2011 19:46 Damz Beat wrote:As i've read on other posts, i tried to set polling at 125hz, but the tracking problem persists also after new mousepad and mouse cleaning. Could u plz tell me, to mantain the windows feeling in order to conservate the proportion with in game sensitivity configs, which sensitivity is good with a 500 hz setting? However i've notice that at low speed, the mouse is not as linear as at high. Some suggestions? Is it a polling rate set thing? If some quakers read this plz write me down your experience to let me know how u did However thanks for the job. Next work i get i send u some bucks dmz
You did not mention if you've tried this mouse fix here or if you having problems with it. Please specify.
I've also read in several places that 125Hz is the way to go on mac so I would keep it that. Mind you your polling rate doesn't affect your sensitivity or acceleration and there is no necessary dpi-to-polling rate ratio you need to worry about.
I agree with you I've noticed much more acceleration with low sensitivity than high, I think its just more obvious when you're playing with low; since you will tend to swipe faster than if you were using high and moving the mouse slightly to make as large a turn (more the difference in the speed of your swiping, the more obvious the acceleration becomes).
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This looks great, can't wait for the GUI version!
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Oh my, I love you man, you just saved me alot of troubble, Ive been trying very hard to get the acceleration fixed on my MacBook. +100 rep for you <3
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this works but my mouse is too slow. I just use a generic USB mouse. Is there any way to speed up my sensitivity?
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Hi, i found this thread through googling, and i would love to use your tool to play sc2 on my mac. im using a razer copperhead mouse with no special drivers, but with this tool to fix the mouse acceleration (outside of games):
http://osxdaily.com/2010/06/02/kill-os-x-mouse-acceleration-from-the-command-line/
as known, mouse acceleration will reset once i start sc2. i downloaded your tool and installed it, but nothing changed. i also dont see any special prefpane in the preferences. am i doing something wrong, or is my mouse not supported?
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On September 23 2011 04:53 s710 wrote:Hi, i found this thread through googling, and i would love to use your tool to play sc2 on my mac. im using a razer copperhead mouse with no special drivers, but with this tool to fix the mouse acceleration (outside of games): http://osxdaily.com/2010/06/02/kill-os-x-mouse-acceleration-from-the-command-line/as known, mouse acceleration will reset once i start sc2. i downloaded your tool and installed it, but nothing changed. i also dont see any special prefpane in the preferences. am i doing something wrong, or is my mouse not supported?
Are you using leopard? Since it's only compatible with 10.6+ (snow leopard and up) that might be the problem.
If you are using 10.6+ then check if you have /Library/LaunchAgents/com.bumblebees.mousefixer.plist
You should also check if the process is running by looking for "Mousefixer2" in your Activity Monitor.
If either one of the two things is missing then I would assume it's an installation problem. If both things are present then Im not sure what it could be, do let us know if thats the case maybe something can be figured out.
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Does this work in OSX Lion?
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Thanks bumblebees!
I’m currently using a junky old microsoft mouse on OS X 10.7—and the acceleration was infuriating me. After I set the mouse to max sensitivity, installed your app, and restarted, the mouse is linear, but it's deathly slow and I have no way of changing it’s speed without using the system preferences, which of course kills the linear settings.
However… if I uninstall the application and restart, then I have linear motion and fast mouse speed again, until I restart again and it’s gone. Do you know why this might be? It’s wonderful when it's linear and fast.
Maybe I should just buy a better mouse, so I can adjust it's settings in the mouse drivers…
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Hey, I've experienced problems after updating with patch 1.4. The mouse seems to stick to certain points, so mouse movement is extremely erratic and jittery. It works fine on the login screen, though once logged in the mouse movement just goes haywire.
I'm running OS X 10.6.8, with a steelseries kinzu.
Any ideas on what i might be doing wrong? :/
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On September 24 2011 19:59 ElegantBoar wrote:
Hey, I've experienced problems after updating with patch 1.4. The mouse seems to stick to certain points, so mouse movement is extremely erratic and jittery. It works fine on the login screen, though once logged in the mouse movement just goes haywire.
I'm running OS X 10.6.8, with a steelseries kinzu.
Any ideas on what i might be doing wrong? :/
It's a well documented issue in 1.4. It is occurring on OS X and Windows.
There are plenty of threads about it on the battle.net forums.
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On September 23 2011 14:52 tubs wrote:
Does this work in OSX Lion?
Yes.
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On September 24 2011 00:33 i-am-lethys wrote:
Thanks bumblebees!
I’m currently using a junky old microsoft mouse on OS X 10.7—and the acceleration was infuriating me. After I set the mouse to max sensitivity, installed your app, and restarted, the mouse is linear, but it's deathly slow and I have no way of changing it’s speed without using the system preferences, which of course kills the linear settings.
However… if I uninstall the application and restart, then I have linear motion and fast mouse speed again, until I restart again and it’s gone. Do you know why this might be? It’s wonderful when it's linear and fast.
Maybe I should just buy a better mouse, so I can adjust it's settings in the mouse drivers…
It's because you don't have linear motion when you restart. Your brain is tricking you. I've had a few people say this and every time it's turned out that they simply were victims of change bias, The mouse was non-linear but a different sensitivity, which is what should happen.
What you describe would be impossible on OS X without another third party app causing something to happen. OS X has NO "sensitivity" at all. Everything is controlled by accelerated ballistics. There is absolutely no linear multiplier in any of the mouse code EXCEPT at the very lowest setting of the mouse pane in system preferences, which is sssllllooooowwww.
FWIW I think I have sensitivity code working in 3.0. I had a revelation in a narcolepsy-nap stupor and it appears to be quite the ingenious hack :D
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On September 23 2011 10:57 pathaN wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2011 04:53 s710 wrote:Hi, i found this thread through googling, and i would love to use your tool to play sc2 on my mac. im using a razer copperhead mouse with no special drivers, but with this tool to fix the mouse acceleration (outside of games): http://osxdaily.com/2010/06/02/kill-os-x-mouse-acceleration-from-the-command-line/as known, mouse acceleration will reset once i start sc2. i downloaded your tool and installed it, but nothing changed. i also dont see any special prefpane in the preferences. am i doing something wrong, or is my mouse not supported? Are you using leopard? Since it's only compatible with 10.6+ (snow leopard and up) that might be the problem. If you are using 10.6+ then check if you have /Library/LaunchAgents/com.bumblebees.mousefixer.plist You should also check if the process is running by looking for "Mousefixer2" in your Activity Monitor. If either one of the two things is missing then I would assume it's an installation problem. If both things are present then Im not sure what it could be, do let us know if thats the case maybe something can be figured out.
You are a saint. Please bear my children. :D
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Hi Bumblebees, great work on this nifty app.
Would it be possible to leave the acceleration on as normal on trackpad while keeping the mouse linear?
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On September 25 2011 16:36 voyager02 wrote:
Hi Bumblebees, great work on this nifty app.
Would it be possible to leave the acceleration on as normal on trackpad while keeping the mouse linear?
That is what is already does. mf3 also has options to handle trackpad as well.... if I finish it.
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tytytytytytyty finally i might be able to micro! works for razer specter! XD
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On September 23 2011 10:57 pathaN wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2011 04:53 s710 wrote:Hi, i found this thread through googling, and i would love to use your tool to play sc2 on my mac. im using a razer copperhead mouse with no special drivers, but with this tool to fix the mouse acceleration (outside of games): http://osxdaily.com/2010/06/02/kill-os-x-mouse-acceleration-from-the-command-line/as known, mouse acceleration will reset once i start sc2. i downloaded your tool and installed it, but nothing changed. i also dont see any special prefpane in the preferences. am i doing something wrong, or is my mouse not supported? Are you using leopard? Since it's only compatible with 10.6+ (snow leopard and up) that might be the problem. If you are using 10.6+ then check if you have /Library/LaunchAgents/com.bumblebees.mousefixer.plist You should also check if the process is running by looking for "Mousefixer2" in your Activity Monitor. If either one of the two things is missing then I would assume it's an installation problem. If both things are present then Im not sure what it could be, do let us know if thats the case maybe something can be figured out.
Please completely forget what i wrote. i actually managed to miss the big fat "MAKE SURE YOU RESTART AFTER INSTALLATION" and did *not* restart after installation.
Coming back to it today, i saw the mousefixer process, and tried to play sc2. voila! mouse works perfectly with no acceleration at all!
thanks so much for this tool!
for the records: snow leopard + diamon copperhead + no drivers = works 100%
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In 1.4 you can now check the box "Mouse sensitivity" and sc2 will work MUCH better with any mouse program, including mousefixer!
Thanks to blizzard! Now if they could do the mouse sensitivity portion correctly... It's really not that hard :|
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Also, bad news, I lost all my work on 3.0 I did something really dumb. Bleh
Shouldn't be hard to redo what was done, maybe even better. Just going to be later.
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Hey bumbles, just wanted to let you know that after multiple installations my computer refuses to input the plist file into the launchagents folder. If there's anyways to isolate this particular folder and input it myself, that would be much appreciated
I'm under Snow Leopard and using a SS Xai.
Edit: after troubleshooting using you and pathan's dialogue I was able to use the isolated plist from the the users/library file and copy that into the straight library file. I also added mousefixer as a login launch item and it seems to be working ok, I'm still perturbed by the lack of control in in very slow movements, but expecting perfection from a mac OS isn't something I think is gonna happen, so thanks for all the help up to this point
dbl edit: to be clear, the problem is the mouse is unpredictably jittery when movements are slowed to do normal things like click the "x" on a window, it is VERY frustrating because it makes mundane things difficult
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I'm getting the same negative acceleration issue in Lion as a few other people in the thread did, was the cause ever discovered? It's a brand new iMac and some kind of simple Logitech mouse.
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Am using Logitech Performance MX mouse on Lion,and it feels exactly like with ExactTool software.
What i mean by that,it feels like i am making circles with cursor.
I dont if this is how it needs to be,but it sure isn't as its on Windows.
A lot worse then with acceleration on.Or is Lion not supported?
BTW. Am not using LCC just default settings.
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On October 11 2011 13:02 GaussWaffle wrote:
dbl edit: to be clear, the problem is the mouse is unpredictably jittery when movements are slowed to do normal things like click the "x" on a window, it is VERY frustrating because it makes mundane things difficult
That is what should occur with linear acceleration. It would appear that you do not like linear acceleration if that is a problem that is bothering you.
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On October 11 2011 21:16 OTIX wrote:
I'm getting the same negative acceleration issue in Lion as a few other people in the thread did, was the cause ever discovered? It's a brand new iMac and some kind of simple Logitech mouse.
I have not been able to make this happen. I could really use a how-to on how to make this occur.
Even a Skype call with someone would probably help me out a bit.
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On October 11 2011 21:32 jasam22 wrote:
Am using Logitech Performance MX mouse on Lion,and it feels exactly like with ExactTool software.
What i mean by that,it feels like i am making circles with cursor.
I dont if this is how it needs to be,but it sure isn't as its on Windows.
A lot worse then with acceleration on.Or is Lion not supported?
BTW. Am not using LCC just default settings.
I'm sorry, I realize english is probably not your native language, but I don't understand your phrase "What i mean by that,it feels like i am making circles with cursor."
It is supported in lion.
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Does anyone know if there's way to increase the DPI of the mouse after installing the mousefixer? The acceleration is perfect after installing the app, but the mouse itself moves quite slowly, and changing the settings in logitech control center or in mouse preferences doesn't have any effect on the cursor movement.
I also tried using usb overdrive after applying the fix, but that doesn't have any effect either, as long as I have mousefixer installed no other cursor movement settings seem to apply :-(
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On October 16 2011 02:28 Bumblebees wrote:
I'm sorry, I realize english is probably not your native language, but I don't understand your phrase "What i mean by that,it feels like i am making circles with cursor."
It is supported in lion.
You are right English is not my native language.
Maybe this two video will help you to understand what was i talking about.
First screencast is with default Lion settings.And second video is with MouseFixer.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/447438/ScreenFlow.mov
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/447438/ScreenFlow2.mov
You can see how more difficult is to reach that close button and how it feels like mouse is pointer is going in circles.
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Thank you for the great program, its made a significant difference for me.
However, I have a logitech mouse and am unable to find a way to change the sensitivity. For me, the control panel changes don't negate Mousefixer, they just simply have no effect and revert back to default when I close the window. The logitech driver I downloaded has no effect either.
Any advice on solutions/new mouse?
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On October 19 2011 07:42 jasam22 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 02:28 Bumblebees wrote:
I'm sorry, I realize english is probably not your native language, but I don't understand your phrase "What i mean by that,it feels like i am making circles with cursor."
It is supported in lion. You are right English is not my native language. Maybe this two video will help you to understand what was i talking about. First screencast is with default Lion settings.And second video is with MouseFixer. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/447438/ScreenFlow.movhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/447438/ScreenFlow2.movYou can see how more difficult is to reach that close button and how it feels like mouse is pointer is going in circles.
That looks like it is working exactly how it should. I think you're just used to the OS X acceleration (which makes the mouse slower when you move slowly).
Thank you for the video, that was much easier to figure out than a lot of other problems
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On October 19 2011 12:21 popsilique wrote:
Thank you for the great program, its made a significant difference for me.
However, I have a logitech mouse and am unable to find a way to change the sensitivity. For me, the control panel changes don't negate Mousefixer, they just simply have no effect and revert back to default when I close the window. The logitech driver I downloaded has no effect either.
Any advice on solutions/new mouse?
Razer deathadder or Steel series Sensei or Xai.
Those are the best options in my opinion. Any mouse that has onboard dpi control or OS X drivers.
Keep in mind that the logitech do not have proper os x drivers, it's just a helper app.
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On October 16 2011 09:08 bball2 wrote:
Does anyone know if there's way to increase the DPI of the mouse after installing the mousefixer? The acceleration is perfect after installing the app, but the mouse itself moves quite slowly, and changing the settings in logitech control center or in mouse preferences doesn't have any effect on the cursor movement.
I also tried using usb overdrive after applying the fix, but that doesn't have any effect either, as long as I have mousefixer installed no other cursor movement settings seem to apply :-(
Buy a new mouse. See my last post.
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On October 20 2011 02:38 Bumblebees wrote:That looks like it is working exactly how it should. I think you're just used to the OS X acceleration (which makes the mouse slower when you move slowly). Thank you for the video, that was much easier to figure out than a lot of other problems
Well than its a lot worst comparing to default acceleration.
It feels like it going where it wont's to go.
I have Windows PC also, behavior is not like this.
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On October 20 2011 03:18 jasam22 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 02:38 Bumblebees wrote:That looks like it is working exactly how it should. I think you're just used to the OS X acceleration (which makes the mouse slower when you move slowly). Thank you for the video, that was much easier to figure out than a lot of other problems Well than its a lot worst comparing to default acceleration. It feels like it going where it wont's to go. I have Windows PC also, behavior is not like this.
Are you sure Windows doesn't have "enhance pointer precision" on? That is mouse acceleration. That would feel similar to OS X default.
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Am sure.I have been Windows user for 15 years.
This is not the same behavior,in fact its not even close.
Its like its going in "U" curve when i want to move diagonal.
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REading through this post I believe to understand that all I have to do is:
Install my OSX Death Adder drivers, run your mousefixer package, restart and then I can play around with any setting in my death adder driver but I am not allowed to touch the mouse settings in my OsX preference panel. Right? If I would ever change a setting i would have to rerun your script i suppose?
What about the Acceleration feature within the Death Adder driver? i make sure that it si turned off before running your app? And last but not least: do you recommend to uncheck the mouse sensitivity box within SC2?
All the best,
Lukas
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On October 25 2011 20:24 lukasdesign wrote:
REading through this post I believe to understand that all I have to do is:
Install my OSX Death Adder drivers, run your mousefixer package, restart and then I can play around with any setting in my death adder driver but I am not allowed to touch the mouse settings in my OsX preference panel. Right? If I would ever change a setting i would have to rerun your script i suppose?
What about the Acceleration feature within the Death Adder driver? i make sure that it si turned off before running your app? And last but not least: do you recommend to uncheck the mouse sensitivity box within SC2?
All the best,
Lukas
You are correct. You can mess with the accel settings in the razor panel all you want, mouse fixer will do its own thing anyway. They will have no affect.
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On October 25 2011 02:31 jasam22 wrote:
Am sure.I have been Windows user for 15 years.
This is not the same behavior,in fact its not even close.
Its like its going in "U" curve when i want to move diagonal.
I'm sorry, but your videos show it working correctly. You are just overshooting the target, which is common behavior for people not used to linear acceleration.
I sat here and slow-motioned the video and calculated the mouse ballistics best I could and it looks exactly correct.
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On October 11 2011 13:02 GaussWaffle wrote:
Hey bumbles, just wanted to let you know that after multiple installations my computer refuses to input the plist file into the launchagents folder. If there's anyways to isolate this particular folder and input it myself, that would be much appreciated
I'm under Snow Leopard and using a SS Xai.
Edit: after troubleshooting using you and pathan's dialogue I was able to use the isolated plist from the the users/library file and copy that into the straight library file. I also added mousefixer as a login launch item and it seems to be working ok, I'm still perturbed by the lack of control in in very slow movements, but expecting perfection from a mac OS isn't something I think is gonna happen, so thanks for all the help up to this point
dbl edit: to be clear, the problem is the mouse is unpredictably jittery when movements are slowed to do normal things like click the "x" on a window, it is VERY frustrating because it makes mundane things difficult
kind of late but it might be of help.
Jittery behavior might be due to the pooling rate of your mouse if it exceeds 125hz (gaming mouse can usually function at 500 or 1000hz but it makes the movement all the more jittery if you have that issue). I think it is a problem with Mac and their USB ports. It has supposedly been fixed with Lion but I haven't really checked since I managed to find a comfy set up for my own mouse and have been too afraid to experiment with anything since then :D
Put it back to 125hz using your driver. You might need to clean and re-instal the driver though.
I might try the new version of bumblebee's though as I see he's kept developping the lovely fix.. Much <3 to Bbbee btw ^^
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Hello Bumblebees,
Thank you so much for your application, which worked for me (Mac OS X 10.7.2, Logitech MX518). I can't wait for 3.0 !
Thanks again, and keep up the good work !
Cheers
PS: After having tried many different solutions to tackle that problem, yours is by far the best. You should sell definitely sell/distribute for free your app through the App Store, or at least have a website dedicated to it ! I would buy it for sure.
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On September 29 2011 01:08 Bumblebees wrote:
In 1.4 you can now check the box "Mouse sensitivity" and sc2 will work MUCH better with any mouse program, including mousefixer!
Thanks to blizzard! Now if they could do the mouse sensitivity portion correctly... It's really not that hard :|
Did you mean UNchecking the box "Enable Mouse Sensitivity" (StarCraft 1.4.1) ?
Thanks
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On October 28 2011 20:04 sirdharma wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 01:08 Bumblebees wrote:
In 1.4 you can now check the box "Mouse sensitivity" and sc2 will work MUCH better with any mouse program, including mousefixer!
Thanks to blizzard! Now if they could do the mouse sensitivity portion correctly... It's really not that hard :| Did you mean UNchecking the box "Enable Mouse Sensitivity" (StarCraft 1.4.1) ? Thanks
That is correct.
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On October 28 2011 17:28 sirdharma wrote:
Hello Bumblebees,
Thank you so much for your application, which worked for me (Mac OS X 10.7.2, Logitech MX518). I can't wait for 3.0 !
Thanks again, and keep up the good work !
Cheers
PS: After having tried many different solutions to tackle that problem, yours is by far the best. You should sell definitely sell/distribute for free your app through the App Store, or at least have a website dedicated to it ! I would buy it for sure.
Thank you, but this app would not be allowed on the app store due to some terms. I also don't care too much about it. I made it for myself and just happened to decide to share it with TL.
I'm even surprised at myself that I'm helping people with it
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On October 29 2011 22:52 Bumblebees wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2011 17:28 sirdharma wrote:
Hello Bumblebees,
Thank you so much for your application, which worked for me (Mac OS X 10.7.2, Logitech MX518). I can't wait for 3.0 !
Thanks again, and keep up the good work !
Cheers
PS: After having tried many different solutions to tackle that problem, yours is by far the best. You should sell definitely sell/distribute for free your app through the App Store, or at least have a website dedicated to it ! I would buy it for sure. Thank you, but this app would not be allowed on the app store due to some terms. I also don't care too much about it. I made it for myself and just happened to decide to share it with TL. I'm even surprised at myself that I'm helping people with it
Hello Bumblebees,
I see what you mean. I told you that because I think your app should get the attention it deserves. I know I had been looking for something similar for quite some time, and it being hosted on a forum on TL.net does not make it the easiest to find
Being a developer myself, I am wondering how your app works, and how does it differ from USBOverdrive / Decelerate. I understand it is very different from USBOverdrive being just a user app and not a driver. And I also know it does not have the problem of Decelerate settings (.GlobalPreferences com.apple.mouse.scaling) being reset by other application you would run. Is that something you would be willing to discuss ?
Cheers!
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Dear Bumblebees,
I use your great mousefix, however I am still suffering of mouse inaccuracy.
I use the death adder set on 1800dpi and i still try to find an ideal sensitivity setting in the driver. i turned off any sensitivity settings in Starcarft and i made sure that acceleration is off in the Driver.
On my 24" Apple screen i score very rarely more than 4000 points in the sc2 gear mouse game. I really have a hard time!
On the otherside i do the same thing at work [ :-) ] were i have a 30" screen and a logitech mx518 (1800dpi), no acceleration. I score 8000+ on a regular basis. At work i do a lot of 3d and 2d Application so my mouse sensitivity is a bit lower than i would like for Sc2, but this can't be the only difference. As i tried to use a sensitivity of ~4 at home too without much improvement.
What could i do wrong in my setup at home?
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Is it just me or is the download link broken? It just stays at "Processing download request..." T_T
I'd really love to make use of this program.
edit: dw, all fixed :D
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Hello, sorry for my english. I have magic mouse, that fix working good, but my mouse is too fast. How can I slow down?
Best regards
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Sad to report that this fix isn't working for me.
I'm using a Microsoft Intellimouse Optical on OS X 10.6.8 and I'm getting very noticeable deceleration at slow speeds even after installing the tool. Any ideas?
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Love my Razr DeathAddar on mac os.
I wish I could have gotten the "special edition" mac one.
I wish the driver and thorny settings were more Starcraft friendly.
Maybe they could explain the features and benefits of each tweak you make with the different sensitivities from an SC POV.
Macros work great, but I use the general preference pane mouse settings for everything else.
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I'm surprised that in 12 pages you only vaguely describe what you're doing. Something to do with GLUT and Quartz, what specifically?
What do you mean that the acceleration is exactly like in Windows? Are you replicating the steps here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/gg463319 ? Or what are you doing, what are you measuring?
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For those still having issues with mouse acceleration in OSX and aren't helped by this fix, I recommend trying out Steermouse. Works wonders for me!
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Hey Bumblebees, I know activity on this thread has died down, but I am hoping you still check it. I am using a Razer Orochi on Snow Leopard. It seems to hit the ideal sensitivity with my DPI maxed at 4000. From what I read on some of your previous posts (I read the whole thread as requested) 4000 should be far to high. My understanding of mice especially in OSX is very little and I just wanted to make sure that your software is working correctly for me.
Also, thank you very much for this software, I searched a long time and found nothing else like this. I plan on donating to your efforts and look forward to an answer as well as Mouse Fixer 3!
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This is the closest thing to a fix for mouse movement on mac that I've tried so far, great job! While SteerMouse, USB Overdrive and Mouse Acceleration Preference Pane all allow to mess with the speed and acceleration, the cursor still seems 'floaty' and skip a lot, which sucks. No such problems with this one though :D !
The only issue is that even though it makes the cursor move as expected, it's too slow for me and there is no way to change the cursor speed as far as I can tell. System Preferences don't help as they are set to max, at MouseFixer prevents any other app to mess with the the speed (including Logitech Center).
Anybody know a way around this? No acceleration is absolutely awesome, but it's still unusable if I can't get the speed right.
P.S: Using a Logitech M180 if it makes any difference.
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On January 08 2012 20:07 Matu wrote:[...]
Anybody know a way around this? No acceleration is absolutely awesome, but it's still unusable if I can't get the speed right.
P.S: Using a Logitech M180 if it makes any difference.
Currently, the only way to change the speed when this fix is active (and it seems this fix really is the only fix available that's truly working. I've tried...) is to have a mouse with adjustable DPI like most Razer or Logitech mice (G9, Deathadder etc).
I'm on Lion with this fix and a DeathAdder @900 DPI. Works like a charm. Great, great work by bumblebee!!
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I want to thank you Bumblebees. Those are eight brilliant kilobytes.
I tested your program on a 24" iMac running Mac OS X Snow Leopard with a Razer DeathAdder 3500. It works flawlessly. I use a setting of 3500dpi with 5/10 sensitivity and no acceleration.
Note to similar users:
The button on the bottom of my mouse can switch between the 5 configuration profiles without triggering a regression to OS X's native accelerated mouse ballistics as long as MouseFixer2 is running. If anyone else wonders why the button on the button of their DeathAdder 3500 reverts to acceleration on when switching profiles, the reason is that they have probably closed the MouseFixer2 app. If that is the case, re-run the app after any profile change to update your mouse ballistics (and remove acceleration once again) and you can then close the terminal window that executed MouseFixer2. Or (this is that the developper suggests) just leave it running in the background if you can afford sacrificing a tiny bit of resources for the added convenience, assuming you either need to prevent programs from messing with your mouse configuration, or assuming you switch profiles with the button underneath the 3500 or mess with the Razer driver applet on a regular basis. Depending on the drivers involved, this might be valid for other mice using a profile change button, not only Razers.
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On January 11 2012 06:56 3nigmatiq wrote:
I want to thank you Bumblebees. Those are eight brilliant kilobytes.
I tested your program on a 24" iMac running Mac OS X Snow Leopard with a Razer DeathAdder 3500. It works flawlessly. I use a setting of 3500dpi with 5/10 sensitivity and no acceleration.[...]
Im not 100% sure, but if i remember correctly, 3500 DPI @ 5/10 is not linear. I think it even says so in the manual that comes with the deathadder - 10/10 sensitivity is the only linear setting.
So having 3500 DPI @ 5/10 means a loss in precision. 10/10 in combination with the a DPI setting that is comfortably fast for you should be the way to go.
And if my memory tricks me in this case, just forget all the bullshit that I've written xD (I'm fairly certain though that what I just said actually is the case)
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I'd like to see something to back that statement up, haven't seen anything about a fixed 32ms lag until now.
(the link to the Logitech forums does only talk about the polling rate issue on Leopard and below)
The partly untrue statement about mouse accel on OS X doesn't make this article very believable.
And a little add-on I just had to think about:
The article says that the OS X input lag is thus twice as big as the lag Windows has.
Thus: OS X 32ms, Win 7 16ms.
Now think about the polling rate of mice. NO ONE ever complained about an input lag on Windows when 125mhz mice were standard. So let's compare the lag of a 125hz mouse on Windows to a modern 1000hz mouse on OS X:
125hz=8ms lag + 16ms Windows lag gives us a total of 24ms input lag.
1000hz=1ms lag + 32ms OS X lag gives us a total of 33ms input lag.
That's (assuming this article is true) 9ms of an additional lag on OS X compared to what was considered perfectly playable. I can live with that.
The point I want to make with this is not what OS X is doing regarding mouse ballistics is cool. Nah uh! I hate the bad coding on the OS X front and Windows definitely is superior, be it the input lag or mouse accel. At most though, if you're using the same polling rate, you get 16ms addition delay on OS X.
I can't' see how this renders a properly configured OS X in combination with a good mouse "useless".
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Bumblebees you are a hero!
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To add my voice to the chorus, I used this utility after trying out Decelerator and it works wonderfully. Decelerator worked well for making the acceleration more consistent in the OS in general, but this gives the mouse a much more natural feel in SC2. Awesome!
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On January 14 2012 04:04 MrBazinga wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 06:56 3nigmatiq wrote:
I want to thank you Bumblebees. Those are eight brilliant kilobytes.
I tested your program on a 24" iMac running Mac OS X Snow Leopard with a Razer DeathAdder 3500. It works flawlessly. I use a setting of 3500dpi with 5/10 sensitivity and no acceleration.[...] Im not 100% sure, but if i remember correctly, 3500 DPI @ 5/10 is not linear. I think it even says so in the manual that comes with the deathadder - 10/10 sensitivity is the only linear setting. So having 3500 DPI @ 5/10 means a loss in precision. 10/10 in combination with the a DPI setting that is comfortably fast for you should be the way to go. And if my memory tricks me in this case, just forget all the bullshit that I've written xD (I'm fairly certain though that what I just said actually is the case)
In the manual, I did not find information backing up your statement. The closest on the subject is the following.
Razer DeathAdder Master Guide (PDF, page 8)
Sensitivity
Mouse sensitivity is an internal filter of the driver. The maximum sensitivity setting of 10 is unfiltered. Each incremental stop or setting is a 10% decrease, i.e. 1 setting will decrease mouse pointer input to 10% (i.e. a linear graph).
From the above, I understand that 3500dpi with 5/10 sensitivity is approximately equal to half that dpi with twice the sensitivity, or 1750dpi with 10/10 sensitivity. Therefore, when acceleration is turned off in the Razer's driver app, the sensitivity slider does not affect acceleration, since there is no acceleration (thanks to MouseFixer2). But most importantly, it certainly feels that way in practice. I do not notice any change in the distance travelled by the pointer as a function of mouse speed.
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By the way, as my previous setting was a bit too fast, I am now using an even lower sensitivity (3500dpi at 2.5/10 sensitivity) and I still see no sign of pointer acceleration. I guess 3500*25% is about 1800 * 50%, i.e. what Bumblebees suggested for a Windows-like mouse setting.
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Thanks you, Bumblebees. This little fix definitely works, and it is great for editing and work besides gaming.
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On January 18 2012 23:30 3nigmatiq wrote:Show nested quote +Razer DeathAdder Master Guide (PDF, page 8)
Sensitivity
Mouse sensitivity is an internal filter of the driver. The maximum sensitivity setting of 10 is unfiltered. Each incremental stop or setting is a 10% decrease, i.e. 1 setting will decrease mouse pointer input to 10% (i.e. a linear graph).
From the above, I understand that 3500dpi with 5/10 sensitivity is approximately equal to half that dpi with twice the sensitivity, or 1750dpi with 10/10 sensitivity. Therefore, when acceleration is turned off in the Razer's driver app, the sensitivity slider does not affect acceleration, since there is no acceleration (thanks to MouseFixer2). But most importantly, it certainly feels that way in practice. I do not notice any change in the distance travelled by the pointer as a function of mouse speed.
Sorry, I didn't mean acceleration but accuracy.
Let's say u move the mouse 15px to the right.
Sensitivity 10/10: Mouse moves 15px to the right
Sensitivity 05/10: Mouse moves 7,5px to the right
Since there is no half-pixel, the software then either sends 7 or 8 pixel as movement.
So yeah, this seems to be really nitpicky and I would probably never ever be able to tell the difference between 1800dpi @ 5/10 and 900dpi @ 10/10.
BUT: If you go more extreme like an 80% reduction, that would actually mean that you move your mouse 2 pixel yet the cursor doesn't move at all. Now that doesn't seem right to me.
And maybe I'm mistaken and someone please correct me if I'm wrong - but i think there is no advantage whatsoever having higher DPI at lower sensibility. (compared to using your DPI 1 to 1)
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On January 19 2012 07:51 MrBazinga wrote:
Sorry, I didn't mean acceleration but accuracy.
Let's say u move the mouse 15px to the right.
Sensitivity 10/10: Mouse moves 15px to the right
Sensitivity 05/10: Mouse moves 7,5px to the right
Since there is no half-pixel, the software then either sends 7 or 8 pixel as movement.
So yeah, this seems to be really nitpicky and I would probably never ever be able to tell the difference between 1800dpi @ 5/10 and 900dpi @ 10/10.
BUT: If you go more extreme like an 80% reduction, that would actually mean that you move your mouse 2 pixel yet the cursor doesn't move at all. Now that doesn't seem right to me.
And maybe I'm mistaken and someone please correct me if I'm wrong - but i think there is no advantage whatsoever having higher DPI at lower sensibility. (compared to using your DPI 1 to 1)
This makes more sense. However, your argument stands only as long as we assume enough dexterity at practical mouse settings (unlike the extreme case in my example below), such that the hand will "know" the difference between signalling the mouse to travel a distance of d pixels and a distance of d-c pixels, where c will be much smaller than d in practice.
For example, take a setting of 3500dpi, 10/10 sensitivity. This translates into 3500 pixels (dots) per inch, or 137.8 pixels per millimeter. The mouse distance to move only 1 pixel in either direction (x or y coordinates) is the reciprocal of that value, or 0.007257 millimeters per pixel.
Let's decrease sensitivity down to an extreme 1/10 (which is approximately equal to an effective 350dpi setting, just below that of an ordinary low precision mouse). Keep in mind that such a setting without acceleration will be unbearably slow, so it is not as realistic a choice as say, a sensitivity of 2/10 at 3500dpi. But I am choosing it on purpose to test your argument. Using these values, we translate them into 13.78 pixels per millimeter, which means we must move the mouse 0.07257 millimeters to move the pointer one pixel on the screen in either x or y coordinates. This is one mouse step.
Now, assuming the engineers at Razer weren't retarded and didn't just truncate the pixel values or take a ceiling function, they would have implemented a function in the internal driver (before the mouse sends the information to the operating system) that rounds the number of mouse steps to the closest integer number (as you said, there is no half-pixel). If we want to move the pointer half of that minimum value in either the horizontal or the vertical direction on the screen, but we get a pointer movement of either 0 or 1 pixels, this leaves us with a maximum error, in either coordinate, of half of 0.07257mm/px, that is, 0.03629mm/px. Taking this worst case scenario to a 2-dimensional coordinate-system, the maximum error would be that same value, multiplied by 1.414 (the square root of 2), which yields a maximum error of 0.1026mm/px diagonally (x and y coordinates)
Can the hand-brain relationship tell the difference in that case? Certainly, 0.1mm is well within the physical limits of perception of human dexterity. However, this is really a worst case scenario, as it is highly impractical to use a mouse at 350 effective dpi without any acceleration, because it is so slow for any general purpose. This is also assuming we want to move the mouse by a single pixel, in most cases this will be irrelevant, as we will want to move the mouse a greater number of pixels, and as you will recall above, the distance d will be significantly greater than the error c.
About your last statement, it is hard to say for sure, but it certainly seems like you are right about that though: there seems to be no advantage to using 1800dpi at 2.5/10 sensitivity versus 450dpi at 10/10 sensitivity. I say it is hard to say for sure because, if I had engineered such a mouse and if it had 4 distinct sensor settings (the sensor behaviour changes physically - I don't know if that is the case with the Razer), I would have tried to allow the internal mouse driver to use the higher dpi settings' higher resolution in order to better resolve the issue of travelling less than an integer number of pixels. However it is highly likely that the mouse's 4 dpi settings are simply sensitivity filters themselves (with respect to the maximum dpi value of 3500), as I assume such a feature is cheaper to implement in software than in hardware.
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Great app, thank you! First I got hyped, hoping to have some real solving for these mouse problems. Then I found out, Razer has no OSX drivers for the Abyssus. Fuck 'em
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On January 20 2012 00:31 3nigmatiq wrote:
[blablablablabla] I would have tried to allow the internal mouse driver to use the higher dpi settings' higher resolution in order to better resolve the issue of travelling less than an integer number of pixels. However it is highly likely that the mouse's 4 dpi settings are simply sensitivity filters themselves (with respect to the maximum dpi value of 3500), as I assume such a feature is cheaper to implement in software than in hardware.
Haha, that just made me try and realize how ridiculously small of an movement I have to make in order to get my 10/10@1800CPI DA to move the cursor one pixel. Fascinating ^^
Well, yeah, it seems more like a theoretical disadvantage that won't really be noticeable in real life - especially for everyone who is not a 10mio APM progamer - I totally agree.
On January 20 2012 01:30 SkyTheUnknown wrote:Great app, thank you! First I got hyped, hoping to have some real solving for these mouse problems. Then I found out, Razer has no OSX drivers for the Abyssus. Fuck 'em
I wouldn't give up that fast. I'm using my DA without the mac drivers, simply because I don't like running stuff that isn't really necessary for me (it's only useful if u switch your mouse settings regularly)
The Deathadder internally saves 1 profile that will become the default setting if u connect it to a machine with no razor driver. So if I configure the DA in Windows to have 1000hz polling, 1800dpi - then this will be exactly the setting that it'll use on a mac.
Now, I'm not 100% sure the Abyssus works exactly the same way, but since they already share the same sensor - if I were u, I would definitely check that option out!
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This mousefixer is the only thing I've found that can actually get rid of acceleration in Lion, USB overdrive can't seem to do it anymore. Unfortunately I can't use UO to adjust the mouse speed either, when MF is installed, so I'm stuck on the default speed. Luckily it's not too bad.
As for the OSX latency I think it's definitely noticable, it's not the end of the world but you just can't get the same "crisp" feeling as in Windows.
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Hello, I have a macbook (late 2008) and just received a logitech M510 mouse as gift.
I noticed some problems with it (especially while playing starcraft) so I downloaded this program and tried to run it.
Unfortunately nothing changed.
Is open the program, get this screen, and restart my laptop all I have to do or is there something I am missing?
Please let me know
EDIT: I tried to run the program again, restart and now the acceleration is gone. Unfortunately often in SC2 the cursor gets stuck on a corner or starts acting weird for few seconds. Is there a way to solve this issue?
EDIT2: I realized the cursor gets stuck and acts weird mostly while i play multiplayer...if i play single player it almost never happens. I don't have any lag at all with the rest of the game though.
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Help...
I have a MacBook Pro with Mac OS X Version 10.7.3
and a
Razer Mamba Mouse
I tried to install the Fixer and i noticed change but when i tried to play CounterStrike Source the Mouse Cursor won't move.
Now i wanted to unistall everything but i can't find the "com.bumblebees.mousefixer.plist" in my LaunchAgents Folder... Deleting the Application doesnt work ofcourse.
Also checket the activity monitor. But there is no Mousefixer entry too ....
Can't Play CounterStrike anymore since then...
Please help me....
Thanks for any reply!
Regards,
M47 from Germany
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Anyone else having problems with this in Lion?
(tl;dr of the paragraph below is that I now beach ball on startup whenever I install mousefixer)
I just finally upgraded, and everything went smoothly except that my mouse became skittish like it had been before I installed mousefixer. Tried uninstalling/reinstalling to no effect. Upgraded my deathadder firmware, no effect. Upgraded the deathadder driver, no effect. Came back to this thread and got the updated 2nd version of mouse fixer, uninstalled the old version, installed the new one, and any time I try and install the new one I beach ball infinitely on the restart afterwards. I get to my desktop but it's completely bricked. I can move my mouse around but it's just a beach ball and clicking on things has no effect. After a hard reset mousefixer 2 seems to be installed but the mouse operates as if it's not.
Just wondering if anyone has experienced this or knows what I should do. Up until now mousefixer has been a godsend
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Sorry for bumping this old thread but the tool you provided worked great when I tried it some time ago with my logitech G5. In the meantime i got 10.7 and a G700 (today) and was expecting to work the same way. But after a quick test, nothing changed at all. But i noticed, during the login screen of OS X, the mouse behavior was perfect. But after logging in, it was terrible again... Any ideas?
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On January 20 2012 01:30 SkyTheUnknown wrote:Great app, thank you! First I got hyped, hoping to have some real solving for these mouse problems. Then I found out, Razer has no OSX drivers for the Abyssus. Fuck 'em
I'm rolling with this bump because I have the same problem as Sky. The mouse fixer does remove acceleration, but I can't adjust mouse speed, even within SC2. 1800 is too high for me (1366*768 monitor) and 450 is too low, so I'm going with acceleration for now.
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Works beautifully for the original apple magic mouse i had paired with my mac. Doesn't with this arbitrary dell usb mouse ):
Also, my mouse randomly disappears in game and the side scrolling seems to only work 50% of the time. Curse you apple !
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why use mac in the first place.. for gaming?
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On August 22 2012 13:26 Bub wrote:
why use mac in the first place.. for gaming?
Why does it matter what he uses?
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On August 22 2012 13:27 Paradise` wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 13:26 Bub wrote:
why use mac in the first place.. for gaming? Why does it matter what he uses?
Because most if not all good 3d games use directx, and macs are ridiculously expensive, primarily because you cannot build your own, nor do the desktops come with proper graphics cards either. Hackintosh computers make sense if you like the OS, but they're the vast minority.
Basically:
Prebuilts for games -> wtf no.
Mobile gpus for games -> are you feeling ok?
Combined -> ... need I say more?
I'm specifically referring to the "desktop" macs, not laptops, which aren't at all geared for games. Apple laptops are quite good for what they do imo, compared to the poorly built crap from most vendors these days.
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this fix is great, but i need to change the speed for my Logitech Performance MX, any idea how? i've tried looking for the logitech control center but to no avail. Am i out of luck? thanks!
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On August 22 2012 13:26 Bub wrote:
why use mac in the first place.. for gaming?
I use a Windows box at home for gaming, but I'm currently setup at my workplace with a MBP. For obvious reasons, I don't lug my desktop from home back and forth between work just for after-hour gaming sessions. I'd dual-boot into windows / linux, but installing a driver is so much easier.
Why wouldn't I try to game on a mac if I own one?
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On August 22 2012 13:26 Bub wrote:
why use mac in the first place.. for gaming?
Have both, like OSX better, do all my work here, much easier to jump in and out of bnet on my main machine than to fire up the pc and play there. Basically I only play on the Windows machine now if there is some really bleeding edge game I'm desperate to try; and even then mostly its just easier to bootcamp.
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I'm stupid. Thanks for your great Tool!
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Bumping to confirm this patch works in Mac OS X 10.8.2 Mountain Lion as flawlessly as it does in Mac OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard. Tested with a Razer DeathAdder 3.5G (the regular non-Mac edition), with a recent MacBook Pro's trackpad and with a generic 1000dpi USB optical mouse, all good.
I haven't tested it in Mac OS X 10.7 Lion because I hate that version of the operating system (that damned auto-save).
So those who had problems in 10.7 might want to upgrade their OS to the 10.8 version
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Thank you for creating this it works great! I was surprised at the noticeable difference as I restarted my comp.
edit: found how to uninstall it. Thanks again for this awesome fix
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Russian Federation4 Posts
hmm, and what about just turn off acceleration?
defaults write .GlobalPreferences com.apple.mouse.scaling -1
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I love you, thank you thank you thank you!
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This is the first fix that actually works! I've tried USB Overdrive, Decelerator, Thank you Bumblebees. How can I donate?
Also, how can I disable it while in the normal operating system. The acceleration is useful in photoshop etc. Also, is the source for this on Github?
Thanks again!
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The acceleration is useful in photoshop etc
You could seek to re-enable acceleration, i'd just say lower your DPI with 1:1 tracking and no pixel skipping until you can comfortably select individual pixels on your screen. This happens to me about 1k DPI (maybe 1.5k with fingertip grip), which is right about where the "best" sensitivity range is for gaming performance - depending on preference and grip, i'd say anything in the 400-1600 range is about right. The majority of people have incorrect settings that introduce positive and/or negative acceleration and cause pixel skipping or other tracking inconsistencies and problems but this thread fixes that i think, forced tracking equivalent to middle setting in windows.
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Thanks - I can't adjust my magicmouse though. As soon as I move anything in the control panel, it snaps back.
The magic mouse is better than my Razer in OSX because of the scrolling up down/left right.
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I downloaded and installed.. Is it supposed to start somehow?
I just bought a MBP(retina 15") and I'm very new to OSX and mac in general I have a Razer Abyssus.
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On April 29 2013 02:31 JollYRoGeR wrote:I downloaded and installed.. Is it supposed to start somehow? I just bought a MBP(retina 15") and I'm very new to OSX and mac in general I have a Razer Abyssus.
You have to reboot for it to work; it's probably just a background service that's being started when your Mac starts.
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Is this still relevant in 2013? (for all peripheral brands)?
Cheers.
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On May 11 2013 10:22 Crowley. wrote:
Is this still relevant in 2013? (for all peripheral brands)?
Cheers.
Yes, and since people keep asking, information on how to donate is listed in the file you download. You can also PM me on TL.
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edit: There is is a better place for this post, so I shall take it there.
Im working on a new Mousefixer again due to some new info presented. No guarantees, but I'm giving it a go.
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On May 17 2013 07:04 Bumblebees wrote:
edit: There is is a better place for this post, so I shall take it there.
Im working on a new Mousefixer again due to some new info presented. No guarantees, but I'm giving it a go.
Have you heard about SmoothMouse? I heard they’re searching for programmers …
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On May 17 2013 17:32 blueslobster wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2013 07:04 Bumblebees wrote:
edit: There is is a better place for this post, so I shall take it there.
Im working on a new Mousefixer again due to some new info presented. No guarantees, but I'm giving it a go. Have you heard about SmoothMouse? I heard they’re searching for programmers …
Yes, I was discussing it with the author well before it became public. I was unable to fix the main issue with it, and I'm not sure it's possible.
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Hey Bumblebees,
i am using your fix since since snow Leo and realy want to thank your for your great work. =)
Please let me ask some questions:
1) Is it ok to use your fix alongside smoothmouse? While smoothmouse main focus is to kill lag, it says also it would use "the exact pointer acceleration algorithms of Windows".
2) Whave you tried your Fix in OS X Mavericks yet? Does it work as expected?
3) What about the new Fixer you are working on? What is the new Info you are refering to?
I <3 U
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On June 30 2013 06:05 IbHalbherz wrote:
Hey Bumblebees,
i am using your fix since since snow Leo and realy want to thank your for your great work. =)
Please let me ask some questions:
1) Is it ok to use your fix alongside smoothmouse? While smoothmouse main focus is to kill lag, it says also it would use "the exact pointer acceleration algorithms of Windows".
2) Whave you tried your Fix in OS X Mavericks yet? Does it work as expected?
3) What about the new Fixer you are working on? What is the new Info you are refering to?
I <3 U
1) no, they are not compatible
2) nope, I haven't even moved to 10.8 yet
3) I dont have much to say here.
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Hey there,
Has anyone tried both Smoothmouse and Bumblebees mouse fix? And if so, what are the main differences?
Thank you
EDIT: A future mac gamer. I will replace my macbook soon with a new one that will actually play sc2.
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I'm on 10.9 Mavericks and it doesn't work, something in Mavericks must have broken it.
Is there source available for this fix?
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On September 20 2013 02:35 trueno86 wrote:
I'm on 10.9 Mavericks and it doesn't work, something in Mavericks must have broken it.
Is there source available for this fix?
Oh interesting, if you run it as root manually it does work. So maybe something is up with the plist that starts it?
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Hello,
I am a new mac user. I have tried this tweak you have shared to us and i would say it is perfect. But my mouse, my one and only favorite gaming mouse USB Optical Mouse by Logitech (M-UAE96), as basic as it gets, don't have a driver for mac, checked from their website. Is there any way I can adjust my mouse settings somehow without harming the tweak from your mouse fix?
I have tried adjusting my mouse settings with SteerMouse, but it brings back the mouse acceleration that I hate using the mouse with. I have also tried with USB Overdrive but it's the same thing.
I really want a workaround for my mouse.
Please help me, thank you!
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Thanks for this! I've installed it but I'm also having an issue with my dock not appearing while hovering over it with the cursor. I have to click to get it to show. Also my menus don't expand either unless I left-click. Are there any settings anyone knows of to change this? I've checked but couldn't find anything... I've also uninstalled the MouseFixer as per the instructions but no luck.
Any info is appreciated. Thanks!
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So this is old, but it seems to still work beautifully—without it, SC2 re-enables acceleration, and MouseFixer still prevents that. But, again, it’s old; has anything superseded MouseFixer? Any technical issues with it after eight years?
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You're a true god amongst men Bumblebees, but it does aggravate me to a disproportionate degree that Apple haven't included no mouse acceleration as a standard feature yet.
It's just such a small tweak on their end and I reallly cannot fathom why it hasn't been added, but in the interim you fixes are filling that gap for me anyway.
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Did anyone test yet if it is still working on macOS Catalina? According to release notes, support for 32bit software was dropped, though I don't know if it was actually technically dropped, or if its just new AppStore guidelines.
I am using this program for years, and I am very happy with it. If it ceased to work with Catalina, @Bumblebees would you mind just recompiling it in 64bit?
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On October 09 2019 19:46 s7101 wrote:
Did anyone test yet if it is still working on macOS Catalina? According to release notes, support for 32bit software was dropped, though I don't know if it was actually technically dropped, or if its just new AppStore guidelines.
I am using this program for years, and I am very happy with it. If it ceased to work with Catalina, @Bumblebees would you mind just recompiling it in 64bit?
I haven't paid any attention to this thread and suffered for a while with SteerMouse. However, I upgraded to Catalina overnight last night and haven't had any issues with my Razer Deathadder (old one, blue color) and mouse accel. I have no idea if this means SteerMouse is finally running the show or if they changed something else with Catalina overnight last night, but I just played two games with mouse control similar to my shitty work PC that I've never had any issues mouse-related with.
Miracle?!
p.s. I'm terrified to click on my settings related to my mouse, even open SteerMouse or the SteelSeries ExactMouse out of fear that I'll ruin whatever I've fallen into.
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CPL mouse fix
If that is all it is, you could have summed it up as disabling mouse acceleration. I don't mean that in a negative way at all, but that reg hack was largely obsolete by Win 2k.
It's just such a small tweak on their end and I reallly cannot fathom why it hasn't been added
I would imagine for the same reason it wasn't added to newer versions of Windows for quite some time. *shrug*
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On October 19 2019 01:22 renaissanceMAN wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2019 19:46 s7101 wrote:
Did anyone test yet if it is still working on macOS Catalina? According to release notes, support for 32bit software was dropped, though I don't know if it was actually technically dropped, or if its just new AppStore guidelines.
I am using this program for years, and I am very happy with it. If it ceased to work with Catalina, @Bumblebees would you mind just recompiling it in 64bit? I haven't paid any attention to this thread and suffered for a while with SteerMouse. However, I upgraded to Catalina overnight last night and haven't had any issues with my Razer Deathadder (old one, blue color) and mouse accel. I have no idea if this means SteerMouse is finally running the show or if they changed something else with Catalina overnight last night, but I just played two games with mouse control similar to my shitty work PC that I've never had any issues mouse-related with. Miracle?! p.s. I'm terrified to click on my settings related to my mouse, even open SteerMouse or the SteelSeries ExactMouse out of fear that I'll ruin whatever I've fallen into.
I didn't want to install too heavy/invasive software on my mac, and since indeed the old solution is no longer working on catalina, I am now using this: https://github.com/patrickjane/fixmouse
It works for me so far.
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On December 25 2019 20:00 s710 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2019 01:22 renaissanceMAN wrote:On October 09 2019 19:46 s7101 wrote:
Did anyone test yet if it is still working on macOS Catalina? According to release notes, support for 32bit software was dropped, though I don't know if it was actually technically dropped, or if its just new AppStore guidelines.
I am using this program for years, and I am very happy with it. If it ceased to work with Catalina, @Bumblebees would you mind just recompiling it in 64bit? I haven't paid any attention to this thread and suffered for a while with SteerMouse. However, I upgraded to Catalina overnight last night and haven't had any issues with my Razer Deathadder (old one, blue color) and mouse accel. I have no idea if this means SteerMouse is finally running the show or if they changed something else with Catalina overnight last night, but I just played two games with mouse control similar to my shitty work PC that I've never had any issues mouse-related with. Miracle?! p.s. I'm terrified to click on my settings related to my mouse, even open SteerMouse or the SteelSeries ExactMouse out of fear that I'll ruin whatever I've fallen into. I didn't want to install too heavy/invasive software on my mac, and since indeed the old solution is no longer working on catalina, I am now using this: https://github.com/patrickjane/fixmouseIt works for me so far.
On an M1 Big Sur 11.1 now and working through a 27" Logitech 4k Cinema Display. Razer Synapse no longer seems to be recognizing the devices, so I'm back to the drawing board. Have you tried this with a newer machine?
EDIT: turns out Steelseries ExactMouse was interfering with SteerMouse and that was causing these weird spikes in accel. Disabled ExactMouse and we’re kosher!
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