• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 23:25
CET 04:25
KST 12:25
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down20ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier6Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League95
StarCraft 2
General
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? SC2 Power Rank: epic29 Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.17 How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR?
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier RSL 2026 Offline Finals LCQ Sign-Ups
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 548 Shining Bright Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror
Brood War
General
Mathematicians needed to calc "Low Econ Epicness" BW General Discussion Rollback Netcode in Brood War SCHNAIL now supports Remastered Ziemie's Starcraft 1 Prequel Campaign
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [BSL23] RO24 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [IPSL] IPSL Winter 26-27 Ro24 is HERE!
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Deus Ex 3!? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes?
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8773 users

Computer Build Resource Thread - Page 927

Forum Index > Tech Support
Post a Reply
Prev 1 925 926 927 928 929 1626 Next
When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
denkan112
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden15 Posts
February 10 2012 12:20 GMT
#18521
Hello will a AMD phenom x2 555 3.2GHZ, gt9600 and 2gb ram run starcrfat 2 60fps+ on lowest with 1920*1080?
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
February 10 2012 12:48 GMT
#18522
On February 10 2012 11:46 MisterFred wrote:
Rachnar... you might be screwed, especially since the computer wasn't starting up before you pulled your CPU out, but since it might help let me share with you my own similar story.

I had an old Dell with an Athlon 64 x2. It was getting really loud, which is why I have my new computer (thanks everyone who helped me select components). I was trying to get access to the case fan (which blew directly on an otherwise passive CPU heatsink), but there was a plastic shroud in the way which directed the flow of the air and kept me from accessing anything.

I unscrewed all the screws I could find attached to the shroud, but it still seemed stuck on something. I assumed it was some plastic clip I couldn't see where it connected to the case fan housing, so I gave the shroud a good sharp tug.

*CRACK* out came the plastic shroud, the heatsink (unexpectedly screwed to the shroud in a way I couldn't see) and the CPU. (I dunno, the thermal paste was some sort of glue or something.) Well, of course I thought the computer was toast. But hell, it was night time and I didn't have anything else to do, so I took a look.

Two of the CPU's pins were bent, and during unsuccessful attempts to re-seat the processor I bent four more pins. Nevertheless, I unlocked the CPU socket (as I would have taking out the CPU normally), rebent the damaged pins back into place with the thin tip of a swiss army knife, finally reseated the CPU/heatsink/shroud assembly, rescrewed the shroud onto the case, and locked the CPU socket with the little arm thingy.

It worked. I couldn't believe it. Started up on the first try, just as if I'd never physically torn the CPU from the socket with brute force. Of course the computer still sounded like a jet engine, so I replaced it anyway. But I give credit to AMD for making a processor that's not totally fragile.


Yeah, I've done the same thing, and it worked after I bent the pins back. It almost always works to bend the pins back on AMDs CPUs. It's a lot more difficult with the intel (motherboards) however...

But to avoid it from happening again, always turn the heatsink around sideways instead of pulling it. If the computer has been hot, it usually sticks to the heatsink like glue.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
February 10 2012 15:37 GMT
#18523
How's it possible to test a PSU without the rest of a computer?
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
February 10 2012 16:00 GMT
#18524
@denkan112 yep, that should be no problem. You might be able to play at higher graphics settings than low, too. Team games when everyone has high supply will slow down sometimes, but that's true for most processors.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
February 10 2012 17:02 GMT
#18525
Fuck LR threads. Im going to stick to building computers.
twitch.tv/medrea
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
February 10 2012 18:39 GMT
#18526
On February 11 2012 00:37 Rachnar wrote:
How's it possible to test a PSU without the rest of a computer?


http://www.overclock.net/t/96712/how-to-jump-start-a-power-supply-psu-test-a-power-supply-and-components
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
February 10 2012 19:41 GMT
#18527
On February 11 2012 03:39 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 00:37 Rachnar wrote:
How's it possible to test a PSU without the rest of a computer?


http://www.overclock.net/t/96712/how-to-jump-start-a-power-supply-psu-test-a-power-supply-and-components

If you're an EE person you might also just own a multimeter and can properly test it.
http://www.devhardware.com/forums/power-supply-units-98/what-s-a-multimeter-how-to-use-it-to-test-75111.html
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
February 10 2012 20:22 GMT
#18528
"Properly test" is probably much too strong a wording for what you can do with a multimeter, particularly a cheaper one. It's not like those things have the bandwidth to measure ripple and noise. The DC measurements should be in the general vicinity of the correct value, but not too much more.

This is not to mention the low load behavior of the power supply possibly being much different than the heavier load behavior.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 21:33:04
February 10 2012 21:31 GMT
#18529
On February 11 2012 05:22 Myrmidon wrote:
"Properly test" is probably much too strong a wording for what you can do with a multimeter, particularly a cheaper one. It's not like those things have the bandwidth to measure ripple and noise. The DC measurements should be in the general vicinity of the correct value, but not too much more.

This is not to mention the low load behavior of the power supply possibly being much different than the heavier load behavior.

Well you get a bit more then just turning it on, just becuase you got the fan to spin doesn't give you much info. And i know alot more people with high end multimeters then the several thousands dollars worth of the appropriate equipment.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
February 10 2012 21:48 GMT
#18530
Right, it's a good check to make sure things aren't horribly wrong, but it's certainly not enough to pass/fail evaluate a power supply.
Ronanbarbie
Profile Joined October 2011
United States14 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-11 08:11:27
February 11 2012 06:33 GMT
#18531
Hi, I was hoping to build a computer, and the realization came that I really have no idea what I'm doing. I've read this thread a bit, and have been surfin MicroCenter to look at parts. I want to keep the component part of it down to about 600-700 dollars, and I'm going to have to buy a monitor for it but I've budgeted that serparately. I plan to use this mostly just for gaming, and my upgrade cycle is probably long (2+ years). I don't need an OS. Here's what I've come up with so far.

Graphics card: HD 6850 $169.99

CPU: Core i5 2500k $179.99 (note, I don't plan on overclocking, but this seemed like a good deal. I could get an i5 2400 for 149.99, not sure if the 2500k is worth $30 more when i don't plan on overclocking)

Motherboard: LGA 1155 H61 $54.99 ($44.99 MIR)

RAM: 4GB DDR3 1333 $26.99 ($21.99 MIR)

Hard Drive: Caviar 500GB 7,200RPM $77.99

PSU: TR2 series 500W ATX Thermaltake $44.99 ($34.99 MIR)

Case: HAF912 Mid ATX $54.99 ($44.99 MIR)

Total: $609.93 + tax = $648.05
With Rebates: $613.05

Please let me know of any glaring errors, and any suggestions you may have about this set up. I'd like not to spend much more than this, if possible. Also, I don't mind ordering from somewhere else, it's just that MicroCenter is relatively close (Boston) and they seem to have really great deals. I know there was a lengthy discussion about PSU's, and I didn't really understand any of it, so if what I've chosen is really poor, I will go with whatever I need to.

Thank you!

ETA: Sorry, I'm an idiot :/ forgot the DVD burner.

DVD Burner $19.99
KneeDeeP
Profile Joined July 2010
United States256 Posts
February 11 2012 06:39 GMT
#18532
Hey guys was hoping you guys could help me with a good build,

Budget- 1300

Resolution- 1920 by 1080

Uses- Pretty Much all gaming Mostly RPG and RTS

Upgrade cycle- 2+ years

When- Within the next month

Overclocking - None

Operating System - Will need new operating system

No GPU for SLI or crossfire

Parts- Best place I have for parts locally is Best Buy so I'm thinking I will use New Egg
"the virtuous man is content to dream what a wicked man really does"
oo_xerox
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States852 Posts
February 11 2012 09:44 GMT
#18533
On February 10 2012 18:41 Boblhead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 18:20 oo_xerox wrote:
So apparently this chick in my block wants to sell her old PC and asked me to tell her in how much she could sell it. She is kinda hot so im using you guys knowledge to tell her eheh..

Core2duo 1.8 board intel dg 33 160HDD 19'monitor 500w psu

Its the entire thing, you know with a DVD burner, mouse, keyboard, speakers etc. Luckily things here are a bit mkore expensive so ill add a premium.


75-120 depending if the monitor is decent.

I......ladies and gentleman, sold it in FOUR HUNDRED BUCKS. Thank you very much
I could get a more coherent article by gluing a Sharpie to a dog's cook and letting it hump the page.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 11 2012 12:07 GMT
#18534
On February 11 2012 15:33 Ronanbarbie wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hi, I was hoping to build a computer, and the realization came that I really have no idea what I'm doing. I've read this thread a bit, and have been surfin MicroCenter to look at parts. I want to keep the component part of it down to about 600-700 dollars, and I'm going to have to buy a monitor for it but I've budgeted that serparately. I plan to use this mostly just for gaming, and my upgrade cycle is probably long (2+ years). I don't need an OS. Here's what I've come up with so far.

Graphics card: HD 6850 $169.99

CPU: Core i5 2500k $179.99 (note, I don't plan on overclocking, but this seemed like a good deal. I could get an i5 2400 for 149.99, not sure if the 2500k is worth $30 more when i don't plan on overclocking)

Motherboard: LGA 1155 H61 $54.99 ($44.99 MIR)

RAM: 4GB DDR3 1333 $26.99 ($21.99 MIR)

Hard Drive: Caviar 500GB 7,200RPM $77.99

PSU: TR2 series 500W ATX Thermaltake $44.99 ($34.99 MIR)

Case: HAF912 Mid ATX $54.99 ($44.99 MIR)

Total: $609.93 + tax = $648.05
With Rebates: $613.05

Please let me know of any glaring errors, and any suggestions you may have about this set up. I'd like not to spend much more than this, if possible. Also, I don't mind ordering from somewhere else, it's just that MicroCenter is relatively close (Boston) and they seem to have really great deals. I know there was a lengthy discussion about PSU's, and I didn't really understand any of it, so if what I've chosen is really poor, I will go with whatever I need to.

Thank you!

ETA: Sorry, I'm an idiot :/ forgot the DVD burner.

DVD Burner $19.99


Are you limited to buying from Microcenter? Microcenter is only known for having good pricing on processors. The pricing on the rest of the components aren't as good as you make them out to be.

The 2400 is 300MHz slower so you can determine whether 300MHz is worth $40 to you.

4GB of memory can be had for $17 on Newegg. You're paying $26 + tax at Microcenter.

Radeon HD6850 can be had for less than $140 on Newegg. You're paying $170 at tax...

DVD burner can be had for $17 or less on Newegg.. You're paying $20 + tax...

That Thermaltake unit isn't good. A 400w unit such as a Antec High Current Gamer or Antec Neo Eco, both are around $45 as well with higher build quality and provides more than enough power for a non-overclocked low-end configuration.

The HDD you're getting is a refurbished enterprise drive... I'm not a big fan on refurbished products. I'd just pay $2 more for a brand new consumer HDD.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 11 2012 12:26 GMT
#18535
On February 11 2012 15:39 KneeDeeP wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hey guys was hoping you guys could help me with a good build,

Budget- 1300

Resolution- 1920 by 1080

Uses- Pretty Much all gaming Mostly RPG and RTS

Upgrade cycle- 2+ years

When- Within the next month

Overclocking - None

Operating System - Will need new operating system

No GPU for SLI or crossfire

Parts- Best place I have for parts locally is Best Buy so I'm thinking I will use New Egg


$939

Intel Core i5 2500 @ $195 (w/ promo code EMCNHNC39, ends 2/13)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.818460

Asrock H61M U3S3 @ $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236

G.Skill 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $37
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231422

HIS Radeon HD6870 @ $155
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161389

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 x64 @ $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

Crucial M4 128gb @ $180
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148442

Antec High Current Gamer 620 @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371048

Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $50
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1029

Seagate Barracuda 500GB @ $76
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63468&promoid=1029

DVD Burner @ $16
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=45244&promoid=1029
ForgottenOne
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania236 Posts
February 11 2012 14:21 GMT
#18536
Hey, I need an SSD of 120 GB or 128 GB. Is any of these good?
> HDD SSD OCZ Vertex 2 2.5 SATA2 MLC
> HDD SSD OCZ Agility 3 2.5 120GB SATA3 MLC
> HDD SSD OCZ Vertex 3 2.5 120GB SATA 3 MLC

Should I care for Sata 3? Should I care a lot about the brand or any cheaper will do?

I'll be using it for OS, most used programs like browser, local database, local webserver and personal files with which I work a lot. Also I'll have my Dropbox folder on it.
Born free, as free as the wind blows...
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 11 2012 14:26 GMT
#18537
On February 11 2012 23:21 ForgottenOne wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hey, I need an SSD of 120 GB or 128 GB. Is any of these good?
> HDD SSD OCZ Vertex 2 2.5 SATA2 MLC
> HDD SSD OCZ Agility 3 2.5 120GB SATA3 MLC
> HDD SSD OCZ Vertex 3 2.5 120GB SATA 3 MLC

Should I care for Sata 3? Should I care a lot about the brand or any cheaper will do?

I'll be using it for OS, most used programs like browser, local database, local webserver and personal files with which I work a lot. Also I'll have my Dropbox folder on it.


Yes, you should care about SATA 3 if you are buying a Sandforce. First generation Sandforce (Vertex 2) was SATA 2 and they've had tons of issues. Second generation Sandforce (Agility 3, Vertex 3) is SATA 3 and they had BSOD issues that was fixed with a firmware but some are still experiencing the issue even with updated firmware and RST.

Intel, Crucial, Plextor, and Samsung are the recommended brands for reliability. If you don't care than OCZ is fine.
Skipvth
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands180 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-11 18:22:17
February 11 2012 17:14 GMT
#18538
I just built a new pc, i've got a 500gb sata hdd. But in BIOS it says it's only 4gb. Clean pc, can't install windows this way. Any idea what this could be? defect HDD?

Installing windows on another HDD right now.
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
February 11 2012 17:22 GMT
#18539
Ok, I am having issues installing my second hdd (sata 2tb caviar green). I can't find it in manage/storage/manage hard drive (don't know what it called in english) It is connected and get power (can hear it at startup) is it broken or am I retarded?
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
fatfail
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States386 Posts
February 11 2012 18:49 GMT
#18540
I want to upgrade my computer. My budget is about 400-500. I currently have a 6850, 4gb ddr2 ram, some athlonx2 at 2.2 ghz, and some incredibly crap microatx motherboard. I can keep my graphics card, case, hard drive, and PSU. So basically, I need ram, cpu, motherboard, cooling, and maybe a ssd if budget allows. I use my computer mainly to play starcraft1/2, occasional fps games, and watch movies. I've been thinking about an i3-2120? What do you guys recommend?
Kong fan... <3 Stork <3 Jangbi <3 Yellow <3 Fantasy
Prev 1 925 926 927 928 929 1626 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 10h 35m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft228
RuFF_SC2 196
ViBE157
Codebar 40
StarCraft: Brood War
White-Ra 150
Sharp 59
ajuk12(nOOB) 31
Noble 5
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm150
LuMiX5
Super Smash Bros
amsayoshi69
Other Games
summit1g10152
JimRising 574
XaKoH 454
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick807
CranKy Ducklings19
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta40
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP38
• Nickrosys3
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo787
• Rush750
Upcoming Events
OSC
10h 35m
Yamato Cup
11h 35m
IPSL
13h 35m
Artosis vs RiceHat
Kyrie vs Sony
Map Test Tournament
19h 35m
WardiTV Weekly
1d 8h
Ultimate Battle
1d 8h
Rush vs BeSt
Replay Cast
1d 19h
Rogue vs Classic
Patches Events
2 days
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
6 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
IPSL
6 days
WorsT vs nOmaD
Dewalt vs andersOn
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-30
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

1xBet Invitational
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.