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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
brainox
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany292 Posts
February 11 2012 22:31 GMT
#18561
I am going to build a new pc with a gti gtx 560 ti and a i5-2500 and i am not sure which PSU i should get i think about the seasonic S12II 620W or 520 W. How much Watt do i need?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 11 2012 22:33 GMT
#18562
520w.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
February 11 2012 22:44 GMT
#18563
Would a HCG 620 be capable of running CX 6870 along with OC'd i5-2500k?
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 11 2012 22:45 GMT
#18564
Yes.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
February 11 2012 22:50 GMT
#18565
Okidoki thanks once again
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
migpim
Profile Joined April 2010
4 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-11 22:51:58
February 11 2012 22:51 GMT
#18566
Hello every1 im a long time teamliquid visitor... though my post count doesnt reflect that i just like to come here after a hard days of work and watch some sc /sc2 streams /events...

so ive decided to get a new computer and i would like some help... currently i only have a laptop (not really for gaming) but i want a decent med-high end gaming pc... ill try and follow the 1st pages layout and fill in the blanks.

What is your budget? 2000$ CAN
What is your resolution? I already use an Asus VE247h - 24'in (1920X1080) as a second monitor on my laptop so i can just use this monitor for my new PC
What are you using it for? Gaming/Graphic Design - - Also maybe in the future getting into 3D / max/maya/ etc.
What is your upgrade cycle? 3 years?
Do you plan on overclocking? yes
Do you need an Operating System? yes
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? not sure...
Where are you buying your parts from? ncix.com

• CPU - ?
• Motherboard - ?
• Ram - 4gb or more
• GPU - Radeon HD 7970 or 7950... friend told me to get one of these...
• PSU - depends on the other things ?
• CASE - nothing fancy looking - good air flow?
• HSF - not sure what is good enough for my budget since im missing so much stuff...
• HDD/SSD - 7200RPM hdd 2tb? and i do want an SSD as i would think it will make a difference in using multiple adobe applications...
• Overclocking - yes

- i think i need a keyboard to so i need a cheap one for gaming...

*** Okay so I know im missing alot of things up there... I just having trouble deciding what i need... also i have never built a pc from parts as ive only had a laptop as my 1st computer... from looking at ncix's custom pc > Enthusiast/Extreme Gaming is were i would fall... i guess.. so this is what im starting to look at first is... playing around thier custom built ones...

all in all i need some advice... =)
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 11 2012 23:50 GMT
#18567
On February 12 2012 07:51 migpim wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hello every1 im a long time teamliquid visitor... though my post count doesnt reflect that i just like to come here after a hard days of work and watch some sc /sc2 streams /events...

so ive decided to get a new computer and i would like some help... currently i only have a laptop (not really for gaming) but i want a decent med-high end gaming pc... ill try and follow the 1st pages layout and fill in the blanks.

What is your budget? 2000$ CAN
What is your resolution? I already use an Asus VE247h - 24'in (1920X1080) as a second monitor on my laptop so i can just use this monitor for my new PC
What are you using it for? Gaming/Graphic Design - - Also maybe in the future getting into 3D / max/maya/ etc.
What is your upgrade cycle? 3 years?
Do you plan on overclocking? yes
Do you need an Operating System? yes
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? not sure...
Where are you buying your parts from? ncix.com

• CPU - ?
• Motherboard - ?
• Ram - 4gb or more
• GPU - Radeon HD 7970 or 7950... friend told me to get one of these...
• PSU - depends on the other things ?
• CASE - nothing fancy looking - good air flow?
• HSF - not sure what is good enough for my budget since im missing so much stuff...
• HDD/SSD - 7200RPM hdd 2tb? and i do want an SSD as i would think it will make a difference in using multiple adobe applications...
• Overclocking - yes

- i think i need a keyboard to so i need a cheap one for gaming...

*** Okay so I know im missing alot of things up there... I just having trouble deciding what i need... also i have never built a pc from parts as ive only had a laptop as my 1st computer... from looking at ncix's custom pc > Enthusiast/Extreme Gaming is were i would fall... i guess.. so this is what im starting to look at first is... playing around thier custom built ones...

all in all i need some advice... =)


$2000 is a lot of money to spend on a computer fyi.

Yes, you want a SSD with this budget. It would be stupid to not get one. Crucial M4 (your best option since it's available at NCIX and the one that's most widely available in Canada), Intel 510, Plextor M3, or Samsung 830 should be your #1 choices for SSDs.

2x4gb is the minimum you want for new configurations since memory is so inexpensive. You can add more later if you find yourself needing more for editing.

Your friend is right that with your budget, you would only want to look at getting a Radeon HD7970. Though it is overkill for 1080p gaming.

For CPU and motherboard, I guess you'll build on the LGA1155 platform with a core i7 2600k (~$300) and a P8Z68-V maybe (~$160) since LGA2011 is sort of out of reach unless you want to sacrifice in other areas. LGA1155 will be stuck with quads while LGA2011 will be expandable to octo cores so keep this in mind. The extra cores may prove to be useful if you are doing heavy editing in the future.

Cases that offer good airflow, sound dampening, and an elegant design include but not limited to Fractal Design Define R3 (~$110), Antec P280 (~$120), and Corsair Obsidian 550D (~$160).

Seasonic X is a nice option for a high-end power supply, X660 is currently $120. 80+ gold, fully modular, and a five year warranty. If you want to pay extra for a near identical unit but with a seven year warranty instead, the Corsair AX650 (built by Seasonic) is only $10 more.

For heatsink, you want a Noctua NH-D14 for $80.

Look into getting a Dell Ultrasharp (U2312HM goes on sale often for under $200, U2412M also goes on sale often for under $300, U2711 has been on sale for under $700) It would be a real shame to pair such a nice configuration with a shitty TN monitor.
Tivu
Profile Joined February 2012
United States244 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-12 02:37:07
February 12 2012 02:36 GMT
#18568
Hello everyone, I plan on building a new pc in a week or two. I have a 1TB HD and a PSU. Now, should I use the current PSU(Gift) that has been running great for the last 8 months or buy a new one instead?

I also listed the parts that I plan on buying too.

+ Show Spoiler +
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($23.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock P67 PRO3 (B3) ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($104.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 1GB Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $555.93

Budget is $650
Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-12 02:44:08
February 12 2012 02:41 GMT
#18569
On February 12 2012 11:36 Scrios wrote:
Hello everyone, I plan on building a new pc in a week or two. I have a 1TB HD and a PSU. Now, should I use the current PSU(Gift) that has been running great for the last 8 months or buy a new one instead?

I also listed the parts that I plan on buying too.

+ Show Spoiler +
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($23.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock P67 PRO3 (B3) ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($104.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 1GB Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $555.93

Budget is $650

PSU is fine for that build. IDK about the quality though, thermaltake usually doesn't make awful PSU's right?
Also, got a DVD drive?
Tivu
Profile Joined February 2012
United States244 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-12 02:50:00
February 12 2012 02:45 GMT
#18570
On February 12 2012 11:41 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 11:36 Scrios wrote:
Hello everyone, I plan on building a new pc in a week or two. I have a 1TB HD and a PSU. Now, should I use the current PSU(Gift) that has been running great for the last 8 months or buy a new one instead?

I also listed the parts that I plan on buying too.

+ Show Spoiler +
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($23.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock P67 PRO3 (B3) ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($104.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 1GB Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $555.93

Budget is $650

PSU is fine for that build. IDK about the quality though, thermaltake usually doesn't make awful PSU's right?


Well, I have heard bad things about their PSUs but I also have heard some good things too. So I really don't know.

Edit: Maybe I got lucky on this one.
Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
February 12 2012 02:51 GMT
#18571
On February 12 2012 11:45 Scrios wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 11:41 Josh_rakoons wrote:
On February 12 2012 11:36 Scrios wrote:
Hello everyone, I plan on building a new pc in a week or two. I have a 1TB HD and a PSU. Now, should I use the current PSU(Gift) that has been running great for the last 8 months or buy a new one instead?

I also listed the parts that I plan on buying too.

+ Show Spoiler +
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($23.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock P67 PRO3 (B3) ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($104.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 1GB Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $555.93

Budget is $650

PSU is fine for that build. IDK about the quality though, thermaltake usually doesn't make awful PSU's right?


Well, I have heard bad things about their PSUs but I also have heard some good things too. So I really don't know.

Edit: Maybe I got lucky on this one.


I'd probably wait till tomorrow when skyR will undoubtedly tell me that thermaltake PSU's are god awful or "ok" :D
Tivu
Profile Joined February 2012
United States244 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-12 03:02:47
February 12 2012 03:02 GMT
#18572
On February 12 2012 11:51 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 11:45 Scrios wrote:
On February 12 2012 11:41 Josh_rakoons wrote:
On February 12 2012 11:36 Scrios wrote:
Hello everyone, I plan on building a new pc in a week or two. I have a 1TB HD and a PSU. Now, should I use the current PSU(Gift) that has been running great for the last 8 months or buy a new one instead?

I also listed the parts that I plan on buying too.

+ Show Spoiler +
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($23.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock P67 PRO3 (B3) ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($104.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 1GB Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $555.93

Budget is $650

PSU is fine for that build. IDK about the quality though, thermaltake usually doesn't make awful PSU's right?


Well, I have heard bad things about their PSUs but I also have heard some good things too. So I really don't know.

Edit: Maybe I got lucky on this one.


I'd probably wait till tomorrow when skyR will undoubtedly tell me that thermaltake PSU's are god awful or "ok" :D


Sounds like a good Idea.
Ronanbarbie
Profile Joined October 2011
United States14 Posts
February 12 2012 03:11 GMT
#18573
@scrios- I just got back from MicroCenter, and they take $50 off the motherboard when you buy an i5 2500k from there. Wallet on the last page said z68 mobo's, so I don't know if that's an option or not, just letting you know.
Tivu
Profile Joined February 2012
United States244 Posts
February 12 2012 03:16 GMT
#18574
On February 12 2012 12:11 Ronanbarbie wrote:
@scrios- I just got back from MicroCenter, and they take $50 off the motherboard when you buy an i5 2500k from there. Wallet on the last page said z68 mobo's, so I don't know if that's an option or not, just letting you know.


I'll have to check this out when I go to Denver Tuesday. Thanks
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
February 12 2012 03:32 GMT
#18575
Thermaltake has very many units in the TR2 line, but most you actually see are outdated low-end units sourced from HEC that should be avoided. That includes the TR2 600W W0388RU in question. There's certainly much worse out there, but it's nothing that anybody should be purchasing.

It's not a bad idea to have a backup power supply, so I'd consider picking up this OCZ ZS 550W for $55 shipped here (before an additional $25 mail-in rebate):
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=62391&promoid=1029
Tivu
Profile Joined February 2012
United States244 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-12 05:44:24
February 12 2012 05:21 GMT
#18576
On February 12 2012 12:32 Myrmidon wrote:
Thermaltake has very many units in the TR2 line, but most you actually see are outdated low-end units sourced from HEC that should be avoided. That includes the TR2 600W W0388RU in question. There's certainly much worse out there, but it's nothing that anybody should be purchasing.

It's not a bad idea to have a backup power supply, so I'd consider picking up this OCZ ZS 550W for $55 shipped here (before an additional $25 mail-in rebate):
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=62391&promoid=1029


I'll most likely do that and just keep the TR2 in my current desktop and put the new one in the other. I'll check out it and thanks for your help Myrmidon.
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
February 12 2012 08:41 GMT
#18577
another sign the HDD prices are getting back to their normal levels.

http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Internal-ST2000DL003/dp/B004CCS266/

2 TB at $110, probably hit $100 at the end of this month. Cant wait until it hits $70 like it was before the damn Thai floods.
hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4612 Posts
February 12 2012 22:19 GMT
#18578
What is your budget?

I'm looking at spending around $500, hopefully maybe a little more if needed.

What is your resolution?

1440 x 900

What are you using it for?

General Gaming. Would like to run Dota2 at decent settings. Other than that not too peculiar.

What is your upgrade cycle?

Probably 2 years. I'm about to graduate college and this just needs to last me until I find a nice paying job and then I can look to upgrade (hopefully!)

When do you plan on building it?

Relatively soon, my poor laptop is dying a quick and painful death T_T

Do you plan on overclocking?

Nope.

Do you need an Operating System?

Sadly, yes T_T

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

What? Sorry I'm horribad computer newbie. So no, I guess not

Where are you buying your parts from?

Newegg, I guess. Live in Atlanta so if anybody thinks of anything cheaper, it would be appreciated.

Thanks for the time! This thread is great!
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?viewdays=0&show_part=5 <--- Articles Section on TL
Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-12 23:11:38
February 12 2012 23:05 GMT
#18579
Hiya, just finalising my new build, will be getting the rest of the money for it on feb 27th. Here it is :


+ Show Spoiler +
CPU- i5 2500k -http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Sandybridge-i5-2500K-Quad-Core-Processor/dp/B004FA8NX2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1329077508&sr=8-1

MOBO - ASRock p67 extreme4 - http://www.amazon.co.uk/ASRock-P67-EXTREME4-GEN3-Motherboard/dp/B005FGMQAQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1322875705&sr=8-2

GPU - radeon 7950 - http://overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-289-SP

PSU - 750 bronze - http://overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-057-OC

RAM - G-skill 8GB Ripjaws X Low profile 1333mhz - http://www.amazon.co.uk/G-Skill-Ripjaws-DDR3-1333-Dual/dp/B002X578GE/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1325107452&sr=1-2

HDD - 7200RPM 1TB - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Seagate-ST31000524AS-Barracuda-7200rpm-Buffer/dp/B004HBAGSO/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1322876642&sr=1-1

SSD - Crucial m4 64gb - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-008-CR

Case - Cooler Master CM 690 II Advanced - mid tower - ATX - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-CM-690-Advanced/dp/B00336EM0W/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1329077826&sr=1-1


TOTAL - £1008.23 + Windows 7 (~£64.99)

What you think? Anything that can be improved on?

*Edit, already got a third party cooler (Noctua NH-D14)
Kerans
Profile Joined November 2011
Italy58 Posts
February 12 2012 23:20 GMT
#18580
Hi guys, I submitted my build on this awesome thread a few months ago and finally built my first rig from the ground up. I recently dabbled in overclocking my i7-2600k, and since the mobo (Asus P8Z68 Deluxe/Gen3) has this little utility called TurboV EVO, I gave it a spin before going into the BIOS and starting to mess around manually.
The case is an NXZT Phantom with every possible fan except the 200mm side fan, since it wouldn’t fit together with the Cooler Master Hyper 212 HSF, and room temperature is around 18 degrees Celsius. Speed of intake fans is close to minimum, a little higher for exhaust fans - since I seem to recall that it should be the ideal setting in order to achieve maximum cooling - and the HSF blows air directly towards the back 140mm fan.
I started with the “fast” setting, and upon rebooting, the multiplier was set to x43, with a CPU voltage of 1.195, BLCK at 100 and DDR voltage at 1.5 (VCCSA Voltage: 0.925, VCCIO Voltage: 1.05, CPU PLL Voltage: 1.80, PCH Voltage: 1.05, all data comes from what I can see under the TurboV EVO section of the Asus AI Suite, under “Manual Tuning”). I trusted the thing only to a certain extent, so I got myself Prime 95 and Realtemp and kept the rig under test for close to 50 minutes. The cores’ temperatures with system idle is around 25-27 degrees, and no core went above 64-65 C during the test, with a difference in temperature between cores no wider than 3-5 degrees.
What I’m wondering is this: are these results too good to be true, or can I keep things as they are for a daily usage, which includes anything from audio/video editing to gaming? System looks very stable as far as I can tell, no problem detected whatsoever, no BSODs, no nothing - but I wouldn’t want things to come back and bite me in the ass a few months down the road.
Thank you, and thanks again to everyone who keeps this thread so useful.
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