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On February 09 2012 19:43 pogy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hy everyone. Can someone help me with my next purchase? Last month I bought a intel i5 2500k, asrock p67 pro3, gskill 8gig 1600mhz ripjaws. I have my old gpu 8600gt and a old powersupply. Gpu is overclocked to 700mhz gpu clock and 800 memory clock. I have windows 7 ultimate, play on 1920*1080. Computer is used for gaming, no video editing. I play sc2 but i want to play most of the new games. The question is what should I buy first? Because i cant buy everything at once (im a student). I was thinking of a sapphire hd 6770 but i dont know if my power supply can handle all that. Should i buy the power supply before the gpu? The last thing to buy is a hyper evo 212 so i can overclock my cpu. I hope I explained everything and thanks for the help!
Radeon HD6770 consumes only like 30-40w more than a 8600GT. Your power supply is adequate in power but in terms of quality, it's shit. I would go for a power supply first and maybe save up a little to get something better than a Radeon HD6770.
On February 09 2012 21:14 iTzSnypah wrote:+ Show Spoiler +So I'm wondering if I should OC my computer some more to increase lategame fps.
relevent comp info:
Intel Core 2 extreme X6800 @3.2Ghz (266*12) (2.93Ghz stock)
CoolerMaster hyper TX3 (only one i could find for LGA775 that looks like it works+was only $17)
MSI P35 Diamond
EVGA 9800 GTX
Corsair CX500 (regret not getting earthwatts 430, but this was on sale at time, and its a corsair...)
I ran Prime95 (albeit for only like 20mins) and my operating temps are between 43C (idle) and 55C (full load).
Oh and my 9800 GTX likes to stay at 63C...like always
Game settings:
All Medium, would play low but can't stand how ff's and pylon powering range looks (and im TERRAN Lolz) with the FPS cap thingy on (kind of pointless to have 180 fps at the start of the game when my monitor is only 60hz).
1280*1024 hp 17" 60hz using VGA because its that old (I've punched it twice while raging and it fixed a dead pixel.. wtf)
So i play the game with FPS shown on (ctrl+alt+f) and late game I drop off to ~45fps (1v1) and ~25 (3v3) in large battles.
Would OCing the computer to like 3.5-3.6 be worth the extra fps and how many fps do you think i would get?
Probably won't be significant.
On February 10 2012 06:55 brainox wrote:+ Show Spoiler +So today my Pc crashed completely and now i want to buy a new one. But for the first time i want to build it on my own. Started studying electrical engineering and thought it wouldnt hurt learning that^^. I am a little afraid to do something wrong and just throw my money away, so could anyone tell me if i am capable to do it by myself or do i need help?
Building a computer is equivalent to lego or assembling Ikea furniture (way easier than this imo). All the components only fit one way and the majority of cables also only fit one way so you would have to be a really big idiot to not understand this and apply a large amount of force to damage something. There are tons of videos online that guides you through the process. If you can't learn from watching than there's also written guides available and the manuals included in the box / can be found online as well can guide you through the installation process as well.
You just need a bit of time and confidence to do so. EE and ECE has nothing to do with assembling a computer (at least that's my perception of the program) since the majority of students that goes into and come out of the program doesn't have a clue about the consumer computer hardware or software.
On February 10 2012 07:16 Alryk wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Capstone 450W is sold out on newegg, can anybody recommend me a similar power supply with an i3 2100 and a 6770-6870 (somewhere in that range)?
Earthwatts: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371035
XFX: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207013
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On February 10 2012 07:16 Alryk wrote:
Capstone 450W is sold out on newegg, can anybody recommend me a similar power supply with an i3 2100 and a 6770-6870 (somewhere in that range)?
There's nothing similar to Capstone in terms of performance, unless you go significantly more expensive. Rosewill Green Series is maybe almost as quiet.
The two options skyR listed are good budget units but not particularly priced attractively. Silverstone Strider Essential 400W (ST40F-ES) is a little worse but okay if you want to go cheaper and not have to mess with adapters to power the graphics card.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256060
On February 10 2012 06:55 brainox wrote:
So today my Pc crashed completely and now i want to buy a new one. But for the first time i want to build it on my own. Started studying electrical engineering and thought it wouldnt hurt learning that^^. I am a little afraid to do something wrong and just throw my money away, so could anyone tell me if i am capable to do it by myself or do i need help?
As mentioned, it's easy and has little to do with EE. The only way you'll learn anything is if you really research the underlying CPU or GPU architectures, though you would have a better idea of what to buy just looking at benchmark numbers.
And on the flip side, hopefully you can tell things like (1) screwing the motherboard directly into a metal chassis (without using the standoffs) is a bad idea because this would short out lots of exposed joints on the back side and (2) a power switch can be connected to the motherboard in either orientation but an LED cannot since those actually need to be operated in the forward region for you to get light emitting from the diode.
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Thanks for the answers. Could you help me out getting the right gears? I am trying to build it myself with internet guides but i would appreciate your help. I used it mostly for gaming(just playing sc2 actually) no video editing etc.
Budget: max. 700 €(maybe 800 if there its really really nessacary)
Resolution: atm 1280*1024 but i will gonna buy a new monitor probably so maybe for: 1.920 x 1.080
Usage: Mostly gaming
Upgrade Cycle: 2+years
When: this or next month
Overclocking: no
Operating system: no edit: got Windows 7
No second GPU
I am living in Germany, gonna buy this stuff from local shops or german sites
I think i am gonna use my harddrive from my old Pc and my cd-drive
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On February 10 2012 06:55 brainox wrote:
So today my Pc crashed completely and now i want to buy a new one. But for the first time i want to build it on my own. Started studying electrical engineering and thought it wouldnt hurt learning that^^. I am a little afraid to do something wrong and just throw my money away, so could anyone tell me if i am capable to do it by myself or do i need help?
There are plenty of guides on the internet to help you out, and you'll find once you start that most of it really is just plugging things into the right slot. You will be fine.
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Ok, i think i might just be perfectly screwed...
I was streaming in 1080p localy as i do sometimes and my computer just shut down...
Can't get it restarted, nothing. just cpu fan moves very slightly for 0.1s.
It doesn't beep doesn't do anything, so i take it apart and noticed a bit of dust on the cpu fan, so i take it off to take it out easily, and, WTF happens to me, the cpu comes off STICKED to the fan, i haven't done naything since, i dunno what to do, impossible to put it back for obvious reasons....
Does warranty cover this sort of **** ???
edit : PSU is antec HCG 520w, CPU AMD phenom 2 x6 1090t not oc'd stock cooler and hd6870
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No one has laptop recommendations?
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Rachnar... you might be screwed, especially since the computer wasn't starting up before you pulled your CPU out, but since it might help let me share with you my own similar story.
I had an old Dell with an Athlon 64 x2. It was getting really loud, which is why I have my new computer (thanks everyone who helped me select components). I was trying to get access to the case fan (which blew directly on an otherwise passive CPU heatsink), but there was a plastic shroud in the way which directed the flow of the air and kept me from accessing anything.
I unscrewed all the screws I could find attached to the shroud, but it still seemed stuck on something. I assumed it was some plastic clip I couldn't see where it connected to the case fan housing, so I gave the shroud a good sharp tug.
*CRACK* out came the plastic shroud, the heatsink (unexpectedly screwed to the shroud in a way I couldn't see) and the CPU. (I dunno, the thermal paste was some sort of glue or something.) Well, of course I thought the computer was toast. But hell, it was night time and I didn't have anything else to do, so I took a look.
Two of the CPU's pins were bent, and during unsuccessful attempts to re-seat the processor I bent four more pins. Nevertheless, I unlocked the CPU socket (as I would have taking out the CPU normally), rebent the damaged pins back into place with the thin tip of a swiss army knife, finally reseated the CPU/heatsink/shroud assembly, rescrewed the shroud onto the case, and locked the CPU socket with the little arm thingy.
It worked. I couldn't believe it. Started up on the first try, just as if I'd never physically torn the CPU from the socket with brute force. Of course the computer still sounded like a jet engine, so I replaced it anyway. But I give credit to AMD for making a processor that's not totally fragile.
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Having an issue with the computer I built a while back. Im using the stock heatsink for the i5 and it is not making full contact with my cpu, the top part of it is raised slightly off of the processer. This causes even normal processes to lag and I'm scared to even turn the comp on at this point in fear of frying my processer. I will probably be purchasing a new heat sink soon but I was wondering if there is a temporary fix I could do till then? Or is there any way to tighten up the heatsink?
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If the heatsink is not making proper contact than that means you installed it incorrectly (didn't push hard enough for the pins to lock).
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Hey, everyone. Just stopping in to say thanks to everyone that helped me out to make my new comp. It's running great. SC2 looks sick on ultra graphics. Skyrim is really fun (and it runs smoothly). Thanks all!
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On February 10 2012 14:21 Cerumo wrote:
Having an issue with the computer I built a while back. Im using the stock heatsink for the i5 and it is not making full contact with my cpu, the top part of it is raised slightly off of the processer. This causes even normal processes to lag and I'm scared to even turn the comp on at this point in fear of frying my processer. I will probably be purchasing a new heat sink soon but I was wondering if there is a temporary fix I could do till then? Or is there any way to tighten up the heatsink?
99.999% chance the heatsink is perfectly fine. Take it out and look up how to properly seat it, and re install. The heatsink isn't the problem its how you installed it
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Major difference between a 5770 and a 6770? As far as I can tell there aren't really any. I can get a 5770 for 85$ MIR, and a 6770 for 99$ MIR, so I'm going with the 5770. Is this dumb?
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On February 10 2012 15:30 PleasureImWallace wrote:
Major difference between a 5770 and a 6770? As far as I can tell there aren't really any. I can get a 5770 for 85$ MIR, and a 6770 for 99$ MIR, so I'm going with the 5770. Is this dumb?
6770 is a rebrand of a 5770 with a few added features (nothing to do with gaming performance).
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On February 10 2012 15:30 PleasureImWallace wrote:
Major difference between a 5770 and a 6770? As far as I can tell there aren't really any. I can get a 5770 for 85$ MIR, and a 6770 for 99$ MIR, so I'm going with the 5770. Is this dumb?
They use the same chip with the same specs all around, so they're the same for gaming. It's a straight-up re-release or rebadge. I forget if there was some small increase in video decode features or something like that because of drivers on the HD 6770 that haven't been backported to the HD 5770, but I doubt you would care about that.
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On February 10 2012 14:50 feanor1 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2012 14:21 Cerumo wrote:
Having an issue with the computer I built a while back. Im using the stock heatsink for the i5 and it is not making full contact with my cpu, the top part of it is raised slightly off of the processer. This causes even normal processes to lag and I'm scared to even turn the comp on at this point in fear of frying my processer. I will probably be purchasing a new heat sink soon but I was wondering if there is a temporary fix I could do till then? Or is there any way to tighten up the heatsink? 99.999% chance the heatsink is perfectly fine. Take it out and look up how to properly seat it, and re install. The heatsink isn't the problem its how you installed it
Turns out one of the pins clamp thingys was bent, so it never properly clamped in. Pair of pliers and 10 minutes later comp is running better than ever! Thanks for the help!
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On February 10 2012 15:35 Myrmidon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2012 15:30 PleasureImWallace wrote:
Major difference between a 5770 and a 6770? As far as I can tell there aren't really any. I can get a 5770 for 85$ MIR, and a 6770 for 99$ MIR, so I'm going with the 5770. Is this dumb? They use the same chip with the same specs all around, so they're the same for gaming. It's a straight-up re-release or rebadge. I forget if there was some small increase in video decode features or something like that because of drivers on the HD 6770 that haven't been backported to the HD 5770, but I doubt you would care about that.
The HD6770 has HDMI 1.4. Nothing to care because a HD6770 is too weak to be doing 3D gaming anyway.
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On February 10 2012 16:43 Womwomwom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2012 15:35 Myrmidon wrote:On February 10 2012 15:30 PleasureImWallace wrote:
Major difference between a 5770 and a 6770? As far as I can tell there aren't really any. I can get a 5770 for 85$ MIR, and a 6770 for 99$ MIR, so I'm going with the 5770. Is this dumb? They use the same chip with the same specs all around, so they're the same for gaming. It's a straight-up re-release or rebadge. I forget if there was some small increase in video decode features or something like that because of drivers on the HD 6770 that haven't been backported to the HD 5770, but I doubt you would care about that. The HD6770 has HDMI 1.4. Nothing to care because a HD6770 is too weak to be doing 3D gaming anyway.
Oh yeah that was the main thing. I think it's possible to flash a HD 6770 BIOS on a HD 5770 and get all the HD 6770 features though.
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So apparently this chick in my block wants to sell her old PC and asked me to tell her in how much she could sell it. She is kinda hot so im using you guys knowledge to tell her eheh..
Core2duo 1.8 board intel dg 33 160HDD 19'monitor 500w psu
Its the entire thing, you know with a DVD burner, mouse, keyboard, speakers etc. Luckily things here are a bit mkore expensive so ill add a premium.
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On February 10 2012 18:20 oo_xerox wrote:
So apparently this chick in my block wants to sell her old PC and asked me to tell her in how much she could sell it. She is kinda hot so im using you guys knowledge to tell her eheh..
Core2duo 1.8 board intel dg 33 160HDD 19'monitor 500w psu
Its the entire thing, you know with a DVD burner, mouse, keyboard, speakers etc. Luckily things here are a bit mkore expensive so ill add a premium.
75-120 depending if the monitor is decent.
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Yeah well as i had nothing else to do i actually seperated finally the cpu and heatsink...
the cpu seems in no way damaged and i reseated it np.
Computer still won't boot though... guess it's the PSU that died.
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