EPTAlso micro stuttering has an issue with Vsync I believe, particularly in the presence of poorly optimized Multi GPU games. So its closer to a locked 60FPS that looks like 30.
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Medrea
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Also micro stuttering has an issue with Vsync I believe, particularly in the presence of poorly optimized Multi GPU games. So its closer to a locked 60FPS that looks like 30. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On December 23 2011 01:44 Gara wrote: What surprises me (reading the guru3d review of the 7970: http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-radeon-hd-7970-review/1) is how often CFX'd 6870s outperform or come close to the 7970, considering that two 6870s is only about $320 vs. the MSRP of $550 for the 7970. um that's how it always is. Just like a 450 dollar gtx 580 is crushed by crossfired 6850s that are like 250$ | ||
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Molybdenum
United States358 Posts
Pricing has leaked for ivy bridge (a few days ago) (http://www.techspot.com/news/46727-intel-ivy-bridge-desktop-chip-prices-leak.html or other sources) and everything is priced the same as its sandy bridge equivalent except the i5-2500k equivalent (i5-3570k) is $225, up $9 over sandy bridge i5-2500k at $216. So they aren't really raising prices except for a 5% increase on the unlocked i5. Not too bad, could be worse. Intel is also apparently dropping sandy bridge prices (http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20111221PD215.html) by 10-15%, but there aren't many details. Hopefully it drops desktop i3 and i5, but just some laptops are mentioned. What do you guys think, ivy bridge worth waiting for if sandy bridge prices drop? | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
5-15% higher performance or whatever isn't that big of a deal. Most games aren't that CPU limited, and they're not going to notice that performance difference in most tasks--on the other hand, they will notice having a new computer for an extra few months. | ||
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broz0rs
United States2294 Posts
On December 23 2011 02:06 Gara wrote: True... I guess other people have higher standards than me; personally, if I were playing at 120 fps, I don't think I would notice an occasional drop to 80 fps that often. If microstuttering is such an issue, then maybe SLI? It would still be vastly more economical, even if the GTX 560 is marginally more expensive than the 6870; SLI doesn't seem to suffer quite as much from micro-stuttering as Crossfire does. i'm currently debating between these two cards . which one would you guys recommend? | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
If it was Crossfire HD 6870s vs. HD 7970, then neither? If between those two, then the HD 7970 I guess. I'd almost always take the non-Crossfire option though, unless the cost is way less and that money saved means a lot. | ||
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broz0rs
United States2294 Posts
On December 23 2011 07:29 Myrmidon wrote: Which two (?) cards? It depends on your gaming screen resolution, what you want to do, if you apply AA/AF a lot, prefer top graphics settings or don't care as much, expect what kind of fps, etc. If it was Crossfire HD 6870s vs. HD 7970, then neither? If between those two, then the HD 7970 I guess. I'd almost always take the non-Crossfire option though, unless the cost is way less and that money saved means a lot. sorry for the unclear message. i'm choosing between the 6870 and the 560 to work with an i5-2500k. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
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Ata
Canada356 Posts
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GreyCone
United States42 Posts
I want to get a new Xmas setup for my dad who does trading. I'd like to get him something that can support 3-4 monitors. Can anyone recommend a good rig for this purpose and maybe some decent monitors? I'd say the budget is around $1500 or so. The system doesn't have to be unnecessarily high-end. I would put more effort into building one, but since I'm only in town with them for the holidays, I don't have a whole lot of time. Do I need something with multiple video cards? | ||
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Gortakom
United States17 Posts
Friend of mine was looking to get a few new parts for his PC and knew how much you guys helped me when I was building my own. He asked me to post this message (he doesn't have a TL account) to see what your thoughts are - any feedback is much appreciated: Newer 6GB DDR3 1600 RAM, SATA I/II SSD, Hardrives, and DVDRW will be taken from old system Functional ATI 4870 1GB GDDR5 RAM and core i7 920 will be used as well to save on cost I'll probably add an extra 120mm fan or two to the case as needed. Antec TWO HUNDRED S Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129074 OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W Modular High http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341016 EVGA 131-GT-E767-TR LGA 1366 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188068 COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065 | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On December 23 2011 08:12 GreyCone wrote: I didn't want to make a new thread for this, so I'll use this one. I want to get a new Xmas setup for my dad who does trading. I'd like to get him something that can support 3-4 monitors. Can anyone recommend a good rig for this purpose and maybe some decent monitors? I'd say the budget is around $1500 or so. The system doesn't have to be unnecessarily high-end. I would put more effort into building one, but since I'm only in town with them for the holidays, I don't have a whole lot of time. Do I need something with multiple video cards? With that kind of budget, I'd consider just getting like a business workstation from like Dell, Lenovo, etc. If you want to build it, I'd get something like a Core i5-2400, H67 (or Z68) motherboard, 2 x 4GB DDR3 RAM, an HD 6570 or similar video card, etc. The integrated graphics on Sandy Bridge can handle two monitors, while a modern AMD video card can handle three more monitors (but one has to be through a DisplayPort interface; otherwise, just two). Definitely get a decent SSD for the system. On December 23 2011 08:52 Gortakom wrote: Hello TL Tech Thread, Friend of mine was looking to get a few new parts for his PC and knew how much you guys helped me when I was building my own. He asked me to post this message (he doesn't have a TL account) to see what your thoughts are - any feedback is much appreciated: Newer 6GB DDR3 1600 RAM, SATA I/II SSD, Hardrives, and DVDRW will be taken from old system Functional ATI 4870 1GB GDDR5 RAM and core i7 920 will be used as well to save on cost I'll probably add an extra 120mm fan or two to the case as needed. Antec TWO HUNDRED S Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129074 OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W Modular High http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341016 EVGA 131-GT-E767-TR LGA 1366 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188068 COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065 Case is okay, but HAF 912 is significantly better for a similar price, a great value at $50 if you don't mind the looks. Modular low-wattage power supplies don't make much sense to me because at worst you'd have like one strand of molex and one strand of SATA connectors go unused in a non-modular power supply? With these huge ATX towers, there's plenty of space for a couple of strands to go, honestly...OCZ ModXStream Pro is okay but not great. The 500W model may not be powerful enough for such a configuration long term, if he overclocks. I highly recommend getting the Rosewill Capstone 450W for $65, since it's a top-quality unit of better performance and construction than many $100+ stuff: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066 The unit can do much more than 450W btw, and certainly more than the ModXStream Pro safely. Considering that we're looking at a Core i7-920, which is a lot lot more power hungry than Sandy Bridge, I'd consider the slightly better and expensive Zalman CNPS10X Performa instead, but the Hyper 212 is fine and also supports two fans if needed. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118059 edit: that's of course assuming that the CPU will be overclocked. | ||
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Nikentic
Sweden51 Posts
I've gathered these parts for a streaming computer of mine. How good would it do with a 1080p stream with sc2 or skyrim? http://www.inet.se/kundvagn/visa/1271866/2011-12-23 | ||
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Gortakom
United States17 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On December 23 2011 11:29 Gortakom wrote: Ok That friend of mine tested his system and he needs a new power supply. He's looking for a decent PSU in the 550watt range but due to his current case can not use one that has a top fan. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. What is your budget... and please explain why you can't use a power supply with an intake fan? If case airflow is really that bad, shouldn't you be fixing that as well? Good units include but not limited to Rosewill Capstone 450, Antec High Current Gamer 520, Antec Earthwatts 500D, Antec Neo Eco 520C, Seasonic S12II 520, and XFX Core Edition 550 - all of which are around $50 to $80. | ||
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Gortakom
United States17 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
There's not much under $60 that's of decent quality, in the 500W range. Antec High Current Gamer 520W (as already suggested) -- $58 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=56787&promoid=1314 A little cheaper, weaker, and worse but reasonably good is the Corsair CX500 V2 -- $49.99 (may have to add something to get the order up to $50 for free shipping?) http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60329&promoid=1314 Way better than the other two is the Rosewill Capstone 450W -- $65 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066 I'd not get the Corsair CX500 V2 if he's really packing a lot of hardware that needs close to 500W, considering that the power supply is intaking hot air from inside the case. I'd prefer a power supply with more robust components and design in that configuration. That's just thinking long term though--it's not a huge deal. | ||
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Gortakom
United States17 Posts
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BossPlaya
United States141 Posts
Overclocked 955 black edition 8 gigs of 2200mhz ram intel ssd with a seagate hybrid data drive radeon 5570 600w ocz psu thermaltake armor a60 case 450 sound like a decent price? | ||
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