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TempusDESU
Australia87 Posts
I'm going to use the computer to play games on, and I have a monitor (1080p) already. I can get peripherals later, but if there is money left over, it would be good to fit them in. Thanks | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On December 23 2011 14:01 BossPlaya wrote: Buddy of mine is selling his desktop that I might be interested in: Overclocked 955 black edition 8 gigs of 2200mhz ram intel ssd with a seagate hybrid data drive radeon 5570 600w ocz psu thermaltake armor a60 case 450 sound like a decent price? Most of the value is from the Intel SSD and Seagate Momentus XT though (actually, which Intel SSD? I'm going to guess X25-M G2, which is fine but definitely not the performance king anymore). Realistically you could get the same gaming performance or better with a $450 budget (not including OS), but it would be without the expensive drives and with a cheaper case, no aftermarket heatsink, possibly a motherboard with less features, etc. If you don't care about any of those perks or extras and don't need an OS, you're probably better off building your own, but that price is pretty fair to me if you want those things. If you're planning on using it for gaming and want to play games on settings higher than low or possibly medium, you're going to have to replace the HD 5570 though. If the HD 5570 is worthless to you, then the package is even less appealing. On December 23 2011 15:55 TempusDESU wrote: Hey TL, I need your help. In a few days, I'm going to have $1050 to spend on a new computer. I am not confident enough to make my own build, so if anyone could please make me a build from pccasegear, that would be great I'm going to use the computer to play games on, and I have a monitor (1080p) already. I can get peripherals later, but if there is money left over, it would be good to fit them in. Thanks Wait a sec. | ||
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SleepTech
United States222 Posts
On December 23 2011 15:55 TempusDESU wrote: Hey TL, I need your help. In a few days, I'm going to have $1050 to spend on a new computer. I am not confident enough to make my own build, so if anyone could please make me a build from pccasegear, that would be great I'm going to use the computer to play games on, and I have a monitor (1080p) already. I can get peripherals later, but if there is money left over, it would be good to fit them in. Thanks You don't give very much information to go on... You basically want an i5-2300 and an H61 or H67 MB for non overclocking, get 2 sticks of 4gb RAM, SSD for OS, 500GB HD, 450 - 550w power supply depending on site prices, and a 560ti and you'll be good. You can read the last few pages from this thread to get an idea of what you're looking at. Motherboard Asrock H61 - $55 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=138_711_1183&products_id=18337 Processor i5-2320 - $200 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=187_346_1184&products_id=18947 SSD Crucial M4 64GB - $140 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=210_902_1247&products_id=17684 HDD Western Digital Green 1TB - $110 - That site isn't all that great with HDDs http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=210_344&products_id=17711 G.Skill RAM 2x4GB - $40 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=186_538_913&products_id=16930 Power Supply - Antec Neo Eco 450w - $60 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_535&products_id=13454 Graphics Card - MSI Twin Frozr 560ti - $255 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_1193&products_id=16578 That comes to a total of $860 which leaves room for a new case and/or OS if you need it. I'm sure someone else can do better but it's something to go off of. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
That's missing an optical drive as well, but if you have a SATA optical drive lying around, you could reuse that. The motherboard only comes with two SATA cables and you'll need three for this build. http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=658_667&products_id=17348 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=18093 Also the above H61 motherboard doesn't support SATA3, which the SSD needs to run faster. You can run it on a SATA2 port, but that kind of seems like a waste. An H67, P67, or Z68 motherboard would have SATA3 natively; if you want to go cheaper, the H61M/U3S3 uses a 3rd party controller, which is a little worse, but it's not a big deal. http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=138_711_1183&products_id=16897 I'd consider an HIS HD 6950 IceQ for $15 less than the MSI Twin Frozr II GTX 560 Ti, but it's not a huge deal either way. http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_877&products_id=18197 | ||
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TempusDESU
Australia87 Posts
On December 23 2011 16:19 SleepTech wrote: You don't give very much information to go on... Well, I just want the best tech I can buy with the available money to play games with. I don't wanna stream or encode or anything like that, just for gaming. Also, is there any reason why I should wait to buy? And as I said, I already have a monitor/peripherals. Could use a better keyboard though. I wish I knew more about this stuff... | ||
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SleepTech
United States222 Posts
You could also go with a better graphics card if you want. EDIT*** Go back and read the last 100 or so pages of this thread and you'll gain HUGE insights into building a computer. I didn't know much of anything when I first started searching for parts. I learned a great amount of knowledge from posters like Skyr, Myrmidon, WomWom and a few others and a month ago, I build my own computer with parts they suggested. Everything was pretty much plug and play and it wasn't near as daunting as I thought it'd be. I watched the Newegg How to build a computer videos and that gave great insight into what the parts were and what they looked like and where to put them. I am no techno wizard like the above posters are but they have taught me quite a bit. I watched this thread for about 3 months before I actually purchased my computer parts. So I had good sources to go from and an idea of what to get. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/7970/Pages/radeon-7970.aspx#1 Mining is officially a bullet point of the series now. Sounds like curtains for 5xxx series. I am gonna have to offload all of my shit for whatever 7xxx series is the best cost/hash/consumption now. | ||
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ensign_lee
United States1178 Posts
On December 23 2011 22:20 Medrea wrote: Whelp. http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/7970/Pages/radeon-7970.aspx#1 Mining is officially a bullet point of the series now. Sounds like curtains for 5xxx series. I am gonna have to offload all of my shit for whatever 7xxx series is the best cost/hash/consumption now. I don't see anything there that relates to mining? Plus, how are you going to beat the price/performance of a 5870 for mining vs a 7970? I saw new 5870s on sale at Ben's for $140 yesterday. That gives you like 400 mhash/sec. You can't beat that, either for hash/watt or hash/money initially spent for equipment. Considering that the 7970 costs $550, it would have to mine at something ridiculous like 1600 mhash/sec for it to even make sense to mine on it instead of a 5870. | ||
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Rachnar
France1526 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On December 23 2011 22:44 ensign_lee wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On December 23 2011 22:20 Medrea wrote: Whelp. http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/7970/Pages/radeon-7970.aspx#1 Mining is officially a bullet point of the series now. Sounds like curtains for 5xxx series. I am gonna have to offload all of my shit for whatever 7xxx series is the best cost/hash/consumption now. I don't see anything there that relates to mining? Plus, how are you going to beat the price/performance of a 5870 for mining vs a 7970? I saw new 5870s on sale at Ben's for $140 yesterday. That gives you like 400 mhash/sec. You can't beat that, either for hash/watt or hash/money initially spent for equipment. Considering that the 7970 costs $550, it would have to has at something ridiculous like 1600 mhash/sec for it to even make sense to mine on it instead of a 5870. It's the second last bullet point: "Fold and mine faster than ever with ..." On December 23 2011 23:17 Rachnar wrote: Stupid question : what is mining? http://bitcoin.org/ | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On December 23 2011 22:44 ensign_lee wrote: I don't see anything there that relates to mining? Plus, how are you going to beat the price/performance of a 5870 for mining vs a 7970? I saw new 5870s on sale at Ben's for $140 yesterday. That gives you like 400 mhash/sec. You can't beat that, either for hash/watt or hash/money initially spent for equipment. Considering that the 7970 costs $550, it would have to has at something ridiculous like 1600 mhash/sec for it to even make sense to mine on it instead of a 5870. + Show Spoiler + Fifth bullet point. I never stated 7970 was the next mining card. Sorry if I implied that. For a long time 5870's were very rare so my entire setup isn't all 5870's. And yeah obviously you would get rid of 5870's last. I have a feeling that the 7870 is going to hold the sweet spot for a long time and then later the 7950's. No idea if they are coming out with a 7770, or at least what it will look like. And you have to consider consumption per hash plus the cost of hardware required to actually hold the unit. Thats a PSU, a motherboard, a processor, and some RAM. As well as some form of enclosure solution. These all cost money. It's not as easy as dollar on card per hash. I am still working on an 8 GPU single setup since AMD recently patched in the ability for Windows to recognize 8 GPU cores, default is 4. But I cant be certain it works right since data is limited and boards that have the capability to support 8 are rare and expensive and so on. At the moment I am using ASrock pro3 SE's to fit 4 GPU's each on. 1 on each PCI-e x16 lane and 1 on each x1 minislot. You would sell off 5830's, then 5850's. Then it is sort of a tossup between 5770's and 5870's. 5770's dont hash a lot but are the most efficient. Ill have to cross that bridge eventually. EDIT: Oh and heat. Heat. Oh man is heat a concern. My personal computer alone with 2 cards is enough to heat my room to room temperature (68F) when it is 32F outside. It is nice being able to heat my entire apartment though. My heating bill is $0 this year so far. All i pay for is the gas I use to cook my food. Gonna spoil since wall of text | ||
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TrivialRiot
United States27 Posts
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beefhamburger
United States3962 Posts
http://www.newegg.com/Special/ShellShocker.aspx?cm_sp=ShellShocker-_-20-220-570-_-12232011_1 | ||
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Josh_rakoons
United Kingdom1158 Posts
On December 24 2011 02:42 beefhamburger wrote: Good deal today - $20 for 8 gb of ram at newegg http://www.newegg.com/Special/ShellShocker.aspx?cm_sp=ShellShocker-_-20-220-570-_-12232011_1 thats not RAM | ||
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Rachnar
France1526 Posts
learn to search | ||
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Josh_rakoons
United Kingdom1158 Posts
No need for the aggressive comment, i merely made a small mistake, linking straight to a page that shows a wireless router WITH ram is not the most clear way of presenting it honestly. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Earlier in the day, when it was linked, the RAM was the first thing on the page. On a side note, it's only $20 after mail-in rebate, so it's not that amazing a deal and hence why it's not sold out yet. | ||
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broz0rs
United States2294 Posts
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Solid-State-Drive-SDSSDH-120G-G25/dp/B005F30IJK/ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820171545 | ||
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Josh_rakoons
United Kingdom1158 Posts
On December 24 2011 06:15 Myrmidon wrote: A mistake is fine, but when you start first by incorrectly criticizing somebody else, you should be the one apologizing. If this is going to be your attitude, get out. Earlier in the day, when it was linked, the RAM was the first thing on the page. On a side note, it's only $20 after mail-in rebate, so it's not that amazing a deal and hence why it's not sold out yet. When did i criticize anybody? I'll gladly apologize for any criticism that was unfortunately portrayed in my comment as it was not meant as such, but i will not apologize for making a simple mistake as i am human and mistakes are guaranteed, especially from me :D. Thanks for understanding . | ||
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ensign_lee
United States1178 Posts
On December 24 2011 06:52 Josh_rakoons wrote: When did i criticize anybody? I'll gladly apologize for any criticism that was unfortunately portrayed in my comment as it was not meant as such, but i will not apologize for making a simple mistake as i am human and mistakes are guaranteed, especially from me :D. Thanks for understanding .Saying "that's not RAM" is pretty mean spirited usually. The subtext is "you're an idiot. Why did you waste my time with an invalid link." That is why you were perceived as being rude. | ||
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