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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
December 23 2011 23:02 GMT
#16441
On December 24 2011 07:53 ensign_lee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 06:52 Josh_rakoons wrote:
On December 24 2011 06:15 Myrmidon wrote:
A mistake is fine, but when you start first by incorrectly criticizing somebody else, you should be the one apologizing. If this is going to be your attitude, get out.

Earlier in the day, when it was linked, the RAM was the first thing on the page.

On a side note, it's only $20 after mail-in rebate, so it's not that amazing a deal and hence why it's not sold out yet.

When did i criticize anybody? I'll gladly apologize for any criticism that was unfortunately portrayed in my comment as it was not meant as such, but i will not apologize for making a simple mistake as i am human and mistakes are guaranteed, especially from me :D. Thanks for understanding .


Saying "that's not RAM" is pretty mean spirited usually. The subtext is "you're an idiot. Why did you waste my time with an invalid link."

That is why you were perceived as being rude.

That's the trouble with the internet i guess, i never meant it as an offensive remark, just in a more guiding, helpful manner, maybe i didn't portray it correctly, idk.... I can see exactly where you are both coming from.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
December 24 2011 00:38 GMT
#16442
I wouldn't worry about it.

Realize Rachnar responded to your 3 word comment, with another 3 word comment. You assuming his comment was aggressive is very ironic considering he was mirroring you. Yet no hard feelings were meant anywhere.
twitch.tv/medrea
Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
December 24 2011 01:36 GMT
#16443
You make a good point. I apologize.
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
December 24 2011 01:51 GMT
#16444
^__^
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
December 24 2011 02:04 GMT
#16445
On December 24 2011 10:51 mahnini wrote:
^__^

Did i do something wrong again?
lemonwood
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada7 Posts
December 24 2011 02:10 GMT
#16446
Hello

I very new and scared about building computers. I'm scare because my friends had sooo many problems with building one before. I think I could put one together but I have no idea what to buy ( A bit after reading the 1st post)

I have around $1000 Cnd available to build a computer. I don't want top of the line stuff but I do want to run Witcher 2, Skyrim and Rage on max or at least high. Maybe not the best games to set a standard, but hopefully that would help. I already have a Nice mouse, keyboard and monitor, so I'm just building the tower.

If someone could give me a build for a Canadian shopper that be great also, unless you think buying from the USA would give me a better deal.

Thanks in advance
My PC sucks
Cerumo
Profile Joined December 2009
United States40 Posts
December 24 2011 02:17 GMT
#16447
Got a final build ready, was looking to make sure everything will work together. I have a heat sink, but if If anyone could suggest one for ~40$ ill buy a new one.

Case - Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - 50$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153

CPU and Mobo - Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GH/MSI P67A-C43 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard 315$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.777266

GPU - SAPPHIRE 100314-3L Radeon HD 6870 1GB - 165$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948

PSU - Rosewill CAPSTONE Series CAPSTONE-450 450W - 64$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066

RAM - CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 - 47$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820233144

HD - Seagate DB35 ST3300831SCE 300GB 7200 RPM - 57$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148854

DVD Burner - Sony Optiarc 24X DVD Burner - 20$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118067

Comes to a grand total of 718$. Looking to order and build just after Christmas. If anyone has any suggestions to save some cash, or changes that need to be made that would be great!
Iwinulose
lemonwood
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada7 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-24 02:26:57
December 24 2011 02:23 GMT
#16448
On December 24 2011 11:17 Cerumo wrote:
Got a final build ready, was looking to make sure everything will work together. I have a heat sink, but if If anyone could suggest one for ~40$ ill buy a new one.

Case - Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - 50$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153

CPU and Mobo - Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GH/MSI P67A-C43 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard 315$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.777266

GPU - SAPPHIRE 100314-3L Radeon HD 6870 1GB - 165$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948

PSU - Rosewill CAPSTONE Series CAPSTONE-450 450W - 64$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066

RAM - CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 - 47$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820233144

HD - Seagate DB35 ST3300831SCE 300GB 7200 RPM - 57$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148854

DVD Burner - Sony Optiarc 24X DVD Burner - 20$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118067

Comes to a grand total of 718$. Looking to order and build just after Christmas. If anyone has any suggestions to save some cash, or changes that need to be made that would be great!


I think you just answer my question by asking yours Unless someone has a Canadian version of this :/
My PC sucks
dizzee
Profile Joined November 2011
Norway36 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-24 02:38:30
December 24 2011 02:24 GMT
#16449
Hello! I am looking to upgrade my desktop in the coming post-christmas sales.

These are my current specs:

Wireless Network Card:
-None, had one, it broke. Please suggest one.

GPU:
- ATI Radeon 4850 HD

RAM:
- 2GB Gigabyte Value-Pack Ram.

CPU:
- Intel Duo Core E8400 3.00/3.00 GHz

Motherboard:
- Gigabyte EP35-DS3R

Harddrive:
- WDC WD5000AAKS-00A7B0

Please suggest upgrades. Like what parts i should upgrade and give me suggestions.

I don't need links to specific offers on various websites, as i will be buying from Norwegian sites due to extreme import taxes.

I have about 750$ to spend.

Edit: What am i expecting? I have 750$ to spend on new parts, and i wanted suggestions as to which parts i should buy, as i'm clueless myself

Know that you do enjoy your life, and that life is a year-long cycle in which after winter, summer always arrives.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
December 24 2011 02:30 GMT
#16450
@Cerumo Cooler Master Hyper 212+

@dizzee In order to give you good suggestions we need to know what you are expecting. That computer isn't all that old. 2 GB of RAM is a little tight maybe but that is about it honestly.
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 24 2011 02:46 GMT
#16451
On December 24 2011 11:17 Cerumo wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Got a final build ready, was looking to make sure everything will work together. I have a heat sink, but if If anyone could suggest one for ~40$ ill buy a new one.

Case - Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - 50$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153

CPU and Mobo - Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GH/MSI P67A-C43 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard 315$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.777266

GPU - SAPPHIRE 100314-3L Radeon HD 6870 1GB - 165$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948

PSU - Rosewill CAPSTONE Series CAPSTONE-450 450W - 64$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066

RAM - CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 - 47$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820233144

HD - Seagate DB35 ST3300831SCE 300GB 7200 RPM - 57$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148854

DVD Burner - Sony Optiarc 24X DVD Burner - 20$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118067

Comes to a grand total of 718$. Looking to order and build just after Christmas. If anyone has any suggestions to save some cash, or changes that need to be made that would be great!


Get these Vengeance instead: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145345

Get this for your DVD burner instead: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151244

On December 24 2011 11:23 lemonwood wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On December 24 2011 11:17 Cerumo wrote:
Got a final build ready, was looking to make sure everything will work together. I have a heat sink, but if If anyone could suggest one for ~40$ ill buy a new one.

Case - Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - 50$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153

CPU and Mobo - Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GH/MSI P67A-C43 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard 315$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.777266

GPU - SAPPHIRE 100314-3L Radeon HD 6870 1GB - 165$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948

PSU - Rosewill CAPSTONE Series CAPSTONE-450 450W - 64$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066

RAM - CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 - 47$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820233144

HD - Seagate DB35 ST3300831SCE 300GB 7200 RPM - 57$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148854

DVD Burner - Sony Optiarc 24X DVD Burner - 20$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118067

Comes to a grand total of 718$. Looking to order and build just after Christmas. If anyone has any suggestions to save some cash, or changes that need to be made that would be great!


I think you just answer my question by asking yours Unless someone has a Canadian version of this :/


When are you building? Boxing day or sometime after... Are you going to be overclocking or not? What is your resolution?

Newegg sucks for Canadians and most of those components suck in Canada as well.

Rosewill is a Newegg brand so that case and power supply won't be available in Canada.
Drmooose
Profile Joined March 2011
United States390 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-24 03:00:03
December 24 2011 02:58 GMT
#16452
After a few weeks of waiting I bought my GPU and am near complete with my build. Instead of giving in to the high prices of HDD I decided to take out a HDD I had from an older build. Before I just plug it in and let it go I figured I would check if there was anything important I should do or if I can just reformat it once I plug it in. (The HDD is nearly empty...still has Vista on it though so I wasn't sure if my PC would auto select 7 from my SSD or if I needed to do some precautionary measures.)

Thanks as always!

**edit I forgot to list both drives are Sata so I think I'm ok just want to 2x check
I have a question...
KonohaFlash
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1590 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-24 03:53:17
December 24 2011 03:49 GMT
#16453
Alright so i'm looking to upgrade my processor(If necessary) and my video card. I know for a fact the video card is complete and utter garbage for gaming(Radeon 6450).
What' i'm looking for is to play Starcraft 2 in Ultra settings at 1680x1050 as well as SWTOR maxed out. Now for SWTOR I'm thinking i'm going to need to upgrade my processor for sure.

The processor i'm currently using is the Intel Core 2 E6420@2.13ghz(motherboard socket 775) which is decent, but I could probably get something better for a cheap price. I don't plan on upgrading the motherboard.

The processors i'm looking at are here: http://ncix.com/products/index.php?minorcatid=106&subminorcatid=26
As for the video card i'm thinking I should wait for these guys: http://source.ncix.com/lp4/ca/zotac_boxing_week_deal/index.html

How do you guys think I should go about upgrading these components? My budget for the processor is $100-$300 and for the video card $200-300.
Thanks!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-24 04:01:42
December 24 2011 04:00 GMT
#16454
You don't want to buy four year old processors. $300 can get you a core i5 2400 or similar, h61 motherboard, and 8gb of ddr3. It's smart to wait for boxing day for these components. As for the graphics card, you'll want a Radeon 6850 or bette
KonohaFlash
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1590 Posts
December 24 2011 04:15 GMT
#16455
On December 24 2011 13:00 skyR wrote:
You don't want to buy four year old processors. $300 can get you a core i5 2400 or similar, h61 motherboard, and 8gb of ddr3. It's smart to wait for boxing day for these components. As for the graphics card, you'll want a Radeon 6850 or bette

Haha alright. Thanks as always skyr!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 24 2011 04:43 GMT
#16456
On December 24 2011 11:58 Drmooose wrote:
After a few weeks of waiting I bought my GPU and am near complete with my build. Instead of giving in to the high prices of HDD I decided to take out a HDD I had from an older build. Before I just plug it in and let it go I figured I would check if there was anything important I should do or if I can just reformat it once I plug it in. (The HDD is nearly empty...still has Vista on it though so I wasn't sure if my PC would auto select 7 from my SSD or if I needed to do some precautionary measures.)

Thanks as always!

**edit I forgot to list both drives are Sata so I think I'm ok just want to 2x check


You need to set boot priority to your SSD first in your BIOS or you'll be given the option to select whether to boot Windows 7 or Windows Vista.

You can format the HDD once you're in Windows or just leave it as is if you wish.
-bambi-
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada11 Posts
December 24 2011 06:20 GMT
#16457
Hey Guys,

I'm looking into building a system in the next month or so, and hoping to take advantage of some of the upcoming boxing day sales. I currently own a laptop (i7 Q720, HD 5470 graphics, 6G ram) and I was looking at something that would be better for gaming, and just faster overall. I'll be using it mainly for games/school, which would include things like 3D drafting and some photoshop on the school side, and starcraft/skyrim/other games on the gaming side. I'll admit I don't know much about building PCs, but I've tried to do as much research as possible in the last couple of weeks.

I was wondering if anyone here would be able to give me some advice with my build, since I'm unsure where to go from here.
Here are the answers to questions on the first page of this thread:

Budget - $1000-1200
I'm not really sure what this will include. As I'm going from a laptop I'll need keyboard and monitor. I'd like a mouse, but I have an old one at the moment that will do for now.
Resolution - I don't really know. Since I'm buying a monitor it can be whatever really. I'd prefer 1920x1080.
Uses - As I mentioned above, gaming, 3D drafting, photoshop.
Upgrade Cycle - I'd like to make something that will last a while, maybe around 3 years. Not too sure what is normal here.
When to build - Anytime soon. I'll be on a work term in the spring, so no classes to get in the way of building and enjoying a new computer.
Overclocking - Again, not sure what I should answer here. If overclocking will make a noticeable difference in performance, then yes. If it doesn't increase the price by too much, then I think I'd do it anyways since I've always been curious about overclocking.
OS - I have a key for Win 7.
SLI - I'm not too worried about SLI right now, but if I do a build with a longer upgrade cycle, it might be worth it so I can upgrade in the future.
Where am I buying - NCIX. I'm in Canada, and live near one so I don't need to worry about shipping.

With all this in mind, here's what I have so far:

CPU - 2500k
MBO - not too sure but probably z68/p67
GPU - nVidia GTX 560 ti
8G DDR3 ram.

Things I am not sure about:
Case - I'm not picky, but I wasn't sure about full/mid size.
HDD - Don't need a huge one, I never seem to need much storage.
SSD - Is it worth it?
CPU cooler - I'll need one if I'm overclocking, but I don't know what's good.

If anyone would like to give me some advice, it would be much appreciated.
The things I've picked aren't set in stone or anything, it's just what I thought
would fit my build best.

Cheers

p.s. sorry for the long post
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-24 07:50:41
December 24 2011 07:34 GMT
#16458
On December 24 2011 15:20 -bambi- wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hey Guys,

I'm looking into building a system in the next month or so, and hoping to take advantage of some of the upcoming boxing day sales. I currently own a laptop (i7 Q720, HD 5470 graphics, 6G ram) and I was looking at something that would be better for gaming, and just faster overall. I'll be using it mainly for games/school, which would include things like 3D drafting and some photoshop on the school side, and starcraft/skyrim/other games on the gaming side. I'll admit I don't know much about building PCs, but I've tried to do as much research as possible in the last couple of weeks.

I was wondering if anyone here would be able to give me some advice with my build, since I'm unsure where to go from here.
Here are the answers to questions on the first page of this thread:

Budget - $1000-1200
I'm not really sure what this will include. As I'm going from a laptop I'll need keyboard and monitor. I'd like a mouse, but I have an old one at the moment that will do for now.
Resolution - I don't really know. Since I'm buying a monitor it can be whatever really. I'd prefer 1920x1080.
Uses - As I mentioned above, gaming, 3D drafting, photoshop.
Upgrade Cycle - I'd like to make something that will last a while, maybe around 3 years. Not too sure what is normal here.
When to build - Anytime soon. I'll be on a work term in the spring, so no classes to get in the way of building and enjoying a new computer.
Overclocking - Again, not sure what I should answer here. If overclocking will make a noticeable difference in performance, then yes. If it doesn't increase the price by too much, then I think I'd do it anyways since I've always been curious about overclocking.
OS - I have a key for Win 7.
SLI - I'm not too worried about SLI right now, but if I do a build with a longer upgrade cycle, it might be worth it so I can upgrade in the future.
Where am I buying - NCIX. I'm in Canada, and live near one so I don't need to worry about shipping.

With all this in mind, here's what I have so far:

CPU - 2500k
MBO - not too sure but probably z68/p67
GPU - nVidia GTX 560 ti
8G DDR3 ram.

Things I am not sure about:
Case - I'm not picky, but I wasn't sure about full/mid size.
HDD - Don't need a huge one, I never seem to need much storage.
SSD - Is it worth it?
CPU cooler - I'll need one if I'm overclocking, but I don't know what's good.

If anyone would like to give me some advice, it would be much appreciated.
The things I've picked aren't set in stone or anything, it's just what I thought
would fit my build best.

Cheers

p.s. sorry for the long post



You'll want an Intel Core i5 2500k. This will be around $200.

There will most likely be bundle deals as well with the processor. You don't want a high-end motherboard because you are never going to fully utilize what it offers so stay away from GD80, EVO, Deluxe, Maximus, Rampage, and UD7 suffixes. You're basically looking at a $120-$160 board from ASUS, MSI, or Gigabyte. You want to avoid MSI C series, ASUS LE and LX suffixes, and avoid Gigabyte altogether (unless there is a SUPER SUPER deal (lol who am i kidding)). If you want SLi as a future upgrade path than ensure the board supports it which include but not limited to MSI P67 G43 / G45, P67 GD55 / G65, Z68 GD55, ASUS P8P67 Pro, P8Z68-V, and so on.

The GTX 560 Ti will be around $230. If you want lifetime warranty, you'll want an EVGA with an -AR suffix. If you want good heatsinks than the MSI Twin Frozr II / III, ASUS DirectCu II, and Gigabyte Windforce. If you don't care about any of this than any brand is fine. Zotac is suppose to have some good deals.

2x4gb of memory will be around $35, just pick up any 1333MHz cas9 or 1600MHz for under $40.

Power supply, you'll want a ~500w unit for a single graphics card configuration and a ~650w unit for a SLI configuration. Good units include but not limited to PC Power & Cooling Silencer MK III, Corsair TX v2 / TX M / AX, Antec Earthwatts / High Current Gamer, Seasonic S12II / M12II / X, and XFX Core Edition. Most of everything else, I'd avoid. A 650w unit will be around $70-$120 depending on which you pick (the lower priced ones will be the Antec High Current Gamer, Earthwatts, XFX Core Edition, Seasonic S12II because they're not modular. the more expensive ones will be the Corsair AX and Seasonic X because they're 80+ Gold and fully modular. The rest are inbetween because of their brand name or being semi modular.)

You don't need and probably won't want a full size case since it's gigantic. Any mid sized tower that is to your liking is fine. Good ones that may go on sale include but not limited to Coolermaster 690ii Advanced, Antec P183, Antec P280, Fractal Design Define R3, Corsair 600T, and so on. Should be about $80 to $120 for these cases. If you're not picky and want a less expensive case so you can allocate funds elsewhere, you can just pick up a Coolermaster HAF 912 for around $50.

SSD is worth it. The Intel 320 series SSDs aren't the fastest on the market but they carry a five year warranty and is well regarded in stability. It'll still be blazing fast comapred to your traditional HDD. They'll be on sale again with the rebate (just like Black Friday) so it's going to be less than a $ per gb. Sandforce SSDs such as the Vertex 3 and Kingston HyperX will go on sale but I can't recommend them.

DVD burner is going to be $10.

HDDs, just pick a Caviar Green, Caviar Blue, or Seagate Barracuda.

Heatsink, inexpensive one would be Coolermaster Hyper 212+ which usually goes for $23. You'll probably be able to find a Corsair A70 or Noctua NH-U12 on sale for around $30 / $40 respectively.

You either want the Dell U2312HM which is on sale for $200 (regular price is $319) or a 120Hz monitor. Please do not get a shitty TN monitor for $100 unless you don't value the screen you stare at for hours on end at all. The U2410 is also on sale for $419 (regular price is $549) if you want a better IPS panel than the U231HM for colour critical work.

Overclocking is well within your budget even without boxing day deals. The difference in overclocking can be seen here for the 2500k and various other processors as well: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i7-2600k-990x_9.html#sect0
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Canada11 Posts
December 24 2011 07:51 GMT
#16459
Thanks so much!

Just a couple more questions:

I feel like this might be a stupid question, but I would be installing my OS on the SSD to make the most of it, right?
Also, where did you see the U2312HM on sale? I can't see it on NCIX, and it's $300 on Dell's site.

This helps a lot. Hopefully I can start ordering/building when I get back home next week.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 24 2011 07:55 GMT
#16460
Yes, you should install the operating system and your most frequently used programs on the SSD.

http://accessories.dell.com/sna/sna.aspx?c=ca&cs=cadhs1&s=dhs&~topic=eandapromotion

direct link to U2312HM: http://accessories.dell.com/sna/products/Monitors_Flat_Panel_Widescreen/productdetail.aspx?&sku=320-2807
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