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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 22 2011 05:14 GMT
#16381
http://nl.hardware.info/reviews/2472/amd-radeon-hd-7970-review
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
aax5
Profile Joined August 2011
United States54 Posts
December 22 2011 06:30 GMT
#16382
Does anyone have guides for OCing an 2500k with an MSI mobo?
nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
December 22 2011 06:44 GMT
#16383
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5261/amd-radeon-hd-7970-review/20

2560x1600 res Ultra + 4x AA SC2 statistics
Year 2500 Greater Israel ( Bahrain, Cyprus, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Oman, Gaza Strip, West Bank, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, Yemen )
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-22 08:06:22
December 22 2011 07:51 GMT
#16384
http://hardocp.com/article/2011/12/21/amd_radeon_hd_7970_video_card_review/14

$550. Goddamn this card is power efficient.

Also lol:
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BryanSC
Profile Joined October 2010
United States455 Posts
December 22 2011 09:44 GMT
#16385
Would it be stupid to even consider PCI 3.0 containing Mobo's (in anticipation of the AMD 7000 series) since PCI 2.0 isn't properly saturated by current video cards?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 22 2011 09:48 GMT
#16386
Yes it's pretty stupid considering how you need Ivybridge to even use PCI-E 3.0.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
December 22 2011 09:57 GMT
#16387
From what I've read, Pci-e 3.0 will do just about diddly squat to improve the graphics performance of the card. That is to say, pci-e 2.0 will do just fine with a 7970 for playing games. Apparently, 3.0 is far more important for future shared computing processes (your CPU and GPU working together on the same project. Then again, I could be bamboozled by a reviewer only slightly less ignorant than me.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-22 10:12:18
December 22 2011 10:11 GMT
#16388
The 7970 and the rest of the line is looking good so far. Not a complete rehash of old technology thats for sure. The compute performances of the card is funny to look at but not unexpected for me.

If its pricing holds it will be much easier to recommend than the 580. If.pricing.holds.

Now I just need to find out how it hashes. By previous indications the 7970 should be a hashing monster.

Anandtech figures drivers are holding the card back, no surprises there I guess, so maybe another set of benchmarks have to be done, who knows.
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Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-22 14:41:25
December 22 2011 10:45 GMT
#16389
Better hope TSMC, AMD, and software partners get the ball rolling then because:

Unfortunately, we aren’t able to speak to the value of several others, or even confirm that they work. AMD rushed this launch to an extent that I don’t think we’ve ever seen before. First, it preempted the introduction of Windows 8, which will realize the Radeon HD 7000-series’ DirectX 11.1 support. Then, it pulled in its debut so far that its software partners—the ones responsible for enabling important stuff like the Video Codec Engine—couldn’t react fast enough to facilitate testing. AMD even jumped the gun on its own driver team. We have to tell you about important features coming in future builds because they’re simply not ready yet. At the very same time, AMD doesn’t have enough Radeon HD 7970 boards on hand to allow for testing Tahiti in CrossFire.


Sounds like no one was really prepared at all for the launch. No idea why they did a paper launch like this to be honest, nVidia isn't really quaking in its boots with this release. Still really cool to see the tech actually working though.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-22 14:48:39
December 22 2011 14:47 GMT
#16390
On December 22 2011 19:45 Womwomwom wrote:
Better hope TSMC, AMD, and software partners get the ball rolling then because:

Show nested quote +
Unfortunately, we aren’t able to speak to the value of several others, or even confirm that they work. AMD rushed this launch to an extent that I don’t think we’ve ever seen before. First, it preempted the introduction of Windows 8, which will realize the Radeon HD 7000-series’ DirectX 11.1 support. Then, it pulled in its debut so far that its software partners—the ones responsible for enabling important stuff like the Video Codec Engine—couldn’t react fast enough to facilitate testing. AMD even jumped the gun on its own driver team. We have to tell you about important features coming in future builds because they’re simply not ready yet. At the very same time, AMD doesn’t have enough Radeon HD 7970 boards on hand to allow for testing Tahiti in CrossFire.


Sounds like no one was really prepared at all for the launch. No idea why they did a paper launch like this to be honest, nVidia isn't really quaking in its boots with this release. Still really cool to see the tech actually working though.


Some of that is kind of a luxury problem. Delays are getting too common so this is a refreshing issue to have. Still a problem obviously. But even with it's problems if it MSRP's less than a 580, it'll make money, and more importantly competition.

If it performs even better with good support 4 months from now, all of that is gravy.
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Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
December 22 2011 14:49 GMT
#16391
On December 22 2011 19:45 Womwomwom wrote:
Better hope TSMC, AMD, and software partners get the ball rolling then because:

Show nested quote +
Unfortunately, we aren’t able to speak to the value of several others, or even confirm that they work. AMD rushed this launch to an extent that I don’t think we’ve ever seen before. First, it preempted the introduction of Windows 8, which will realize the Radeon HD 7000-series’ DirectX 11.1 support. Then, it pulled in its debut so far that its software partners—the ones responsible for enabling important stuff like the Video Codec Engine—couldn’t react fast enough to facilitate testing. AMD even jumped the gun on its own driver team. We have to tell you about important features coming in future builds because they’re simply not ready yet. At the very same time, AMD doesn’t have enough Radeon HD 7970 boards on hand to allow for testing Tahiti in CrossFire.


Sounds like no one was really prepared at all for the launch. No idea why they did a paper launch like this to be honest, nVidia isn't really quaking in its boots with this release. Still really cool to see the tech actually working though.


Is this a rush because of the AMD bulldozer fail? They wanna proove they still can do good things?
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
December 22 2011 14:50 GMT
#16392
On December 22 2011 23:49 Rachnar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 19:45 Womwomwom wrote:
Better hope TSMC, AMD, and software partners get the ball rolling then because:

Unfortunately, we aren’t able to speak to the value of several others, or even confirm that they work. AMD rushed this launch to an extent that I don’t think we’ve ever seen before. First, it preempted the introduction of Windows 8, which will realize the Radeon HD 7000-series’ DirectX 11.1 support. Then, it pulled in its debut so far that its software partners—the ones responsible for enabling important stuff like the Video Codec Engine—couldn’t react fast enough to facilitate testing. AMD even jumped the gun on its own driver team. We have to tell you about important features coming in future builds because they’re simply not ready yet. At the very same time, AMD doesn’t have enough Radeon HD 7970 boards on hand to allow for testing Tahiti in CrossFire.


Sounds like no one was really prepared at all for the launch. No idea why they did a paper launch like this to be honest, nVidia isn't really quaking in its boots with this release. Still really cool to see the tech actually working though.


Is this a rush because of the AMD bulldozer fail? They wanna proove they still can do good things?


Well ATI is alive in there somewhere.
twitch.tv/medrea
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 22 2011 15:21 GMT
#16393
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-overclock-crossfire-ssd,3098.html

Tomshardware optimized gaming computer for 1200$...

They've GOT to be joking right? I guess you could describe this as "trolling" by some definitions
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 22 2011 15:25 GMT
#16394
It's tomshardware, what exactly did you expect from one of the worse computer hardware website?
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
December 22 2011 15:25 GMT
#16395
On December 23 2011 00:21 Shikyo wrote:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-overclock-crossfire-ssd,3098.html

Tomshardware optimized gaming computer for 1200$...

They've GOT to be joking right? I guess you could describe this as "trolling" by some definitions


Well, if you read the last page it does seem like they conclude the i5 to be better. It seems more like a halfassed review of an amd build.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-22 15:32:37
December 22 2011 15:27 GMT
#16396
On December 23 2011 00:21 Shikyo wrote:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-overclock-crossfire-ssd,3098.html

Tomshardware optimized gaming computer for 1200$...

They've GOT to be joking right? I guess you could describe this as "trolling" by some definitions


[image loading]

$1200 dollar rig gets 2 FPS in Metro 2033?

Sounds good to me!
twitch.tv/medrea
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-22 15:52:38
December 22 2011 15:49 GMT
#16397
On December 23 2011 00:25 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 00:21 Shikyo wrote:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-overclock-crossfire-ssd,3098.html

Tomshardware optimized gaming computer for 1200$...

They've GOT to be joking right? I guess you could describe this as "trolling" by some definitions


Well, if you read the last page it does seem like they conclude the i5 to be better. It seems more like a halfassed review of an amd build.

wish it was just that but they also include a firstgen ocz ssd and with an ssd they only got a 750gb storage drive thats caviar black nonetheless and extremely overpriced, and also extremely overpriced ram and if that wasnt enough, the case is also bad and the psu is overpriced. So I guess they got..... the graphics card right?

Not to mention that going AMD they'd have been much better off with a phenom x6 that also overclocks better, bulldozer doesn't even work with like 10 games at all so having it in a gaming build is a joke oh and I wouldnt buy a high-end mobo from that manufacturer and it's overpriced either way.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Gara
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada435 Posts
December 22 2011 16:44 GMT
#16398
What surprises me (reading the guru3d review of the 7970: http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-radeon-hd-7970-review/1) is how often CFX'd 6870s outperform or come close to the 7970, considering that two 6870s is only about $320 vs. the MSRP of $550 for the 7970.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
December 22 2011 16:46 GMT
#16399
Yeah but Micro-stuttering makes that an outperformance on paper only.
twitch.tv/medrea
Gara
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada435 Posts
December 22 2011 17:06 GMT
#16400
On December 23 2011 01:46 Medrea wrote:
Yeah but Micro-stuttering makes that an outperformance on paper only.


True... I guess other people have higher standards than me; personally, if I were playing at 120 fps, I don't think I would notice an occasional drop to 80 fps that often. If microstuttering is such an issue, then maybe SLI? It would still be vastly more economical, even if the GTX 560 is marginally more expensive than the 6870; SLI doesn't seem to suffer quite as much from micro-stuttering as Crossfire does.
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