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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Kleataurus
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia56 Posts
December 17 2011 07:19 GMT
#16161
On December 17 2011 16:16 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 16:15 Kleataurus wrote:

No, the Asus is better.

You only need a 500W PSU to power that.


even though the asus doesnt have pci-e gen 3 support?


Uh yes it does.. did you even read the components you selected? You won't be using PCI-E 3.0 anyways so who cares?


http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=7857 according to this it doesnt.
Meow?
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
December 17 2011 07:20 GMT
#16162
The only people truly excited by PCIe 3.0 are those in telecommunications. That's none of us.

The funny thing is that when PCIe 3.0 devices come out, we can see how badly these PCIe 3.0 implementations actually are. Who the fuck knows if they actually work because there are no devices and I don't think support has publicly listed by Intel.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
December 17 2011 07:23 GMT
#16163
On December 17 2011 16:19 Kleataurus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 16:16 skyR wrote:
On December 17 2011 16:15 Kleataurus wrote:

No, the Asus is better.

You only need a 500W PSU to power that.


even though the asus doesnt have pci-e gen 3 support?


Uh yes it does.. did you even read the components you selected? You won't be using PCI-E 3.0 anyways so who cares?


http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=7857 according to this it doesnt.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131792

Make sure what your linking is the Generation 3.

And PCI-e 3.0 is useless for now.
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Kleataurus
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia56 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 07:24:36
December 17 2011 07:23 GMT
#16164
hmm ok thanks Womwomwom and skyR

Edit- i linked that motherboard because that was the one i was thinking about
Meow?
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
December 17 2011 07:24 GMT
#16165
Not like current generation video-gaming can even make use of 3.0 in any shape or fashion. And future proofing is really, really dumb for the moment since new consoles are not released yet.

Honestly I dont see either board fitting that configuration from a price standpoint but that is just me.
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bigdoody
Profile Joined April 2011
United States25 Posts
December 17 2011 07:26 GMT
#16166
Hi guys, another noob here, hope someone give me some good advice =)

Trying to replace my mobo and cpu for under 200$, and I ran into this deal at micro center.

Phenom II X6 1055T 2.8GHz Six-Core Boxed Processor
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0334812

GIGABYTE GA-78LMT-S2P AM3+ AMD 760G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0366104

Total comes out to 121, but the closest Micro Center is about 2 hours away from me so with a full tank of gas it'd be roughly around 200 dollars.

My question is... is there a better CPU/MOBO combo out there that might outperform this for the price? I don't plan on upgrading in the next two years or anything after this and it's only because my last motherboard died.

I play a moderate amount of games (mostly SC2), and the computer would be used for the usual work based stuff - and sometimes video editing (don't do much now... but I plan on more one day and don't want to be stuck with a CPU that can't handle it)

I'm having a hard time deciding if I should just wait it out and see if I can come up with some more cash, go with this deal, or finding another CPU that I like for the price.

I'm going to keep researching, but advice from better minds always eases me =).
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 17 2011 07:28 GMT
#16167
On December 17 2011 16:19 Kleataurus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 16:16 skyR wrote:
On December 17 2011 16:15 Kleataurus wrote:

No, the Asus is better.

You only need a 500W PSU to power that.


even though the asus doesnt have pci-e gen 3 support?


Uh yes it does.. did you even read the components you selected? You won't be using PCI-E 3.0 anyways so who cares?


http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=7857 according to this it doesnt.


Your original list specified GEN3. The one you linked is not the GEN3 model.

It makes no sense to want PCI-E 3.0 because you'll be required to dump $200 on a 3570k in five months for it. And none of the initial cards are going to require the bandwidth of PCI-E 3.0.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
December 17 2011 07:30 GMT
#16168
On December 17 2011 16:26 bigdoody wrote:
Hi guys, another noob here, hope someone give me some good advice =)

Trying to replace my mobo and cpu for under 200$, and I ran into this deal at micro center.

Phenom II X6 1055T 2.8GHz Six-Core Boxed Processor
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0334812

GIGABYTE GA-78LMT-S2P AM3+ AMD 760G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0366104

Total comes out to 121, but the closest Micro Center is about 2 hours away from me so with a full tank of gas it'd be roughly around 200 dollars.

My question is... is there a better CPU/MOBO combo out there that might outperform this for the price? I don't plan on upgrading in the next two years or anything after this and it's only because my last motherboard died.

I play a moderate amount of games (mostly SC2), and the computer would be used for the usual work based stuff - and sometimes video editing (don't do much now... but I plan on more one day and don't want to be stuck with a CPU that can't handle it)

I'm having a hard time deciding if I should just wait it out and see if I can come up with some more cash, go with this deal, or finding another CPU that I like for the price.

I'm going to keep researching, but advice from better minds always eases me =).


Wait it out. Never compromise. An Intel equivalent should be $300 from Newegg so you'll probably find some nifty deals at Microcenter.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 07:32:57
December 17 2011 07:32 GMT
#16169
On December 17 2011 12:00 Womwomwom wrote:
Designs looks more than OK. HD7950 is looking expensive but holy fuck if it can actually do 3W idle. Also killing off DVI with DP and HDMI is awesome in my books.


wait wait

you'd rather replace an open standard with something nobody really uses and a proprietary cable?

u srs?
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 07:52:29
December 17 2011 07:39 GMT
#16170
All mid to high end monitors (aka the only monitors I use) have displayport support; I haven't seen a single Dell Ultrasharp, NEC Multisync, or HP ZR without it. Heck, even Dell Optiplex have DP now.

I don't give a shit if its a proprietary or closed standard (p.sure DP is pretty much "open" anyway). If it works well, which it does much better than DVI does, and takes up less space, I'm all for it. DVI is huge and bulky and you have to fiddle with different cables if you need certain amounts of bandwidth.

HDMI is smaller, can output video + audio, is partly backwards compatible with DVI if you really need it, and is pretty much self latching. DP can output insane amounts of bandwidth, is much smaller, and is self latching. You don't need anything but these two connectors...unless you need VGA which is a pretty strange requirement in this day and age.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 17 2011 07:57 GMT
#16171
DP isn't a proprietary cable, pretty sure it's just as open as DVI.

Apparently, all AIB partners for the 7900 series are required to include HDMI and active DP adapters so it's not really a problem for people with shit monitors. But seriously I hope you have a decent monitor if you are purchasing a ~$300+ card.

I don't think many enthusiasts care if DVI disappeared the next day. It's a good decision by AMD. I wish Nvidia would quit being stupid and do the same.
_syphon_
Profile Joined April 2011
United States12 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 16:16:10
December 17 2011 16:15 GMT
#16172
HI I am buying the parts today and was hoping that someone would look them over before my final purchase and make sure they are compatible. Thanks in advance. Here are the parts

CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074

GPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948

Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128527

RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233144

Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145299

Case/PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129065

Cd drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136240
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 16:29:18
December 17 2011 16:28 GMT
#16173
That's good except the PSU and Case combo is pretty bad, Antec Basiq isn't a good power supply and antec 300 is an overpriced case, for the money you could get something significantly better for instance:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026

and

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147144
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811121096
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
December 17 2011 16:46 GMT
#16174
Rosewill Destroyer and HEC Blitz have flimsier construction. I'd also rather do without the lower-quality fans on the cheaper cases. Given the open designs, with a single GPU system particularly, the extra fans aren't going to really help with temperatures, just be louder. Antec 300 is not that good, but at least it's got the reasonable 0.8mm panels.

At $90 I'd definitely look at another case and power supply though. Cooler Master HAF 912 is at $50 now, a very good value if you don't mind the aesthetic. At that price I'd take the Corsair CX430 V2 listed above to complement it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

Also, again...I'm not sure why you want 1600 MHz RAM on a system that doesn't support 1333 MHz RAM (and the difference in performance is like 0-2% anyway, generally on the lower side of that range for most tasks).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313086
Toss907
Profile Joined March 2011
United States71 Posts
December 17 2011 17:14 GMT
#16175
Always loved this thread!

Is there a benefit to using a fan controller versus directly to the motherboard if there are slots open? I came across a NZXT Sentry 2 but I dont know if I should use it. I have a P8Z68- deluxe and an Antec liquid cooler(insert # here). I just dont know there is a benefit to using it, feedback would be appreciated! Running 6 fans now including two on the cooler. MOBO has always kept me decent, although it did get a lil warm during Prime95.
Winning!
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 17 2011 17:31 GMT
#16176
Well those are cheap good ones that are for sale >_> And I'm not sure how it's flimsier in a way that would affect someone. At least the blitz has fans and dust filters

Though you're correct that HAF 912 would be a better choice at that price, I'm just a cheapo
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
BlackKiller
Profile Joined December 2011
58 Posts
December 17 2011 20:02 GMT
#16177
Okay I'm looking for a new computer build that around 700-800 and it have to run almost all the games like in good quality too . I am not much a computer guy but would like to learn much more about it. Okay here i go
What is your budget?
700-800
What is your resolution?
1920x1080 HD
What are you using it for?
Gaming ( modern warfare 3, Starcraft 2 Left 4 dead, GTA4, Saint Rows 3 and others.
What is your upgrade cycle?
Probably 1-2 years
When do you plan on building it?
Probably after new year maybe January
Do you plan on overclocking?
Yes but if it cost more i wont do it
Do you need an Operating System?
Nope i got window 7 key already
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No but if need i will considered it
Where are you buying your parts from?
Anywhere close to my place or doesn't take long I like in WESTMINSTER
Please help me build a Pc and please make sure the i have 8gb ram and Intel not Amd( they suck ) and 500gb of harddrive will be good and i be good with a ATI or NAVIDA or others and i want a decent case
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 20:33:13
December 17 2011 20:30 GMT
#16178
Westminster in UK? Including either the country or monetary units would help...

edit: anyway, prices tend to shift, and it's hard to predict if the HD 7950 will be released and available where you live by the time you're really purchasing

Since you won't pay extra to overclock, you're more or less looking for a i5-2x00 CPU, H61 or H67 motherboard, HD 7950 at the most (it would be better if HD 78xx were available, but oh well), etc.
BlackKiller
Profile Joined December 2011
58 Posts
December 17 2011 20:54 GMT
#16179
WESTMINSTER IN CA
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 17 2011 20:56 GMT
#16180
no way he can get a build with a 7950 with 800, though it'd probably be worth it to spend the extra, that thing should be pretty beast. Although I think the 78xx series would be the best
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
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