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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Gfire
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1699 Posts
December 18 2011 19:45 GMT
#16201
Hey everyone. I'm looking to get a new computer sometime in the future to run SC2 better. I have trouble watching replays at x8 or even x4 without major lag. I might also be interested in streaming in the future. I play on lowest settings, 1920x1080.

I want to upgrade to 8GB of RAM, from my current 4, but beyond that I'm pretty much clueless.

I don't know much about what it takes to run replays, and it isn't something which seems to be discussed very much. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
all's fair in love and melodies
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
December 18 2011 19:59 GMT
#16202
On December 19 2011 04:45 Gfire wrote:
Hey everyone. I'm looking to get a new computer sometime in the future to run SC2 better. I have trouble watching replays at x8 or even x4 without major lag. I might also be interested in streaming in the future. I play on lowest settings, 1920x1080.

I want to upgrade to 8GB of RAM, from my current 4, but beyond that I'm pretty much clueless.

I don't know much about what it takes to run replays, and it isn't something which seems to be discussed very much. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


tell us what your complete settup is
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Gfire
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1699 Posts
December 18 2011 20:20 GMT
#16203
On December 19 2011 04:59 Rachnar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 04:45 Gfire wrote:
Hey everyone. I'm looking to get a new computer sometime in the future to run SC2 better. I have trouble watching replays at x8 or even x4 without major lag. I might also be interested in streaming in the future. I play on lowest settings, 1920x1080.

I want to upgrade to 8GB of RAM, from my current 4, but beyond that I'm pretty much clueless.

I don't know much about what it takes to run replays, and it isn't something which seems to be discussed very much. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


tell us what your complete settup is

Well I'm currently on an Alienware M15X laptop, but my priority has changed from going to lans to viewing replays. What about my setup do you need to know to advise me in getting a new computer? I'm not going to lans anymore so I pretty much use it as a desktop, which is not very efficient at all. I've plugged it into a monitor, which is a Samsung SyncMaster B2230, and I use a Daskeyboard ultimate, and a Razer Deathadder Black mouse. And Steelseries Siberia headset and earphones, if you need to know. And I guess I use my Intuos3 Wacom Tablet from time to time. That's as complete as I can think of.

Anyways, I'm mostly wondering about what it takes to run the replays at x8 without much lag.
all's fair in love and melodies
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 18 2011 20:24 GMT
#16204
Lag = stutter? Lag = FPS drop? You can watch it x8 speed without stuttering but FPS is going to be abysmal.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
December 18 2011 20:34 GMT
#16205
Are there any other quality, cheaper cases people can recommend? I'm not a big fan of the asgard II
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 18 2011 20:36 GMT
#16206
Asgard II isn't even available in Canada so this shouldn't even be an option.

The best option for an inexpensive case is a Bitfenix Merc Alpha for $35.
Gfire
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1699 Posts
December 18 2011 23:02 GMT
#16207
On December 19 2011 05:24 skyR wrote:
Lag = stutter? Lag = FPS drop? You can watch it x8 speed without stuttering but FPS is going to be abysmal.

Yes, stutter. Every few seconds it halts for a bit.
all's fair in love and melodies
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
December 18 2011 23:02 GMT
#16208
How good of a deal is this combo from Newegg?

1x Corsair Carbide Series 400R Graphite grey and black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Gaming Case

$99.99
1x Intel Core i5-2500 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000 BX80623I52500

$209.99
1x MSI H67MS-E23 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel H67 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX Intel Motherboard

$79.99
1x CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B

$46.99
1x CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply

$59.99
1x Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

$129.99
1x EVGA SuperClocked 01G-P3-1461-KR GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

$199.99


TOTAL WITH DISCOUNTS: $714

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.791298
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 18 2011 23:10 GMT
#16209
It's okay..
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
December 18 2011 23:15 GMT
#16210
What don't you like in there?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 18 2011 23:23 GMT
#16211
Well the combo discounts amount to $111.94.

$12 of this accounts for wasting money on 1600MHz memory when your motherboard can't even support such speed.

$10 accounts for the price of the 2500 since a core i5 2500k can be had for $200 and a core i5 2400 which is only 100MHz slower can be had for $180 (as opposed to $210 for the core i5 2500 on Newegg).

$100 case for such a low-end build? Basically $50 of the discount?

$20 accounts for wasting money on a pre-overclocked EVGA -KR.

A Seagate Barracuda 1TB for $130 is overpriced, the Samsung Spinpoint F3 is $110 until Dec 21st - you'll be dumb to not pick this up if you were buying from Newegg.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 18 2011 23:28 GMT
#16212
but even so with the discounts its still worth it imo. The build itself seems well-proportioned and the case's still really good. Even if the components are a bit overpriced it'd still be tough to get better for the money.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
December 18 2011 23:52 GMT
#16213
I don't mind spending a little extra on a case that will likely survive to house a new set of components in the future. The one thing that I'd consider adding would be a second GTX 560 for SLI. If I did this, would I need a bigger power supply? How badly would the CPU be bottlenecked?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 18 2011 23:54 GMT
#16214
You would need a Z68 or P67 motherboard which adds about $40+ to your total and yes it would be recommended to get a 650w unit for SLI. If you're going to SLI, it is also recommended that you spend the extra to overclock as well since doing SLI without overclocking is sort of stupid.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
December 19 2011 00:11 GMT
#16215
I never understood why people get cases because they think they break down like the rest of the computer or something.

I mean what are you doing with the case : /

I have old WANG computer cases from the early 80's still hanging around.
twitch.tv/medrea
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 19 2011 00:15 GMT
#16216
Because they look nice ._. I'd pay $300 for a Lian Li (=
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
December 19 2011 00:37 GMT
#16217
Well looks nice is one thing but metal cases are pretty much immortal.

I mean what do people do with cases? Use em for keggers? Make a bong out of them? Build a dirtbike jump with it?
twitch.tv/medrea
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 19 2011 01:18 GMT
#16218
well I like having my computer in a case
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
December 19 2011 04:49 GMT
#16219
Actually my old computer cases just stay computer cases. But when I get a new computer, my old one inevitably becomes a hand-me-down to someone. So, new case.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
spscannon
Profile Joined November 2011
146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-19 07:31:50
December 19 2011 07:02 GMT
#16220
Out of curiosity which motherboard should i get?
Getting a 1 tb hitachi SATA 2 HD, i52400, coolermaster 212+, 2x4 GB ram(i dont think 1333 or 1600 ram matters as the motherboard will max out at w.e it can handle right?), HD radeon 6870, antec neo eco 520W power supply, cheapest cd/dvd drive i can find, not sure on monitor yet(but i dont think motherboard choice affects that right, correct me if im wrong). Fitting all this into a coolermaster 430 case

trying to decide between a h67 or a h61 (probably going to get a h61 as its about 30-40 cheaper, unless any one can tell me the advantages of getting the h67 with what i have currently listed as my parts, or in general)

what i'm trying to choose between in spoiler. What are the advantages of paying more, as they all seem to be similar. And Cant they handle the graphics card I've chosen?

+ Show Spoiler +

Gigabyte GA-H61M-USB3-B3
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0361414 89.99 (74.99 with rebate)

Gigabyte GA-H61M-S2H
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0371994 74.99 (64.99 with rebate)

Asus P8H61-M LE/CSM R3
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0365088 69.99

Gigabyte GA-H61M-DS2
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0377387 62.99(52.99)

BioStar H61MLB
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0375838 54.99



Thanks for any help you guys can give me. This thread has been very helpful
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