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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
September 27 2011 14:44 GMT
#12121
i thought the base clock was 900mhz?
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 27 2011 14:44 GMT
#12122
On September 27 2011 23:37 Rachnar wrote:
2, not warhead, sorry forgot to mention it, i know i cant run that one :p

also i cant OC it so annoying :< each time i go past like 850mhz it just shuts down :/

I thought 6870 was 900.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 14:46:02
September 27 2011 14:45 GMT
#12123
On September 27 2011 23:22 Rachnar wrote:
i max out crysis with my 6870, sometimes going to 20 fps but it's still pretty rare and lasts just a few seconds usually


On September 27 2011 23:37 Rachnar wrote:
2, not warhead, sorry forgot to mention it, i know i cant run that one :p


Are the requirements for Warhead higher than Crysis 2?

BTW, what resolution and are you using the DX11 patch, also are you using the high resolution textures patch?
With both of those, I'm getting average 60FPS with a 6870 at 1600x900 at "Extreme" but only around 30-40 at "Ultra".

I just installed the game, I'm gonna take some screenshots to compare the two when I get home tonight.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 15:01:24
September 27 2011 14:58 GMT
#12124
1920*1080 everything on ultra with the 2 packs yeah

and yes requierements for warhead or higher then crysis 2 (when crysis 1 came out i think no single GPU could handle the game on ultra)

and for the clock mine was at 800 orginially, but oh well it's enough for me
(basic saphire 6870)

when i'll get home i can run a couple of test if you want the exact min fps and medium fps, but got university till 7 so ~~
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
September 27 2011 15:24 GMT
#12125
On September 27 2011 23:58 Rachnar wrote:

and for the clock mine was at 800 orginially, but oh well it's enough for me
(basic saphire 6870)


This doesn't make sense to me. 6870's have been clocked at 900 core since release. 6850's are at 775 and 6950's at 800.

What's going on with your GPU? lol.

I know Sapphire is a budget manufacturer, but come on..
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
September 27 2011 15:27 GMT
#12126
i'll go double check tonight when i get home, but i'm pretty sure it was at 800 Oo, i may be crazy though, as my memory can play me tricks sometimes
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
PlayhemTV
Profile Joined September 2011
United States17 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 18:24:18
September 27 2011 18:24 GMT
#12127
Haha oops I meant GTX 590. My friend corrected me on that one too saying it's the 590 I want, NOT the 6990 (that would explain why I wanted to dual GPU that). Thanks for all your feedback! So back to my other question, how much PSU do you think I would want if I combine it with the i5 2500k?
Madoga
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands471 Posts
September 27 2011 18:37 GMT
#12128
A quality 550-600W PSU will do for a 590 +i5. taking the rest of your system is notihng special.
If you want to overlclock it you migth want to go 50W higher.
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
September 27 2011 18:41 GMT
#12129
That's not a better choice you know, and I have a hard time taking you seriously with the way you post. None of the gtx 590 or hd 6990 makes any sense. Ever.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 18:43:54
September 27 2011 18:43 GMT
#12130
GTX590 is basicly like an hd6990....

and indeed i was weong it doesn't go past 950 not 850*, my bad

and redid the test on crysis 2 never went below 20 fps and rarely went that low (only tested with FRAPS though as i'm pretty ignorant to what software allows me to record the FPS)


On September 28 2011 03:41 gruff wrote:
That's not a better choice you know, and I have a hard time taking you seriously with the way you post. None of the gtx 590 or hd 6990 makes any sense. Ever.


it does if you want to eye infinity on crysis or something, and even then gtx590 wouldn't be the way to go
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 18:50:28
September 27 2011 18:46 GMT
#12131
On September 28 2011 03:24 PlayhemTV wrote:
Haha oops I meant GTX 590. My friend corrected me on that one too saying it's the 590 I want, NOT the 6990 (that would explain why I wanted to dual GPU that). Thanks for all your feedback! So back to my other question, how much PSU do you think I would want if I combine it with the i5 2500k?

gtx 590 sucks too. I don't think your friend is someone you should really listen to about computer builds, no offense. For about 70% the value you can even Crossfire 6950s and have similiar performance and even THAT is overkill for almost everything.

Do you even have a 1440p or are trying to eyefinity? For 1080p gaming you're throwing 500+ dollars down the drain.

Btw you can't dual gpu those either and I'm about to dismiss you as a troll.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
PlayhemTV
Profile Joined September 2011
United States17 Posts
September 27 2011 18:53 GMT
#12132
Okay I apologize then (again). What do you recommend then for price? The GTX 570? My friend works for the local computer tech squad so I guess he's just there to get me to spend more money
strikerz200
Profile Joined September 2011
58 Posts
September 27 2011 18:55 GMT
#12133
I need some serious help.

my cpu is perfectly fine, it's i3-2100 that i bought a month ago or so.
but.. the gpu that I have is like 4 years old XFX 9800GT and it's really weird.
anygame I play taht requires pre-rendering of whole map like bf3 and Path of exile, where there is wide range of field, my computer chokes up. is that my gpu acting funny?
idol temperature on this thing is like 85 and goes up to 115 in games.
can you for certain say that it's my gpu dying?
whenever this happens, my fps goes down to like 19 from 100
let me know

thanks
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
September 27 2011 18:57 GMT
#12134
On September 28 2011 03:53 PlayhemTV wrote:
Okay I apologize then (again). What do you recommend then for price? The GTX 570? My friend works for the local computer tech squad so I guess he's just there to get me to spend more money


Can't make an informed recommendation if you don't post:
1) Your screen resolution
2) Current and upcoming games you expect to play
3) Settings you want to use (is "Medium" ok? or do you not settle for anything less than "max"? Does "max" have to include Anti-Aliasing (AA)?)
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
September 27 2011 18:59 GMT
#12135
On September 28 2011 03:55 strikerz200 wrote:
I need some serious help.

my cpu is perfectly fine, it's i3-2100 that i bought a month ago or so.
but.. the gpu that I have is like 4 years old XFX 9800GT and it's really weird.
anygame I play taht requires pre-rendering of whole map like bf3 and Path of exile, where there is wide range of field, my computer chokes up. is that my gpu acting funny?
idol temperature on this thing is like 85 and goes up to 115 in games.
can you for certain say that it's my gpu dying?
whenever this happens, my fps goes down to like 19 from 100
let me know

thanks


Degrees Celsius or Fahrenheit?
If C, it's way overheating and throttling (this seems to be the case with the FPS drop).

Stop playing games, shut down and unplug PC, open it up and use compressed air to clean it up inside (especially the GPU's heatsink and fans).
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 19:03:30
September 27 2011 18:59 GMT
#12136
On September 28 2011 03:53 PlayhemTV wrote:
Okay I apologize then (again). What do you recommend then for price? The GTX 570? My friend works for the local computer tech squad so I guess he's just there to get me to spend more money


Important questions you should ask yourself

If you request a build, please answer these questions. We will spend as much effort on your build as you spend on your answers to these questions! I urge people to abstain from providing builds unless all the questions are answered.

What is your budget?

This should be an obvious one, you should determine a price range that best describes how much you want to spend on your build. It makes it easier for people to make recommendations.

What is your resolution?

This is extremely important especially for a gaming machine. I see people all the time asking for a video card recommendation and 5 people reply "5850" and the person hasn't even given their gaming resolution; it turns out the person games at 1280x1024 and could have ended up wasting $200 on a card that is total and complete overkill for his resolution.

What are you using it for?

Mostly gaming? Some gaming with video encoding mixed in? Photoshop? Streaming? All this matters, you can end up spending a lot of money and not be able to do anything you wanted to or you can spend a lot of money on stuff you don't even want to do.

What is your upgrade cycle?

Knowing the answer to this question makes it easier for people to recommend CPU sockets and GPUs so you get the most for your money. A person with a longer upgrade (2+ years) cycle will probably end up spending more initially but end up saving more at the expense of some performance. On the other hand a person with a shorter upgrade cycle (1 - 2 years) wants to spend less initially so they can put more money toward their next build.

When do you plan on building it?

Computer parts shift in prices often. With the release of new products, exist prices may drop further. Even without the release of new prices, changes in supply can affect the price of a specific part. The HD 5850 was supposed to retail at the $260 mark, but in a mere 4-5 months after its release it climbed to top $300 for basic reference models.

Do you plan on overclocking?

If you plan on overclocking, the motherboard choice and heatsink choice will be affected. Enthusiast overclocking requires enthusiast heatsinks and at least a stable motherboard. A simple budget Foxconn motherboard will not be adequate for your overclocking needs!

Do you need an Operating System?

An OS is around $100. It affects how much of your budget we can spend on the actual hardware.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

CrossFire and SLI are powerful solutions that allow higher performance, but in order to utilize them, we have to choose motherboards and PSUs that can support the increased demands that Crossfire and SLI place on your components.

Where are you buying your parts from?

If you have a nearby Fry's or Microcenter you can utilize their deals. If you're in Europe you obviously cannot use Newegg/Fry's/Microcenter so we need to know where you are from to put together a list of parts from a website or area you can actually buy from.

If you can't answer these questions, make sure you can answer them before you ask us to help you put together a list of parts for you. Every single question affects the build we will put together for you greatly so make sure you can answer them accurately!



On September 28 2011 03:55 strikerz200 wrote:
I need some serious help.

my cpu is perfectly fine, it's i3-2100 that i bought a month ago or so.
but.. the gpu that I have is like 4 years old XFX 9800GT and it's really weird.
anygame I play taht requires pre-rendering of whole map like bf3 and Path of exile, where there is wide range of field, my computer chokes up. is that my gpu acting funny?
idol temperature on this thing is like 85 and goes up to 115 in games.
can you for certain say that it's my gpu dying?
whenever this happens, my fps goes down to like 19 from 100
let me know

thanks

GPU temperature of 115 celcius? That's severe overheating, check your GPU fan is working and see if it's dusty or if there's proper air circulation, 85 idle is super high as well so I'm thinking your GPU cooler/fan might be broken as that can't be explained with just bad air circulation.

If it's fahrenheit that'd be 46 celcius and there'd be no problems but I doubt that.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
PlayhemTV
Profile Joined September 2011
United States17 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 19:05:01
September 27 2011 19:00 GMT
#12137
On September 28 2011 03:57 Wabbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 03:53 PlayhemTV wrote:
Okay I apologize then (again). What do you recommend then for price? The GTX 570? My friend works for the local computer tech squad so I guess he's just there to get me to spend more money


Can't make an informed recommendation if you don't post:
1) Your screen resolution
2) Current and upcoming games you expect to play
3) Settings you want to use (is "Medium" ok? or do you not settle for anything less than "max"? Does "max" have to include Anti-Aliasing (AA)?)


1. 1080P
2. I want to do high-end quality streaming for SC2 mainly and eventually record HD videos (via FRAPS and other programs) but maybe other games like D3!
3. I want maximum resolution because again, streaming will bump my fps down.

Parts I'm looking at right now and (I do plan on overclocking):

1. Intel Core i5-2500K Processor 3.3GHz 6 MB Cache Socket LGA1155
2. GIGABYTE GA-Z68MX-UD2H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
3. Noctua for Intel LGA 1156, 1366, 1155, 775 and AMD AM2/AM2+/AM3 Sockets, 6 Heatpipe 2x140mm SSO Bearing Quiet CPU Cooler - Retail NH-C14
4. GFX card
5. PSU unit that I don't know which to get yet
6. OCZ Vertex 3 120GB 2.5IN SATA3 6Gbps Sandforce SF-2281 Solid State Disk Flash Drive SSD

Budget maybe around 1.5k? But now that I don't need to get that high of a GFX card I can go down to 1k
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 19:04:18
September 27 2011 19:03 GMT
#12138
@PlayhemTV it would help to know what you'll be using the computer for. The generic "runs everything really well, perhaps not the most demanding games on max" is a 560Ti, with plenty of small steps up and down available. That's actually overkill for just-SC2 use, since SC2 has a different set of requirements than most games.

If you're streaming: no difference in graphics card.

If you're streaming AND doing a lot of video encoding - might want to spend the money you save on GPU on a i7-2600k processor. I'm not an expert on this, but I have been told that's one of the few applications that benefit from the hyper-threading of the i7. I wouldn't normally mention that, but your nickname is PlayhemTV...

long story short, to get really good advice from people other than me, say what you're using the computer for and answer the questions in the OP if you haven't already (resolution makes a big difference too).

Edit: me too slow!
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 19:12:08
September 27 2011 19:08 GMT
#12139
On September 28 2011 04:00 PlayhemTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 03:57 Wabbit wrote:
On September 28 2011 03:53 PlayhemTV wrote:
Okay I apologize then (again). What do you recommend then for price? The GTX 570? My friend works for the local computer tech squad so I guess he's just there to get me to spend more money


Can't make an informed recommendation if you don't post:
1) Your screen resolution
2) Current and upcoming games you expect to play
3) Settings you want to use (is "Medium" ok? or do you not settle for anything less than "max"? Does "max" have to include Anti-Aliasing (AA)?)


1. 1080P
2. I want to do high-end quality streaming for SC2 mainly but maybe other games like D3!
3. I want maximum resolution because again, streaming will bump my fps down.

Parts I'm looking at right now and (I do plan on overclocking):

1. Intel Core i5-2500K Processor 3.3GHz 6 MB Cache Socket LGA1155
2. GIGABYTE GA-Z68MX-UD2H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
3. Noctua for Intel LGA 1156, 1366, 1155, 775 and AMD AM2/AM2+/AM3 Sockets, 6 Heatpipe 2x140mm SSO Bearing Quiet CPU Cooler - Retail NH-C14
4. GFX card
5. PSU unit that I don't know which to get yet
6. OCZ Vertex 3 120GB 2.5IN SATA3 6Gbps Sandforce SF-2281 Solid State Disk Flash Drive SSD

Budget maybe around 1.5k? But now that I don't need to get that high of a GFX card I can go down to 1k

Z68 micro atx with usb 3 sata 6gbs... reeks of overpriced, what's the price?

That cooler is overpriced in my opinion.

You don't need anything higher than GTX 560 or 6870, which both are around 170 dollars depending on the store. GTX 460 works as well but only if it's cheaper than those.

Vertex 3 is overpriced, get Agility 3 for OCZ but that's not so recommended anymore because of sandforce issues, try crucial m4, it should be slightly cheaper than Vertex 3 anyway.

PSU would be around 500w.

How much would this cost from whatever store your friend is at? It's probably overpriced there so you should tell us that so that we can have you buy those for as cheap as possible.

Also, you're going to need some RAM, get a 2x4gb set of 1.5v, cost should be around 40 dollars, hopefully lower, 45 is acceptable.

oops fixed typos.


Do you have a case and ram? Really would love to hear the prices so we could find you cheaper components online.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
PlayhemTV
Profile Joined September 2011
United States17 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 19:14:41
September 27 2011 19:13 GMT
#12140
On September 28 2011 04:08 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 04:00 PlayhemTV wrote:
On September 28 2011 03:57 Wabbit wrote:
On September 28 2011 03:53 PlayhemTV wrote:
Okay I apologize then (again). What do you recommend then for price? The GTX 570? My friend works for the local computer tech squad so I guess he's just there to get me to spend more money


Can't make an informed recommendation if you don't post:
1) Your screen resolution
2) Current and upcoming games you expect to play
3) Settings you want to use (is "Medium" ok? or do you not settle for anything less than "max"? Does "max" have to include Anti-Aliasing (AA)?)


1. 1080P
2. I want to do high-end quality streaming for SC2 mainly but maybe other games like D3!
3. I want maximum resolution because again, streaming will bump my fps down.

Parts I'm looking at right now and (I do plan on overclocking):

1. Intel Core i5-2500K Processor 3.3GHz 6 MB Cache Socket LGA1155
2. GIGABYTE GA-Z68MX-UD2H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
3. Noctua for Intel LGA 1156, 1366, 1155, 775 and AMD AM2/AM2+/AM3 Sockets, 6 Heatpipe 2x140mm SSO Bearing Quiet CPU Cooler - Retail NH-C14
4. GFX card
5. PSU unit that I don't know which to get yet
6. OCZ Vertex 3 120GB 2.5IN SATA3 6Gbps Sandforce SF-2281 Solid State Disk Flash Drive SSD

Budget maybe around 1.5k? But now that I don't need to get that high of a GFX card I can go down to 1k

Z68 micro atx with usb 3 sata 6gbs... reeks of overpriced, what's the price?

That cooler is overpriced in my opinion.

You don't need anything higher than GTX 560 or 6970, which both are around 170 dollars depending on the store. GTX 460 works as well but only if it's cheaper than those.

Vertex 3 is overpriced, get Agility 3 for OCZ but that's not so recommended anymore because of sandforce issues, try crucial m4, it should be slightly cheaper than Vertex 3 anyway.

PSU would be around 500w.

How much would this cost from whatever store your friend is at? It's probably overpriced there so you should tell us that so that we can have you buy those for as cheap as possible.

Also, you're going to need some RAM, get a 2x4gb set of 1.5v, cost should be around 40 dollars, hopefully lower, 45 is acceptable.


Thanks for quick response!

The Mobo is $110. http://tinyurl.com/3lzvyn6

Any suggestions for a lower priced cooler then? I don't want to skimp out and buy a crappy one if I'm overclocking.

GTX 560 sounds solid

For SSD, do you recommend getting 60 or 120gb? Said friend was saying how you can split the SSD even further down for optimal performance...but it sounded complicated.

I already have a 650W Corsair TX from earlier. Is this enough? I also have 8gb of RAM which should be good.

Total cost was around 1.4k so.
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