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On September 28 2011 08:21 FabledIntegral wrote:They don't have what deal for the i5? It's not a deal like "get an i5 and get any motherboard this % off" but rather "buy an CPU/Mobo bundle deal and get killer savings." I've noticed Powercolor is always running on the cheaper prices, but I suspect it'd be fine. Performance wise should be identical, only things that differ are usually things like customer service, warranty, RMA policy (returning defective under warranty), how the card cools itself, ease of rebate process, etc.
Oh yeah I know, they have 3 different motherboard deals right now, but they're all really crappy. The person I spoke to said all of their deals were online right now, and that's what I found. Regardless, I would be going into microcenter to buy the CPU, so if it is store only, I would end up getting it anyways.
Is a quad core processor really noticeably superior to a dual core processor with the same Ghz when you only run a few applications at once? And if it makes a difference, I almost always X out everything else when I play starcraft 2, and that's the most graphics/cpu intensive game that I have.
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On September 28 2011 08:25 TexDrum wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 08:21 FabledIntegral wrote:They don't have what deal for the i5? It's not a deal like "get an i5 and get any motherboard this % off" but rather "buy an CPU/Mobo bundle deal and get killer savings." I've noticed Powercolor is always running on the cheaper prices, but I suspect it'd be fine. Performance wise should be identical, only things that differ are usually things like customer service, warranty, RMA policy (returning defective under warranty), how the card cools itself, ease of rebate process, etc. Oh yeah I know, they have 3 different motherboard deals right now, but they're all really crappy. The person I spoke to said all of their deals were online right now, and that's what I found. Regardless, I would be going into microcenter to buy the CPU, so if it is store only, I would end up getting it anyways. Is a quad core processor really noticeably superior to a dual core processor with the same Ghz when you only run a few applications at once? And if it makes a difference, I almost always X out everything else when I play starcraft 2, and that's the most graphics/cpu intensive game that I have.
Eh, the i5 2400 is just a better CPU overall. Higher frequency being better is only a general rule. My i7 at stock 2.8GHz is better than a Phenom II x4 at 4.0GHz. The price difference at Microcenter is only $50 between the i3 and i5, personally I think it's a no brainer unless you're on a strict budget. You'll get a ton more bang for your buck and it'll last much longer into the future. Also the i3 doesn't have turbo boost so they won't be operating at the same frequencies.
Comparison of the processors: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/363?vs=289
Starcraft 2 bench: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-gaming-cpu-core-i3-2100-phenom-ii-x6-1075t,2859-8.html
You should most likely go with 4GB of RAM, even though 8GB is only $15 more expensive ($25 vs $40), it seems as if it'd be overkill for you.
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Alright. Also, what does turbo boost actually do/how do you activate it? It seems to be different from overclocking from what I've gathered (which I know)
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On September 28 2011 08:39 TexDrum wrote:
Alright. Also, what does turbo boost actually do/how do you activate it? It seems to be different from overclocking from what I've gathered (which I know)
No, it's pretty much overclocking that's automatically done by your processor so you don't have to do it yourself. You don't need to activate it. Basically your processor realizes it would be better to work faster at certain points when it's working, so it overclocks itself when under stress to perform better, then downclocks itself when it's done with heavier tasks.
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Alright, thank you very much, again.
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I found the exact same version of my motherboard as an open box, for 15 dollars less, is it risky to buy something open box, or worth it?
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What is your budget?
Less than $800
What is your resolution?
Currently I am running at 1400x900, but I plan to upgrade my monitor in the near future (probably 1920x1080).
What are you using it for?
Mostly a gaming rig. Skyrim, Diablo III, and future SC expansions.
What is your upgrade cycle?
I hope for the majority of this computer to last for 3-4 years. I don't expect to be running the latest and greatest games on ultra/max settings down the road, but I do want to be able to use the majority of the build (minus an expected GPU upgrade) for several years and be able to comfortably run things on medium-high.
When do you plan on building it?
The next month or so.
Do you plan on overclocking?
No.
Do you need an Operating System?
No.
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No.
Where are you buying your parts from?
Newegg.
First, let me say that this thread is fantastic. I have been reading the TL forums for the last year or so and have found it to be informative even for a novice builder like myself. Thank you in advance for any help. Let me also say that my build has some potentially "unusual" choices that I will try to justify. If I am completely off base, please let me know. This will be my first build.
Case: HAF 912 $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233
*Motherboard: ASUS P8H67 $114.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131711
CPU: I5-2400 $189.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074
Hard Drive: Cavier Black 750GB $54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136794
RAM: Corsair XMS3 8GB 1333 $49.99 (Combo with PSU)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145315
**Power Supply: Corsair TX650 V2 $84.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020&Tpk=Corsair TX650 V2
CD/DVD: ASUS 24x DVD burner $18.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204
GPU: Gigabyte 6870 $189.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125357
Total (minus rebates and combo deals): $748.92
*I realize this motherboard might be a bit "overkill" as there are several other H61 and H67s for a lot cheaper. However, I wanted the extra two slots of RAM, the 6.0 GB SATA, and this seemed like an appropriate choice. I also preferred the 3 year warranty over the 1 year of some other brands.
**I suspect this PSU is more than what I need (probably in the 450-500 range). However, I trust corsair as a brand and did not like many of the reviews for the lower-tier "builder series" referring to whining noises and other issues. I also have experience with this PSU as it is currently in another system of mine. The extra warranty is also appreciated. This PSU is currently bundled with the RAM to save $15.00. If I do not buy the PC before this deal expires, I will go with other RAM but for now, it works out to be a decent deal with the PSU I want.
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On September 28 2011 08:57 TexDrum wrote:
I found the exact same version of my motherboard as an open box, for 15 dollars less, is it risky to buy something open box, or worth it?
Not really, but I always buy new as personal preference. Open box is supposed to be essentially new (maybe used a tidbit). Your personal choice. What motherboard are you going with anyways? I'd still try to go to microcenter and see what they say on mobos, as their site is a little screwy on deals and I don't believe them when they talk about certain deals over the internet/phone vs instore.
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On September 28 2011 09:10 FabledIntegral wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 08:57 TexDrum wrote:
I found the exact same version of my motherboard as an open box, for 15 dollars less, is it risky to buy something open box, or worth it? Not really, but I always buy new as personal preference. Open box is supposed to be essentially new (maybe used a tidbit). Your personal choice. What motherboard are you going with anyways? I'd still try to go to microcenter and see what they say on mobos, as their site is a little screwy on deals and I don't believe them when they talk about certain deals over the internet/phone vs instore.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241
Skyr linked it to me. And yeah, I will get the processor before the mobo i think, but this is only 40$ anyways. If thats the 54 one, I just haven't updated the link with the right price
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On September 28 2011 09:09 sisyphus. wrote:What is your budget? Less than $800 What is your resolution? Currently I am running at 1400x900, but I plan to upgrade my monitor in the near future (probably 1920x1080). What are you using it for? Mostly a gaming rig. Skyrim, Diablo III, and future SC expansions. What is your upgrade cycle? I hope for the majority of this computer to last for 3-4 years. I don't expect to be running the latest and greatest games on ultra/max settings down the road, but I do want to be able to use the majority of the build (minus an expected GPU upgrade) for several years and be able to comfortably run things on medium-high. When do you plan on building it? The next month or so. Do you plan on overclocking? No. Do you need an Operating System? No. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No. Where are you buying your parts from? Newegg. First, let me say that this thread is fantastic. I have been reading the TL forums for the last year or so and have found it to be informative even for a novice builder like myself. Thank you in advance for any help. Let me also say that my build has some potentially "unusual" choices that I will try to justify. If I am completely off base, please let me know. This will be my first build. Case: HAF 912 $59.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233*Motherboard: ASUS P8H67 $114.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131711CPU: I5-2400 $189.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074Hard Drive: Cavier Black 750GB $54.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136794RAM: Corsair XMS3 8GB 1333 $49.99 (Combo with PSU) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145315**Power Supply: Corsair TX650 V2 $84.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020&Tpk=Corsair TX650 V2CD/DVD: ASUS 24x DVD burner $18.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204GPU: Gigabyte 6870 $189.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125357Total (minus rebates and combo deals): $748.92 *I realize this motherboard might be a bit "overkill" as there are several other H61 and H67s for a lot cheaper. However, I wanted the extra two slots of RAM, the 6.0 GB SATA, and this seemed like an appropriate choice. I also preferred the 3 year warranty over the 1 year of some other brands. **I suspect this PSU is more than what I need (probably in the 450-500 range). However, I trust corsair as a brand and did not like many of the reviews for the lower-tier "builder series" referring to whining noises and other issues. I also have experience with this PSU as it is currently in another system of mine. The extra warranty is also appreciated. This PSU is currently bundled with the RAM to save $15.00. If I do not buy the PC before this deal expires, I will go with other RAM but for now, it works out to be a decent deal with the PSU I want.
Ok, just realize that's a hefty amount more on that motherborad. Do you really need the two extra RAM slots, since most people won't be going above 8GB anytime soon (and by the time you'll need more it's very possible you're already ready to upgrade, realize 4GB is still the standard). Also, what do you want the SATA 3.0 for? I'm not sure you'll even be using it.
You could probably cut costs going with a caviar blue (slightly worse warranty and negligibly slower), but honestly it'd only be saving around $5, so I think it's fine. I know XFX has a 6870 for $150 after rebate if you're interested there. Newegg.com is down atm, so I don't know the 6870 rebate.
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On September 28 2011 09:09 sisyphus. wrote:+ Show Spoiler +What is your budget? Less than $800 What is your resolution? Currently I am running at 1400x900, but I plan to upgrade my monitor in the near future (probably 1920x1080). What are you using it for? Mostly a gaming rig. Skyrim, Diablo III, and future SC expansions. What is your upgrade cycle? I hope for the majority of this computer to last for 3-4 years. I don't expect to be running the latest and greatest games on ultra/max settings down the road, but I do want to be able to use the majority of the build (minus an expected GPU upgrade) for several years and be able to comfortably run things on medium-high. When do you plan on building it? The next month or so. Do you plan on overclocking? No. Do you need an Operating System? No. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No. Where are you buying your parts from? Newegg. First, let me say that this thread is fantastic. I have been reading the TL forums for the last year or so and have found it to be informative even for a novice builder like myself. Thank you in advance for any help. Let me also say that my build has some potentially "unusual" choices that I will try to justify. If I am completely off base, please let me know. This will be my first build. Case: HAF 912 $59.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233*Motherboard: ASUS P8H67 $114.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131711CPU: I5-2400 $189.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074Hard Drive: Cavier Black 750GB $54.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136794RAM: Corsair XMS3 8GB 1333 $49.99 (Combo with PSU) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145315**Power Supply: Corsair TX650 V2 $84.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020&Tpk=Corsair TX650 V2CD/DVD: ASUS 24x DVD burner $18.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204GPU: Gigabyte 6870 $189.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125357Total (minus rebates and combo deals): $748.92 *I realize this motherboard might be a bit "overkill" as there are several other H61 and H67s for a lot cheaper. However, I wanted the extra two slots of RAM, the 6.0 GB SATA, and this seemed like an appropriate choice. I also preferred the 3 year warranty over the 1 year of some other brands. **I suspect this PSU is more than what I need (probably in the 450-500 range). However, I trust corsair as a brand and did not like many of the reviews for the lower-tier "builder series" referring to whining noises and other issues. I also have experience with this PSU as it is currently in another system of mine. The extra warranty is also appreciated. This PSU is currently bundled with the RAM to save $15.00. If I do not buy the PC before this deal expires, I will go with other RAM but for now, it works out to be a decent deal with the PSU I want.
Not a whole lot of reason to spend $115 for a motherboard and not get a P67 since that fits all your criteria: 6Gbps, three year warranty, four DIMM slots, plus you can overclock by 400MHz.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128487
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121512
Even though having four DIMM slots is pretty useless when you're already getting 2x4GB. Most consumers will never need more than this, at least not in the Sandybridge and Ivybridge era. It's a much smarter choice to go with a less expensive h67 motherboard.
You're actually saving like nothing by getting a combo deal with an overkill power supply and memory.
Mushkin 2x4gb 1333MHz cas9 kit is $30 over at NCIX: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55544&promoid=1367 Even if you wanted to purchase everything from Newegg, a 2x4GB 1333MHz cas9 GSkill kit is $41: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231424
Corsair power supplies are manufactured by Seasonic. Seasonic S12II 520, Antec High Current Gamer 520, XFX Core Edition Pro 550, or XFX Core Edition 450 from NCIX (do not buy the 450 V2 variant from Newegg) would be more reasonable choices for this type of configuration. All of which except for the Antec comes with a five year warranty, are manufactured by Seasonic and largely based off the same internal design.
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konadora
Singapore66158 Posts
What is your budget?
SGD$1500-$2000 (USD $1100~$1700?)
What is your resolution?
Currently 1440x900, but planning to upgrade to 1920x1080.
What are you using it for?
High performance gaming/recording/streaming
What is your upgrade cycle?
Planning for next upgrade to be in 5-6 years.
When do you plan on building it?
Start of december
Do you plan on overclocking?
Yes
Do you need an Operating System?
Yes, Windows 7 Basic.
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No.
Where are you buying your parts from?
Local computer parts mall (Sim Lim Square, for singaporeans)
Here are some parts and local prices I've found, I can probably get a bit of discount here and there.
Price - Part
526 - MSI P67A-GD80-B3 P67/DDR3/PCI-E/GBL/2xUSB3.0 + i5 2500K
325 - LG 24" LED
255 - MSI HD6870 1GB Twin FRozer II
388 - KINGSTON HYPER-X 120GB SATA3 SSD 2.5"
100 - 4x4GB PC3-10666/1333MHZ CORSAIR DDR3
179 - LG 12X BLU-RAY COMBO (CH12LS28)
100 - Coolermaster Chassis
50 - Fan
Are the parts compatible? If yes, are they overkill? I'm planning to use my current power supply. I have an internal 1TB HDD and 1TB external HDD for the extra storage. Planning to use my SSD for the OS and core frequented programs.
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GD80 is overkill. If you plan on spending so much money, you might as well just get a core i7 3930k and a X79 board. 16GB is overkill, if you are getting 16GB than you might as well get a core i7 since if you really need 16GB, you'll be doing enough editing to warrant the hyperthreading / hexcore. HyperX is Sandforce, Sandforce isn't associated with anything good except for speed =\
You seem to have a lot of money to spend so you might as well wait for November before planning.
Giving pricing without context is absolutely useless.
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konadora
Singapore66158 Posts
On September 28 2011 10:44 skyR wrote:
GD80 is overkill. If you plan on spending so much money, you might as well just get a core i7 3930k and a X79 board. 16GB is overkill, if you are getting 16GB than you might as well get a core i7 since if you really need 16GB, you'll be doing enough editing to warrant the hyperthreading / hexcore. HyperX is Sandforce, Sandforce isn't associated with anything good except for speed =\
You seem to have a lot of money to spend so you might as well wait for November before planning.
Giving pricing without context is absolutely useless.
I'm not really tech-savvy haha sorry, I was reading up a bit online and trying to find a balance between price and performance. I want to stick to i5 since i7 is an overkill.
Will there be enough significant changes in prices and new tech by november? Like product releases, etc?
Since 16GB is overkill, is 4GB really enough as stated in OP? Or is 8GB more than enough?
I don't really know well how each parts are dependant or linked to each other in terms of level of tech :S
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+ Show Spoiler +On September 28 2011 09:09 sisyphus. wrote:What is your budget? Less than $800 What is your resolution? Currently I am running at 1400x900, but I plan to upgrade my monitor in the near future (probably 1920x1080). What are you using it for? Mostly a gaming rig. Skyrim, Diablo III, and future SC expansions. What is your upgrade cycle? I hope for the majority of this computer to last for 3-4 years. I don't expect to be running the latest and greatest games on ultra/max settings down the road, but I do want to be able to use the majority of the build (minus an expected GPU upgrade) for several years and be able to comfortably run things on medium-high. When do you plan on building it? The next month or so. Do you plan on overclocking? No. Do you need an Operating System? No. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No. Where are you buying your parts from? Newegg. First, let me say that this thread is fantastic. I have been reading the TL forums for the last year or so and have found it to be informative even for a novice builder like myself. Thank you in advance for any help. Let me also say that my build has some potentially "unusual" choices that I will try to justify. If I am completely off base, please let me know. This will be my first build. Case: HAF 912 $59.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233*Motherboard: ASUS P8H67 $114.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131711CPU: I5-2400 $189.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074Hard Drive: Cavier Black 750GB $54.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136794RAM: Corsair XMS3 8GB 1333 $49.99 (Combo with PSU) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145315**Power Supply: Corsair TX650 V2 $84.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020&Tpk=Corsair TX650 V2CD/DVD: ASUS 24x DVD burner $18.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204GPU: Gigabyte 6870 $189.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125357Total (minus rebates and combo deals): $748.92 *I realize this motherboard might be a bit "overkill" as there are several other H61 and H67s for a lot cheaper. However, I wanted the extra two slots of RAM, the 6.0 GB SATA, and this seemed like an appropriate choice. I also preferred the 3 year warranty over the 1 year of some other brands. **I suspect this PSU is more than what I need (probably in the 450-500 range). However, I trust corsair as a brand and did not like many of the reviews for the lower-tier "builder series" referring to whining noises and other issues. I also have experience with this PSU as it is currently in another system of mine. The extra warranty is also appreciated. This PSU is currently bundled with the RAM to save $15.00. If I do not buy the PC before this deal expires, I will go with other RAM but for now, it works out to be a decent deal with the PSU I want. This mobo is 68$ and should have what you want:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157254
This GPU is only 160$ with POCO926, 140$ after MIR:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131378
This PSU is more than good enough, it's about 58 dollars with PSUSV9:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371047
This HDD is 1TB and only 50$ with EMCKAHH23:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697
Skyr, mushkins aren't 30$ anymore.
8GB RAM 40$:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313086
With this you'll save around 120$ so the total would be closer to 630 while you lose no performance.
+ Show Spoiler +On September 28 2011 10:53 konadora wrote:On September 28 2011 10:44 skyR wrote:
GD80 is overkill. If you plan on spending so much money, you might as well just get a core i7 3930k and a X79 board. 16GB is overkill, if you are getting 16GB than you might as well get a core i7 since if you really need 16GB, you'll be doing enough editing to warrant the hyperthreading / hexcore. HyperX is Sandforce, Sandforce isn't associated with anything good except for speed =\
You seem to have a lot of money to spend so you might as well wait for November before planning.
Giving pricing without context is absolutely useless. I'm not really tech-savvy haha sorry, I was reading up a bit online and trying to find a balance between price and performance. I want to stick to i5 since i7 is an overkill. Will there be enough significant changes in prices and new tech by november? Like product releases, etc? Since 16GB is overkill, is 4GB really enough as stated in OP? Or is 8GB more than enough? I don't really know well how each parts are dependant or linked to each other in terms of level of tech :S
8gb is what you should currently get and it should be around 40USD, also if directCU is cheaper than twinfrozr get that if you want a good cooler.
Get a P67pro or Extreme3 instead, that's way overkill and not good even as a combo.
Radeon 7000s will be out at least.
Get a cheaper SSD, that's overpriced, for Sandforce the current sweetspot would be Agility 3 in my opinion, if you don't trust them Crucial m4 seems to have the best price-performance ratio, though if Samsung is cheaper(normally isn't) you can get that too. 120/128gb is a good size.
There's no win7 basic it's home premium. That screen seems overpriced but maybe it's singapore pricing. That's too much for a bluray drive imo. Elaborate on the case.
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Mushkins still are $30... and please spoiler quotes in the future if you're replying to someone on the same page since ya... it just makes it easier to browse.
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Okay you're right, they're out of stock since you can't add it to your cart. NCIX has a terrible interface, oh well -_-
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On September 28 2011 11:08 skyR wrote:
Okay you're right, they're out of stock since you can't add it to your cart. NCIX has a terrible interface, oh well -_-
The stupid thing about that is that they all are still SPECIAL SUPER SALE PRICE and like the 10 products I checked are only like 1-2 dollars off now... isn't that scamming lol
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konadora
Singapore66158 Posts
On September 28 2011 10:58 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote ++ Show Spoiler +On September 28 2011 10:53 konadora wrote:On September 28 2011 10:44 skyR wrote:
GD80 is overkill. If you plan on spending so much money, you might as well just get a core i7 3930k and a X79 board. 16GB is overkill, if you are getting 16GB than you might as well get a core i7 since if you really need 16GB, you'll be doing enough editing to warrant the hyperthreading / hexcore. HyperX is Sandforce, Sandforce isn't associated with anything good except for speed =\
You seem to have a lot of money to spend so you might as well wait for November before planning.
Giving pricing without context is absolutely useless. I'm not really tech-savvy haha sorry, I was reading up a bit online and trying to find a balance between price and performance. I want to stick to i5 since i7 is an overkill. Will there be enough significant changes in prices and new tech by november? Like product releases, etc? Since 16GB is overkill, is 4GB really enough as stated in OP? Or is 8GB more than enough? I don't really know well how each parts are dependant or linked to each other in terms of level of tech :S 8gb is what you should currently get and it should be around 40USD, also if directCU is cheaper than twinfrozr get that if you want a good cooler. Get a P67pro or Extreme3 instead, that's way overkill and not good even as a combo. Radeon 7000s will be out at least. Get a cheaper SSD, that's overpriced, for Sandforce the current sweetspot would be Agility 3 in my opinion, if you don't trust them Crucial m4 seems to have the best price-performance ratio, though if Samsung is cheaper(normally isn't) you can get that too. 120/128gb is a good size. There's no win7 basic it's home premium. That screen seems overpriced but maybe it's singapore pricing. That's too much for a bluray drive imo. Elaborate on the case.
Okay, 8GB then. Since the dual-channel and triple-channel are different, do I need to get a different motherboard for it? Or can a motherboard use both dual-channel and triple-channel, as long as it's the same DDR3 it doesn't matter?
Yes I need a good cooler, I'll keep that in mind.
Between P67pro and Extreme3, what are the key differences?
Alright, I'll wait for them to be released before deciding. But I want to get the Radeon cards (initially Nvidia) because of the Eyefinity feature. Planning the get additional monitors in the future for it.
I've heard that Samsung ones are cheaper and good as well. I don't need any additional features like the SMART I've read about the recent Kingston SSDs (heard they were useless anyway), so a basic SSD will do.
Also, if I get the Win7 Home Premium, how much space will it use up in my SSD when I install it? I need additional space for frequent games and programs haha. And also, can I use it to install for parallel desktop on my mac, or do I need to get the one with multiple installation thingy?
I think I can find cheaper screens, probably $250, have to find it though.
How much should a blu-ray drive usually be?
For the case, I just want something that is black and allows good air-flow. Lighting not a necessity. Just have to look decent enough 
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