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Rachnar
France1526 Posts
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Kinetik_Inferno
United States1431 Posts
I checked everything I could think of. I checked both newegg and Amazon for prices, so I will be buying from both. Well, here you go: The Build + Show Spoiler + Case: Cooler Master SGC-6000-KXN1-GP Storm Sniper ATX Mid Tower Gaming Case (Black) Motherboard: ASRock P67 EXTREME4 GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard Processor: Intel Core i5-2500 Processor 3.3GHz 6 MB Cache Socket LGA1155 OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit - OEM Main Drive: Crucial 64 GB m4 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive SATA 6Gb/s CT064M4SSD2 Storage Drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1 TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s with NCQ 32MB Cache 3.5 Inch Internal Bare Drive ST31000524AS Graphics Card: SAPPHIRE 100312-3SR Radeon HD 6950 Dirt3 Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity PSU: SeaSonic S12II 520 Bronze 520W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply RAM: 8GB G.Skill DDR3 PC3-12800 1600MHz Sniper Series (9-9-9-24) Dual Channel kit F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR HSF: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler, RR-B10-212P-G1 Monitor: HP Promo LA2405WG LCD Monitor Disk Drive: LITE-ON Black IDE DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDP118-04 - OEM Total Cost: 1529.79$ What I was hoping to achieve with this build + Show Spoiler + I wanted a really kick-ass computer capable of handling every game on the market at max settings AND RECORD THEM with ease. I intend to do a lot of uploading and recording, and kind of dabbling into video editing, but nothing extreme. I also wanted a computer that I wouldn't get frustrated with because it was lagging or failing. I do not intend to overclock, at all. I also wanted to keep it open for upgrades, however. I have a GEN 3 motherboard so that I'm ready for the Ivy bridge processors without having to upgrade the mobo. The motherboard's also has tons of features, most of them I'll need, and several more that I might in the future, so I have options. I got a P67 because the Radeon 6950 will handle everything I'm going to throw at it, and from what I understand, limiting only discrete graphics cards to graphics processing will allow the CPU to process CPU tasks, and nothing else. Any advice on fine-tuning this build is greatly appreciated! Also please check the compatibility of the parts as my expertise is fairly limited and I may have missed something. Thanks to all who helped me with this and fed me all the advice and information I needed! | ||
Rachnar
France1526 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Z68 lucid technology just switches between GPUs to save power.. it has nothing to do with offloading processing tasks to the CPU or GPU. I don't know why you're buying Snipers when regular GSkills are like $33 right now... I don't know why you're getting Windows 7 Professional. If you really needed the features provided by Professional, I would think you would have other means to get it for free or at a discounted price. | ||
Kinetik_Inferno
United States1431 Posts
On September 24 2011 03:22 skyR wrote: I don't understand why you're getting an aftermarket heatsink and wasting money on an expensive P67 motherboard but not getting a K suffix processor? Ivybridge is on LGA1155... I'm quite certain that most if not all boards are capable of supporting it but you can fall into the marketing of motherboard manufacturers / waste money to be safe if you'd like. I don't really understand your philosophy behind not overclocking and than upgrading to Ivybridge. An overclocked 2500k will most likely be on par with non-overclocked Ivybridge performance... Maybe I just don't understand why someone would upgrade a processor every tick tock cycle. Z68 lucid technology just switches between GPUs to save power.. it has nothing to do with offloading processing tasks to the CPU or GPU. I don't know why you're buying Snipers when regular GSkills are like $33 right now... I don't know why you're getting Windows 7 Professional. If you really needed the features provided by Professional, I would think you would have other means to get it for free or at a discounted price. Ok, I'll go i5 2500k and Windows 7 HP then. by regular GSkills, do you mean the Ripjaws? Cause those are the only other GSkill Rams sticks I can find. Nvm I found them. But the question still stands. The regular GSkills are all either DDR2 and 1GB or DDR3 and 2GB. Do you mean that I should get 4 sticks of DDR3 2gb? | ||
skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Kinetik_Inferno
United States1431 Posts
On September 24 2011 04:04 skyR wrote: What? There is def a 2x4gb kit from gskill for under 40. Im on a phone right now so cant link you. Wait, is it these? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231422&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Memory (Desktop Memory)-_-G.SKILL-_-20231422 | ||
Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On September 24 2011 03:11 Kinetik_Inferno wrote: I've finalized a build! Thank god this hell of figuring out a computer is finally over (that is, if you guys don't find any issues). I checked everything I could think of. I checked both newegg and Amazon for prices, so I will be buying from both. Well, here you go: The Build + Show Spoiler + Case: Cooler Master SGC-6000-KXN1-GP Storm Sniper ATX Mid Tower Gaming Case (Black) Motherboard: ASRock P67 EXTREME4 GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard Processor: Intel Core i5-2500 Processor 3.3GHz 6 MB Cache Socket LGA1155 OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit - OEM Main Drive: Crucial 64 GB m4 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive SATA 6Gb/s CT064M4SSD2 Storage Drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1 TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s with NCQ 32MB Cache 3.5 Inch Internal Bare Drive ST31000524AS Graphics Card: SAPPHIRE 100312-3SR Radeon HD 6950 Dirt3 Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity PSU: SeaSonic S12II 520 Bronze 520W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply RAM: 8GB G.Skill DDR3 PC3-12800 1600MHz Sniper Series (9-9-9-24) Dual Channel kit F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR HSF: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler, RR-B10-212P-G1 Monitor: HP Promo LA2405WG LCD Monitor Disk Drive: LITE-ON Black IDE DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDP118-04 - OEM Total Cost: 1529.79$ What I was hoping to achieve with this build + Show Spoiler + I wanted a really kick-ass computer capable of handling every game on the market at max settings AND RECORD THEM with ease. I intend to do a lot of uploading and recording, and kind of dabbling into video editing, but nothing extreme. I also wanted a computer that I wouldn't get frustrated with because it was lagging or failing. I do not intend to overclock, at all. I also wanted to keep it open for upgrades, however. I have a GEN 3 motherboard so that I'm ready for the Ivy bridge processors without having to upgrade the mobo. The motherboard's also has tons of features, most of them I'll need, and several more that I might in the future, so I have options. I got a P67 because the Radeon 6950 will handle everything I'm going to throw at it, and from what I understand, limiting only discrete graphics cards to graphics processing will allow the CPU to process CPU tasks, and nothing else. Any advice on fine-tuning this build is greatly appreciated! Also please check the compatibility of the parts as my expertise is fairly limited and I may have missed something. Thanks to all who helped me with this and fed me all the advice and information I needed! Then you shouldn't get that CPU, mobo, or that cooler. By the way, 300 dollars for a 1920x1080 screen is way more than what I'd pay but I guess it's your choice. Also get the Gigabyte factory overclocked card instead of Sapphire, on newegg its 240$ 220$ after mailin rebate and has a decent overclock and a great cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125385 Change your mobo into this as you won't overclock: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157254 Change your cpu into the i5 2500 without k, 195$ with promo EMCKAHK26: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115073 This ram is 38$ with promo code EMCKAHH27: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231422 Change Professional to windows home premium, it's really only useful if you need more than 16GB of ram or if you need the extra features that tend to be useless. Storage drive doesn't require 7200 RPM but the deal is fine so not too much wrong with that. However, this HDD is 500GB larger for only 5$ more with promo code EMCKAHH25: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148725 This PSU is completely fine at 55$ and you get 10% off with promo code PSUSV9 and another 10$ after mail-in rebate, making it cost only around 41$: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817815009 I don't understand why you think you need a Storm Sniper that costs 140$ when you're not even overclocking, something like CM 690 II Advanced is more than good enough at 90$, 80 after MIR: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119216 It puzzles me that you had supposedly asked around and still had a lot of glaring flaws in your build like a K-suffix processor and aftermarket cooler when you're not overclocking. Anything I missed? | ||
Wabbit
United States1028 Posts
On September 24 2011 04:20 Kinetik_Inferno wrote: Wait, is it these? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231422&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Memory (Desktop Memory)-_-G.SKILL-_-20231422 Yes, perfect. Probably the cheapest 1333MHz 1.5V 2x4GB you can find. | ||
Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On September 24 2011 04:24 Wabbit wrote: Yes, perfect. Probably the cheapest 1333MHz 1.5V 2x4GB you can find. Right that's true, so the 30$ set is inferior because it's higher voltage right? How detremential is it to him as he's not overclocking? Worth 8 dollars? | ||
FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On September 24 2011 04:29 Shikyo wrote: Right that's true, so the 30$ set is inferior because it's higher voltage right? How detremential is it to him as he's not overclocking? Worth 8 dollars? Yes. While 1.65V is actually still very much usable from what I'm aware it's generally, especially in these forums, recommended against if you're going sandybridge. | ||
Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On September 24 2011 04:35 FabledIntegral wrote: Yes. While 1.65V is actually still very much usable from what I'm aware it's generally, especially in these forums, recommended against if you're going sandybridge. Well I've read that it works on sandybridge yes, but what exactly makes it worth the 8 dollars is what I'm interested in? That's a 26.667% increase in cost, is the performance increase anywhere near that? Is it less stable? Keep in mind we're not overclocking here | ||
FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On September 24 2011 04:44 Shikyo wrote: Well I've read that it works on sandybridge yes, but what exactly makes it worth the 8 dollars is what I'm interested in? That's a 26.667% increase in cost, is the performance increase anywhere near that? Is it less stable? Keep in mind we're not overclocking here I don't believe it has any effect on performance, but rather on that 1.65V is borderline pushing it with Sandybridge as to what's acceptable and could potentially have negative impacts its lifespan. Not completely sure, that's what I've gathered from reading this thread over time, haven't actually read any articles. | ||
Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Kinetik_Inferno
United States1431 Posts
On September 24 2011 04:22 Shikyo wrote: Then you shouldn't get that CPU, mobo, or that cooler. By the way, 300 dollars for a 1920x1080 screen is way more than what I'd pay but I guess it's your choice. Also get the Gigabyte factory overclocked card instead of Sapphire, on newegg its 240$ 220$ after mailin rebate and has a decent overclock and a great cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125385 Change your mobo into this as you won't overclock: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157254 Change your cpu into the i5 2500 without k, 195$ with promo EMCKAHK26: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115073 This ram is 38$ with promo code EMCKAHH27: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231422 Change Professional to windows home premium, it's really only useful if you need more than 16GB of ram or if you need the extra features that tend to be useless. Storage drive doesn't require 7200 RPM but the deal is fine so not too much wrong with that. However, this HDD is 500GB larger for only 5$ more with promo code EMCKAHH25: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148725 This PSU is completely fine at 55$ and you get 10% off with promo code PSUSV9 and another 10$ after mail-in rebate, making it cost only around 41$: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817815009 I don't understand why you think you need a Storm Sniper that costs 140$ when you're not even overclocking, something like CM 690 II Advanced is more than good enough at 90$, 80 after MIR: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119216 It puzzles me that you had supposedly asked around and still had a lot of glaring flaws in your build like a K-suffix processor and aftermarket cooler when you're not overclocking. Anything I missed? Thank you very much! You probably saved me 100 dollars right there. What Monitor would you suggest for 1920x1200? I don't care if it has a glossy screen or not, nor do I care if it has HDMI as long as it has DVI. I'll be using headsets/separate speakers anyway. | ||
Thorakh
Netherlands1788 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Total cost: - 983,82 (All prices are in Euros) CPU: Intel Processor Core i5-2500, s1155 - 171,98 GPU: Asus Radeon 6970 DCII,2GB - 315,98 RAM: Corsair Memory XMS3 DDR3,1333-8GB KIT - 40,98 SSD: Crucial Solid State Drive m4 - 128GB - 2.5inch - 163,98 HDD: Samsung Hard Disk Spinpoint EcoGreen F4 - 2TB - 62,98 Optical Drive: Samsung DVD-ROM 16X,SATA - 18,99 Motherboard: Asus P8H67 B3,s1155 - 84,95 PSU: Corsair CX 500WATT V2 - 53,98 Case: ? - ~70,00 How much performance would overclocking an i5-2500K yield me? Would it be worth it to change my build to this: + Show Spoiler + Total cost: - 1015,85 (All prices are in Euros) CPU: Intel Processor Core i5-2500K, s1155 - 180,98 GPU: Asus Radeon 6970 DCII,2GB - 315,98 RAM: Corsair Memory XMS3 DDR3,1333-8GB KIT - 40,98 SSD: Crucial Solid State Drive m4 - 128GB - 2.5inch - 163,98 HDD: Samsung Hard Disk Spinpoint EcoGreen F4 - 2TB - 62,98 Optical Drive: Samsung DVD-ROM 16X,SATA - 18,99 Motherboard: Asus P8P67 B3,s1155 - 107,98 PSU: Corsair CX 500WATT V2 - 53,98 Case: ? - ~70,00 Does the new motherboard I picked accomodate overclocking a 2500K and would I need additional cooling (the only cooling in this build right now is the stock cooling) and/or a more powerful powersupply? How much overclock would I be looking at? 4 GHz? 4.5 GHz? Would the result be noticable and worth the extra cost or am I better off saving the money to buy a new CPU in one or two years? | ||
Wabbit
United States1028 Posts
On September 24 2011 05:17 Thorakh wrote: How much performance would overclocking an i5-2500K yield me? Would it be worth it to change my build to this: Does the new motherboard I picked accomodate overclocking a 2500K and would I need additional cooling (the only cooling in this build right now is the stock cooling) and/or a more powerful powersupply? How much overclock would I be looking at? 4 GHz? 4.5 GHz? Would the result be noticable and worth the extra cost or am I better off saving the money to buy a new CPU in one or two years? The performance depends on the game/app (SC2 benefits quite a bit). It has recently been discussed in another thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=267778 | ||
Thorakh
Netherlands1788 Posts
On September 24 2011 05:38 Wabbit wrote: It's not just to play SC2, it's to play any game that comes out in the near future on max settings The performance depends on the game/app (SC2 benefits quite a bit). It has recently been discussed in another thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=267778 ![]() | ||
Wabbit
United States1028 Posts
On September 24 2011 05:43 Thorakh wrote:It's not just to play SC2, it's to play any game that comes out in the near future on max settings ![]() SC2 is one of the most CPU-demanding games around. Some others (like Metro 2033 with PhysX enabled to be done by the CPU) also benefit greatly. An i5 2500 will handle those games just fine without minimum frame rates dropping low. New games will probably be fine for a while as well (if your goal is to maintain FPS as close to or over 60 as possible) However, in my personal opinion, OC is a $100 investment now that's worth it because: 1) While Ivy Bridge will most likely also be on the same 1155 socket, you'd have to spend an extra ~$200+ (on an IB CPU) to see a noticeable difference over a Sandy bridge CPU you can get now for the same ~$200, and it's unlikely the performance difference will be over 20% or so 2) OC'ing can give you like 30% or more performance now as opposed to later (in games that are CPU bottlenecked, which may happen because you're getting a 6970), for less price, and as long as you don't go overboard on the OC, the CPU's lifespan will probably not be shortened enough before you want to replace it again (4-5 years). 3) Your budget seems to allow for it. | ||
Thorakh
Netherlands1788 Posts
On September 24 2011 05:53 Wabbit wrote: Alright, thanks SC2 is one of the most CPU-demanding games around. Some others (like Metro 2033 with PhysX enabled to be done by the CPU) also benefit greatly. An i5 2500 will handle those games just fine without minimum frame rates dropping low. New games will probably be fine for a while as well (if your goal is to maintain FPS as close to or over 60 as possible) However, in my personal opinion, OC is a $100 investment now that's worth it because: 1) While Ivy Bridge will most likely also be on the same 1155 socket, you'd have to spend an extra ~$200+ (on an IB CPU) to see a noticeable difference over a Sandy bridge CPU you can get now for the same ~$200, and it's unlikely the performance difference will be over 20% or so 2) OC'ing can give you like 30% or more performance now as opposed to later (in games that are CPU bottlenecked, which may happen because you're getting a 6970), for less price, and as long as you don't go overboard on the OC, the CPU's lifespan will probably not be shortened enough before you want to replace it again (4-5 years). 3) Your budget seems to allow for it. ![]() How much could I reliable overclock an i5-2500K for? Would I need additional cooling (A fan? A heatsink?) for a reliable overclock and if so, what would be recommended? Is the 500W PSU I included in my build enough and is the motherboard I picked a good choice? | ||
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