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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Bambipwnsu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada698 Posts
September 23 2011 03:45 GMT
#11821
can you not just pricematch NCIX with newegg.ca?

Deal on the graphics card is redic...
LoL @ NA: bambipwnsu
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 23 2011 03:48 GMT
#11822
NCIX accepts Newegg pricematches but they don't accept promo codes.
Bambipwnsu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada698 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 04:06:09
September 23 2011 03:55 GMT
#11823
nvm swap case out with this one:

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12650AC7087&vpn=CS-51WBK&manufacture=LOGISYS

comes with PSU and free shipping

Is it possible to go under 200$ before shipping? Sitting at around 20$ overboard with the 20$ saved on GPU.
LoL @ NA: bambipwnsu
Pigbimping
Profile Joined September 2011
United States4 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 07:07:55
September 23 2011 04:23 GMT
#11824
I need a PC build for a gaming computer that I can upgrade in the near future, I have a budget of 1000 usd but I'll be happy if i can get a quality machine for less and than upgrade soon or later. I dont want to overclock but i m willing to hear suggestions. I have access to Newegg and I would like to use as best of parts I can but I don't know if they will all work together, I have been thumbing through and reading the parts but It just isnt adding up for me so please could you overlook my stupidity and reflect some guidance? (monitor/res is also up in the air) have keyboard/mouse)

Signed,
Doofus
Those who are still intruiged of something have yet to be graced by the proper experience.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 23 2011 05:01 GMT
#11825
On September 23 2011 12:55 Bambipwnsu wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
nvm swap case out with this one:

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12650AC7087&vpn=CS-51WBK&manufacture=LOGISYS

comes with PSU and free shipping

Is it possible to go under 200$ before shipping? Sitting at around 20$ overboard with the 20$ saved on GPU.


Your only options of reducing the total would be:

- Buy from RFD
- Wait for another sale or promotion (potential to increase total as well).
- Don't use a case or get a case for free from somewhere.
- Don't get a GPU.
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
September 23 2011 06:02 GMT
#11826
hey skyr. thanks for helping with my computer
“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
modipeluri
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland17 Posts
September 23 2011 07:41 GMT
#11827
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 22 2011 18:38 modipeluri wrote:
What is your budget?
900€ for the computer, 200€ the screen

What is your resolution?
1920x1080px

What are you using it for?
Playing SC II and D3. I work as a web designer so running photoshop smooth is important.

What is your upgrade cycle?
I'd say around 4 years, or when the computer can't handle modern software anymore

When do you plan on building it?
This week

Do you plan on overclocking?
Yes, I haven't done it before but I'd like to give it a try.

Do you need an Operating System?
No need for OS.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No, unless I happen to get lucky and win a new card from the upcoming LAN event in my hometown

Where are you buying your parts from?
I'm based in Finland but I'll be ordering from http://www.mindfactory.de since it's quite a bit cheaper than finnish e-shops.

I've been stalking this thread for a long time and here's what I've come up with. It's mostly what you guys have been recommending to other people but since were talking about such large amounts of money here I wanted to be absolute certain before purchasing.

CPU:
Intel Core i5 2500K 4x 3.30GHz So.1155 BOX € 179,45*

HD
1000GB Samsung EcoGreen F3 HD105SI 32MB 3.5" (8.9cm) SATA 3Gb/s € 49,56*

GPU
1024MB EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB Aktiv PCIe 2.0 x16 (Retail) € 198,11*

SSD
128GB Crucial m4 SSD CT128M4SSD2 2.5" (6.4cm) SATA 6Gb/s MLC synchron € 157,35*

RAM
8GB TeamGroup Elite DDR3-1333 DIMM CL9 Dual Kit € 32,90*

PSU
550W XFX PRO550W Core Edition ATX € 58,36*

MOBO
Asus P8P67 P67 Sockel 1155 ATX Rev3 € 104,95*

DVD
Samsung DVDRW SATA 22x SH-222AB bare / black € 15,21*

Case
ATX Antec Gamer Case Three Hundred Midi Tower o.NT Schwarz € 47,90*

Cooling
Xigmatek Gaia AMD und Intel 754, 939, 940, AM2, AM2+, AM3, 775, 1156, 1366 € 26,12*

Screen
http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/46573/dbdnt/Asus-24-VE247H-Full-HD-LED-naytto

What do you guys think about this? I use a lot of photoshop. Would a GTX 560 with 2gb of memory benefit me greatly over the 1gb version? Also, The GTX 560 cards vary from 160€ to 260€, how do I know which one I should get? I'd be interested looking into overclocking so I'm guessing I should take a non-OC'd version?

Thank you!




I take it that my build is good since nobody has commented on it
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 07:50:18
September 23 2011 07:50 GMT
#11828
Pretty much, the build itself is fine. 2GB graphics cards are pointless, don't bother with it. GPU brand doesn't really matter too much, the only difference between GPU brands is that EVGA has the best warranty.

Personally, I wouldn't bother with overclocking the GPU. Potentially risky business, heat and power draw rises quite rapidly, etc. for not too much benefit. Starcraft II and Diablo 3 won't really benefit all that much and Photoshop will benefit even less from it.
modipeluri
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland17 Posts
September 23 2011 09:11 GMT
#11829
On September 23 2011 16:50 Womwomwom wrote:
Pretty much, the build itself is fine. 2GB graphics cards are pointless, don't bother with it. GPU brand doesn't really matter too much, the only difference between GPU brands is that EVGA has the best warranty.

Personally, I wouldn't bother with overclocking the GPU. Potentially risky business, heat and power draw rises quite rapidly, etc. for not too much benefit. Starcraft II and Diablo 3 won't really benefit all that much and Photoshop will benefit even less from it.


Big thanks! It's a relief to get a confirmation. And now to order >>>
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
September 23 2011 09:51 GMT
#11830
Do people usually order their computer from one site? I've found ordering from 3-4 can reduce the cost with about 5-10 % even when you factor in the shipping costs. Especially if you take advantage of sales and rebate codes for the different sites. Is it more of a convenience thing?
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
September 23 2011 10:48 GMT
#11831
Some countries don't really have sales or rebate codes (Australia). And depending on how good the store is, its easier just dealing with a single entity especially if they do price matching (NCIX in Canada). I get all of my stuff in one delivery and if anything is DOA/damaged in shipping, its easier to deal with one entity than many.

In Australia though, you almost always want to deal with PCCG instead of MSY or CPL even if they are more expensive. If anything goes wrong with your hardware, PCCG will somewhat help you; CPL and MSY on the other hand will treat you with contempt.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
September 23 2011 11:10 GMT
#11832
Yeah, I didn't really consider those kind of differences between coutries. We don't really have much pricematching, mail-in rebates and that kind of jazz here in sweden when it comes to computer hardware online.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
September 23 2011 12:03 GMT
#11833
For everyone with GPU questions; Don't buy one, just get a 2500K and P67 MOBO, Intel HD 3000 Integrated Graphics can run sc2 at 49.8FPS on low, in "large battles".

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Core-i5-2500K-vs-Phenom-II-X4-975-BE-CPU-Review/1163/11
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
September 23 2011 12:08 GMT
#11834
Most monitors these days have a resolution of 1920x1080. The benchmark you picked out deals with a resolution of 1440x900.

Now tell me what is wrong with your statement.
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 12:18:52
September 23 2011 12:18 GMT
#11835
On September 23 2011 21:03 iTzSnypah wrote:
For everyone with GPU questions; Don't buy one, just get a 2500K and P67 MOBO, Intel HD 3000 Integrated Graphics can run sc2 at 49.8FPS on low, in "large battles".

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Core-i5-2500K-vs-Phenom-II-X4-975-BE-CPU-Review/1163/11


I'm sure you are trying to be helpful in some fashion but that was a pretty pointless post. (How exactly do that answer everyones gpu questions for one?)
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 23 2011 12:30 GMT
#11836
On September 23 2011 21:03 iTzSnypah wrote:
For everyone with GPU questions; Don't buy one, just get a 2500K and P67 MOBO, Intel HD 3000 Integrated Graphics can run sc2 at 49.8FPS on low, in "large battles".

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Core-i5-2500K-vs-Phenom-II-X4-975-BE-CPU-Review/1163/11

And the reason for not getting an i5 2400 and a GT 430 for the exact same price is...?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
September 23 2011 14:18 GMT
#11837
On September 23 2011 21:03 iTzSnypah wrote:
For everyone with GPU questions; Don't buy one, just get a 2500K and P67 MOBO, Intel HD 3000 Integrated Graphics can run sc2 at 49.8FPS on low, in "large battles".

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Core-i5-2500K-vs-Phenom-II-X4-975-BE-CPU-Review/1163/11


And what about those of us who want to play on settings that don't look like warcraft 1?
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
September 23 2011 14:18 GMT
#11838
On September 23 2011 21:30 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2011 21:03 iTzSnypah wrote:
For everyone with GPU questions; Don't buy one, just get a 2500K and P67 MOBO, Intel HD 3000 Integrated Graphics can run sc2 at 49.8FPS on low, in "large battles".

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Core-i5-2500K-vs-Phenom-II-X4-975-BE-CPU-Review/1163/11

And the reason for not getting an i5 2400 and a GT 430 for the exact same price is...?


2400 sucks compared to a 2500k, plus with the 2400, not an option to oc (well isn't easy), since you dont have to run power to a gpu, you save energy... PLUS its cheaper, and when you want to upgrade it, you have a nice platform...
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 23 2011 14:20 GMT
#11839
On September 23 2011 23:18 iTzSnypah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2011 21:30 Shikyo wrote:
On September 23 2011 21:03 iTzSnypah wrote:
For everyone with GPU questions; Don't buy one, just get a 2500K and P67 MOBO, Intel HD 3000 Integrated Graphics can run sc2 at 49.8FPS on low, in "large battles".

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Core-i5-2500K-vs-Phenom-II-X4-975-BE-CPU-Review/1163/11

And the reason for not getting an i5 2400 and a GT 430 for the exact same price is...?


2400 sucks compared to a 2500k, plus with the 2400, not an option to oc (well isn't easy), since you dont have to run power to a gpu, you save energy... PLUS its cheaper, and when you want to upgrade it, you have a nice platform...

So basically what you are telling me is that a person who is interested in overclocking his 2500k is not going to buy a graphics card?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Bambipwnsu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada698 Posts
September 23 2011 14:29 GMT
#11840
On September 23 2011 23:18 iTzSnypah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2011 21:30 Shikyo wrote:
On September 23 2011 21:03 iTzSnypah wrote:
For everyone with GPU questions; Don't buy one, just get a 2500K and P67 MOBO, Intel HD 3000 Integrated Graphics can run sc2 at 49.8FPS on low, in "large battles".

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Core-i5-2500K-vs-Phenom-II-X4-975-BE-CPU-Review/1163/11

And the reason for not getting an i5 2400 and a GT 430 for the exact same price is...?


2400 sucks compared to a 2500k, plus with the 2400, not an option to oc (well isn't easy), since you dont have to run power to a gpu, you save energy... PLUS its cheaper, and when you want to upgrade it, you have a nice platform...


Doesn't matter that a 2500k is better than a 2400 when your capped to 50 apm from integrated graphics...makes sense right?
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