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Legatus Lanius
2135 Posts
On September 23 2011 23:18 ensign_lee wrote: And what about those of us who want to play on settings that don't look like warcraft 1? buy a discrete card, obviously | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On September 23 2011 13:23 Pigbimping wrote:+ Show Spoiler + I need a PC build for a gaming computer that I can upgrade in the near future, I have a budget of 1000 usd but I'll be happy if i can get a quality machine for less and than upgrade soon or later. I dont want to overclock but i m willing to hear suggestions. I have access to Newegg and I would like to use as best of parts I can but I don't know if they will all work together, I have been thumbing through and reading the parts but It just isnt adding up for me so please could you overlook my stupidity and reflect some guidance? (monitor/res is also up in the air) have keyboard/mouse) Signed, Doofus Here's an overclockable configuration for $932 before mail in rebates, capable of playing current and upcoming games on reasonably high settings at 1080p: Intel Core i5 2500k & Samsung Spinpoint F4 1.5tb @ $260 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.724565 Sapphire Radeon HD6870 @ $170 ($150 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948 GSkill 2x4gb @ $38 (with promo code EMCKAHH27, ends 9/28) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231422 Asrock P67 Pro3 @ $120 ($110 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230 Samsung 470 Series 128gb @ $183 (with promo code HARDOCPX921F, ends 9/27) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147125 Antec Earthwatts 500D @ $55, $45 after mail in rebate (with promo code EMCKAHH43, ends 9/28) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371035 + Show Spoiler + or if you want to deal with mail in rebates, Antec Earthwatts 650 for $60, $40 after mail in rebate (with promo code EMCKAHK22, ends 9/26) Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $60 ($50 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233 DVD Burner @ $18 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136238 Xigmatek Gaia @ $28 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082 | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
On September 23 2011 23:18 iTzSnypah wrote: 2400 sucks compared to a 2500k, plus with the 2400, not an option to oc (well isn't easy), since you dont have to run power to a gpu, you save energy... PLUS its cheaper, and when you want to upgrade it, you have a nice platform... You are funny... | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
It's 5 dollars more and afaik 560 is marginally better than 6870(like 1 fps) so I'm not sure. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On September 23 2011 23:18 iTzSnypah wrote: 2400 sucks compared to a 2500k, plus with the 2400, not an option to oc (well isn't easy), since you dont have to run power to a gpu, you save energy... PLUS its cheaper, and when you want to upgrade it, you have a nice platform... So, if you can afford a decent Z68 board and a 2500k, and care about performance enough to OC the 2500k... you can't afford a discrete GPU, and don't care about performance enough to get a discrete GPU? Or something like that? | ||
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Rachnar
France1526 Posts
On September 24 2011 00:31 JingleHell wrote: So, if you can afford a decent Z68 board and a 2500k, and care about performance enough to OC the 2500k... you can't afford a discrete GPU, and don't care about performance enough to get a discrete GPU? Or something like that? JingleHell : 1 iTzSnypah : -1 Seriously the i5-2400 is damn good for like ... 99% of users who don't want to OC and oc'ing costs like 20$ more for the cpu, 50? for the mobo, and 30 for a good heatsink, that's 100$, the price of a GTS450 ... | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On September 24 2011 00:53 Rachnar wrote: JingleHell : 1 iTzSnypah : -1 Seriously the i5-2400 is damn good for like ... 99% of users who don't want to OC and oc'ing costs like 20$ more for the cpu, 50? for the mobo, and 30 for a good heatsink, that's 100$, the price of a GTS450 ... Hey I deserve some points too! Also you're right, with the GT430 I was assuming no heatsink but now that Im thinking, who gets a 2500k without a heatsink? Probably the same guy who gets one without a GPU. | ||
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Westerhound
Finland69 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + MOBO - AsRock P67 Pro3 B3 LGA1155 CPU - Intel Core i5 2500K GPU - GeForce GTX 560 Ti Twin Frozr II or GeForce GTX 560 Ti Hawk RAM - G.Skill 8GB Dual Kit Ripjaws-X PSU - XFX Core Edition 550W, ATX, 80+ Bronze HDD - Samsung Spinpoint 1TB, 32MB, SATA2 CASE - Antec Three Hundred Few questions: Is the Twin Frozr (II or Hawk) worth it, and is the Hawk worth like 20-30€ more than the TF2 (herp derp team fortress 2) for me, or is something else bottlenecking the system? Also, I was looking at the recommended heatsinks for LGA1155, but most that were recommended (CM 212+, Xigmatek Gaia etc) are only LGA1156 when I checked them, so Im kind of confused now :I Is a 550W PSU enough for the system? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
The difference between the Twin Frozr II and Twin Frozr III heatsink is like meh... Twin Frozr III would only be worth it imo if you plan on doing some absurd overclock or just like the darker shade of silver (I'll admit it looks nice)? Whether Twin Frozr II is worth it over another GTX 560 Ti depends on the pricing... It's similar / slightly better than Gigabyte Windforce and ASUS DirectCu II. Yes, the XFX Core Edition 550w is more than enough for such a configuration. A GTX 560 Ti uses roughly 160w while a 2500k uses roughly 60w, both under load. You'll never come close to 500w until you upgrade to a GTX 790 or w/e the next flagship dual GPU will be. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On September 24 2011 01:05 Shikyo wrote: Hey I deserve some points too! Also you're right, with the GT430 I was assuming no heatsink but now that Im thinking, who gets a 2500k without a heatsink? Probably the same guy who gets one without a GPU. Sorry, zero points for suggesting an i5 and an HTPC GPU. Be glad you don't lose them instead. | ||
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Bambipwnsu
Canada698 Posts
Important part of a computer build....right? :p | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On September 24 2011 01:15 JingleHell wrote: Sorry, zero points for suggesting an i5 and an HTPC GPU. Be glad you don't lose them instead. It was about running SC2 on low in 1920x1080 wasnt it e_e Btw how well does Noctua NH-D14 cool when you attach a push-pull setup with 8000RPM 250CFM Deltas? | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On September 24 2011 01:41 Shikyo wrote: It was about running SC2 on low in 1920x1080 wasnt it e_e Btw how well does Noctua NH-D14 cool when you attach a push-pull setup with 8000RPM 250CFM Deltas? If you want to just scrape by on performance, a G850 or i3 2100 makes much more sense than an i5 anything. Regardless of GPU. Unless you're planning to casually and occasionally play SC2 on your HTPC that you also rip and encode DVDs/Blu-Rays on, and really don't mind low settings, a 430 with an i5 just doesn't make sense. If you want discrete graphics with an i5, you generally want more than a 430. As for the Noctua question, I'm sure you can google just as well as anyone, find it yourself. I doubt anyone knows that or has a bench for it to hand. | ||
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Kinetik_Inferno
United States1431 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On September 24 2011 01:57 JingleHell wrote: If you want to just scrape by on performance, a G850 or i3 2100 makes much more sense than an i5 anything. Regardless of GPU. Unless you're planning to casually and occasionally play SC2 on your HTPC that you also rip and encode DVDs/Blu-Rays on, and really don't mind low settings, a 430 with an i5 just doesn't make sense. If you want discrete graphics with an i5, you generally want more than a 430. As for the Noctua question, I'm sure you can google just as well as anyone, find it yourself. I doubt anyone knows that or has a bench for it to hand. Well SC2 is CPU-limited and it doesn't really change too much with the graphics settings as the calculations are still going to be similiar and that's enough to run SC2 in 1080p on low with 60+ fps and you prolly would have complained to me about i3 2100 being too little for SC2 anyway so. | ||
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Rachnar
France1526 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On September 24 2011 02:00 Shikyo wrote: Well SC2 is CPU-limited and it doesn't really change too much with the graphics settings as the calculations are still going to be similiar and that's enough to run SC2 in 1080p on low with 60+ fps and you prolly would have complained to me about i3 2100 being too little for SC2 anyway so. Urrm, no. Don't go putting words in my mouth, I don't know where your hands have been, or particularly want to find out. I usually have people try to argue against i3 2100's on a lower budget, because people think you need an extra 17 cores and 47terabytes of RAM to run iTunes in the background. And actually, the CPU requirements change fairly significantly from low to ultra on the CPU settings. Or were you not aware of those? Unless you're building a PC with the sole intention of playing SC2 and never trying any other games, which is unlikely, a GTS 430 isn't going to do shit, besides play movies. | ||
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
On September 24 2011 02:00 Shikyo wrote: Well SC2 is CPU-limited and it doesn't really change too much with the graphics settings as the calculations are still going to be similiar and that's enough to run SC2 in 1080p on low with 60+ fps and you prolly would have complained to me about i3 2100 being too little for SC2 anyway so. since your talking about the i3 2100's, what is the difference between the 2105 and the 2125?? they have exactly the same features but the 25? has .2ghz more...OH and BTW the 2105 and 2125 have HD 3000 integrated graphics...so they could run sc2 on low in large battles at 49.8 fps too... | ||
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
On September 23 2011 23:33 skyR wrote: Antec Earthwatts 500D @ $55, $45 after mail in rebate (with promo code EMCKAHH43, ends 9/28) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371035 The XFC Core Ediction PRO550W http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207013 is $70, $55 after mail in rebate (ends 9/30) + with the promo code: newcustomer10, you can get $10 off any purchase above $50... this one is Bronze 80 certified...plus the extra 50w is good, you can oc a lil' more witout having to worry about enough power. | ||
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