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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-14 23:50:26
September 14 2011 23:30 GMT
#11281
On September 15 2011 07:44 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 07:11 InDaHouse wrote:
Which is the most priceworthy motherboard for Intel i7 2600k?
  • I have Nvidia Gtx 460 already (so will not buy a new graphiccard)
  • Gonna buy Intel 510 SSD disk
  • Will probably buy 8 gig ram.


Edit: I will not overclock.
Edit2: Intel i72600k


question: Why do you have 2600k if you won't overclock? Pick some 60-70$ mobo that has the features you want, any modern mobo functions well with SSD.


Sidenote, I was looking up a PC for my friend and came up on this http://www.netanttila.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=715672&storeId=1444&catalogId=1444&shopId=19651&compartmentId=20152&categoryId=31151

Now this seems pretty insane for 700 euros. HD 5850 is a pretty good graphics card worth maybe 150€+ though it's available nowhere, the processor is still a 150€, 1TB 7200 rpm HDD is 50, Mobo + ram totals about 130, case and PSU another 100+, Windows 7 is 90€ and that's already almost 700 ... I've never seen this good a deal for prebuilt computers o.O


Are prices really that expensive there? :o

EDIT: omg triple post mods plz don't ban me T_T

The processor isn't that relevant that it still costs 150€, what's more relevant is that you could get a sandybridge i5 with better performance iwth hat same 150€. The 5850 is fairly decent although 150€ sounds pricey, as it's around $150 USD. The RAM is pretty shity. PSU is a 500W noname brand.





In order to look less retarded with the trip post, if anyone is looking for a budget build with a decent GPU, saw this on slickdeals

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=AT-HD6770&c=CJ

Sapphire Radeon HD6770 1GB DDR5 PCI-Express Video Card for $117 - $15 with coupon code SIZZLE - $20 mail-in rebate = $82. Shipping is $1.50

(although shipping says 2.50 on the actual site!)
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
September 14 2011 23:31 GMT
#11282
I think all of us who bought 1366 is kind of kicking ourselves in the butt a little bit. It was/is still fun though. Bragging rights... if you're into that kind of thing.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-14 23:32:43
September 14 2011 23:31 GMT
#11283
On September 15 2011 08:05 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 07:48 JingleHell wrote:
@shikyo
You can't look at what the parts sell for when judging previous generations. Maybe that's why you think AMD is good. You can build much better with current generation parts for that. It's what, a bit over a grand American, with parts costing ~15-20% more, right? So you should be able to get H61, i5 2400, 4-8GB DDR3 1333, and a GTX 460 1GB for that, with money left over to put into a decent quality case, HDD, and whatnot.
Oh I don't think AMD is good, just cost-effective to a certain point. Well let me see what that'd cost from a Finnish online store(he won't buy stuff from abroad):

460€( with GTX 460 being inferior to 5850. As for processors, 2400 is obviously better but the 650 still does about as well as a i3-2100), then we got windows 7 OEM which is 100€, and then we've got 140€ to go for the case, PSU, DVD-RW drive, mouse, keyboard, and the trouble. Warranty and support probably are worth something as well.

See why I think this is a good deal?


460 1GB isn't so terribly far behind 5850 that I'd be concerned, they both pretty much either play or don't the same games on the same settings, with a couple exceptions.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/164?vs=180
GTX 460 OCs well enough to cover that easily, and you can get those for cheap as hell these days.

Buying components tends to come with similar if not better warranty than buying a prebuilt.

You come out with a PC that's equal for some things, slightly better for others, on a live socket, and have better airflow from buying a good case, which lets you OC that GPU better to top the 5850.

Yes, building takes time, but if you don't have leisure time, you probably don't have use for a gaming PC.
BulletShot
Profile Joined May 2010
United States17 Posts
September 14 2011 23:49 GMT
#11284
posting again since it when to a new page and probably got missed, but hopefully maybe can help me out still

What is your budget?
Around $800, but I can go above or below that range

What is your resolution?

I have a 32inch Samsung TV I was hoping to use as my gaming monitor, which last I looked was 1920 x 1080

What are you using it for?
Mostly for gaming, playing games in the future such as Battlefield 3, Guild Wars 2, Starcraft 2, I also am in graphics design so I use a lot of Photoshop, Illustrator, and on occasion movie editing programs like Sony Vegas. Also like watching streams

What is your upgrade cycle?

Maybe 2 or more years?

When do you plan on building it?

Hopefully within the next few weeks, and if not maybe around the time of Octoberish

Do you plan on overclocking?

Probably not

Do you need an Operating System?

No

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Probably not

Where are you buying your parts from?

Probably online sites like newegg or amazon. I’m from the U.S so those are the only ones I know of for sure.
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 00:26:38
September 15 2011 00:18 GMT
#11285
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 15 2011 08:49 BulletShot wrote:
posting again since it when to a new page and probably got missed, but hopefully maybe can help me out still

What is your budget?
Around $800, but I can go above or below that range

What is your resolution?

I have a 32inch Samsung TV I was hoping to use as my gaming monitor, which last I looked was 1920 x 1080

What are you using it for?
Mostly for gaming, playing games in the future such as Battlefield 3, Guild Wars 2, Starcraft 2, I also am in graphics design so I use a lot of Photoshop, Illustrator, and on occasion movie editing programs like Sony Vegas. Also like watching streams

What is your upgrade cycle?

Maybe 2 or more years?

When do you plan on building it?

Hopefully within the next few weeks, and if not maybe around the time of Octoberish

Do you plan on overclocking?

Probably not

Do you need an Operating System?

No

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Probably not

Where are you buying your parts from?

Probably online sites like newegg or amazon. I’m from the U.S so those are the only ones I know of for sure.



CPU: Intel i5 2500k ~$220
Motherboard: ASRock P67 Pro3 ~$120
Heatsink: Get one when you actually start overclocking, use the stock one for now
Power Supply: Corsair CX500 V2 ~$60
RAM: G.Skill 2x (2x2GB) DDR 1333Mhz - 8GB Total (you could probably use more than 4GB for Photoshop, video editing, etc.) ~$53
Graphics Card: HD 6870 ~$170
Optical DVD Drive: Cheapest one you want; typically run for around ~$20
Case: Any case you want

Total: ~$653 (~$633 without Optical Drive) before Case and any shipping + rebates

If you absolutely don't want to overclock, you can get an i5 2300 (~$185) + Cheap H61/H67 motherboard (~$100) instead saving you about ~$60 or more, and do everything nearly identical to an i5 2500k build, just without the ability to overclock.

BF3 system recommended (anticipated anyways, should be less) is HD 6850 so you should be fine with an HD 6870. But you can wait a bit after release to see actual benchmarks to see which card you can actually get.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 15 2011 00:33 GMT
#11286
@BulletShot: I hope you intend to use a different display for your graphic work, Pixel density on a 32" TV is ok for gaming with a bit of AA, but it would blow for good graphics design.

Also, if you're going to use that TV at desk viewing distances, (closer than ~5-6 feet), consider spending up a tad on GPU over what you'd normally need for 1080p for those games, as the pixel density makes AA more desirable if you like higher graphics quality.

Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 15 2011 01:12 GMT
#11287
Okay I've decided to lower the overall price of the components a little bit. However, currently I'm debating wether I should crossfire these 6850s:
http://www.computeruniverse.net/products/e90411406/d2/datasheet/msi-r6850-cyclone-1gd5-power-edition

or these 6870s:
http://www.computeruniverse.net/products/e90425774/xfx-radeon-hd-6870-black-edition.asp?sr=6870

Both are factory overclocked and have gotten good reviews for their cooling and fan noise and power efficiency as well. I'm currently wondering wether or not the 6870s would be worth the extra 46 euros?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 01:56:11
September 15 2011 01:52 GMT
#11288
... I'm baffled with the idiotic pricing on computeruniverse.net and at the false advertising.

MSI doesn't have a Twin Frozr III model for the 6850. The retailer is either knowingly misleading consumers or is an idiot, you pick. edit: Oh, that's a picture of a 6950, /facepalm

At these prices, just get an ASUS DirectCu 6870: http://www.computeruniverse.net/products/e90409195/asus-eah6870-dc/2di2s/1gd5.asp?sr=6870 Why this is priced at the same price as a 6850 Cyclone is beyond my comprehension.
Bambipwnsu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada698 Posts
September 15 2011 02:08 GMT
#11289
any reason why my 2500k isn't overclocking when I open up cpu-z...but OCed in the bios? Am i missing a setting somewhere?
LoL @ NA: bambipwnsu
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 15 2011 02:09 GMT
#11290
Because you're at idle when you have CPU-Z opened?
Bambipwnsu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada698 Posts
September 15 2011 02:10 GMT
#11291
it said 3.29 on prime95 as well
LoL @ NA: bambipwnsu
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 15 2011 02:11 GMT
#11292
Did you turbo OC and turn off turbo after raising the multi?
Bambipwnsu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada698 Posts
September 15 2011 02:12 GMT
#11293
turbo boost is off and multi to 47
LoL @ NA: bambipwnsu
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 15 2011 02:13 GMT
#11294
Turbo has to be on.
Bambipwnsu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada698 Posts
September 15 2011 02:17 GMT
#11295
ok trying that now :o

also my ram doesnt want to boot on 1600 if i set the timings manually to the stock timings but xmp profiles work??
LoL @ NA: bambipwnsu
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 15 2011 02:23 GMT
#11296
Maybe because you're entering incorrect value? It's hard to say without seeing what you're actually entering into what.
Bambipwnsu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada698 Posts
September 15 2011 02:25 GMT
#11297
I selected manual and it was shown 9 9 9 24 and clicked OK
LoL @ NA: bambipwnsu
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 15 2011 02:30 GMT
#11298
Does SB have Uncore requirements for OCing RAM like Bloomfield? You may have to raise IMC voltage, and/or Vcore. Just because it's rated for 1600 doesn't mean they got 1600 at 1.5v.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 15 2011 02:32 GMT
#11299
Yes except it's called VCCIO and VCCSA.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 02:34:14
September 15 2011 02:33 GMT
#11300
I had that problem with Lynnfield processors, processor overclocking, and 1600mhz memory. Most of the time, you also have to force the basic voltage (manually input 1.5V) instead of leaving it on auto or whatever the default setting normally is.

Worked for me anyway!
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