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On September 15 2011 04:13 ThatGuy89 wrote:
I dont want any X is better then Y and whatnot.
If i buy this PC, will i be able to run SC2 perfectly on low, with 200/200 engagments not lagging at all?
CPU: AMD Phenom™II X4 850
HDD: 1TB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16M Cache Hard Drive
MEMORY: 4GB (2x2GB) PC10666 DDR3/1333mhz )
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS M5A78L-M/USB3 AMD 760G (780L) Chipset DDR3 Socket AM3+ Micro-ATX w/ 7.1 Audio, GbLAN, USB3.0, SATA-III, 1 PCIe X16, 1 PCIe X1, & 2 PCI
VIDEO: AMD Radeon HD 6450 1GB GDDR3
Probably not in big battles. It has no L3 cache so it's pretty bad even compared to other Phenoms.
Doesn't look like a very good PC to buy unless it's like... $150 or less and you're desperate.
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On September 15 2011 04:28 Wabbit wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2011 04:13 ThatGuy89 wrote:
I dont want any X is better then Y and whatnot.
If i buy this PC, will i be able to run SC2 perfectly on low, with 200/200 engagments not lagging at all?
CPU: AMD Phenom™II X4 850
HDD: 1TB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16M Cache Hard Drive
MEMORY: 4GB (2x2GB) PC10666 DDR3/1333mhz )
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS M5A78L-M/USB3 AMD 760G (780L) Chipset DDR3 Socket AM3+ Micro-ATX w/ 7.1 Audio, GbLAN, USB3.0, SATA-III, 1 PCIe X16, 1 PCIe X1, & 2 PCI
VIDEO: AMD Radeon HD 6450 1GB GDDR3
Probably not in big battles. It has no L3 cache so it's pretty bad even compared to other Phenoms. Doesn't look like a very good PC to buy unless it's like... $150 or less and you're desperate.
hmmmmmits priced at £324....
would it be alight with the phenom 955 instead?
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for lower budget the best option are intel g840
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/129
here a bench of cpus in sc2 the phenom 955 can be matched in performance at phenom 970 and is slower than intel g840
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CPU: AMD Phenom™ II X6 1090T
HDD: 1TB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s
MEMORY: 4GB (2x2GB) PC10666 DDR3/1333mhz
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS M5A78L-M/USB3 AMD 760G (780L) Chipset DDR3 Socket AM3+ Micro-ATX w/ 7.1 Audio, GbLAN, USB3.0, SATA-III, 1 PCIe X16, 1 PCIe X1, & 2 PCI VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GT 520 1GB
how about this then?
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very bad, tell us what is your budget and purpose of your desktop
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i think is a bad idea buy a amd phenom when bulldozer is about 1 week to come out
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On September 15 2011 05:42 ThatGuy89 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +CPU: AMD Phenom™ II X6 1090T
HDD: 1TB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s
MEMORY: 4GB (2x2GB) PC10666 DDR3/1333mhz
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS M5A78L-M/USB3 AMD 760G (780L) Chipset DDR3 Socket AM3+ Micro-ATX w/ 7.1 Audio, GbLAN, USB3.0, SATA-III, 1 PCIe X16, 1 PCIe X1, & 2 PCI VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GT 520 1GB
how about this then?
If you have a look at the link CuraOh listed, you'll see that current AMD chips make no sense from a price/performance perspective. A 1090T costs twice as much as a G840 yet has the same performance in SC2.
Also, GT 520 is a low end video card. For Sc2 1920x1080 you need a GTX 560 or HD 6850 or higher.
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On September 15 2011 05:43 Rachnar wrote:
very bad, tell us what is your budget and purpose of your desktop
wouldnt like to go over £400 (so yea form an english site)
i want it to be able to play sc2 perfectly, and diablo3 when it comes out, and i dont want to have to keep upgrading every year.
I only want the graphics on low, but i want perfect 200/200 engagments
im not too good with computers so illprobably end up spending money on stuff that doesnt work together and is jus not good value
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could you tell the site where you are buying for triying to help to improve your build?
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On September 15 2011 05:50 ThatGuy89 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2011 05:43 Rachnar wrote:
very bad, tell us what is your budget and purpose of your desktop wouldnt like to go over £400 (so yea form an english site) i want it to be able to play sc2 perfectly, and diablo3 when it comes out, and i dont want to have to keep upgrading every year. I only want the graphics on low, but i want perfect 200/200 engagments im not too good with computers so illprobably end up spending money on stuff that doesnt work together and is jus not good value
That's kind of the whole purpose of this thread. You know, come here, read the OP, fill out the survey, get a list of parts to buy that work together and are a good value. Or you could arbitrarily hear that AMDs are best for a 'cheap system,' (currently, bad advice for gamers) start at an AMD configurator, and ignore the expert advice here.
The survey is important to make sure the computer can do everything you want it to do, and to save you money by not suggesting something you don't need. For instance the amount you spend on a video card that can do "I only want the graphics on low, but i want perfect 200/200 engagements" for SC2 and Diablo3 will change depending on the resolution of your monitor, and if you don't have a monitor, that needs to be fit into the budget. Hence the relevant question in the survey in the OP...
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Which is the most priceworthy motherboard for Intel i7 2600k?
- I have Nvidia Gtx 460 already (so will not buy a new graphiccard)
- Gonna buy Intel 510 SSD disk
- Will probably buy 8 gig ram.
Edit: I will not overclock.
Edit2: Intel i72600k
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On September 15 2011 07:11 InDaHouse wrote:Which is the most priceworthy motherboard for Intel i7 2600k? - I have Nvidia Gtx 460 already (so will not buy a new graphiccard)
- Gonna buy Intel 510 SSD disk
- Will probably buy 8 gig ram.
Edit: I will not overclock. Edit2: Intel i72600 k
question: Why do you have 2600k if you won't overclock? Pick some 60-70$ mobo that has the features you want, any modern mobo functions well with SSD.
Sidenote, I was looking up a PC for my friend and came up on this http://www.netanttila.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=715672&storeId=1444&catalogId=1444&shopId=19651&compartmentId=20152&categoryId=31151
Now this seems pretty insane for 700 euros. HD 5850 is a pretty good graphics card worth maybe 150€+ though it's available nowhere, the processor is still a 150€, 1TB 7200 rpm HDD is 50, Mobo + ram totals about 130, case and PSU another 100+, Windows 7 is 90€ and that's already almost 700 ... I've never seen this good a deal for prebuilt computers o.O
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K suffix processors signify an unlocked multiplier which is used for overclocking and a stronger IGP (which you won't use since you're using a discrete GPU). If you aren't overclocking than just get the regular core i7 2600 along with any H67 or H61 with SATA3 motherboard.
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@shikyo
You can't look at what the parts sell for when judging previous generations. Maybe that's why you think AMD is good. You can build much better with current generation parts for that. It's what, a bit over a grand American, with parts costing ~15-20% more, right? So you should be able to get H61, i5 2400, 4-8GB DDR3 1333, and a GTX 460 1GB for that, with money left over to put into a decent quality case, HDD, and whatnot.
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On September 15 2011 07:48 JingleHell wrote:
@shikyo
You can't look at what the parts sell for when judging previous generations. Maybe that's why you think AMD is good. You can build much better with current generation parts for that. It's what, a bit over a grand American, with parts costing ~15-20% more, right? So you should be able to get H61, i5 2400, 4-8GB DDR3 1333, and a GTX 460 1GB for that, with money left over to put into a decent quality case, HDD, and whatnot. Oh I don't think AMD is good, just cost-effective to a certain point. Well let me see what that'd cost from a Finnish online store(he won't buy stuff from abroad):
460€( with GTX 460 being inferior to 5850. As for processors, 2400 is obviously better but the 650 still does about as well as a i3-2100), then we got windows 7 OEM which is 100€, and then we've got 140€ to go for the case, PSU, DVD-RW drive, mouse, keyboard, and the trouble. Warranty and support probably are worth something as well.
See why I think this is a good deal?
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On September 15 2011 07:11 InDaHouse wrote:Which is the most priceworthy motherboard for Intel i7 2600k? - I have Nvidia Gtx 460 already (so will not buy a new graphiccard)
- Gonna buy Intel 510 SSD disk
- Will probably buy 8 gig ram.
Edit: I will not overclock. Edit2: Intel i72600 k
If you're not going to overclock, get a non-k processor like the i5 2500 or i7 2600.
My personal opinion, you'd be better off going with an i5 2500k + P67 motherboard + aftermarket heatsink for about the same price as an i5 2600k + any motherboard + heatsink anyway, unless you need the HT on a 2600k. Which you probably don't if you have no idea about why you shouldn't get a 2600k if you're not overclocking.
If you absolutely don't want to mess with overclocking at all, get an i5 2500 + any H61 or H67 motherboard. Just make sure it has all of the other stuff you need like PCIe slots, SATA ports, etc. that you need.
On September 15 2011 08:05 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2011 07:48 JingleHell wrote:
@shikyo
You can't look at what the parts sell for when judging previous generations. Maybe that's why you think AMD is good. You can build much better with current generation parts for that. It's what, a bit over a grand American, with parts costing ~15-20% more, right? So you should be able to get H61, i5 2400, 4-8GB DDR3 1333, and a GTX 460 1GB for that, with money left over to put into a decent quality case, HDD, and whatnot. Oh I don't think AMD is good, just cost-effective to a certain point. Well let me see what that'd cost from a Finnish online store(he won't buy stuff from abroad): 460€( with GTX 460 being inferior to 5850. As for processors, 2400 is obviously better but the 650 still does about as well as a i3-2100), then we got windows 7 OEM which is 100€, and then we've got 140€ to go for the case, PSU, DVD-RW drive, mouse, keyboard, and the trouble. Warranty and support probably are worth something as well. See why I think this is a good deal?
Unless the AMD vs Intel pricing is COMPLETELY different (I'm talking like at least $20-$30 difference after conversion - as in, all AMD cpus would have to go down $20-30 in pricing) in other countries, I wouldn't touch AMD with a ten-foot pole. Unless in certain scenarios where you need like a real good reason for having 6 physical cores for the cheapest possible price. And even in those cases, I'd think twice.
I mean, even the Phenom II X6 1050T has a hard time keeping up with the CHEAPER dual-core i3 2100. It absolutely gets crushed in video games. And uses the more power for less performance.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/147?vs=289
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On September 15 2011 07:11 InDaHouse wrote:Which is the most priceworthy motherboard for Intel i7 2600k? - I have Nvidia Gtx 460 already (so will not buy a new graphiccard)
- Gonna buy Intel 510 SSD disk
- Will probably buy 8 gig ram.
Edit: I will not overclock. Edit2: Intel i72600 k
Having a GTX 460 1GB, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the ONLY reason you'd want a i7 2600K instead of an i7 2600 is to overclock.
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On September 14 2011 10:25 skyR wrote:
The i7 920 was a budget Bloomfield which launched at roughly $300, X58 boards were around $200, and triple channel memory was like somewhere in the hundreds of dollars so ya it was quite an expensive platform.
My 6GB of GSKILL RAM was $156 on newegg when I bought it. It's $39 now, $27 if you buy two sets for a volume discount making $54 for 12GB.
FML.
Ugh dbl posting again.
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