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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
September 14 2011 00:28 GMT
#11241
I can never notice, what makes a motherboard great other than its PCIE slots and features (USB 3.0, SATA II, etc.)? As long as it doesn't come DOA does it really make that much of a difference performance wise?
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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 14 2011 00:32 GMT
#11242
Depends. For mobos not intended to OC, that's about it. For higher end stuff, there's extra features, BIOS, BIOS support, tech support, better chipset cooling...

Extra features can include Clear CMOS button, reset and power buttons on the mobo, contact points for accurate voltage readings...
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11565 Posts
September 14 2011 00:37 GMT
#11243
Most importantly is the stability of the mobo when overclocking, which you really can't derive from anything other than experience alone.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 14 2011 00:39 GMT
#11244
On September 14 2011 09:37 FragKrag wrote:
Most importantly is the stability of the mobo when overclocking, which you really can't derive from anything other than experience alone.


Quite true. Although the quality of the BIOS in particular can be relevant to that. The other stuff is mostly candy, but a BIOS designed for it really is handy.
RumTalk
Profile Joined October 2010
Jamaica135 Posts
September 14 2011 01:10 GMT
#11245
This is my current build, I was just wondering if anyone could help me on what this should upgrade into or what path I should take on replacing different parts

Antec Nine Hundred Two - Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129058

Antec TPQ-850 850W - Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371009

Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield - CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115202

Western Digital Caviar Black
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136320

Western Digital Caviar Green 2 TB SATA III
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004VFJ9MK

Gigabyte LGA1366/ Intel X58 SATA3 - Mobo
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003378K7M

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002X578GE

GIGABYTE ATI Radeon HD6950 1 GB DDR5
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0056GJL26

Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
September 14 2011 01:16 GMT
#11246
On September 14 2011 10:10 RumTalk wrote:
This is my current build, I was just wondering if anyone could help me on what this should upgrade into or what path I should take on replacing different parts

Antec Nine Hundred Two - Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129058

Antec TPQ-850 850W - Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371009

Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield - CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115202

Western Digital Caviar Black
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136320

Western Digital Caviar Green 2 TB SATA III
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004VFJ9MK

Gigabyte LGA1366/ Intel X58 SATA3 - Mobo
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003378K7M

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002X578GE

GIGABYTE ATI Radeon HD6950 1 GB DDR5
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0056GJL26



Looks pretty solid for current day TBH. The power supply has so much wattage leftover you could power a second computer with the same specs.

Not much to say other than if you upgrade the processor to an 1155 sandy or Ivy bridge youll have to upgrade the mobo as well. The 1366 is a dead tech path now afaik.
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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
September 14 2011 01:20 GMT
#11247
Next year upgrade i7-920 to Ivy Bridge if CPU performance becomes not enough (but more likely, you may as well wait until Haswell).

If your OS hard drive ever decides to fail or have problems, or if you were going to format anyway, that would be a good time to upgrade to an SSD.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
September 14 2011 01:23 GMT
#11248
Wasnt the i7 920 like a billion dollars when it came out? I cant imagine letting go of that quickly.
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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 14 2011 01:25 GMT
#11249
Even when I upgrade out of my i7 930, it's staying around for something or other, dammit. This rig cost way too much to just junk when I'm done with it. And I can't imagine bouncing up to 1155 from 1366.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 14 2011 01:25 GMT
#11250
The i7 920 was a budget Bloomfield which launched at roughly $300, X58 boards were around $200, and triple channel memory was like somewhere in the hundreds of dollars so ya it was quite an expensive platform.
RumTalk
Profile Joined October 2010
Jamaica135 Posts
September 14 2011 01:26 GMT
#11251
Yea I like building the computers so that they last awhile at least, seems I screwed the pooch with the mobo though, at least when upgrade time comes.

Is a SSD worth it?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-14 01:29:05
September 14 2011 01:27 GMT
#11252
On September 14 2011 10:25 skyR wrote:
The i7 920 was a budget Bloomfield which launched at roughly $300, X58 boards were around $200, and triple channel memory was like somewhere in the hundreds of dollars so ya it was quite an expensive platform.


Even last May, i7 930 ran around $300, high end (Wait, what?) X58 boards $175-200, and tri-channel DDR3 was ~$150 for 6GB. Throw in the mandatory aftermarket heatsink, and just the basic components could hit ~$700, after it had been out for a while. For the LOW end of Bloomfield.

SSD is very worth it, and the mobo, no biggy, neither last-gen core i board works with SB, so you'd have replaced it either way. At least with 1366, you ended up with a smoking platform, even if you did pay out the nose.
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
September 14 2011 03:47 GMT
#11253
Sorry to bring up the fan issue again, but I forgot about my father's computer that I built. Is it okay if all three fans are set to intake with the Intel default heatsink? It would be a hassle to call him and manually tell him to remove it (lives in another state) and replace it.
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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 14 2011 03:54 GMT
#11254
On September 14 2011 12:47 epikAnglory wrote:
Sorry to bring up the fan issue again, but I forgot about my father's computer that I built. Is it okay if all three fans are set to intake with the Intel default heatsink? It would be a hassle to call him and manually tell him to remove it (lives in another state) and replace it.


Isn't your dad's PC for excel, firefox, and netflix pretty much? As long as he doesn't put it on the grill, it should be fine.
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-14 06:44:40
September 14 2011 06:35 GMT
#11255
-_-
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-14 06:46:01
September 14 2011 06:40 GMT
#11256
editing out so everyone is confused as to what happened
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
September 14 2011 06:43 GMT
#11257
Ah sorry I missread his post. Ignore me. -_-
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-14 17:26:28
September 14 2011 17:25 GMT
#11258
On September 14 2011 07:56 Gattaca.usa wrote:
I recently purchased a new build with a MSI P67A-C43 and I don't like it. The BIOS really suck for overclocking and it doesn't give the VCore that I set. It's really frustrating and I've read around the internet that people have issue with it too.


That's not a quality issue....it has to do with VDroop, if PLL overvoltage is set, and probably other things I'm not even aware of.

I have the same motherboard. It's low-end for sure, can't overclock very high with it since it's limited to 1.35 V but that doesn't mean your (and the others who "have issues" with it) lack of knowledge about how VDroop and other things about how VCore and power delivery work is an actual issue.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2404/6
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
BulletShot
Profile Joined May 2010
United States17 Posts
September 14 2011 18:43 GMT
#11259
Hello everyone and thanks for helping, I am not experienced at building my own computer and I have done a little research as well as browsing the thread, but in seeing a wide range of experience everyone here has hopefully you will be able to help me assemble a computer together!

What is your budget?
Around $800, but I can go above or below that range

What is your resolution?

I have a 32inch Samsung TV I was hoping to use as my gaming monitor, which last I looked was 1920 x 1080

What are you using it for?
Mostly for gaming, playing games in the future such as Battlefield 3, Guild Wars 2, Starcraft 2, I also am in graphics design so I use a lot of Photoshop, Illustrator, and on occasion movie editing programs like Sony Vegas. Also like watching streams

What is your upgrade cycle?

Maybe 2 or more years?

When do you plan on building it?

Hopefully within the next few weeks, and if not maybe around the time of Octoberish

Do you plan on overclocking?

Probably not

Do you need an Operating System?

No

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Probably not

Where are you buying your parts from?

Probably online sites like newegg or amazon. I’m from the U.S so those are the only ones I know of for sure.
ThatGuy89
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1968 Posts
September 14 2011 19:13 GMT
#11260
I dont want any X is better then Y and whatnot.
If i buy this PC, will i be able to run SC2 perfectly on low, with 200/200 engagments not lagging at all?

CPU: AMD Phenom™II X4 850
HDD: 1TB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16M Cache Hard Drive
MEMORY: 4GB (2x2GB) PC10666 DDR3/1333mhz )
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS M5A78L-M/USB3 AMD 760G (780L) Chipset DDR3 Socket AM3+ Micro-ATX w/ 7.1 Audio, GbLAN, USB3.0, SATA-III, 1 PCIe X16, 1 PCIe X1, & 2 PCI
VIDEO: AMD Radeon HD 6450 1GB GDDR3

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