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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
JJGamer
Profile Joined May 2011
United States76 Posts
September 08 2011 04:24 GMT
#10881
Just out of curiosity, what monitors do you guys use?
LazyMacro
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
976 Posts
September 08 2011 04:32 GMT
#10882
I have an Asus VH236H. Full 1080p HD.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 08 2011 04:38 GMT
#10883
Vizio 32" 1080p HDTV.
JJGamer
Profile Joined May 2011
United States76 Posts
September 08 2011 04:39 GMT
#10884
I just got the 27" Samsung Class 350 Series LED Monitor. Anybody heard anything good about it? I wanna make sure if it's a good buy; otherwise I'll return it.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 08 2011 04:41 GMT
#10885
Does it look pretty? Does it cause bad input lag? Those are the only things that matter really.
Bambipwnsu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada698 Posts
September 08 2011 04:43 GMT
#10886
On September 08 2011 13:14 JingleHell wrote:
Coming from someone who, for his own use, is a massive EVGA fan, you made what should be a solid choice, if the new mobo team is up to scratch. The warranty and support are excellent with them, and if you expect to use the features, their stuff comes pretty fully loaded.

Make sure to register it online, and post your rig on modsrigs to get entered in drawings for massive prizes, like $1k in EVGA shit for your PC. http://www.evga.com/modsrigs/


:D will do. It seems like i paid a little extra for the build quality and support pretty much. Obviously after buying I felt like I should have got the cheaper one at 130$.
LoL @ NA: bambipwnsu
JJGamer
Profile Joined May 2011
United States76 Posts
September 08 2011 04:47 GMT
#10887
On September 08 2011 13:41 JingleHell wrote:
Does it look pretty? Does it cause bad input lag? Those are the only things that matter really.


Don't know if it looks good really.. never seen it in person and how can you tell if it has good input lag?

And why are 27" monitors not recommended?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 08 2011 04:48 GMT
#10888
On September 08 2011 13:43 Bambipwnsu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 13:14 JingleHell wrote:
Coming from someone who, for his own use, is a massive EVGA fan, you made what should be a solid choice, if the new mobo team is up to scratch. The warranty and support are excellent with them, and if you expect to use the features, their stuff comes pretty fully loaded.

Make sure to register it online, and post your rig on modsrigs to get entered in drawings for massive prizes, like $1k in EVGA shit for your PC. http://www.evga.com/modsrigs/


:D will do. It seems like i paid a little extra for the build quality and support pretty much. Obviously after buying I felt like I should have got the cheaper one at 130$.


Eh, the build quality itself is a bit above average usually, the components are usually higher end, and the design is straight up targeted at enthusiast configurations.

24/7 Tech support is nice, as is having a warranty that covers everything except physical damage.
LazyMacro
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
976 Posts
September 08 2011 05:07 GMT
#10889
I was just browsing NewEgg and I noticed that the ASRock Z68 Pro3 is actually cheaper than the P67 version. O_O

It seems like that's a good option if you would've otherwise gone with the P67 version, unless I've missed something.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
September 08 2011 05:29 GMT
#10890
On September 08 2011 13:47 JJGamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 13:41 JingleHell wrote:
Does it look pretty? Does it cause bad input lag? Those are the only things that matter really.


Don't know if it looks good really.. never seen it in person and how can you tell if it has good input lag?

And why are 27" monitors not recommended?


They're huge and the cheaper 27" monitors all have 1080P, which kind of looks bad on a screen that size. Mileage may vary but people with good eyesight tend to prefer 2560x1440 on 27" monitors.
deathr0w
Profile Joined January 2011
United States114 Posts
September 08 2011 05:29 GMT
#10891
Hows this?

CD Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204


Case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021


CPU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072


Mobo - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130574


Hard drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284


Memory - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428


Monitor - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236052


Wireless Adapter - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124342


Power Supply - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371049


Graphics - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130567


OS - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

$1256
What do you do if your opponent does something weird? Go fucking kill him - Day[9]
JJGamer
Profile Joined May 2011
United States76 Posts
September 08 2011 05:44 GMT
#10892
On September 08 2011 14:29 Womwomwom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 13:47 JJGamer wrote:
On September 08 2011 13:41 JingleHell wrote:
Does it look pretty? Does it cause bad input lag? Those are the only things that matter really.


Don't know if it looks good really.. never seen it in person and how can you tell if it has good input lag?

And why are 27" monitors not recommended?


They're huge and the cheaper 27" monitors all have 1080P, which kind of looks bad on a screen that size. Mileage may vary but people with good eyesight tend to prefer 2560x1440 on 27" monitors.


So do you think I should return my monitor for a 24" one? What do you think about the ASUS VE247H? I heard there's a lot of ghosting with this particular monitor but I didn't really seem to notice it when I was playing with the demo. Let me know what you think.
Bambipwnsu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada698 Posts
September 08 2011 06:16 GMT
#10893
I have it...I don't notice any ghosting
LoL @ NA: bambipwnsu
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 12:22:10
September 08 2011 12:13 GMT
#10894
On September 08 2011 12:13 two.watup wrote:
So I'm probably just gunna buy something from here because I have no technical skill, but I was wondering between a few of the things that didn't seem to be listed on the main page.

It said that the 6950 2gig is recommended over the 570, so I'm gunna go with that.

For CPU I'm going with the i7 2600K.

PSU 850 watt thermaltake.

My question is about the motherboard. For the things I listed, is there any real difference between H67, P67, Z68, and X58, or between the motherboards in those categories (like GA-Z68A-D3-B3 vs GA-Z68X-UD4-B3)? Any recommendations?

Edit: Looks like I can get the "Gigabyte GA-Z68A-D3-B3", "Gigabyte GA-H67MA-USB3-B3", and "Gigabyte GA-P67A-D3-B3" for relatively the same price. I assume I should just pick the one that usually costs the most?


Ya... there's a huge difference between a Z68 D3 and a UD4 and a UD7 etc. And there is a difference between a H61, H67, Z68, and X58. Picking the most expensive motherboard without technical knowledge means you're wasting money as you will never utilize any of the features provided by such an expensive motherboard. And the most expensive motherboards is usually for the enthusiast LGA1366 socket which won't even fit the 2600k...

X58 is LGA1366 and will not fit the 2600k. H61 and H67 is not overclockable. P67 allows for overclocking and should be paired with a K suffix processor such as the one you have. Z68 has SSD caching and IGP capabilities which allow for lucid and quick sync.

Ibuypower is a waste of money and your configuration is also a waste of money. The core i7 2600k is meant to be overclocked and since you have no technical knowledge, you're wasting money. The core i7 also provides no benefits over the core i5 2500k in gaming as games barely even utilize four cores.

850w of power is unnecessary, a Sandybridge single GPU configuration can be ran on a ~500w power supply with plenty of room to spare.




On September 08 2011 14:07 LazyMacro wrote:
I was just browsing NewEgg and I noticed that the ASRock Z68 Pro3 is actually cheaper than the P67 version. O_O

It seems like that's a good option if you would've otherwise gone with the P67 version, unless I've missed something.


Because it's worst. Less connectivity, less phases, no on-board debugging features.





On September 08 2011 14:29 deathr0w wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hows this?

CD Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204


Case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021


CPU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072


Mobo - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130574


Hard drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284


Memory - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428


Monitor - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236052


Wireless Adapter - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124342


Power Supply - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371049


Graphics - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130567


OS - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

$1256


You have no aftermarket heatsink.

An EVGA GTX 460 -TR for $175 is a very poor choice. The Radeon HD6870 is the same price and offers better performance: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948 . Even the Radeon HD6850 offers better performance and can be had for a lower price: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150505

750w of power is overkill. A ~500w power supply such as the Seasonic S12II is more than capable of running this configuration: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151094 I'm assuming you want to do a multi-GPU configuration in the future so you would want a ~600w power supply such as the Seasonic S12II 620: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151096

Motherboard is nice and all but the P8Z68-V is a better choice imo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131729

Caviar Black only offers a five year warranty and its negligibly faster than the other drives. Keep that in mind if you decide to go with the more expensive Caviar Black over the Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 08 2011 12:36 GMT
#10895
On September 08 2011 14:29 Womwomwom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 13:47 JJGamer wrote:
On September 08 2011 13:41 JingleHell wrote:
Does it look pretty? Does it cause bad input lag? Those are the only things that matter really.


Don't know if it looks good really.. never seen it in person and how can you tell if it has good input lag?

And why are 27" monitors not recommended?


They're huge and the cheaper 27" monitors all have 1080P, which kind of looks bad on a screen that size. Mileage may vary but people with good eyesight tend to prefer 2560x1440 on 27" monitors.


Looks pretty good with enough AA, but it definitely takes more GPU horsepower with worse pixel density.

And of course, there comes a point where your display is just too damn big.
MIKster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany333 Posts
September 08 2011 22:03 GMT
#10896
I asked for a build before but things changed, the money had to be spent otherwise. Now I come back to you, a few months later, with a slightly smaller budget but still willing to build that PC.

What is your budget?

500 Euro = 697 US$

What is your resolution?


1920×1080 pixels.

What are you using it for?


SC2, streaming in HD 720+, Photoshop, videoediting

What is your upgrade cycle?

3+ years at least, if possible it should set me up for both comming expansions.

When do you plan on building it?


Next 2 months.

Do you plan on overclocking?

Nope.

Do you need an Operating System?


Nope.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Nope.

Where are you buying your parts from?

Europe, Germany, the internets?
Munich StarCraft & BarCraft | www.munich-starcraft.de
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
September 08 2011 22:13 GMT
#10897
http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=44315&agid=1192
8gb ram
30€

http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=42805&agid=1342
1tb hdd
43€

http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=48792&agid=1628
corsair 600w osu
55€

http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=41505&agid=1004
hd6870
141€

http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=47362&agid=699
dvd burner
16€

http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=46914&agid=1603
cheap h61 mobo
45€

http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=41226&agid=1617
i5-2400
151€


total of 481€without the case, that's up to your taste
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
LazyMacro
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
976 Posts
September 08 2011 23:05 GMT
#10898
A bunch of random things I wanted to share or ask about:

Reddit's r/buildapc has released a Google Docs spreadsheet of trusted parts, components, and reviews.

One of the last things I need to decide on before I build anything is whether I should invest in an SSD or not. I know that loading times and such are greatly increased, but do you have to do anything special with the SSD while building and booting up for the first time? I've been told that you have to set things up right, and I don't really know what that means.

When building, what do I need to be careful of? I know static is an issue, so I'm not going to be an idiot and build my computer while wearing socks while standing on a carpet.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 08 2011 23:28 GMT
#10899
Lol it's amusing how no Sandforce based SSD is on that list. I don't disagree but it's hilarious how poor of a reputation Sandforce has.

You mean decrease load times and there's nothing special. You just set to AHCI (which most motherboards should already have on default) and Windows will automatically do its thing. It's just another C drive. You can do things here and there to get more space and to decrease writes but ya.. nothing special.
Madoga
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands471 Posts
September 08 2011 23:39 GMT
#10900
@Rachnar
Why would he need a 600W PSU?
I'd just get the Super flower Amazon 450W(for less) or the Super flower golden green 450W(got a bit more).
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