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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 14 2011 05:06 GMT
#8301
On July 14 2011 14:03 troynewell47 wrote:
so you would recommend the $80 if I need 64 bit windows 7 and I have good internet


The first thought is to quote myself so you can read where I already answered that, but I'm pretty sure that's against the rules. So instead, here's a really snarky sort of yes. Because I'm tired, and because too many people need repetition today.
troynewell47
Profile Joined July 2011
19 Posts
July 14 2011 05:09 GMT
#8302
thanks
Doler
Profile Joined July 2011
United States206 Posts
July 14 2011 07:39 GMT
#8303
I've just ordered my new computer, but they don't have the XFX 450W PSU. I just got an email that they are willing to replace it for the OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W, with no extra charge. Should I do it? I don't know that much about OCZ PSU's.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
July 14 2011 07:56 GMT
#8304
On July 14 2011 16:39 Doler wrote:
I've just ordered my new computer, but they don't have the XFX 450W PSU. I just got an email that they are willing to replace it for the OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W, with no extra charge. Should I do it? I don't know that much about OCZ PSU's.


It's a downgrade in quality and performance but should be acceptable and way better than the explode-the-computer variety of PSU. It's not all bad: you get 50W more nominally, and a little more claimed on +12V too, and some modular cables (but personally I don't really get the appeal of modular cables except in certain cramped builds).

What was your build again (just say CPU/GPU) and how much were you paying for the XFX Core 450W, and from where?
Doler
Profile Joined July 2011
United States206 Posts
July 14 2011 08:01 GMT
#8305
i5-2500k and EVGA GeForce GTX 550 Ti Superclocked
The XFX was 48,90 and the OCZ is 51,90

Got it from http://www.alternate.nl
KonohaFlash
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1590 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-14 10:05:21
July 14 2011 09:58 GMT
#8306
Ok, so I decided i wanted to upgrade my crappy 5 year old computer until 2-3 months where I can afford a new computer all together.

Currentl computer specs which are laughable:

Intel core 2 duo e6420
2x1gb DDR-2 at 333mhz (puke)
Radeon x1300 ( :S)

Now what i want to do is upgrade both the memory and video card only. Everything else is fine but i really need to get rid of that video card. I want to play starcraft 2 on lowest settings with a decent framerate.


My budget is $90 and the website I plan on using is ncix.com. Thanks dudes xD
xUraharaX
Profile Joined September 2010
United States72 Posts
July 14 2011 11:12 GMT
#8307
On July 14 2011 18:58 KonohaFlash wrote:
Ok, so I decided i wanted to upgrade my crappy 5 year old computer until 2-3 months where I can afford a new computer all together.

Currentl computer specs which are laughable:

Intel core 2 duo e6420
2x1gb DDR-2 at 333mhz (puke)
Radeon x1300 ( :S)

Now what i want to do is upgrade both the memory and video card only. Everything else is fine but i really need to get rid of that video card. I want to play starcraft 2 on lowest settings with a decent framerate.


My budget is $90 and the website I plan on using is ncix.com. Thanks dudes xD


What Operating system are you using, you might not need more than 2gb of ram if you are using XP.

The next thing well need to know is what power supply you currently have in your system, the way you get this is by popping off the side of your case and taking a look at the side of the power supply (its going to be a metal box with a bunch of cables coming out of it in the back of your case), the numbers well need to know are the 12v amperage which should show up right under a (12v) sign in the form (##A), total wattage would be nice to know but is not absolutely necessary.

My suggestion if you are running XP, dont upgrade ram now 2gb is enough to run XP totally fine with such a tight budget and a large possibility that you will need to upgrade your power supply I would say put more money into the graphics capability of your system because that is currently what is holding you back.

I like this GFX card for the price,
http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=60745&vpn=HD567XZNL3&manufacture=XFX
you will probably want a MINIMUM of 16A on the 12v rail in order to run your whole system with it although i would usually recommend closer to 20A

If you still decide to upgrade ram--- assuming you have additional ram slots,
http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=15879&vpn=KVR533D2N4/1G&manufacture=Kingston
this is good enough
any 32bit OS, such as XP will have a limit of addressable memory, 3.x gigs, but 3gb should still be more than enough.

If you dont have additional slots for ram. you will need to replace one of your current sticks for a 2gb stick, http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=35726&vpn=KVR800D2N5/2G&manufacture=Kingston&promoid=1337
KonohaFlash
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1590 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-14 12:09:24
July 14 2011 12:06 GMT
#8308
On July 14 2011 20:12 xUraharaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 18:58 KonohaFlash wrote:
Ok, so I decided i wanted to upgrade my crappy 5 year old computer until 2-3 months where I can afford a new computer all together.

Currentl computer specs which are laughable:

Intel core 2 duo e6420
2x1gb DDR-2 at 333mhz (puke)
Radeon x1300 ( :S)

Now what i want to do is upgrade both the memory and video card only. Everything else is fine but i really need to get rid of that video card. I want to play starcraft 2 on lowest settings with a decent framerate.


My budget is $90 and the website I plan on using is ncix.com. Thanks dudes xD


What Operating system are you using, you might not need more than 2gb of ram if you are using XP.

The next thing well need to know is what power supply you currently have in your system, the way you get this is by popping off the side of your case and taking a look at the side of the power supply (its going to be a metal box with a bunch of cables coming out of it in the back of your case), the numbers well need to know are the 12v amperage which should show up right under a (12v) sign in the form (##A), total wattage would be nice to know but is not absolutely necessary.

My suggestion if you are running XP, dont upgrade ram now 2gb is enough to run XP totally fine with such a tight budget and a large possibility that you will need to upgrade your power supply I would say put more money into the graphics capability of your system because that is currently what is holding you back.

I like this GFX card for the price,
http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=60745&vpn=HD567XZNL3&manufacture=XFX
you will probably want a MINIMUM of 16A on the 12v rail in order to run your whole system with it although i would usually recommend closer to 20A

If you still decide to upgrade ram--- assuming you have additional ram slots,
http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=15879&vpn=KVR533D2N4/1G&manufacture=Kingston
this is good enough
any 32bit OS, such as XP will have a limit of addressable memory, 3.x gigs, but 3gb should still be more than enough.

If you dont have additional slots for ram. you will need to replace one of your current sticks for a 2gb stick, http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=35726&vpn=KVR800D2N5/2G&manufacture=Kingston&promoid=1337


Operating system: Windows 7

As for the Power Supply, it's 375W. I can't find the amperage numbers you wanted on the power supply though
All i know is it's a generic dell 375W that they use in most of their systems.
xUraharaX
Profile Joined September 2010
United States72 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-14 13:53:42
July 14 2011 13:52 GMT
#8309
375 watts sounds promising in this situation chances are you will be able to handle this graphics card, what brand is the power supply?

since its win 7 I can agree with a ram upgrade, just make sure you check on your motherboard to see if you have any slots available. if you do you are probably better off just jumping straight up to 4gb total by throwing another 2gb stick of ram in there since its only 5$ more after 5$ MIR.

Also, you will be able to handle medium graphics with this setup
shinhitokoroshi
Profile Joined April 2008
Norway6 Posts
July 14 2011 14:10 GMT
#8310
Is a E8400 + 4GB ram + ATI 6850 enough to run SC2 @ high/ultra? Im using a laptop with i5 430m + 4GB ram + Nvidia 360M now, I dont like laggy big battles.. q.q
nomnomnom
Nate.F
Profile Joined April 2011
918 Posts
July 14 2011 14:13 GMT
#8311
On July 14 2011 23:10 shinhitokoroshi wrote:
Is a E8400 + 4GB ram + ATI 6850 enough to run SC2 @ high/ultra? Im using a laptop with i5 430m + 4GB ram + Nvidia 360M now, I dont like laggy big battles.. q.q

At what resolution, and is your E8400 overclocked?
shinhitokoroshi
Profile Joined April 2008
Norway6 Posts
July 14 2011 14:27 GMT
#8312
On July 14 2011 23:13 Nate.F wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 23:10 shinhitokoroshi wrote:
Is a E8400 + 4GB ram + ATI 6850 enough to run SC2 @ high/ultra? Im using a laptop with i5 430m + 4GB ram + Nvidia 360M now, I dont like laggy big battles.. q.q

At what resolution, and is your E8400 overclocked?


@ 1920x1080

I can overclock if needed.
nomnomnom
KonohaFlash
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1590 Posts
July 14 2011 14:32 GMT
#8313
On July 14 2011 22:52 xUraharaX wrote:
375 watts sounds promising in this situation chances are you will be able to handle this graphics card, what brand is the power supply?

since its win 7 I can agree with a ram upgrade, just make sure you check on your motherboard to see if you have any slots available. if you do you are probably better off just jumping straight up to 4gb total by throwing another 2gb stick of ram in there since its only 5$ more after 5$ MIR.

Also, you will be able to handle medium graphics with this setup

The brand is Chinese-made Generic Dell. There's 4 additional slots on the mobo
Thanks a lot for the help, I really appreciate it ^^
xUraharaX
Profile Joined September 2010
United States72 Posts
July 14 2011 14:37 GMT
#8314
:/... generic dell should still have a brand name...
how about this. there should be a UL number on the power supply, looks like this
http://media.bestofmicro.com/ul-number-example,0-J-255331-13.png
what is it?
KonohaFlash
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1590 Posts
July 14 2011 14:41 GMT
#8315
On July 14 2011 23:37 xUraharaX wrote:
:/... generic dell should still have a brand name...
how about this. there should be a UL number on the power supply, looks like this
http://media.bestofmicro.com/ul-number-example,0-J-255331-13.png
what is it?


I googled it and found this. It's exactly the same as mine
xUraharaX
Profile Joined September 2010
United States72 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-14 14:44:43
July 14 2011 14:42 GMT
#8316
On July 14 2011 23:27 shinhitokoroshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 23:13 Nate.F wrote:
On July 14 2011 23:10 shinhitokoroshi wrote:
Is a E8400 + 4GB ram + ATI 6850 enough to run SC2 @ high/ultra? Im using a laptop with i5 430m + 4GB ram + Nvidia 360M now, I dont like laggy big battles.. q.q

At what resolution, and is your E8400 overclocked?


@ 1920x1080

I can overclock if needed.


Yes, 3.0Ghz dual core can handle sc2 flawlessly. the 6850 graphics card should have no problem running this game at high at great frame rates, ultra probably will work just as well.

Also note that SC2 does improve performance with a dual core overclock, I dont think you need it, but if you are comfortable with overclocking you could throw about 30$ at a decent cooler and bump that baby up another 600mhz or so no problem.
xUraharaX
Profile Joined September 2010
United States72 Posts
July 14 2011 14:55 GMT
#8317
On July 14 2011 23:41 KonohaFlash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 23:37 xUraharaX wrote:
:/... generic dell should still have a brand name...
how about this. there should be a UL number on the power supply, looks like this
http://media.bestofmicro.com/ul-number-example,0-J-255331-13.png
what is it?


I googled it and found this. It's exactly the same as mine


couldnt find anything regarding amperage, no matter though 99.99% it can handle it no problem
samiamquinn
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia137 Posts
July 14 2011 15:55 GMT
#8318
All my windows go slightly off my screen and I can move my mouse off the screen so it isn't visible? Does anyone know how to fix this?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 14 2011 16:03 GMT
#8319
That's how Windows is suppose to be... =\
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-14 17:41:12
July 14 2011 17:10 GMT
#8320
On July 14 2011 23:55 xUraharaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 23:41 KonohaFlash wrote:
On July 14 2011 23:37 xUraharaX wrote:
:/... generic dell should still have a brand name...
how about this. there should be a UL number on the power supply, looks like this
http://media.bestofmicro.com/ul-number-example,0-J-255331-13.png
what is it?


I googled it and found this. It's exactly the same as mine


couldnt find anything regarding amperage, no matter though 99.99% it can handle it no problem


It says 22A max +5V, 17A max +3.3V, total power +5V/+3.3V should not exceed 150W, total power +12V should not exceed 360W (30A), total continuous power DC should not exceed 375W, and it lists the recommended max ambient temperature of 50C. It's not going to perform like a top unit, but I'd definitely keep that. Generally the power supplies that go in desktop workstations are okay.

By the UL number, it's Lite-On. They're common in OEM machines and for laptop power supplies. Generally the high-end Dell machines get Delta PSUs I think, and the rest are Lite-On, HIPRO, etc.

Personally I wouldn't buy anymore DDR2 RAM, unless you really find that your swap file is getting hit all the time.

There's an HD 5830 for $65:
http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=57141

Whoops that's a HD 4830 obviously. Get the HD 6750.

A HD 6750 for $75:
http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=61160&promoid=1337
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